From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #209 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, July 14 1999 Volume 04 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori on VH-1 on Wednesday ["Ears with Feet" ] cellaphane. [Talulagrl1@aol.com] iieee interps?/indusTORIal story ["Erin Martin" ] Re: snow cherries from france [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: CATON! [Torium@aol.com] Re: Just a thought... [Richard Handal ] re: just a thought [Inke Feder ] MESSAGE FROM TORI [Greenorb21@aol.com] 5.5 tour in Entertainment Weekly [Super Chick ] Tori Story in Billboard magazine ["Trent Miguel Vanegas" ] local Tori mention ["Erin Martin" ] alternative press [Beulahsd@aol.com] Re: iieee interps?/indusTORIal story ["squidgy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:51:44 GMT From: "Ears with Feet" Subject: Tori on VH-1 on Wednesday I just wanted to let you all know that Tori will be on VH-1^Òs "Before They Were Rock Stars 3" on Wednesday at 10:00pm. If you did not see it last time, here is your chance to see it again. AJ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:36:55 EDT From: Talulagrl1@aol.com Subject: cellaphane. dont forget about pj harvey she was wrapped in cellephane on the back cover of what was that 4 track demos? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:00:14 -0400 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: iieee interps?/indusTORIal story Hi! I've had Iiee on the brain a lot lately and wondered if anybody had ever really interpreted it. I think I understand the chorus but I don't know about the rest. Here are the lyrics (from Thoughts Right Now) in case you've forgotten. :) With your E's and your ease and I do one more need a lip gloss boost in your America is it God's is it yours sweet saliva with your E's and your ease and I do one more I know we're dying and there's no sign of a parachute we scream in cathedrals why can't it be beautiful why does there gotta be a sacrifice just say yes you little arsonist you're so sure you can save every hair on my chest just say yes you little arsonist with your E's and your ease and I do one more well I know we're dying and there's no sign of a parachute in this chapel little chapel of love can't we get a little grace and some elegance no we scream in cathedrals why can't it be beautiful why does there gotta be a sacrifice just say yes you little arsonist with your E's and your ease and I do one more well I know we're dying and there's no sign of a parachute in this chapel little chapel of love can't we get a little grace and some elegance no we scream in cathedrals why can't it be beautiful why does there gotta be a sacrifice Here's a sTori that I find amusing. I was sitting out on my porch with my b/f who likes and respects Tori but isn't a huge fan. I suddenly started feeling bad, all anxious and panicky. I had him talk to me to get me out of it. When that failed, I knew what it would take. The song I save for times like these. So I carefully removed my UK Crucify from the plastic packaging (I always put it back for safekeeping!) and put on "Mary." Afterwards, I felt better, of course. Claude asked me why I liked it and we talked about that and then he looked over at his synthesizer and announced, "It gave me lots of ideas for industrial music I wanna do." I thought that was really funny for some reason.;) Hugs, Erin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:32:55 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: snow cherries from france At 11:18 PM 7/11/1999 PDT, Lauren DePhillips wrote: [the lost bee-sides] >I don't think I've ever even heard of these songs...does anyone know >anything about them?? We only know they exist. Tori has mentioned them in articles, but no one's actually heard them or knows lyrics or anything. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:44:31 EDT From: Torium@aol.com Subject: Re: CATON! << You all must hear it...ask Matt Page , Dink , or Erin O'Neill for further praise . Some other Toriphiles have an advance copy also - ask around!! >> I can't say enough good things about the band - the CD is absolutely amazing. There isn't one track on the single that I don't like. I think everyone will be surprised at how well Caton sings and as always his guitar work is excellent. I feel so lucky to be getting a new Tori single (maybe, at least on the radio) and the first binge single so quickly! I can't wait to hear the single after its final mastering. If you would like to find out more about Caton and Binge, check out Bee Guitars. I have also added a new page dedicated to Binge. Even more exciting, a new mailing is now available which gives Caton an oppurtunity to talk to the fans and keep them updated about his latest projects. If anyone is interested in advertising the site/single feel free to post the following coding for an animated Binge Banner: [Unable to display image] Be Sure To Pick Up The Single! dink :)~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Just a thought... Joshiieee, in response to a post I made, asked: > Richard...if she's made a deal with Atlantic to never release it > again, and she buys out that contract couldn't that end up being a > stipulation to buying it out? First off, I'm not a lawyer. I have the sense