From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V5 #215 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, September 16 2000 Volume 05 : Number 215 Today's Subjects: ----------------- BLACK BEE FOUND! [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: DVD again [Concorder@aol.com] Re: A Sexual Assault [acopperbeechDryad ] faq format [the real dick cheney ] Subject: A Sexual Assault [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: DVD again [the real dick cheney ] tori amos for easy piano [Audrina Parker ] Helpful Links [ToriphileMaria@aol.com] My Gallery [Erinita ] Re: precious-things-digest V5 #214 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Moderation (was Re: (no subject)) [Michael Curry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:12:18 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: BLACK BEE FOUND! OK, ok, everyone can relax now... I have at last found my PGY black bee! Smiley Toodles ~ MysT *Talula, if your on this list, sorry I out bid ya, I just had to have it! ~~ Did ya'll know there's a WHITE BEE too? :::hehe::: ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:27:05 EDT From: Concorder@aol.com Subject: Re: DVD again In a message dated 9/14/00 8:16:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mikegray@btinternet.com writes: << The problem may also lie in Tori's rumoured perfectionism. Would she want a DVD of a complete show to go out if she wasn't 100% happy with her performance that night? >> what about the las vegas show? it wasn't perfect, for very obvious reasons, but that's what makes it a tori show :) damn tori and her perfectionism! i was hoping that after the ppv special ran its course on ppv, they would release it on video or something, like they sometimes do, but alas, nothing danny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:31:51 -0400 From: acopperbeechDryad Subject: Re: A Sexual Assault to anyone who needs support for sexual assault, or for partners of survivors, check out theProject that i work in at http://www.saferoom.org there's always ppl there who will listen. be well. Dracovixen@aol.com wrote: > > I was sexually assaulted today. It isn't the first time, and it probably > won't be the last. - -- ~ kelley acopperbeechDryad  FINNatic #69 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "we better have a good explanation for all the fun that we had cuz they are coming for us, baby and they are going to be mad..." ~ Ani Difranco _______________________ The Saferoom Project http://www.saferoom.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:06:36 -0400 From: the real dick cheney Subject: faq format when we last left our heroes, Richard Handal exclaimed: >woj mentioned a slightly different format from the usual FAQ in private >mail recently when we were discussing this. the idea i had was to try and make it easier to find the answers to the questions you have. right now when you peruse a faq, you either are presented a huge document that you have to read through (worst case) or are given a list of questions which are hyperlinked to the answers (best case). i think a better way to approach this would be to start with the skeleton of a question and drill-down from there, filling out the question as you go along. so, on the start page, you might see a list of question words (who, what, where, how, why) which are hyperlinked to pages with more detailed questions. for example, clicking on "who" on the start page might bring you to a list of people that you might be wondering about (mark hawley, eric rosse, joel, beene, etc.). each name would link to a paragraph or two about them. this is basically just a structurally rearrangement of an existing faq designed to make it easier for people to find the answers for what they are looking for. anyone have any thoughts on this? let me know. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:47:21 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Subject: A Sexual Assault In a message dated 9/14/00 10:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Dracovixen@aol.com writes: << Subject: A Sexual Assault >> * I am deeply saddened by what happened to V alias Black Dove and have written to her personally. I hope my letter helped you in even the smallest way hunny. * Concerned Toodles ~ MysT Welcome to Barbados - a Tori Amos inspired site for rape and sexual abuse survivors Escaping Hades - a rape and sexual abuse survivor's site. Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:57:19 -0400 From: the real dick cheney Subject: Re: DVD again when we last left our heroes, Mike Gray exclaimed: >Having said that, Warner Music (of whom E/W and Atlantic are part) have been >making a point of releasing old videos on DVD (and not bothering to >re-master or improve them in any way, shape or form) of late (certainly in >Region 2 - I don't know how R1 etc are panning out on this score?) including >many of the old REM videos. i seem to recall seeing a few r.e.m. dvds in one of the stores last time i looked. r.e.m., regardless of a pending new album (it's a few more months than a few away -- they're working on recording it now), are a much bigger name than tori. r.e.m. and tori may have some similar audiences but r.e.m.'s is much bigger and much wider. >I don't think we can't ignore it as a possibility, but I certainly wouldn't >hold your breath waiting. exactly. >The problem may also lie in Tori's rumoured perfectionism. Would she want a >DVD of a complete show to go out if she wasn't 100% happy with her >performance that night? she could always assemble a mosaic of a live dvd ala the live disc from _to venus and back_. of course it's quite prohibitive to professionally shoot every show of a tour on video, but a live video doesn't *really* have to have a million camera angles. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Audrina Parker Subject: tori amos for easy piano hi i was wondering where i can find this book i called everywhere no one has it its not even sold on the two links thedent gave me i desperatly want this book if anyone knows where i can buy it please please pretty please with a cherry on top eamil me thanks a bunch also if anyone recoreded the tori pay perview i have no idea when it wason i dont got cable if they recorded can you email me if you can make me a nice copy and if anyone has recorded the seessions 54 session with tori amos dont know when that was on iether if they recorded that too and can make a nice copy of that for me please email me thank ya very much ===== =Ž "Over there stands my angry angel and its frownin like hell but im not feeling guilty cuz I DONT CARE."