From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V5 #195 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, August 27 2000 Volume 05 : Number 195 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Dent [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: concerts [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: why is purp.people sub-titled "xmas in space" [Ken Tough ] Re: The Dent [Mikewhy ] Re:The Dent ["wendi smith" ] Re: The Dent [JayMGee@aol.com] Re: The Dent ["Mike Gray" ] Re: The Dent ["Shanna Seanachai" ] Re: concerts [copperbeech ] Re: [BeyondThePale] what song makes you cry? [FreakamI@aol.com] Re: The Dent [violet@torithoughts.org] Re: why is purp.people sub-titled "xmas in space" [Richard Handal ] Re: AJ [the real dick cheney ] Re: the dent [Concorder@aol.com] Re: concerts [Concorder@aol.com] tori's best work [Talula514@aol.com] Re: concerts ["love & compliance" ] what song makes you cry [Talula514@aol.com] newbie in need of advice! [Talula514@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 03:21:34 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: The Dent this site is a joke...nothing is fully listed, u got 2 scour thru it all cuz everything's interlinked. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 03:25:20 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: concerts im surprised most of u have been to 6 or more shows, i can barely afford 1! - -AJ whats the cheapest ticket price u've gotten? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 03:23:34 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: In a message dated 8/24/2000 10:46:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << It's thought that that's an error, actually. On the UK single, "Purple People" and Tori's cover of "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" are adjacent tracks. Supporting this theory is the fact that on the 1999 KROQ Christmas album, Tori's cover of HYaMLC is called "Christmas in Space". /nad {and do you have to crosspost everything?} >> crosspost? explain. if i post the same post on a slew of lists....its because i need responses urgently. i dunno why, but when it comes to essential tori queries no one can give u a flatout answer. being a new phile, this pisses me off tremendously. so, xmas in space & p.people are THE SAME SONGS, YES??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:19:06 -0400 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: why is purp.people sub-titled "xmas in space" Richard Handal wrote: >It was asked: >> why is purp.people sub-titled "xmas in space" >Because Tori's record companies seem unable to hire a proofreader. >Clearly, Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas should have had that >subtitle not Purple People. Just one in a regularly increasing list of >typos on Tori Amos records. Surely you mean "Have Youself a Merry Little Christmas." - -- Ken Tough Montserrat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:45:36 EDT From: "Liquid Pie" Subject: Re: what song makes you cry? Definantly Northern Lad...that hit very close to home. Jackie's Strength...that made me laugh, smile, and cry all at the same time. Putting the Damage On. 1000 Oceans. Hey Jupiter. Cooling. Black Dove. - -- liquid pie ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:08:06 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: The Dent >this site is a joke...nothing is fully listed, u got 2 scour thru it all cuz >everything's interlinked. I will be the first to admit that my site is not the epitome of organization, but since I reorganized it, it should be much easier to find stuff. For example if you want tour info, you choose TOUR INFO, and then the tour you want, and then it is a simple matter to find the show you are looking for. Also, using your browser's FIND or SEARCH function will help as well. I would be happy to tell you how to navigate to anything in particular you are looking for. Also, if you have a constructive way that the site could be better organized, then please let me know. I figure you must since you have already passed judgement on the Dent's structure. Thank you, Michael Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:04:15 EDT From: "wendi smith" Subject: Re:The Dent - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:21 AM Subject: The Dent > >this site is a joke... Are you out of your mind?! The Dent is probably THE best place to find out any information about Tori, or her concerts, and where she has played or hasn't played, or if xmas in space and purple people are the same songs, or any of the other questions that you have asked. It is one of the most frequently updated pages that I have found and it has practically any kind of information that you could ever want to know about Tori. This site is a joke....I'm sorry but that has to be one of the most humorous things that I have ever heard. wendi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:38:56 EDT From: JayMGee@aol.com Subject: Re: The Dent I think most people would agree that The Dent is the single most informative and well-organized Tori site out there - hence it's success. Saying it's a joke is a joke. You try fitting that much info on one site. I think most of us ears with feet are greatful to mikewhy for supplying us with such a grand Tori Amos resource. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:50:12 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Re: The Dent > this site is a joke...nothing is fully listed, u got 2 scour thru it all cuz > everything's interlinked. You surely can't be serious! The Dent is probably the best Tori resource out there (well, heck, it *is* the best) and just because you can't find quite what you're looking for without a bit of effort doesn't change that! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:32:31 -0400 From: "Shanna Seanachai" Subject: Re: The Dent > this site is a joke...nothing is fully listed, u got 2 scour thru it all cuz > everything's interlinked. > Are you on acid or something? You do know that the webmaster is on this list, don't you? Also, if you go to the handy little 'Site Map', you can find things quite easily. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:44:22 -0400 From: copperbeech Subject: Re: concerts the first time i saw tori, it was $13.00 =) those were the days ;) JNe9027355@aol.com wrote: > whats the cheapest ticket price u've gotten? - -- ~ kelley acopperbeechDryad  FINNatic #69 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "we better have a good explanation for all the fun that we had cuz they are coming for us, baby and they are going to be mad..." ~ Ani Difranco _______________________ The Saferoom Project http://www.saferoom.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:52:25 EDT From: FreakamI@aol.com Subject: Re: [BeyondThePale] what song makes you cry? *~Tori: Winter Cloud On My Tongue For others: "Daddy" - KoRn is the only other song that has actually made me cry. "Love Song" - "Cure" + "Home" - Staind + "You" - VAST + "Awake + Dreaming" - Finger 11 + "Icicle" - Tori* + finally "Hands to Heaven" - Breathe all make me want to cry. There are probably more cause everything makes me cry. Adjoa~* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:49:48 -0700 From: violet@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: The Dent >this site is a joke...nothing is fully listed, u got 2 scour thru it all cuz >everything's interlinked. The Dent is large and can sometimes be confusing, sure, but I challenge anyone who isn't happy with it to try and do a comparable site before complaining. It takes an unbelievable amount of time to keep that site updated and I am in awe of Michael for having kept it up for four years now. It's the best Tori site there is. One day, hopefully soon, a search engine will be available, and then look out ... through the roof! Woo-hoo! Violet xoxox ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: why is purp.people sub-titled "xmas in space" Ken Tough, inexplicably from Montserrat even though he's English, said: > Surely you mean "Have Youself a Merry Little Christmas." Ooh, don't get me started. ;-) One day I'm going to make a master list of Tori Amos record container typos. It's not a pretty sight. Of course, the OMISSIONS disturb me even more than the typos. How can they not give the dates of the shows each of the live Venus songs were taken from? Oh, well. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:53:26 GMT From: "Lauren DePhillips" Subject: chas n dave Does anyone have more info about Chas n Dave? >(BBC Online) - Who would have thought Tori Amos would follow a >similar musical path as Eminem? The rapper used Chas 'n' Dave's >musical expertise on his hit "My Name Is," and now Amos has dipped >into the catalog of the '80s London outfit as well. Amos recently >recorded two of their songs, "That's What I Like" and "London Girl." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:40:00 -0400 From: the real dick cheney Subject: Re: AJ when we last left our heroes, JNe9027355@aol.com exclaimed: >crosspost? explain. techincally, crossposting is posting to more than one usenet newsgroup at a time, but it also means posting to more than one mailing list at a time. it's not necessarily a bad thing, but can be at times. i'm not sure what nadyne's objection to it is in this case though. >if i post the same post on a slew of lists....its because i need responses >urgently. urgently? why? >i dunno why, but when it comes to essential tori queries no one can >give u a flatout answer. none of the responses to any of your questions have been ambiguous. perhaps incomplete sometimes, but never ambiguous. >being a new phile, this pisses me off tremendously. if this were a KaTe bush mailing list i'd sympathize more, but here are some things you should understand: there has been a lot of effort by a lot of toriphiles put into creating and maintaining several websites and faqs (frequent asked