that Tori isn't 100% happy with where she is right now, and think she'd like something better. That's pretty much the end of my speculation at this point. I'm not even entirely sure what your question is. One thing I do know is that pretty much everything is negotiable. In life, I mean. I'm curious about this "buying out" idea. George Michael was stuck for a number of years with a contract he was openly hostile towards, Prince performed for years with the word "SLAVE" writ large on his right cheek to express how unhappy he was about being held to *his* contract. (I know I'm forgetting another major act, too.) If they could have simply bought out their contracts then why didn't they? Surely they had more "artist mass" and money at those points in their careers than Tori has achieved so far. If they couldn't get out of their contracts then I don't understand how Tori might "buy out" *her* contract. If there are any lawyers here who might be able to shed some light on this whole idea I'd be curious to learn more about it. I really have no serious knowledge about such things. > I also totally agree with the second paragraph about the indie label > thing. If Tori had no one she trusted to whom she could delegate the actual business day-to-day and other responsibilities and had to do this hands-on from scratch as Ani did, there isn't a chance in hell that she'd ever consider such an option. But she has a lot of people she trusts and is quite happy to delegate to those who know their specialties, so I really see that she might try to work out a way to have her own label, or otherwise figure out a way so she ends up with much more control than she's got right now once her Atlantic contract runs out. One more general question. I keep hearing that Tori has split with eastwest in England. It may be true there, but not true for other parts of Europe and Oz. If anyone has some hard info on this I'd love to know what's going on. I'm loathe to post rumors, but maybe someone can track down some facts on this. This rumor seems to have come, in one instance, from someone in England who has no internet access, so he's clearly not just repeating anything he saw here. Thanks to anyone who can let us know what's really going on. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:27:34 +0200 From: Inke Feder Subject: re: just a thought well, in Germany YCTR is still available as "i cant tori read" with a white background. I know, the number is wrong, but you can get this CD at most CD stored here (Saturn included). Pet is or was a band at atlantic, Tori was their executive producer. I know, because i own this CD. Inke - --------------------------------------------***----------- ****** Your troubles * * * cannot climb, * * walk or roam. ****** or cycle - -----***-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:41:49 EDT From: Greenorb21@aol.com Subject: MESSAGE FROM TORI The message below is what Tori sent to her fans regarding Steve Caton's new band, Binge . It is absolutely from her ; whoever gets to speak to her at the shows can ask her about it .Until then, please just trust me. I thought you all might like this one: **********As I listen to the theme from "Starsky & Hutch", I am reminded of the first margarita I ever had. Soon after that, I wore a black wig a lot and the person that gave me my first margarita also gave me my first background singing gig for his band, in my black wig. It wasn't called "in my black wig", it was called "Climate of Crisis". Some people, as I recall, said some very hurtful things about the way I moved on stage as a back-up singer. Caton came to my defense and told me to stick with it. No matter what, he wasn't going to fire me. Funny thing, people come up to me now and say they like the strings on my records, and I always tell them "you sucker, that's not strings, that's Caton." Whether we are creating together, or he is creating his own music, as with Binge, he continues to inspire me as a musician. Tori Amos 7/7/99*************************************************** Binge's new EP will be available in a few days . My e-mail address is GreenOrb21@aol.com , for those who do not yet know it . Please let me know what you think about this adorable story - - Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:10:56 -0400 From: Super Chick Subject: 5.5 tour in Entertainment Weekly I found this while on break at work yesterday, in the Tour Guide section of EW. ALANIS MORISSETTE/TORI AMOS If your idea of getting in touch with your inner child involves riding the subway naked or breastfeeding a piglet, this MP3-sponsored tour is for you. DATES: Aug 18-Sept 25 TICKETS: $20-$40 WHAT TO WEAR: Nothing WHAT TO LISTEN TO IN THE VW BEETLE: Jagged Little Pill (what? she has another one?) WHAT TO PACK: Bridget Jones's Diary WHAT YOU'LL END UP WITH: Smaller therapy bills WHAT TO PAY A SCALPER: $50 (and a big "Thank U") This was actually the nicest thing EW said about any of the tours. They suggested that only aging 80s hipsters would be attending the REM shows, and said to pack Viagra if you are attending the Bob Dylan tour. I love both these artists! Me with my 18 year old self. Sheesh, dont you just love catty journalism? Cheers, Natalie AOL Instant Message SoCenRain "give me life give me pain give me myself again" ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:43:22 -0400 From: "Trent Miguel Vanegas" Subject: Tori Story in Billboard magazine Tori Amos Details Her Forthcoming 'Venus' Set BY CHUCK TAYLOR NEW YORK -- When singer/songwriter Tori Amos went into the studio several months ago to record a few new tracks for a planned collection of B-sides and oddities, little did she know she'd step out not only with a full album's worth of new material, but also with a second set packed with live performances. The resulting double-album, "to venus and back," Amos' fifth project on Atlantic, is set for release Sept. 21. It features live renditions from the recent tour supporting her "from the choirgirl hotel" album and 12 new self-penned/produced tracks, which are tagged with the intense, soul-searching lyrical textures and complex melodies that the platinum artist's steadfast base of fans has come to live and breathe. For the unexpected studio album, Amos says that she found herself confronted with a free flow of inspiration and decided to run with it. "I had originally thought we were tracking stuff for the B-sides album, and all of these songs kept coming," she says. "The writing gods decided to stop by, and you try and be there when the muse decides she wants to hang out with you." "To venus and back" will be previewed with an as-yet-undetermined track to hit radio Aug. 6, with a commercial single likely to follow. Both are aimed to coincide with Amos' 25-date, co-headlining tour with Alanis Morissette, opening Aug. 18 in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and wrapping Sept. 25 in Los Angeles. Fans and proponents of the artist have long held her live gigs to be the benchmark of Amos' full creative sense of expression, particularly given her signature rhythm-and-writhe performance style, which must be seen to be fully appreciated. "The show that we did was about an hour and 40 minutes every night. We're trying to get the people that have come to the show a semblance of what they saw," Amos says of the album, though she acknowledges that it's a tough task picking which performances best fit the project. "I hope to get 11 or 12 songs on the album, but 'Waitress' is 9&fraction; minutes long, and 'Precious' is seven minutes long. We'll have to see which ones make the semifinals." A BAND IN TOW The new studio album marks the first time Amos has recorded with her road band, in this case a team of four musicians she shared a bus with for nine months. The five play on the live album, as well. "You get to know who likes the pizza crust and which one likes 'Teletubbies' at that point," Amos says. "Something happens when you spend that much time with people. "It became quite exciting, because we had no idea we were cutting a new record. It just grabbed me by the throat, really," she adds. "We ended up working around the clock and putting it together pretty quickly." Themes on "venus" range from a troubling anthem about unavoidable father and daughter ties on "Bliss" to a whirlwind Los Angeles-based fantasy about the decade past in "Glory Of The '80s," from which the album title is derived. "Looking back, I wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else in the '80s than as a working musician in L.A.," Amos notes. "You just can't match that kind of decadence." HIDDEN BEHIND THE HEART "No one event shaped this record," she says of the full body of the project. "I sort of just let my observations take over. I realized that as a songwriter, you're not always going to have those moments where you're flying over Afghanistan and seeing fires and being told it's a war. You have to keep taking adventures and exposing yourself, but there are things in daily living that hide behind everybody's heart, and that's always fascinated me." Instrumental sounds are even more experimental than with previous efforts, bordering on industrial in some cases, alongside the traditional mass of sometimes joyous, often deliberately chaotic, vocal layers that define Amos. That stamp is all the stronger with her behind the boards as producer of the project. "Being my own producer, no one can buy me to turn on my artist," she says wryly. "I also understand how they work with budgets, so I realize how not to get ripped off that way." Amos contends that making a record is very much a group effort that, for her, is not a single-minded mode of thinking. "It's not like I don't have a team of musicians and engineers around me that I respect," she says. When one of them has a suggestion, "I will literally change my shoes and let the artist leave the room," she adds. "There's the one side who writes songs and spills her guts out. Then she leaves, and we have to make it good on the other side." She will have the opportunity to present much of the new material during the upcoming tour with Morissette, which Amos finds an appropriate pairing -- but for reasons that have little to do with musical matchmaking. "I've never done a tour like this before -- with somebody," Amos says. "It was actually [Morissette's] idea. She had come to see me at Jones Beach [in Long Island, N.Y.], and we had a cup of tea and a giggle and got along really well. "We share a lot of the same philosophies of putting on a show, which is important. I'm talking about the