From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #322 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, October 26 1999 Volume 04 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: SATY mermaid ["The Great Goddess Jolie" ] Re: Regulars, Richard and the Tori Experience [copperdryad ] matt chamberlain ["Danny.Weddup" ] On the road [Mike Richman ] Re: SATY mermaid ["Erin Martin" ] Re: Regulars, Richard and the Tori Experience ["gina" ] Cooling on TVaB [Sliverain@aol.com] massive attack? dallas show? ["d i v i d i n g c a n a a n" ] Re: tvab review @thespark.com [Mikewhy ] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #321 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: platform shoes ["Lynne Toussaint" ] Re: SATY mermaid [ckerley ] Thanks Natalie Emma ["Wake UpNeo" ] Re: Cloud on my Tongue [Gud4AStorm@aol.com] Re: Movie Screening to benefit RAINN? [puppycakes ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:14:21 GMT From: "The Great Goddess Jolie" Subject: Re: SATY mermaid well, a mermaid is the creature in witchcraft that symbolisez the ultimate female power and sexuality. so may tori is saying "what if i'm your ultimate fantasy and yr still looking at her?" Jolie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:08:18 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: Silent all these Years about abortion? I think it is about the abortion Bliss! *^*Cornflakegirl*^* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:18:43 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori on 120 Minutes this Sunday !!!!! wait...so is it on today at midnight??? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:45:58 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: platform shoes IN playboy mommy... Isnt one of the lyrics... wore my platforms hit the floor.. isnt that about her miscarraige... just wondering *^*Cornflakegirl*^* Carrie. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:36:46 EDT From: NNadelS@aol.com Subject: Great News! The article in this months Cosmo says Tori will be embarking on more dates this winter! Anyone have details? - -nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:09:47 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: Regulars, Richard and the Tori Experience Why in the hell do the "fans" have be labled as regulars or not that is bullshit everyone IS AN EQUAL tori fan damn Hugs and stuff *^*Cornflakegirl*^* Bliss! VenusEnvy33@yahoo.com ( to email me privatley) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:41:41 EDT From: NNadelS@aol.com Subject: regular! OH! I want to be Tori Deadhead and travel and meet cool Tori fans and see her all the time and talk to her! That's it, I'm dropping out of school for the upcoming tour! - -nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:43:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nobody Else's Girl" Subject: Looking for Eva Szentpetery Hello, I'm very sorry to bring this up on the list, and I hate doing this. But has anyone heard from Eva? I've tried aseveral times to get a hold of her, and she hasn't responed. About two weeks or so ago I sent her about 4 or 5 CDRs, and would like to know whether they arrived safely and if she was pleased with them. She also owes me her side of ther trade still. I have traded with her in the past, and she has never been one to not send her side of the trade. I'm just getting very concerned. I hope that she is ok, I haven't even seen any posts from her on the Tori lists. If anyone on the list is friends with her, please tell her to get in touch with me. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:39:43 EDT From: NNadelS@aol.com Subject: Help! Anyone have "Butterfly", "Happy Worker" and "Losing My Relgion on bootleg cd? I know there's a boot somewhere that has b-sides with these songs. I have for trade: good quality LE boot, another on tape, also a Sarah Mclachlan boot. Help! - -nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:01:57 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Tori with piglet poster <> Try eBay.com. You'll find it. - -Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:40:29 EDT From: Khloegirl@aol.com Subject: Movie Screening to benefit RAINN? Hey everyone. Okay, so I received this pretty invitation to join Tori and Tim Roth (i think that was his name) for a screening of a new movie in New York City. Reception immediately following. Seats are $250.00 and ALL of the money goes to RAINN. I don't have the invitation with me right now or I would be able to give more details. Did anyone else receive something like this? Did I miss something? K. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Evoking the Goddess: A Tori Amos Trade Page http://members.aol.com/khloegirl/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "However titillating men might find their own fantasy images of the sexually insatiable female, they may be seen to retreat in frantic haste from anything resembling its reality." "Somethings only She knows..