From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #217 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, July 22 1999 Volume 04 : Number 217 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tori amos on yahoo! ad [Dominick W Olivas ] I need Tori pictures--help! [ToriPhileX@aol.com] re: new singles [abbe@mit.edu] I HAVEN'T HEARD 1,000 OCEANS! [Tripp Gwyn ] the 71st greatest woman in rock and roll ["Lauren DePhillips" ] tips anyone?? plus comments RE: Tori Story in Billboard magazine [XXXPand] Journalist @ the Columbia show for scrapbook ["Kristy" ] Re: the regular talula version [Nadyne Mielke ] I'm lost... I'm stumbling [Twinkle018@aol.com] Re: Journalist @ the Columbia show for scrapbook [KAPS72@aol.com] Whole Lotta Teen Spirit ["Tha Shaigirl" ] Re: (Tori-boot) Re: the regular talula version [Cruel2000@aol.com] Re: (Tori-boot) Re: the regular talula version [AugieSant@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:37:58 -0700 From: Dominick W Olivas Subject: Re: tori amos on yahoo! ad I was surfing tonite and noticed this ad about tori and RAINN...here's the url: http://promotions.yahoo.com/promotions/rainn2/ take it easy... dominick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:10:56 EDT From: ToriPhileX@aol.com Subject: I need Tori pictures--help! I'm becoming a very disgruntled little monkey in my search for quality Tori pics on the net. Anyone direct me to a good Tori picture site? Any help would be very nice, as it's wayyy past my bedtime, and I've come up with '404 webpage not found' too many frigging times :oP HELLPP! Reece ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:50:41 -0400 From: abbe@mit.edu Subject: re: new singles Wait a sec...Tripp, did you just say 1,000 Oceans *is* your favorite Tori song ever? What exactly am I missing? When did you become an insider, and how can we bribe you to share your insider info with us? ;) Seriously, though... a new single getting airplay as soon as August 6? Hooray! More things to help make the time start flying. =) I wonder, though. Is the capitalization in Sonicnet's article correct? Does the album specifically have no capital letters in the title? - --Abbe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:34:11 -0400 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: I HAVEN'T HEARD 1,000 OCEANS! Boy, am I paying for my mistake! HA! Anyways, I mean the title! Not the song itself. If I had a sound clip everyone in the world would have a copy by this moment :-) Sorry to get everyone so excited.... Tripp Gwyn tgwyn@infoave.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:13 PDT From: "Lauren DePhillips" Subject: the 71st greatest woman in rock and roll Hello everyone. You probably know that tori is #71 in a list of VH1 100 greatest women in rock and roll. I just wanted to know if they are actually counting this down on tv and will there be a little story for each artist and if so does anyone know what night tori will be on? lauren15@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/7657 evening stretched her cloak ********************** King Solomons Mine's Exit 75 I'm still alive I'm still alive *********************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:35:15 EDT From: ILuvBea09@aol.com Subject: Tori in Mademoiselle :) Hey everyone, I just got my August issue of Mademoiselle and you know how they have the monthly calendar thing ? Well there is a tiny pic of Tori and under it it says "Tori's on Tour." and there is a little blurb on how the 5 1/2 week tour starts on Aug. 18 in Ft. Lauderdale....lol they do mention Alanis in the blurb but she is like secondary to Tori...hehe I thought it was kewl anyway..... peace out~ cat :) ps~ it's on page 55 if you want to go to a store and just look at it quick w/ out buying it..lol..hehe :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:50:36 EDT From: "Black Dove" Subject: the regular talula version Hey Guys, Today I was in Barnes and Noble and I was looking through their Tori cds and I saw a copy of Boys For Pele, and I looked on the back at the songs to see if it possibly had the regular version of Talula instead of the tornado mix, and it did!! So I bought. When I got home and and compared it to the boys for pele with the tonado mix on it, i saw that the one that I just bought today was longer than the tonado mix. Plus the cd looked fogger on the cover. SO i really thought I had found something. When I put the cd in my player to listen it, it turns out that it was the exact same thing as the tonado version, even the same lenght. I was pretty pissed. So I was wondering what I should do, should I take it back to the store or what? ANy suggestions would be great!! Thanks Terry AIM--PoetMan888 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:51:58 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: tips anyone?? plus comments RE: Tori Story in Billboard magazine In a message dated 7/20/1999 10:52:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, woj@smoe.org writes: << i'm sure the new material will be worth it, but i'd prefer her release _to venus and back_ separately. one disc of live material just won't be enough to be really representative of the plugged shows. aiming for a "semblance of what they saw" is aiming too low, imho. >> she was only originally going to release one disc of live material ... it was never anything more than that ... only originally it was to come with a b-sides cd, but not live b-sides. I wish she would have kept the live and b-sides together (because I really want a b-sides collection) but I am psyched about the new stuff. It all still seems unreal to me, it hasn't really sunk in yet :) I'm like not ready for her to put out a new album, you know what I mean?? But yet it is so wonderful! I guess it will during the concert. Which by the way ... should I try to record it? It's going to be the first concert and maybe the first time we'll hear some of the new songs. From my past experience of being at the first shows of the last 2 tours the first show is a really special show just like the last one ... does anyone have any