From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #356 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, December 2 1999 Volume 04 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tvab [Spiritcc33@aol.com] Juarez women found ["Emily W. Rigdon" ] Re: A Question ["Marcus Lambert" ] Juarez/concertina [Gidefab@aol.com] WBRU SHOW!!! ["Carrie B." ] Re: tvab [Jennifer Mitts Cypres ] Thoughts on Providence, 10/30/99 [Richard Handal ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:10:44 EST From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: tvab Hey! um I see what your saying... I have even felt the same kinda... but thru time... I think everyone is bound for change... and knowing tori... I don't think she cares what people think of her new material I think its a growing process for her... her songs grow to something else... as she does... That's my 2 cents :) Bliss & Hugs *^*Cornflakegirl*^* " When I'm doing an album for myself I have so much freedom. You're designing songs ya know to picture and it has to work."- Tori~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:48:51 -0500 From: "Emily W. Rigdon" Subject: Juarez women found Have you guys heard about the bodies discovered near Juarez - check this out guys! I wonder if Tori knows? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991130/ts/fbi_mexico_5.html luv - emily ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:55:37 -0600 From: "Marcus Lambert" Subject: Re: A Question Not sure about that, but I know that she has a home in Cornwall (southwest England) Marcus - -----Original Message----- From: BardMern@aol.com To: precious-things@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: A Question > >A friend of mine who's a Tori Amos fan told me that Tori lives in a castle in >London. I know for a fact she lives in England but I've never heard about her >living in a castle. Is it true? If so are there pictures of it? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:11:25 EST From: Gidefab@aol.com Subject: Juarez/concertina just wanted to let anyone who hasn't been near a TV know - there has been a lot on the news this morning, and in the NY Times about authorities (US & Mexican) searching for a mass grave at Juarez. i read the NY Times article (wed dec 1 - page A3) i thought some EWF may be interested in hearing about this. also as a side note - the article mentions a "cinder block wall topped with concertina wire" - we know concertina is an accordian, i would imagine this is the razor wire that is coiled up (like a slinky - similar to an accordian!) Gidefab ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:48:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Carrie B." Subject: WBRU SHOW!!! I just got back from an amazing show! I have to admit I dozed off quite a bit during the first two acts (Vertical Horizon and Guster), but Tori was amazing!!!! I haven't written down the setlist yet, but she started out with Take to the Sky, and she did the following songs (probably not in order, I'm utterly exhausted and these are the ones I remember): Take to the Sky, Bliss, Lust, LOVESONG!!!!, Concertina, ICICLE, Winter, Cloud On My Tongue (she told a funny story about guys not thinking it through before they ask women out before this song), Teen Spirit, JUAREZ (she saidd "okay, lets see if we can do this", and played the song while banging on her piano chords at the top of her piano), Suade, SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW!!!!!! I'm sure there's more I;m forgetting. All solo, just like the old days :) What a great show! I got all three sets -- Vertical Horizon, Guster, and Tori recorded. My seats were WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY back in the venue though, so it didn't come out as good as I hoped. So I won't transfer it to CDR (not even going to try), but if anyone wants a tape of it let me know. And if you recorded it and it came out better than mine, I'd love a copy :) I'll be recording the CT show on Thursday too. There was someone in a leather jacket snapping pictures of Tori constantly during the show, and it looked like he got some awesome shots. So there will probably be great pictures surfacing. She looked very casual -- jeans and a nice black top. It also looks like her hair was shortened. Take care ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:24:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer Mitts Cypres Subject: Re: tvab >> Aside from about two songs on choirgirl, I dont >> really like much else. Has she really changed, or >> have I just not had enough time to let the new >> songs take on meaning for me as the older ones have? > I think that there has not been a significant (if > any) decrease in quality of the songs. Choirgirl was > just as good as anything else. You should give it a > few more listens. I totally agree. It does need time. But the reward at the end is sooooo worth it. > iieee is one of the best songs I've ever heard. Yes. All of the songs on these two albums just go to show that Tori is at her peak of creativity right now. I mean, how could any other artist follow LE and UtP? She'd already "confessed" everything to us. Any other artist would have rolled over and died and turned out drizzle afterward. Where was Tori to go? She had to reinvent herself for fear of repeating herself, where she would lose respect among us (you have to admit) and with herself. > With the exception of Bliss, Concertina, Lust, and > Oceans, there aren't many big melodies like the > past albums. Well, I have to add Josephine in here. To me, that song is up there with Winter and Mother. I have to say that it took me longer to get to know Choirgirl and Venus, but now I prefer to listen to these two albums more than the others because of all of the different layers of Tori present. It seems like we can't even begin to