From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V5 #9 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, January 12 2000 Volume 05 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Where Can I find TVAB Songbook ["Gate Keeper" ] Re: needed a piano players opinion [JayMGee@aol.com] Re: needed a piano players opinion ["Mike Gray" ] Wild Web over the weekend [Richard Handal ] HRL (was 'Re: my veiws on concertina single') [Richard Handal ] Re: the TALD [Beth Winegarner ] Re: needed a piano players opinion ["Sonya Harway" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:41:45 CST From: "Gate Keeper" Subject: Where Can I find TVAB Songbook Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could give me some sites that are sell the To Venus And Back Songbook. Amazon doesn't have it listed and I can't think of any other place to find it. Thanks, Andrew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:11:58 EST From: Aenima6699@aol.com Subject: about that songbook for guitar Hi. I remember this was mentioned a couple days ago (songbook for guitar). Also, some websites where it might be found were mentioned. I tried sheetmusic.com and could not find it. I'm sure there are a million other sites that would be good to check, but before I try to go through them all.. I'd like to know if anyone happens to know where exactly I could find it. Thanks. = ) Darren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:36:17 -0600 From: "Zero Point" Subject: Re: Concertina! GRR! my tiff witht his whole thing is not the way they're releasing it, but the single itself. i would like to hear more tori on the radio...or at least get a decent video out of one of her songs (what's with that glory of the 80's video?) and i think she should release Juarez or Riot Poof. and do it better than her last single from ftch. the doubleA cruel/raspberry swirl was a great single, but not once did i hear any of the songs played on the radio here.... I think she's trying hard to NOT put out the radio-friendly tracks, which bites 'cause i love 'em and wouldn't get tired of them. ho hum... anthony :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:52:57 EST From: JayMGee@aol.com Subject: Re: needed a piano players opinion I think Winter would be a good song. It's not too difficult and it sounds pretty close to the way Tori plays it. There is one part missing, but it's a really pretty arrangement. The sheet music is in the Anthology, the LE book and the Singles book. Another good one is Happy Phantom... I think it's a little more difficult, but it sounds really good. That one's in the LE book and the Anthology. There are others but those are my too suggestions. Hope you're successful in finding the right one! Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:08:49 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Re: needed a piano players opinion > I was wondering what song you guys thought was the simplist and easiest to > play for a half way beginner or if there is one at all. I am an advanced > beginning (meaning i know where all the keys are it just takes me a while to > get to them when playing something new but i can't play anything that is all Well... I find China isn't too hard, nor is Hey Jupiter, particularly. Over The Rainbow (from the MTV Unplugged book) - I'm not quite sure. If it wasn't a recital, I'd say that you should just play the right hand over the chords, and then you could do a lot of Tori songs really easily... don't know if that helps? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:41:24 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Wild Web over the weekend Hello: Okay, over the weekend I saw the Wild Web program that woj told us about, and indeed it was a story about MP3 opener Chlorophyll (taped in Mansfield, Mass. on 8/31/99). They interviewed Chlorophyll at the venue and showed them live onstage, showed a bit of Alanis live that night, and some excerpts of the Bleeess video. ;-) That was pretty much it. Not much true Tori content, other than some members of Chlorophyll saying they were more intimidated about when they were going to meet Alanis and Tori than they were about playing the shows themselves. They said Alanis and Tori were really nice to them. They also showed the official tour website and a brief shot of Tori with the stuffed animals from it, and they showed the MP3 tent at the show. I enjoyed it, though. It put me back in Mansfield for a minute. Cool. Thanks for telling us about it, woj. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:22:11 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: HRL (was 'Re: my veiws on concertina single') courtniieee said: > p.s. did anybody else find that vh1's choice of hard rock live > coverage boring? Man, *I* didn't. I could have done with something other than Bliss, but all the other songs were wonderful for me. I even loved seeing her come out and go into God. (Something about that repeating opening piano figure before the vocal begins...) I thought she looked to be in her own element for a change (a rare thing on television), the whole thing looked real good, and she got more than half the hour to herself. (Of *course* I'd have rather she had the entire hour, but since they did split the program between two acts I thought she got a decent shake at 34 minutes. Surely the Beth Hart fans have much more right to complain about her getting only like *24* minutes.) Also, if they'd shown Riot Poof from that night--the only time the band did it on the entire tour without the special live end section--I'd have been incredibly upset. I want to remember the live Riot Poof the way she really played it on the tour, so I'm glad they left that out. > like, who hasn't seen precious things before?? But that was *the* most INCREDIBLE version of Precious Things! I was completely blown away by that. For me, that was easily one of the absolute top Precious versions of all time, and that's saying something. That was the clear highlight of the program. The second time I watched it I had *major* chills all the way to the end from the "peach party dress" part. I was almost shaking. (I'd gotten to that point before at the shows, but never from a TV appearance.) I'm in heaven. I couldn't be more pleased to have even just that one song on video. I consider Precious to be the quintessential Tori Amos composition-- surely of the LE/Pink/Pele era--and this HRL version of it captured it at its best. Maybe she is going to give it something of a rest from now on. I note that she didn't play it at *any* of the solo piano shows she did late last year. I think that HRL version will likely prove to be the last time we hear it for quite a while--especially with that configuration