From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #369 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, December 16 1999 Volume 04 : Number 369 Today's Subjects: ----------------- eternal footmen ["carmen riojas" ] Spinning into the Twilight Zone... [Beth Winegarner ] Stoned Tori? [RedSpark18@aol.com] Millenium Poll [Ellen Morris ] Re: eternal footmen [JayMGee@aol.com] mtv antitrust ["crtny" ] Re: eternal footmen [Aslemp209@aol.com] Re: Stoned Tori? [Aslemp209@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:04:02 PST From: "carmen riojas" Subject: eternal footmen this might lead to an interesting thread, Tori mentions "eternal footman" in a song (i forget which "shame shame shame'). there is also a character in a T.S. Eliot poem called the eternal footman (again, i don't know which). i wonder if she has read any Eliot? toodles CR "give me religion and a lobotomy/Beulah Land you beautiful whore/tell me when i won't need you anymore" "if you know me so well then tell me which hand i use" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:01:45 -0800 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Spinning into the Twilight Zone... This is too weird. Cindy wrote: > Sorry to annoy you with a question that I am sure has been asked several > times before (and believe me, I tried to find it on the Internet first), but > where might I find a list of the books that Tori has recommended in the past? And then I wrote: > I'm collecting the names of books that people have given to Tori over > the years. I know she gets TONS of books from her fans, but would be > interested to set up a list of such books. Ok, ok, so they're not the same thing, but I am collecting both. Here's what I've got so far (still building; anyone with more info please email me): books recommended by Tori: Anything by Joseph Campbell "Holy Blood, Holy Grail," Michael Baigent, Henry Lincoln, and Richard Leigh "Goddesses in Everywoman" by Jean Shinoda Bolen "Quarantine," Jim Earce "The Antelope Wife," Louise Erdrich "The Virgin Suicides," Jeffrey Eugenides "The Bloodline of the Holy Grail," Laurence Gardner "Neverwhere," Neil Gaiman "Death: The High Cost of Living," Neil Gaiman "In the Land of Winter," Richard Grant "The Fruitful Darkness," Joan Halifax "Owning Your Own Shadow," Robert Johnson "Bringers of the Dawn," Barbara Marciniak "Drama of the Gifted Child," Alice Miller "The Creation of Health: The Emotional Psychological, and Spiritual Responses That Promote Health and Healing," Caroline Myss and C. Norman Shealy "The Little Prince," Antoine Saint-Expury "Possessing the Secret of Joy," Alice Walker "A Woman's Worth," Marianne Williamson anything by Marion Woodman Holy Blood, Holy Grail Women of Classical Mythology The 32nd Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology 1910-'11 books given to Tori by fans: "Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book," Brian Froud "The Nicholas Effect," Reg Green "Spirit into Sound: The Magic of Music," Mickey Hart and (??) "She's Come Undone," Wally Lamb "Gawain: Knight of the Goddess," John Matthews "Still Life with Woodpecker," Tom Robbins "There's A Boy in the Girl's Bathroom," Louis Sachar "Entries From a Hot Pink Notebook" Beth - -- "Just remember, reality is your best source of reality." (Jon Carroll) _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ Visit my web site at http://echoes.devin.com -- see photos and artwork, read poetry and stories, learn about selkies and Sonoma County. :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:24:17 +0100 From: Patrick Weber Subject: Tori Christmas Advent Calendar So I guess itīs pretty late to post about it. So the thing is: I Have a page with something tori for each day until christmas. check it out :) http://members.tripod.de/need/calender.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 03:36:31 EST From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: Stoned Tori? I was at the View website and saw a couple of the message boards people left about Tori's 12/8 performance on the show. I was wondering what happened? Why did people think she was out of it/stoned/drugged. You mean this isn't normal for Tori? I'm so sorry I missed it! Did anyone tape this particular View? Love, Red http://fly.to/stringbeanlove "...So strange, victory - 1,200 spires, the only sound, Moscow burning. Empty like the Tuileries. Like a dream Vienna seems, only not to be of use-impossible...." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:02:32 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Morris Subject: Millenium Poll hi folks, please go to this webpage for a local radio station and nominate your favorite tori song for the millenium poll ( i put cornflake girl but feel free to put whatever you want, i also put bjorks human behavior, nin's closer, curve's frozen, & pj's "down by the water" in case anyone is going to put a song from those artists) i will try and keep the list posted on when the actual voting begins so that we can get tori up there on their millenium poll. thanks, ellen _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~| The moon has set _______ and the Pleiades; ((_______)) it is the middle of the night | | | | and the hours go by | | | | and i lie here | | | | alone | | | | - -sappho | | _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:26:41 EST From: JayMGee@aol.com Subject: Re: eternal footmen "Tears on the sleeve of a man, don't wanna be a boy today. I heard the eternal footman bought himself a bike today." -Pretty Good Year ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:36:36 PST From: "crtny" Subject: mtv antitrust i jsut thought everybody would like to know, that the channel which has ignored tori for so long, may possibly be getting some general revamping done by who else, but the Justice Department!!!!! the government is saying mtv/vhi has a monopoly, and it deals with the record companies so that nobody else can buy the videos to play on their channels, which is why there arent any other music channels (besides the rare and decreasing "The Box") so, maybe this will give way to a new station or two, who will be more than happy to play better music?? "damn the man!" (empire records) :) - -courtney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:45:01 EST From: Aslemp209@aol.com Subject: Re: eternal footmen In a message dated 12/15/99 , shiseidored21@hotmail.com writes: > this might lead to an interesting thread, Tori mentions "eternal footman" in > > a song (i forget which "shame shame shame'). there is also a character in a > T.S. Eliot poem called the eternal footman (again, i don't know which). i > wonder if she has read any Eliot? That would be Pretty Good Year, m'dear. "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" is the T.S. Eliot reference your thinking of... "I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker, And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker, And in short, I was afraid." There's was a book written not too long ago called "Eternal Footman," by James Morrow. It was the last book in his satirical series that started with "Towering Jehova." There have been some stories written lately that pair Neil G.'s Death character with The Eternal Footman... almost as a sidekick working in tandem. Something like the Grim Reaper in folklore... Pom - -- Pom@rmta.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:56:26 EST From: Aslemp209@aol.com Subject: Re: Stoned Tori? In a message dated 12/15/99 7:14:57 PM, RedSpark18@aol.com writes: > I was at the View website and saw a couple of the message boards people left > about Tori's 12/8 performance on the show. I was wondering what happened? > Why > did people think she was out of it/stoned/drugged. You mean this isn't > normal > for Tori? I'm so sorry I missed it! Did anyone tape this particular View? > I wouldn't say Tori was out of character, but she was more metaphorical than usual. It consisted of the interviewer asking what Tori's inspiration is... Tori responded that Food is her inspiration (isn't she cute)...When that wasn't good enough for the interviewer, Tori said that (paraphrased) she likes to sail her boat, but her boat got destroyed, so she has to get a new boat. I'd like to think I understand it right now, but it is still a little ambiguous, even fer her :) If you or anyone would like a copy, I'd be glad to make one for you. It's only about 5 minutes long (the interview and performance of 1000 Oceans), but 1000 Oceans was stunning. About the best I've seen live. Pom - -- Pom@rmta.org ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #369 *************************************