uncover the meanings behind some of the songs on these two albums, and it promises to lend a great deal of discussion. As Tori said, "It will all find its way in time." And just when we think we've interpreted and dissected all of the material, she will be there again with another album, tempting us in. I LOVE the Datura interpretation Jolie (sp?) just posted. > Juarez just makes it all worth it. Did you guys hear that yesterday they discovered deep graves with hundreds of bodies in Juarez? Apparently, the bodies are the victims of the local Mexican drug cartel. Tori really has a finger on the pulse of what's choking our society. I admire her deeply for that. - -jen ===== "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" - -Adolph Hitler, 1935 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Thoughts on Providence, 10/30/99 Hello: I was moved to express a few thoughts on last night's Providence show. This isn't exactly a review, but anyhow... Veterans Memorial Auditorium, Providence, Rhode Island, 10/30/99 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- "The whole air seemed alive as if the tongues of those great cold, hard metal things had become flesh and joy. They burst into being screaming with delight and the city vibrated. Some wordless thing they said touched something so deep inside you that they made tears come." --Emily Carr (Canadian painter, 1871 - 1945) I've learned that there's no way to know in advance from one show format to the next how Tori's going to drive when she comes out of the garage. On the '96 Dew Drop Inn tour she had a sports car, and proceeded to lead us at great speed through mountainous hairpin turns--pushing her limits and ours, seemingly daring herself to see how hard and how fast she could lead us without drifting over the edge of a cliff. Those shows were often quite scary, and they came to seem sometimes like some sort of ritual testing ground of naked human emotion: How much feeling could she get in touch with, dig out and project toward to us? How much could she take, and how much could *we* take? She seemed to be keeping few secrets hidden, and on any given night anything and everything was fair game. I loved those shows with an abiding passion. Some of the deepest emotions I ever experienced in my whole life came around on that tour, and I never forget to this day how important all of that was and is to me. The band shows last year and this seemed as if countryside jaunts in the family SUV. She used a more powerful one for the arena shows than she did for the smaller venues, but all were larger-than-life experiences, developed in no small part to impress with their pure might. Surely, she went off-road and utilized four-wheel drive over rugged terrain at points during these shows. Unlike some people, I loved the band shows a great deal, and to see how well she was ultimately able to pull off her vision of them gave me feelings of pride in her abilities as a talented and varied performer. And I liked having a few solo piano songs within the paradigm of a band concert. The shift at those shows between the types of instrumentation was pulled off in a way that seemed both casual and appropriate, and we got to experience the best of each world. For all their sheer force of energy, the band shows were approachable, engaging, welcoming, and often even joyous. I loved the hell out of the band shows. It was with a huge amount of trepidation that I attended the solo piano show last night in Providence. I didn't think my nervous system these days could take a harrowing concert of the type the DDI tour came to exemplify. Frankly, I didn't enjoy watching her having to bear the bulk of the musical burden on her shoulders then, and even just for her to have endured the wear and tear on her body as she did in '96 took a visible toll on her as well. I mean to refer to more than just a physical toll, but an emotional and spiritual one as well. I don't know what all she was going through out there on the road in '96, but we saw enough of its effects on her as a person that I came to be quite concerned for her by tour's end. And although I attended nearly three dozen DDI shows, merely by reading accounts of those shows and talking with people who were there, one could readily tell that bubbling beneath the surface, there was a lot going on with her that year. I was relieved when it finally came to an emotional and life-changing conclusion. I was therefore extremely relieved when I attended last night's solo piano outing in Providence. Yes, she had her lithe sports car, but instead of taking us out at a breakneck pace, she seemed a calmer, less furtive and more seasoned pilot than I had ever seen at a solo show. I am perfectly content not to have to follow her at top speed along dangerous curves. Being led with introspection down dark and winding country roads suits me fine. It's more than enough for me to be able to accompany her on these journeys, no matter what their nature. It's great to simply be with her, and there surely was plenty of her in this Providence concert. Tori has shown that she can pull off a variety of show formats. She has nothing to prove anymore. Now seems to me to be an upcoming time off the road to regroup musically, and simply to live. I think that holds true for many of us, including those of us who go to the shows. I believe she needn't worry who's going to be around the next time she emerges from her garage to take a spin. I'm confident that many of us will be there with our thumbs out hoping to catch a ride, waiting to see where she has decided to take us next. I continue to have an immense amount of faith in her musical sensibilities, and where they steer her on her personal musical journey. And I love her very much. Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #356 *************************************