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precious-things-digest  Wednesday, September 13 2000  Volume 05 : Number 212



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: Fw: Oh Baby!                                        [RHPSshock@aol.com]
  Birth certificate ~                                [Mysterilady2001@cs.com]
  Re: To Venus and Back song book error  ["Tate Dellana" <agent_742@hotmail.]
  Re: To Venus and Back song book error     [Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>]
  re: Let me be the first...  ["Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk]
  Re: The Cobain Medley                     [Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>]
  let me be the first....    ["Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk>]
  Finding stuff online                      [Richard Handal <handal@min.net>]
  tori plagiarising kate?    ["Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk>]
  <sigh>                                             [ToriphileMaria@aol.com]
  DVD again                                                 [Ange816@aol.com]
  Re: precious-things-digest V5 #210                      [Talula514@aol.com]
  whats the last name??                ["miss world" <daturadew@hotmail.com>]
  Re: precious-things-digest V5 #211                     [Dracovixen@aol.com]
  Re: Oy baby 2               [Jennifer Mitts Cypres <knoxtorifan@yahoo.com>]

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:57:50 EDT
From: RHPSshock@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Oh Baby!

<< Having just had a full-term baby,  I can tell you it is 40 weeks. Not 10
 months.
 
 daisy melanie
  >>

Not meaning to involve myself in this silliness, but isn't 40 weeks and 10 
months the same thing?  (If all the months have 4 weeks.)

velvetraisin

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:24:30 EDT
From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com
Subject: Birth certificate ~

Hi ya EWF ~

    In case anyone has doubts I had a 13+ lb baby, or if anyone is just plain 
curious and would like to see my daughters birth certificate give me a shout. 
It has my, my now ex husbands and my daughters full names on it so I won't 
post it online but folks are welcome to see for themselves. You can then take 
the info and investigate. Birth certificates are public record.

    Toodles ~ MysT

We can go back to talking Tori now... :-)

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:25:37 EDT
From: "Tate Dellana" <agent_742@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: To Venus and Back song book error

Hey AJ.  I had the same problem.  You can find a copy of the first page of 
cooling here:  
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/8482/toriframe2.htm
But a better bet is to write to the publisher (the addy's in the front of 
the book) - they sent me a whole new book!
Tate
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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:51:29 -0400
From: Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>
Subject: Re: To Venus and Back song book error

At 11:57 PM 9/10/00 -0400, JNe9027355@aol.com wrote:

>i got my book off Amazon.com...for COOLING, pg 146...it begins with the 1000 
>OCEANS lyrics, thus cutting off the opening lyricals of COOLING. who else 
>suffers this crime?

It's a common mistake, but not all of them are like that.  Email Amazon and
ask how to get it replaced, since the book is mis-printed.

You may be better off just returning the book and getting another one of
the songbooks, then buying the TVaB sheet music book in person so you can
check it to make sure it's printed correctly.

/nad

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:06:11 +0100
From: "Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk>
Subject: re: Let me be the first...

[pops head out of trench, just in case...]

that was only a joke, btw  :-)

And Natashya Lorien is an excellent name. Anyone know if the surname's Amos,
Hawley, Hawley-Amos, Amos-Hawley? Not that it matters of course, just
wonderin'...


Happy phantoms,

Pete

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:57:19 -0400
From: Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>
Subject: Re: The Cobain Medley

At 12:46 AM 9/11/00 -0400, JNe9027355@aol.com wrote:

>is this only a live improv song?or a full b-side? i was looking in Nap for a 
>all-song compilation medley, this is the 1 i got. It starts out w/Amercian 
>Pie..

Tori has been covering Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" since her 1992
tour, and you can find a studio version of it in the "Crucify" EP.  

After Cobain's death in 1994, Tori began to do a small portion of Don
McLean's "American Pie" (the last verse and chorus) before launching into
SLTS.  She largely stopped doing that on subsequent tours, but has done it
on and off occasionally since.  There are no commercial releases of SLTS
with the AP intro.  You can find it on a slew of boots, including "The
Purple Rose" from the 1996 tour.

She has never done a complete version of American Pie.

/nad

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:59:28 +0100
From: "Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk>
Subject: let me be the first....

Hey guys - I just heard this amazing rumour..... is it true that tori is
already pregnant?? Again!!??



;o)



Happy phantoms,

Pete

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:22:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Richard Handal <handal@min.net>
Subject: Finding stuff online

Hi:

Courses are taught about this, but briefly . . .

I'm a curious person and I have many questions to which I want to find
answers. It's amazing what information is online these days--quality,
trustable information from good sources. Sure, there's also plenty of
specious "information" online and one needs to bear that in mind, too.

Anyhow, the main tip I would give to someone wanting to learn to find
something on the web is to learn to use the Google search engine.
<www.google.com>

I use Google anywhere from twenty to fifty or more times a day. I keep
it bookmarked on the advanced search page so I can designate it to give
more than ten hits (individual results) on one screen. My strongest
suggestion to anyone wanting to find things online is to learn to use
Google as well as you can. Read the things they say about it on the
website and practice getting familiar with using it.