of band. I'm proud of how well she and the band did on that show, and I'm going to tell non-Tori people who might appreciate it to watch it. This and the Sessions at West 54th from the plugged '98 tour are likely to end up being the main moving image legacy from this band era, and although I thought the Sessions was real good, this HRL struck me as being even better. Surely, if one compares these video concert items to the tours they hail from, they are *far* more representative of them than, say, the Concert for RAINN was of the DDI tour. > i was so hoping for the "critically acclaimed" "cooling" that > everybody was raving about. They really couldn't have shown Cooling if they'd wanted to. They used the MIDI system on the piano at the exclusion of any microphones. The piano sounded strange using the MIDI system solo. This was the first time I ever heard the piano solo without it being miced. Surely, it was the *only* time she ever performed solo on piano using the MIDI system and no microphones. This is kinda technical and has been covered before, but not recently, and I'm sure many still have no idea about this, so here goes. The piano can't be loud enough to be heard over the band as loud as they want the band to be (it would feed back and/or ring), so when the band plays in concert they use the Bosendorfer MIDI system, and they use microphones on the piano when Tori plays solo. In other words--when the *band* is playing a song we don't hear the actual strings of the piano as Tori plays on them over the PA, we hear sampled piano sounds which are *keyed* by Tori playing the piano. There was no planned solo piece and thus no microphones on the piano at the HRL taping. And it sounded odd. It was *moving* as all hell but it sounded odd. She did Cooling for the live house, not for TV. I hate to have to put it that way but it's true. It wasn't on the set list and someone else reported the camera crew having stopped taping for a minute before she went into Cooling. Unless someone managed to record a boot of this in the studio that evening then that Cooling is surely lost to the world. (Unless Mark Hawley got it, in which event *we'll* never hear it, anyway.) I'd be thrilled to get a transcript just of her spoken introduction to Cooling at that show. If anyone has a recording of the taping and could provide one I would be the happiest of campers. Thanks. All I can say is go back and let Precious really sink in. Notice how, well, here's what I went back and discovered that I'd told Michael on the phone for my official Dent report when I called him later that night to report on the taping-- During the "peach party dress" part of Precious Things, Tori started slowing down the music very slightly, creating an amazing and even creepy effect. That Precious was high drama. If you can manage to stop saying to yourself that you've heard the song a million times and let what's being played really sink in you'll see what I mean. I *believe* you will, anyhow: And then they showed Sugar. Wow. All of that really moved me. Tori on TV is usually not a particularly good thing and I dread it, but I thought this time was a welcome exception. Ya'll are welcome to your own opinions but that's mine. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:55:20 -0000 From: "pete lambert" Subject: "et's play - tori" >any simple tori songs to play I always found "China" the easiest to start with - it's mainly just chords, with the occasional tinkley bit (technical term). I managed to make "Doughnut Song" sound fairly good without too much blood sweat & tears. My advice would be - remember you ain't got as many hands as tori (I've decided she must have at least 4 to get through Precious Things), so use the chord names at the top of each bar to cheat and simplify the difficult bits! Happy toodling, Pete #and castles are burning in my heart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:10:27 -0800 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Re: the TALD Jen asked: > I *think* most women start masturbating much > later in life, or am I wrong? I'm just thinking that > maybe early childhood molestation *might* lead to > earlier-than-usual childhood masturbation. Briefly, I don't know the answer to one part of your question, but I do know an answer to the other part: yes, most women begin masturbating at a later age than 5. However, the reason they do so is that most women discover it by accident. Among males, it's much more acceptable to discuss masturbation -- so kids tell each other about it early on. But it's not accepted among women, and if someone doesn't show a girl or tell her, she may not discover it till her teens, or in some cases, even later. I don't think anyone knows what a 'normal age' for that sort of thing is, because the 'normal age' is already skewed by a lot of other factors. Beth - -- "I will gladly take on any monks who wish to argue with my logic. Silly silly monks." (Violet) _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ Visit my web site at http://echoes.devin.com -- see photos and artwork, read poetry and stories, learn about selkies and Sonoma County, and join the froud-faeries list. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:45:53 EST From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: Re: needed a piano players opinion I am a piano player of 11 years now, so I thought I'd throw in my opinion. I think that the easiest Tori songs to play are from the Bee-Sides book. The first two that come to mind are Black Swan and Here. In My Head (although that one has a lot of flats-or is it sharps?) I also think some of the Little Earthquakes stuff is fairly easy, like Leather, China, and Silent All These Years. Boys for Pele is also a nice, generally easy book, especially stuff like Hey Jupiter and Putting the Damage On. I think Under the Pink might be a little too hard for a beginner, but what do I know? I have three final comments: One: Stuff that looks easy is sometimes very difficult because Tori plays around with meter a lot in a very non-traditional sense. It was very hard for me at first because I am classically trained, and Tori rebels against that stuff. Two: The stuff is much easier in the books than that which Tori actually plays, because it is certainly edited by someone and it is probably transcribed by someone other than Tori. Three: There are lots of errors, so if something sounds really wrong, it probably is. I have an incomplete list of errors from the sheet music that I will send you if you want. Good luck!! love, sonya =Thank you for your squirrel= http://home.collegeclub.com/sharway/toriboot.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V5 #9 ***********************************