semantics of it, not just the music. Having all of these people on the road together is like a little town on the road, where you're all part of the same tribe. People do it differently, and it's difficult to pull it off with someone who doesn't hold the same priorities. "I do think we're going to draw people that want an exciting evening," she says. With her work on the albums nearly done and a tour on the books, Amos says she's ready to present her new testaments to her public, hoping they'll enjoy it, but with no particular mandate. "I have no idea what people think about when they listen to my work," she says. "It's one of those things where if I was a fly, I probably wouldn't want to be in the room. I just put it out there, and people can think what they want." Copyright © 1999 Billboard Magazine and BPI Communications Inc. All rights reserved. Hosted by Telescan Inc. LEGAL NOTICE 'Hold me under Let the river wash away my sins Let me drown and you Let the water and the love rush you You can hear me whisper When you're listenin' --Heather Nova ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:44:09 -0400 From: becky Subject: Re: Starf*ckers inc. You know - you could also put this to Courtney, which would show that Trent and Tori are in cahoots about the woman. Look at the lyrics one more time and think about it. becky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:17:48 -0400 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: local Tori mention Hi! I was reading the Roanoke Times & World News today and in the extra section, there was an article about a local deejay named Tori Mazur. Here's two clips: "Her cats--Eppy the Worm, a shorthair, and Talula, long hair named after a Tori Amos song--are a favorite subject." "For example, she's given out a toll-free hotline number--800-656-HOPE--that singer Tori Amos set up to help vicims of rape and incest. 'Maybe someone out there is hurting,' Mazur says, 'and they need that information.'" I thought that was neat. As soon as I saw a red haired Tori on the front, I knew the article'd be good. :) Erin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:09:26 EDT From: Beulahsd@aol.com Subject: alternative press who's on the cover of the alternative press mag w/ tori in it? i looked through the one w/ kid rock and i didn't see any pics. of tori. anyone know? peace and tori love, sarah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:31:02 +0100 From: "squidgy" Subject: Re: iieee interps?/indusTORIal story Maybe she mean's that by taking these "E's", she can create beautiful imagery, including an idea of what the afterlife could look like - in her head - during these 'trips', and why cant these images become reality during dying and eventual death. The sacrifice of life is death -that you're very lucky that 'you've had a chance of a lifetime' literally, but that life has to come to an end at some point however long or short it may have been. Squidge - ---------- >From: "Erin Martin" >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: iieee interps?/indusTORIal story >Date: Tue, Jul 13, 1999, 9:00 > > > Hi! I've had Iiee on the brain a lot lately and wondered if anybody had ever > really interpreted it. I think I understand the chorus but I don't know > about the rest. Here are the lyrics (from Thoughts Right Now) in case you've > forgotten. :) > > With your E's > and your ease > and I do one more > need a lip gloss boost > in your America > is it God's > is it yours > sweet saliva > with your E's > and your ease > and I do one more > I know we're dying > and there's no sign of a parachute > we scream in cathedrals > why can't it be beautiful > why does there gotta be a sacrifice > just say yes > you little arsonist > you're so sure you can save > every hair on my chest > just say yes > you little arsonist > with your E's > and your ease > and I do one more > well I know we're dying > and there's no sign of a parachute > in this chapel > little chapel of love > can't we get a little grace > and some elegance > no we scream in cathedrals > why can't it be beautiful > why does there > gotta be a sacrifice > just say yes > you little arsonist > with your E's > and your ease > and I do one more > well I know we're dying > and there's no sign of a parachute > in this chapel > little chapel of love > can't we get a little grace > and some elegance > no we scream in cathedrals > why can't it be beautiful > why does there > gotta be a sacrifice > > > > Here's a sTori that I find amusing. I was sitting out on my porch with my > b/f who likes and respects Tori but isn't a huge fan. I suddenly started > feeling bad, all anxious and panicky. I had him talk to me to get me out of > it. When that failed, I knew what it would take. The song I save for times > like these. So I carefully removed my UK Crucify from the plastic packaging > (I always put it back for safekeeping!) and put on "Mary." Afterwards, I > felt better, of course. Claude asked me why I liked it and we talked about > that and then he looked over at his synthesizer and announced, "It gave me > lots of ideas for industrial music I wanna do." I thought that was really > funny for some reason.;) > > Hugs, > Erin ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #209 *************************************