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:35:07 EDT From: Fairywinged@aol.com Subject: Re: SATY mermaid well i see mermaid as in she's a mermaid well a mermaid can't wear jeans at all and she trying to fit into this mold for this guys that she just can't fit into because these "jeans" still have her name on them and she's a mermaid that can't wear them at all. kat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:50:54 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: tvab review @thespark.com In a message dated 99-10-23 14:10:17 EDT, you write: << Me? I'm 28 and a teacher. Plus, the most widely-known fan of Tori's music is the creator of the best Tori fan website, Mike Whitehead. He's in his mid 30s and is a computer engineer. The second most widely-known fan is Richard Handal, also in his 30s. And for the most part, Tori's fandom is a community-- a lot of us know each other across the country. >> ========== I Don't think its really fair to label " anyone " as a widely-known fan... I think all of her fans...are equal...and love her all the same... Tori's fans should not be sectioned off and named as widley-known. biggest fan, etc etc...it should all be the same for the love in the end goes to the same person, same direction: tori... Hugs and stuff *^*Cornflakegirl*^* *Carrie*:) VenusEnvy33@yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:55:12 EDT From: Amazon8502@aol.com Subject: Jude airplay.... Hi There, Not that this makes any difference, but I thought it was kind of interesting that Jude was playing that song about his ex-girlfriend getting married at the end of Dawson's Creek last week. As most of you know, Jude opened for Tori during the To Dallas and Back tour. At least he did in Houston. Later. Alessandra ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: matt chamberlain Blissful said: > oooh! he's on fiona's new album?! WEEE! > math chamberlain is a god. Matt's got a Fiona TV thing (a Tonight Show with Leno, I believe), and then a Fiona concert to do, and then in February he's going on tour with her, too. Anyone trying to figure out the earliest possible date of another Tori band tour needs to know when this Fiona tour is going to end. Many things can happen between now and then, anyway, and I caution against thinking much of this kind of thing can really be deduced far in advance, anyhow. Almost none of the Tori events of this year were planned well in advance. Most of it came on rather suddenly. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:48:01 -0700 From: copperdryad Subject: Re: Regulars, Richard and the Tori Experience > C.F. said: > > I have seen Tori a couple of times in concert and even met her once. > > But, it wasn't such a powerful experience to make me give up > > everything else in my life just to have that experience over and > > over. good for you!!! but maybe it was for others. what is your issue with that? that they have the $$ to? that they have met tori many times? that they have seen her many times? it is of no consequence to you that some ppl make every effort to see her as often as possible. just because you don't find it that powerful, doesn't mean that others don't, and that they shouldn't have every right to do so... why be critical of them for it? be well ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:30:16 PDT From: "*ShaDy FeLiNE*" Subject: Re: SATY mermaid I love these ideas, they are a brilliant addition to the ones already in the SATY file in my little red head. ( :o) ) I had a thought while reading them though, her being a mermaid is really relavant, because hey, a mermaid has no legs, she has a tail.. it would be impossible for a mermaid to wear jeans. So she's in the jeans, just the latest one to be in this particular guy's levi's.. and she feels that there is no way she could possibly belong there, but she is still there.. so out of place.. toodles! Amy *Aim* >From: "Wake UpNeo" >Reply-To: "Wake UpNeo" >To: Cindy2Love@aol.com, precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: SATY mermaid >Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:19:59 GMT > > >Hi Cindy; > >You asked: > >"I basically had a question about the mermaid. "what if I'm a mermaid in >these jeans of his with her name still on it" > >What's that about? >Could anyone tell me? >I've always wondered and I just thought I would ask the list" > >I've always 'seen' a pair of jeans that's stretched out in the shape of him >and her (the boyfriend and his ex) but not the speaker (singer). > >Ever worn your boyfriend's jeans ? I picture the singer wearing those >jeans >but knowing/feeling they have been worn by the girl before her, even though >they're the boyfriend's. Maybe in this moment she feels inconsequential or >just like the latest one to wear his jeans. Maybe she feels like the jeans >matter to him more and have more permanence in his life than she does even. > >Maybe it's not even an ex but a rival, judging by some of the other lyrics. >Tori's (or the character she plays when singing it) trying to find her >voice, which hasn't really been there until now (implying she's been >treated >as not very important before and didn't say boo about it), and speak up to >him. "What if I'm a mermaid" is kind of a playful image, it means okay I'm >wearing jeans some other woman's worn of yours, I'm just another girl to >you, but what if I'm not, what if I'm a mermaid... > >In short she is trying to get him to see her individuality and her magic. > >K. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:15:39 +0100 From: "Danny.Weddup" Subject: matt chamberlain Hello everybody, I borrowed Macy Gray's album- On How Life Is- from my brother today, and apart from that it's an absolutely brilliant album, I noticed that Matt Chamberlain plays drums on all the songs on there. Must be the same Matt that does Tori's stuff, right? He's a great drummer who's worked with some great people. Totally apart from that, a while ago someone wrote about i i e e e, saying that ''we all know what it's about now, but when we first heard it, we didn't have a clue.'' Well what is it about? I love that song but I've got no idea. Thanks Danny, 8o) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:19:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Richman Subject: On the road > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:19:21 EDT > From: ". ." > Subject: Re:regulars, richard and the tori experience from a "regular" > > hi there people {great post snipped} > they are the most darling, caring, outrageous, silly, friendly people i > could ever hope to be a part of my life. you don't understand until > you meet them and spend countless nights traveling with them, sleep > with a carload of them in your room, eat with them at the nearest > accomodating denny's, ask with them if anyone has any extra tickets > floating around in their pockets (and experience their subsequent looks > of disgust or generousity. Make me smile....and you forgot one other trait...they say the most profound things at the strangest times. I remember camping out for tickets all night on the DDI tour and it was cold. At one city, two girls who were on their Hejira, standing in front of me were freezing, miserable, and semi-delerious from lack of sleep. They started to talk to me about what Tori songs they wanted played at their funeral. It was bizarre and beautiful. Made us all forget how cold we were. Btw, someone should compile these stories and tie them together into a book. Donate the profits to RAINN. Cheers, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:46:20 -0400 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: Re: SATY mermaid Hullo, I've had a lot of thoughts about that line in the SATY chorus. We've discussed it here before. Sorry if I violate copyright of anyone's thoughts, but I don't remember who said what... I always thought about the Little Mermaid. In the faerie tale, she sold her voice to be with this guy. Not only that, she gave up being a mermaid. In the song, I think she could be saying that she's given up her identity for him, when he can only see her as his ex. Also, a mermaid could never fit into a pair of jeans. She can't fit into this role he's cast her in, the role of his former girl. A mermaid is special, jeans are ordinary, he doesn't realize how amazing she is. Those are some ways I see it. I also consider Merman to be a sequel to SATY in some ways. There's a line that says "he's a merman/doesn't need your voice girls." I take this to mean that this new guy (Mark?) is like her (a mermaid) and she doesn't have to give up anything to be with him. Just some junk food for thought... Erin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:01:43 -0700 From: "gina" Subject: Re: Regulars, Richard and the Tori Experience thought some of you might get a kick out of this...it's from a Psychology journal, and the article deals with sports fans, but i thought the same theories applied to other types of fanatics. - --------------------------- Within the category of fans or fanatics are several other groups...Explained by in-group, out-group bias people will categorize themselves as part of the in-group, the group that they belong to, and all others are a part of the out-group. Often times in-group/out-group biases will occur, where the in-group deems themselves superior to the out-group (Devine, 1996). This may also lead to intergroup bias which is where people of the in-group see their differences as good if it is beneficial to their group and negative when present in the out-group. Another explanation for the behavior of fans is found when looking at the social identity theory, where a person is motivated to behave in ways that will boost their self-esteem (Tesser, 1995). Sports fans feel that they can maintain or boost their self-esteem by identifying with a sports team. Finally fans also demonstrate a process called deindividuation where people lose their self-awareness and have decreased concern for how others around them evaluate their actions (Mann, et al., 1982). In this way people seem to lose or change part of their identity and take on a whole new identity when engrossed in sports. Often times people are swept up in the moment of a sporting event and lose their individuality and act as a group. For example one group of fans may strike out against the opposing team's fans and a riot may break out. ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ men go crazy in congregations-- they only get better One by One ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:19:23 GMT From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: Re: SATY Hi folks. Cindy, cool ideas on this song. I have a little of my own to add: I've thought about the abortion angle of it, too. There's some evidence for this in the song, the obvious one being "boy you best pray..." "my scream got lost in a paper cup do you think there's a heave where the screams have gone?"---I think of the scream as the fetus. She's worried that it isn't going to heaven, or that she hasn't made the most moral/right choice. I think that gets echoed in the next line. Most of the song, however, seems to me, not to be about the abortion but this shitty relationship the narrator is or was trapped in (there is some evidence the relationship is over: "You found a girl...","years go by will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand"). The abortion is one of the consequences of that shitty relationship. In the beginning, she compares the man to the Antichrist. That shows exactly how she feels. "I'll be stripped of my beauty and the orange clouds raining in my head"-- this line always caught my attention because of the orange clouds. I was taught in a writing class that orange is the color associated with madness, delusion, and deceit. I see it in this line as being about the narrators uniqueness, perhaps her artistic ability. She fears that as she ages she will no longer be beautiful or even unique, no man will want her and she'll just be "one more casuality." "saved again by the garbage