---imogen heap "We'll see how brave you are oh yes we'll see how fast you be running we'll see how brave you are we'll see, see, we'll see how brave you are we'll see how fast you be running this time, we'll see how brave you are yes anasatasia."---tori amos =) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:25:47 EDT From: ToriphileMaria@aol.com Subject: Helpful Links In light of some recent posts, Ive decided to post some helpful links, (which will prove my point and refute what courtney had to say) since I bet the same person who's been asking questions that can be answered on these sites will continue to ask the same questions anyway without doing a little research. We'll see.... Tori Amos Discography (THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND WHAT SONGS WHERE RELEASED WHERE & WHEN): Tori Amos Discography (simple list of her major releases) Tori Amos: The Music (from the dent with more links on more detailed discograpnies) the stain @ here.inmyhead.net (pretty detailed) Collecting Tori (very detailed and excellent guide for tori collectors) Price Guide: Rec.Music.Tori-Amos - Price Guide Price Guide: Excellent source for collectors Tor FAQs: (THIS is VERY INFORMATIVE & is Sure TO ANSWER MANY QUESTIONS, esp for newbies) Y Kant Tori Read FAQ The Tori Amos Encyclopedia< /A> (self explanatory Tori Resources FAQ Tori Amos: Boys for Pele FAQ ) Information on Live Shows: To ri Amos Bootleg Discography, July 4, 1998 (Complete Listing of Tori's Commercial Bootlegs) The Sped Page (Shows which songs were played on What Shows ruing the Plugged and 5.5 weeks tour) (http://erstad.webjump.com/) Lyric Information: Tori Amos Lyrics Database (pretty complete and has Tori's quote on many of her songs) STUFF.to do : Fairy Tales (http://www.stuff.to/tori/) This has an AWESOME program you can download which contains a complete listing of Tori Lyrics untill TVAB & Containts a very complete discography as well; you can download this to you computer so you can find information offline! =) And Finally: www.thedent.com A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe *the one* Tori Site every zealous toriphile and dedicated ewf should have bookmarked. Hope This helps. For Those who didn't agree or like my last posts, then we can agree to disagree b/c my opinion still stands. If you dont like my posts, then you can just not read them or you can respond to me privately and I will be more than happy to have a civilized discussion/debate about them. If our kind moderator chooses not to post them, than thats his choice & I respect it. Untill then, I plan to voice my concerns & opinions about Tori and this list on list as I wish. Thanks & Have a Nice day! ~~MaRia P.S. JNE, Have you ever thanked *anyone* on here who answered your questions or even said "please" in your posts? Of course its not required, but common courtsey goes along way. . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Give me Peace, Love, and a Hard Cock. " ~ Tori Amos Wanna Trade? Check out my site! http:www.arches.uga.edu/~mariaa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Erinita Subject: My Gallery Hello Everyone, I apologize in advance for my posting may not necessarily be on topic for these two groups. I have visited Art.com today and they allow you to archive some of your most favorite prints to share with others. Ok, so maybe a little relevance, there are many Greek Mythology paintings in here, especially by Waterhouse. There are also some Faery paintings. I may have went a little overboard on the Faeries, but this is the first time that I have come across that particular artist. I can't remember his name, the one with all of the Zodiac signs. So please feel free to peruse and send me your comments & insight! I would love to hear what other people think of my selections. For Now, Erin (woj & Mike, I apologize if this is off Tori topic, but art may be just another form of my interpretation of Tori's music, only visually through someone else's talents.) > > Click on the link below to view the gallery > http://www.art.com/Members/Guest.asp?GalleryID=296291 > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:23:35 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V5 #214 In a message dated 9/15/00 1:34:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << 2) the only month which is 4 weeks long is February. Beth >> True, but when people are making a time estimate for the future, they often say 36 weeks, or 9 months. but this doesn't matter. What matters is, that each month is roughly four weeks. A full-term baby is roughly 40 weeks. (There is not an actual determined time as each woman's body and each fetus' development go at different rates, but it is usually around 40 weeks). Therefore, to say it is ten months is no crime, because it is fairly accurate. Months originally ran on the cycles of the moon. It takes about four weeks for a complete cycle. That's why they say there are four weeks in a month. The calendar we have today is fairly inaccurate in that respect, due to some egocentric rulers. By the way, this is why your period rarely ever happens on the same day of each month. It ties in more closely with the moon's cycle, not the messed up paper calendar we have. Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:07:11 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Moderation (was Re: (no subject)) At 06:15 PM 9/14/00 -0400, Dracovixen@aol.com wrote: >I sent a very long post here on sexual assault and the treatment >of women, and I know someone answered me, and I apologize because >I accidentally deleted your e-mail. Will you please send it again? >Also, I did not see the post here yet. Any reasons as to why? To answer the second question, the reason it hadn't appeared as of that time is that the list is moderated, and the moderator went didn't get home 'til late in the evening. As a rule, you (by which I mean anyone who posts) shouldn't start worrying about a particular post having been rejected until 24 hours have passed, and on rare occassions it could still just be a case of the moderator not having gotten a chance to do moderation yet. Just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of that... Michael precious-things co-owner ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V5 #215 *************************************