From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V5 #126 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, May 29 2000 Volume 05 : Number 126 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 'Horses' Plugged [FireflyLG@aol.com] Re: Regarding Trent & Tori [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: a few thoughts [dial m for monkey ] ADMIN: smoe.org downtime [woj sven-woj ] Prof Wid ["Eric Tierney" ] Re: precious-things-digest V5 #125 ["miss world" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 09:04:22 EDT From: FireflyLG@aol.com Subject: 'Horses' Plugged Could someone help me find a MP3 of 'Horses' from the Plugged '98 tour? I'd love to hear it! Thanks, Liz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 01:49:16 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Regarding Trent & Tori I just posted a message regarding tori and trent here Click here: Possibly something new on trent and caught a lite sneeze - At the Forums ... if you want to know what really happened go read it and trust me, this is the True story ... my name there is StarEternal here is the url in case you can't use the link :) http://www.atwebsites.com/forums/Forum36/HTML/000064.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 00:05:20 -0500 From: dial m for monkey Subject: Re: a few thoughts >Are you sure? I don't think MTV has a problem with songs about hitting >people (if they did, Limp Bizkit's "Break Stuff" -- and a dozen others -- >would probably have also been censored). I'm pretty sure it's because the >title -- and song -- are about fisting. (At least on one level). they did censor 'smack my bitch up,' though, which is funny because that song is utter satire. xox ana http://www.milligram.org closed or open? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 13:11:48 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: ADMIN: smoe.org downtime toriadores, smoe.org will be offline for the afternoon while the machines are moved around. service should be restored sometime this evening. do not be alarmed. ;) woj >Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 12:56:33 -0400 >From: Jeff Wasilko >To: guests@smoe.org >Subject: ADMIN: smoe.org move today > >smoe.org will be moving today at 2pm Eastern. > >-jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:43:55 GMT From: "Eric Tierney" Subject: Prof Wid If you ask me, this song is one the seminal points of attack at Eric, whom Tori has openly and repeatedly acknowledged was the impetus for her writing BfP. She is calling *him* a starfucker, perhpas accusing him of using his association and relationship with her to further his own ends-- "gonna strike a deal/make him feel like a congressman". Also, the song seems to be overtly about an intensely personal relationship, and not just a friendship. Although it might be unfair to use this as a reference, seeing as how the additional lyrics were created after the original song, but I could further point to the performance of the song on vox organ as heard on the "hey Jupiter " EP-- "what is termed loving/ what is termed a little girl trusting/a little boy trusting." I have plenty more to say on the subject, but this post seems long enough already. "Heart, have no pity on this house of bone; Shake it with dancing, break it down with joy." --Edna St. Vincent Millay "...I was Noah/ I was his ark/ and there were two of every animal inside me." --Mark Doty, "Arrarat" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:34:38 PDT From: "miss world" Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V5 #125 "Whoa. Hang on, hang on. I don't follow the news or talk about Smashing Pumpkins or MM or NIN, so forgive my ignorance, BUT are you saying that Trent and MM were lovers at one time, and that Trent helped MM rise to fame in the music world? Just curious. And also, where does Billy Corgan fit into this? I mean, who did he supposedly sleep with to get to the "top"? Thanks! - - -jen" who *knows* whether or not they were "lovers" per say... i wouldnt be surprised if they were, but ive never htought of that before. what i know is that they were good friends and musical collaborators, as far as producing MM cds goes. so mr. manson gets famous and bleh, trent doesnt like it because he's an asshole or whatver, and MM says something nasty about trent in his "book" and blah, all this rumour tabloid stuff as you know you cant trust all that you hear. billy corgan fits into this because.. i dunno, he's a pisshead? i just know that courtney love/billy were involved at one time, kindof. maybe. woo! im a little bit rusty on my tori conversation, so. forgive me. im very disappointed that MI:2 didnt have "carnival" *in* the movie. dumb ass producers!!! - -courtney | sky puddles | | http://fadeddreams.net/garnet | | im the water, im the dishes, im the soap | |i will comfort make you clean help you cope| | -Sleater Kinney | ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V5 #126 *************************************