questions files) about tori. the answers to many questions are documented in several locations for all to peruse (i have links to several of them on the links page at the precious-things website ). with all the resources available, there is an expectation by some -- though not all -- of the long-time toriphiles for new folks to do a little research before posting willy-nilly all over the place. personally, i am not of that school since questions often lead to discussion and, as one of the guys who created precious-things, i like discussion. ;) also, lots of those websites are sometimes hard to find tidbits of information in and several of the faqs are out-dated...so you have to expect that questions will be asked. which leads to the second point: the style in which questions are asked. so far, your posts, however useful as starting points to meatier discussion, have been one or two lines of rapid-fire queries. no introduction, no explanation, no context. it's like someone walking up to you on the street and asking you, "have you got any change?". with that approach, it should come as no surprise that folks are uninclined to give you answers. precious-things is a mailing list, not a chat room or a message board. you can take the time to write more about what you're trying to find and explain about where you are coming from. while precious-things is not really a community in the sense that some other tori amos fora (rdtrn, rec.music.tori-amos) are, we are people and appreciate it when folks present themselves as people too, not a series of urgent questions. >so, xmas in space & p.people are THE SAME SONGS, YES??? as shown on the UK "spark" single, "purple people" is sub-titled "christmas in space" so the simple answer is yes. however, it is theorized that this is a typographical error since (1) "purple people" has nothing to do with either christmas or space, (2) "purple people" on the US "spark" single is not subtitled, and (3) tori's rendition of "have yourself a merry little christmas" on the 1999 kroq christmas cd is titled "christmas in space". is that clear enough? woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:57:41 EDT From: Concorder@aol.com Subject: Re: the dent if you don't like the dent so much, start your own site.... purple people is one song have yourself a merry little christmas and christmas is space are the same song danny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:58:14 EDT From: Concorder@aol.com Subject: Re: concerts In a message dated 8/26/00 8:48:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JNe9027355@aol.com writes: << whats the cheapest ticket price u've gotten? >> free danny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:58:13 EDT From: Talula514@aol.com Subject: tori's best work JNe asked what is tori's best work, not your fav. thats a good question, i think its a tie between Under the Pink and Choirgirl, altho Pele is a close second and defenitly her most ambitious work. peace love and faerie dust Resa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:41:43 -0500 From: "love & compliance" Subject: Re: concerts >whats the cheapest ticket price u've gotten? 3 lilith fairs and 1 tori show were all free for me :) it pays to have "connections." anthony :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:53:30 EDT From: Talula514@aol.com Subject: what song makes you cry I think JNe started this what song makes you cry topic, but Cooling (not the live version) tears me apart, i always cry when i hear that song and the funny thing is if you ask me what its about i can't tell you. when i listen to it, i just feel the meaning of the song, i feel what tori is saying ....dunno but i'm sure you toriphiles know what i'm saying ;) I also cried the first time i heard take to the sky, little earthquakes, bells for her, and crucify. those really hit home. I'm really not a mushy-gushy person that cries over songs, but Tori's Cooling does it for me, every time i hear it. peace love and faerie dust Resa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:31:23 EDT From: Talula514@aol.com Subject: newbie in need of advice! OK if there are any collectors out there, I need honeset help. I recently purchased a cd recording (would you call it a bootleg??) of Tori's Hard Rock Live 2000 performance, and the cd also includes some b-sides & covers. The track listing is as follows : 1.Precious things 2.Sugar 3.Bliss 4.1000 Oceans 5.God 1-5 recorded from Hard Rock Cafe 6. Raspberry Swirl (the extended sticky vocal remix i think thats the name) 7.Talula (the remix thats last the last track on the Talula single) 8.Amazing Grace/Till the Chicken 9.Do it Again 10.Cooling Can anyone tell me what I have on my hands here?? Cuz i'm really clueless if what i have is of any value. Its very good cd, the live recordings are a bit muffled, but the other songs are fine. peace love and faerie dust Resa ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V5 #195 *************************************