tips for doing this?? I'm not really sure about doing it because I dont really know how I feel about it ... but if any of you have done it before, email me privately and give me the details about what goes on. Thanks in advance :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:41:16 -0400 From: "Kristy" Subject: Journalist @ the Columbia show for scrapbook For everyone participating in the scrapbook at the August 25th show in Columbia, MD (or DC, it's the same): I was e-mailed last nite by a journalist for an "east coast magazine that is read by over 90,000 people." He said that he is coming to the August 25th show to take pictures and interview the EWF doing the scrapbook...he said he's doing a feature on it. :o) Apparently he came across the website by accident, and wants to do a feature on us. :o) so, YAY! I think it's very exciting. So I thought I should warn everyone going to that show in advance in case you have any problems or concerns with it. Once again: he'll be photographing you working on the scrapbook and also interviewing a few of you. :o) If anyone going to this show wants to discuss this with me, feel free to e-mail me or post back to PT. take care everyone! Love and Sparkles, Kristy (\o/) "Sometimes you just have to roast marshmallows over your own fire..." ¤Tori Amos¤ §Visit my Tori Amos website, at http://fly.to/behindmyeyes§ *Take part in Project 5 1/2 Weeks, find all of the info you need at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/9269 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:36:37 -0400 From: "Kristy" Subject: Latest Scrapbook Project Info. :o) Hi everyone. :o) So far, the scrapbook project is coming along quite nicely. A new section has been added to the site, titled "How To Join Your Group at the Venue." So please all go check that out, and if anyone doesn't have internet access please e-mail me and I'll gladly fill you in. Also, here's a note, if you're doing any of the below: *Buffalo to Columbus *Columbus to Indianapolis *Indianapolis to Toronto *Toronto to Pittsburgh *Milwaukee to Minneapolis *Minneapolis to Concord ~please~please~please~ e-mail me or visit the site, we really need these shows covered to make this possible!!! Also, if anyone else is attending the following shows: *Milwaukee *Minneapolis *Concord *Phoenix *Las Vegas *the 2nd LA show also please go to the site or e-mail me, as we are lacking people for those shows. For the Phoenix and Las Vegas we only have 1 person! :-o So c'mon my darlings, let's get this thing going... :o) (not to mention NO ONE for Minneapolis) Love and Sparkles, Kristy (\o/) "Sometimes you just have to roast marshmallows over your own fire..." ¤Tori Amos¤ §Visit my Tori Amos website, at http://fly.to/behindmyeyes§ *Take part in Project 5 1/2 Weeks, find all of the info you need at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/9269 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:28:45 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: the regular talula version At 01:50 PM 7/21/99 -0400, Black Dove wrote: >Hey Guys, > >Today I was in Barnes and Noble and I was looking through their Tori cds and >I saw a copy of Boys For Pele, and I looked on the back at the songs to see >if it possibly had the regular version of Talula instead of the tornado mix, >and it did!! So I bought. When I got home and and compared it to the boys >for pele with the tonado mix on it, i saw that the one that I just bought >today was longer than the tonado mix. Plus the cd looked fogger on the >cover. SO i really thought I had found something. When I put the cd in my >player to listen it, it turns out that it was the exact same thing as the >tonado version, even the same lenght. I was pretty pissed. So I was >wondering what I should do, should I take it back to the store or what? ANy >suggestions would be great!! Here's the lowdown on the different versions of the US BfP, as taken from the Tori FAQ: (Q) How many different versions of this album are there? (A) The different versions of the album are as follows: 1.The first one with the "regular" Talula. 800,000 of these were printed. 2.The second one, with the Tornado mix replacing the plain Talula. Some of these are hard to distinguish from (1) 'cause the CD changed, but the liner did not. Subsequent pressings of this have reprinted the liners as well. 3.EastWest released a version of BfP which replaces PW with the "Armand's Star Trunk Funkin'" remix and also removes ItSoHV. 4.The Japanese pressing of BfP adds Toodles Mr. Jim to the end of the album. {Sorry if the formatting comes out weird, I'm cutting and pasting from the online HTML document.} You can try to take it back to the store, but I dunno if they'll swap it out. It's not their fault, it's Atlantic's. In addition, there is -NO- way to know whether or not you're getting a BfP with the original Talula besides by listening to it. A whole lot of Tori information can be found in the various FAQs on the rec.music.tori-amos website at . /nad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:37:06 EDT From: Twinkle018@aol.com Subject: I'm lost... I'm stumbling I'm needing to let go of some of my thoughts right now... please bare w/ me. When I had first learned of Tori's rape, I was relieved that I had someone to identify w/. Although, I wasn't raped... I was abused sexually for years. I hate feeling like there is a cut-and-dry definition of rape. There really isn't one. But, back to now... I never thought that I'd completely understand Tori's miscarriage. I knew of the emotions... I understood them. I had almost lost my son. But, he is w/ me today... so, how could I ever really know? My mother told me of a baby she lost. It was so difficult. She didn't tell me until I was 22. Still, the rollercoasters of emotion weren't strong. I was at work a couple of Mondays ago, when I got this call from my husband... "Tabby's baby is dead." Tabby is my sister-in-law... the closest woman to me... a spiritual sister... We have anticipated her child's life for so long now. She got married last Mar. She got pregnant three weeks later. She was just