Beyond that, the New York Times keeps a fabulous site with lots of
links to find all manner of specialized information. It can be accessed
at: http://www.nytimes.com/navigator . You'll need to register on the
Times website to be allowed to use it but that's free.

Be seeing you,

Richard Handal, H.G.

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to
fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.      --Chinese Proverb

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:26:42 +0100
From: "Pete Lambert" <pete.lambert@stoke-cab.org.uk>
Subject: tori plagiarising kate?

A friend just forwarded this to me from a Kate Bush list

- - well, it made me laugh :p)


>>>So now we can be certain.
>>>She'll probably claim that she never heard of Bertie and that having a 
>>>baby was an original idea - not influenced by Kate at all! :) ;) >}
>>>(I have covered all my emoticons, I would guess.)

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:23:24 EDT
From: ToriphileMaria@aol.com
Subject: <sigh> 

I apologize to the members of the list for the following post, but I had to 
defend myself... well not "had to" just wanted to. =)

Jne &Adam,
    First off I wanted to say, Adam, too bad my post made you 
"uncomfortable." Secondly, I wasnt scolding JNE for that one single post 
which was as a single incident, far from inappopriate  for the list. However 
this is his 20th or so question like this that he asks which he could VERY 
VERY VERY easily find the answer by doing a search on the web with *any* 
search engine under "Tori Amos discography" Thats all it would have taken for 
him to do two weeks ago..... yet he'd rather come on here than do a little 
research. Thats why  I said he was lazy. Secondly, he also comes one here and 
says he "demands" answers soon b/c they are ever so "urgent" for him to know. 
Youd think if it was so necessary for his survival hed find the answers on 
his own, which would  I bet money on, be much faster than waiting for a reply 
from the list. Thirdly, I already dont like JNE not only b/c he is lazy, but 
b/c he came on here and insulted thedent b/c it wasn't up to his petty 
standards. Give me a break!  Lastly, what can  I say, PMS is a bitch... or 
maybe its just me?  

~~maria

<<II'm writing in response to her
calling someone lazy for inquiring about finding "Here, in My Head". This
sort of inquiry is not at all out of place on this list. I;m sure Maria
has tori resources coming out of her ears--this does not mean everyone
else is as aware of where to find such information. it is entirely
bourgeois to assume that evryone who has some sort of access to e-mail
also has unlimited time and awareness to use other aspects fo the
internet. 
yes, this list is limited to discussion about Tori amos and asking about a
"rare" tori track certainly is fitting.
maria, your e-mail about laziness was harsh and judgmental and i'm
uncomfortable with YOUR post to the list.

thanks for reading
adam>>

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"Give me Peace, Love, and a Hard Cock. "  ~ Tori Amos

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http:www.arches.uga.edu/~mariaa

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"Give me Peace, Love, and a Hard Cock. "  ~ Tori Amos

Wanna Trade? Check out my site!
http:www.arches.uga.edu/~mariaa

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:04:34 EDT
From: Ange816@aol.com
Subject: DVD again

Since no one answered me last time, I guess I'll just ask again!  Does anyone 
know if they are going to release any DVD's of Tori, I mean re-release any of 
her past videos onto DVD?  I checked on the Dent and I didn't see anything 
but I figure maybe I could have missed it with all of the information on 
there.  

Ange

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:30:33 EDT
From: Talula514@aol.com
Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V5 #210

JNe - I know where your coming from dude!  I've only been into Tori for about 
a year & and half,  I know its hard being a newbie....I think I'm kinda not 
considered a newbie anymore, although is much more Tori for me to discover!  
So JNe,  I think you can ask all you want cuz its hard being a newbie,  and I 
think everyone should lay off a bit & take a chill-pill, remember when you 
were newbies and didn't know anything??  We are all here to help one another!

peace love & faerie dust
Resa

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:13:23 PDT
From: "miss world" <daturadew@hotmail.com>
Subject: whats the last name??

Whats Natashya's last name?? Amos or Hawley or both???  :)

- -courtney

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:07:38 EDT
From: Dracovixen@aol.com
Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V5 #211

daisy melanie,

    Umm...hmm...There are four weeks in a month....and 10 times 4 would be...?
    
Black Dove


In a message dated 9/12/00 1:32:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Having just had a full-term baby,  I can tell you it is 40 weeks. Not 10
 months.
 
 daisy melanie
 
 > << um... i was under the impression that a full term pregnancy lasted 9
 > months,
 >  not 11 >>
 >
 > Actually, the true number for a full-term pregnancy is 10 months. They
 often
 > say 9 months, because people usually aren't aware of the pregnancy for the
 > first month. And even then, the doctor says they have 9 months to go.
 >
 > Black Dove >>

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:00:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jennifer Mitts Cypres <knoxtorifan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Oy baby 2

MysT,

What a wonderful, totally fascinating, and informative
description on the gestational cycle of a baby.  I've
had a Human Development course before (in college),
but had totally forgotten the 40-week thing (because
we've all had the "9-month" thing drilled into our
heads for forever).  I also find it fascinating the
way you described the usual cycle for a first-born
versus a 2nd or 3rd baby.  That info was NOT in our
textbook.  Thanks a lot for such a thoughtful post!

- -jen

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