truck"--the noise of the garbage truck drowns out the screaming, his attacks on her. Or he or she has to get the garbage outside, so she gets a moment of peace away from him. "your mother shows up in a nasty dress it's your turn now to stand where I stand"--the man is belittled and found wanting by his mother, the same way she is by him. It's a circle and although she is bullied by this man, she sort of understands how he became this way, and actually feels some sort of sympathy or pity for him: "here, take hold of my hand." I don't get the mermaid part either. I keep wanting to relate it to "Merman", but I don't see any obvious connection, other than the merfolk in both. Possibly about the same men? In any case, it's a beautiful and moving part of the song. Just MHO, Tom "We own nothing, nothing is ours Not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars But this poverty is our greatest gift The weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift." Emily Saliers, "Everything in Its Own Time" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:21:00 EDT From: Sliverain@aol.com Subject: Cooling on TVaB maybe i missed this, but which show is Cooling from? does anyone know? thanks. - --jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:08:12 -0500 From: "d i v i d i n g c a n a a n" Subject: massive attack? dallas show? Did tori play massive attack before she performed at ALL her performances? 'cause some reviewer said that's what she played at one venue during the 5.5 weeks. but i liked what she was playing during the dallas show. anthonY:) I hate it when I realize I'm not wearing any pants... Wait...did I just say that outloud? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:30:08 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: Great News! At 2:36 AM -0400 10/25/99, NNadelS@aol.com wrote: >The article in this months Cosmo says Tori will be embarking on more dates >this winter! Anyone have details? Nick, this is quite false. Cosmo either had incorrect info or misunderstood. Tori has no plans to tour in the Winter. As far as we know, the show in London this Friday will be it for a while. There will be no more concerts in 1999, and Tori had made no plans for 2000 that we know of... Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "my fear is greater than my faith" Tori Amos - Suede - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:33:18 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: tvab review @thespark.com > Me? I'm 28 and a teacher. Plus, the most > widely-known fan of Tori's music is the creator of the > best Tori fan website, Mike Whitehead. He's in his > mid 30s and is a computer engineer. The second most > widely-known fan is Richard Handal, also in his 30s. > And for the most part, Tori's fandom is a community-- > a lot of us know each other across the country. >> Ack! I am only 32. That is not mid- 30's....not yet anyway. Let's not make me older than I really am. ;) Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "my fear is greater than my faith" Tori Amos - Suede - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:40:02 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #321 In a message dated 10/25/99 1:21:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << I basically had a question about the mermaid. "what if I'm a mermaid in these jeans of his with her name still on it" >> Well, when I first really thought about that line, it suddenly made sense to me. I had been in this relationship for about six months, and everything was going great, except something that bothered me a little. A girl he had had a fling with before me, the fling didn't last very long due to geographical differences, but he really liked her, and kept in contact with her. I knew that he loved me, but whenever he spoke of her, his eyes gave a little glow, and his whole face would light up. I would feel as if I was competing with a ghost. I would try my best to keep his attention on me. Anyway, though I never literally wore his jeans, it's like, here I have him mind and body, but somehow she's not out of the picture. So, I would have to try even harder to get her named erased......try to be something special....such as a mermaid. - -Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:06:20 -0400 From: "Lynne Toussaint" Subject: Re: platform shoes I don't remember what performance it's from, but she told a story once about how she couldn't get the first line right; she'd kept trying different ones out, but they never worked. Anyway, she was somewhere with Beene and a couple other women, who were fighting, and they were all somewhat drunk off wine. Tori and Beene decided they wanted to go outside to get away from the fighting and whatnot. Tori was wearing her Prada platforms, and fells down her spiral staircase, and that's how she said she got the first line. peace out with faerie hugs christina "tried to save myself but myself keeps slipping away" trent reznor, nine inch nails "if you're getting any bright ideas quiet dear i'm blooming within" fiona apple "now i belong i'm one of the chosen ones now i belong i'm one of the beautiful ones" trent reznor - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:45 AM Subject: Re: platform shoes > > IN playboy mommy... > > Isnt one of the lyrics... wore my platforms hit the floor.. > > isnt that about her miscarraige... > > just wondering > > > > *^*Cornflakegirl*^* > Carrie. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:01:21 -0500 From: ckerley Subject: Re: SATY mermaid The Great Goddess Jolie wrote: > well, a mermaid is the creature in witchcraft that symbolisez the ultimate > female power and sexuality. so may tori is saying > > "what if i'm your ultimate fantasy and yr still looking at her?" > > Jolie > actually, this isn't really correct - the mermaid is the revisonary avatar of Sin, Eve's precursor, the ally (if not an embodiment) of Sin's father, satan, and a monstrous likeness of ourselves who exacts the revenge of nature against culture. the treacherous mermaid is the seductive and impenetrable female representative of the dark magic underwater world from which our life comes and in which we cannot live. so- when tori says "what if i'm a mermaid. . ." she's saying what if she cannot be penetrated? what if she's the dark side, the alluring female that a man can never violate? if you want to study this see dorothy dinnerstein's _the mermaid and the minotaur: sexual arrangements and human malaise_ simone de beauvior's _the second sex_ and gilbert and gubar's _the madwoman in the attic_. catherine > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:18:08 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: Thanks Natalie Emma Hi Natalie Emma; You ended your eloquent letter with: "all i can say is nobody understands unless they've done it.  nobody understands until they've made the effort.  met the people.  experienced the immense compassion of them. and the magic of a few months on the road with tori and her crazy crew." I just wanted to thank you publicly for your letter. You expressed quite eloquently what some may be thinking and feeling but had not shared as yet in quite this way. It's human nature perhaps, to project one's own judgments and thoughts onto a situation when the field is left blank to do so. Perhaps part of the misunderstanding has sprung from the silence on the part of many of those who've followed Tori's tour, and the wonderful times they've had during it, the people they've met, the shows they've experienced, etc.; but most of whom hadn't spoken of what it is really like to live it. They say nature abhors a vacuum. Perhaps this is what's happened here. You've expressed what it's actually like, and that the reasons for putting such things first can be and are, (at least) sane. I think, especially if you are young, healthy, have a flexible job, liquid assets/ingenuity, etc., it must be quite an adventure. And certainly often more. Anyway, thank you for unfurling a rope bridge to those of us on the other side of the canyon so to speak. It just might lead to better understanding. Sharing is so cool ;o) K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:37:10 EDT From: Gud4AStorm@aol.com Subject: Re: Cloud on my Tongue Sorry if this is a re-post....I waited about 36 hours and haven't seen it show up yet, so.... There's been a lot of discussion about this song recently, and thought I would "throw another log on the kitchen fire" so to speak. The online symbolism dictionary defines wood this way: In Catholicism, wood is most frequently associated with the cross. It may also represent the totality of paradise, shelter, the cradle or the coffin. The carpenter uses tools symbolic of the divine power of bringing order out of chaos. As for "cloud", I personally interpret Tori's repeated use of this word (Cloud on My Tongue, Concertina, Silent All These Years and Spring Haze) as symbolic of her creative process. For example, "orange clouds raining in my head", I think represent her ideas that evolve into her "girls". With that in mind, a "cloud sleeping her tongue" would perhaps represent concepts that are as yet out of reach, or on the "tip of her tongue". To explore more of the possible symbolism in this song, go to Cloud on my Tongue or http://members.aol.com/gud4astorm/utp10.html from The Biggest Thickest Ever Sky. This shameless plug brought to you by: Michelle Tori Lyrics Information at The Biggest Thickest Ever Sky: http://members.aol.com/gud4astorm/index.html "Go out in the woods, go out. If you don't go out in the woods, nothing will ever happen and your life will never begin. Go out in the woods, go out." ~ Clarissa Estes "Rolling and unrolling, coiling, emerging, running free - running through the underworld into your room." ~ Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:27:39 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: Re: Movie Screening to benefit RAINN? when we last left our heroes, Khloegirl@aol.com exclaimed: >Okay, so I received this pretty invitation to join Tori and Tim Roth (i think >that was his name) for a screening of a new movie in New York City. >Reception immediately following. Seats are $250.00 and ALL of the money goes >to RAINN. I don't have the invitation with me right now or I would be able >to give more details. Did anyone else receive something like this? Did I >miss something? we received one of these as well. i'm not sure, but i'd wager that folks subscribed to the really deep thoguhts fanzine who likve within a reasonable distance of new york city received these invitations (the one we received was addressed to my better half, whose name is on our subscription to rdt). anyways, the movie is "war zone", directed by tom roth, and it appears to have received some accolades from those who viewed it at various film festivals over the past year. (for more information about the film, see its page at the internet movie database: .) the rainn benefit screening, which it appears tori will attend, is on december 7th at the beekman theater on new york city's upper east side. afterwards, there will be a reception. the fine print says that $190 of the $250 ticket price is tax deductible, so one assumes that at least some of the ticket price is going towards the event itself. woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #322 *************************************