starting her fourth month of pregnancy. I'm still in shock. She has this amazing way of dealing w/ this. I'm so in awe of her. Although, she knew the day her baby died... and has prepared herself. They were at the doctor's office to hear the heartbeat when they found out. They ended up doing an ultrasound to see the heart beating. Tabitha knew that the baby should be moving and that you should see the heart beating. Brian had no idea. He had the biggest smile on his face... "ear to ear grin" she said. Tabitha said her tiny child looked so perfect... except... that it's heart was not beating. Brian said that he had went from the highest point of happiness in his life to the lowest point of sorrow in his life. He had been so focused on the screen that he didn't realize that everyone else was standing there silent in sorrow. I want to take away their pain, but I know that will never happen. All I can do is listen to them... and allow them to feel what they need to feel. These words keep haunting me... "Little girl wrapped up so tight inside your mother's body... And they come to take you away... Five seconds, highest to lowest... Ride High... Way Up To The Sky... Ride High on the angel's wings... way up to the Heavens... Don't forget your sunshine smile can warm away your fears... And if Heaven is so great... Why can't I let you go?" So, my song haunts me. I'm so proud of Tabitha. She is so strong. She is at peace w/ her child. That is my only relief. My little girl is so sad. She says, "Tabby's baby died just like Tori's, Mommy?" I just say, "Yes. And it's ok if that makes you sad or upset. You can cry or do whatever you need to do." Our friend called us last weekend... His sister... whom my husband grew up w/... was killed in a car accident. Her boyfriend crashed his car into a tree at 75+ miles an hour under the influence of drugs. She is gone. I am hoping this tragedy is the last. I guess what I am saying is that I am finding strength in Tori's music right now. I'm finding strength in people I never knew had that kind of endurance. I'm finding strengths in myself. I'm finding my music. But, I'm almost resenting the issues that are bringing me back to my music. I have always used it to cope, though. I'm curious if anyone has any Tori quotes from the time of her miscarriage that they could send to me. I have some. I'm just looking for anything... anything to grip onto right now. I'm terrible sorry to post such a draining post. I needed to say this and I didn't know where to turn. I thank you for letting me turn. Desiree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:42:11 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Journalist @ the Columbia show for scrapbook Hooray! They've noticed us! How exciting! = ) Kim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:59:58 EST From: "Tha Shaigirl" Subject: Whole Lotta Teen Spirit Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone out there knew the exact date for the Whole Lotta Teen Spirit recording. I know it was live in San Juan, 1993 but then when I was looking in the back of my "collectibles" book... trying to find a date... there aren't any tours listed in '93. Hmm... anyways... anyone help me? Thanks! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:21:05 EDT From: Cruel2000@aol.com Subject: Re: (Tori-boot) Re: the regular talula version In a message dated 99-07-21 19:37:54 EDT, nadyne@rmta.org writes: > You can try to take it back to the store, but I dunno if they'll swap it > out. It's not their fault, it's Atlantic's. In addition, there is -NO- > way to know whether or not you're getting a BfP with the original Talula > besides by listening to it. > A good suggestion would be going to used cd stores like CD Warehouse ...etc...well, you know. used cd stores. That let you listen to the cds before you buy. and you can see! and buy the used cd! if you already have the other one with the tornado mix on it, there's no point in buying a new one, you know. just a though. that way you can insure you have the right version you want. : ) =kris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:50:53 EDT From: AugieSant@aol.com Subject: Re: (Tori-boot) Re: the regular talula version here are my two cents on the Talula thing... in my experience i have seen 4 different versions of BFP....one with the "regular" talula, which is the one that begins with the "congratulate you..." part, which is the version printed in the songbook...the second being the one with the Tornado version which was released after Talula was on the Twister soundtrack...yes this version is a bit shorter because it replaced the "congratulate you..." part with the "he's chasing Tornadoe's...." part and it replaced the "say goodbye..." part with Tori whispering "waiting..." right before the "ran into the henchmen..." verse....also in this version of Talula, she repeats the first verse, while in the original if you listen closely she says..."yeah.." the Third version of BFP that I have seen was the import that takes out Voodoo, and adds the remix of ProWidow...if memory serves that one has the tornado version of Talula in it...now the 4th...has toodles mr jim as the last track...that one I have only seen once....as far as the look of the cd for all 4...well from what I remember the only difference is that the CD that has the tornado version is a little bit darker than the one with the original Talula...or is it the other way around....I don't really remember...I had the BFP with the tornado version but...lost it to a friend...so I got it again but this time i accidentaly picked up the one with the OG Talula...which I am glad I did....anyway, I have a question for the girl that got it at B&N, was the CD overed in plastic when you got it?...and I don't mean the shrink wrap but a loose plastic...because if it was you might have bought a used CD that was returned and someone really sneaky could have switched CDs on them...anyway...hope this helps....and lemme know how things turn out...ciao! ~~Carlos ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #217 *************************************