From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #174 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, June 14 1999 Volume 04 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: dent photo of the week faked?? [conchita@home.com] Tori booties ["E.L Walker" ] Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? [Daisy Dead Petals ] Cornflakes and all... ["Mark Harbott" ] Re: rabbit, the golden gun and overanalyzing lyrics [Gud4AStorm@aol.com] Re: peggy/piggy?? [not persephone ] Meet & greets...tori's b-day..etc. ["Beth Price" ] Place to buy stuff [Heather980@aol.com] Virginia Stores [Terry Ferrell ] Place to buy stuff [Heather980@aol.com] more on Cornflake Girl [Super Chick ] Re: YKTR [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: on the road [Terry Ferrell ] Re: love her madly..... [Annie McDaniel ] the little faeries are buzzing...... [kelly matton ] Pieces of Tori Mailing List? ["Ms.Envy" ] tori and trent? [Debbie ] Tori in summer 99 Teen People [JewlyaINAP@aol.com] Re: Meet & greets...tori's b-day..etc. [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Cornflakes and all... [Nadyne Mielke ] 2 Million Cents and One More [Twinkle018@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:31:58 -0700 From: conchita@home.com Subject: Re: dent photo of the week faked?? i wondered about that pic, I'm sure they did something to it, I'm just not sure exactly what. I've studied tori long enough to know that's not naturelle, its pretty though! ;) lotsa luv, Conchita the kitty-kat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:12:33 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: Tori booties Does anyone know of anyone who sells Tori bootlegs in England?, your help would be mucho appreciated. ta, Squidgy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:37:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Daisy Dead Petals Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? As far as I know, this is VERY not correct. Tori is NOT opening for Alanis. This is a co-headlining tour. It is NOT Alanis' tour. The very idea is insulting, at least to me :) Just kidding. But while Tori may be on first, she is certainly not Alanis' opening act, someone else gets that job. Tori and Alanis are complete equals on this tour. Erin === look i'm standing naked before you don't you want more than my sex i can scream as loud as your last one but i can't claim innocence ta _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:22:06 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Re: The rabbit theory. Yes, Rab (short for Rabbit) and Fox are mentioned in the UtP liner notes. > > In a message dated 6/12/1999 12:15:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Cindy2Love@aol.com writes: > > << Does anyone think that > > "Rabbit where'd you put the keys girl" > > might have to do with Alice in Wonderland? >> > > Tori said in a few interviews during the UTP era that Rabbit is a friend of > hers, it's a nickname of a real person that she knows. Daisy Melanie daislen@wctc.net ...she's in parties... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:13:28 +0300 From: "Mark Harbott" Subject: Cornflakes and all... Hi Just a quick question for anyone who cares to answer. I was in the CD shop today and I bought the Cornflake Girl single.......only because it has the following songs on it : Daisy Dead Petals, Honey and Sister Janet (all of which I had not heard before). When I looked previously on Amazon.com at this single......the only track that was listed there was Cornflake Girl......so it's a little confusing......I am in South Africa....this version though was an import.......but I just wondered form where as it seems that the US version doesn't have these b-sides on! Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:28:45 EDT From: Gud4AStorm@aol.com Subject: Re: rabbit, the golden gun and overanalyzing lyrics In a message dated 6/13/99 2:48:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Cindy2Love@aol.com writes: << You guys probably disagree, but I believe every single thing she writes means something and she would never put words together just because they sounded good together. Whether it be the pigs, or the nine inch nails, or golden guns or rabbits... It has to mean something right? May the faeries be with everyone, :-) *Cindy* >> I'd have to agree with you, Cindy. And actually, I think every single thing she writes has *lots* of meanings. Sometimes I'll be listening to one of her later works and find a clue of meaning for something she did way earlier - something I *thought* I already had figured out, but now there's a new bit of information added that can totally change my concept of a song. The complexity, both lyrically and musically, is what drew me to Tori and the ever-changing aspect is what keeps me here. Those that think there's no deep meaning to her work are welcome to enjoy it for what they get from it. As for me....the more I dig, the more I find. :-) Michelle (overanalyzer extraordinaire) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:19:02 EDT From: not persephone Subject: Re: peggy/piggy?? yea i second that. til i see offical torilyrics... i'm sticking with Peggy... personally i think it makes moresense.. but *Shrug* barb > > >How can you be certain that it is piggy?? I know I've heard it mentioned a >while ago that it was for sure but there aren't really any 'official' >lyrics >anywhere and I've never heard tori say anything about it. If I'm wrong, >please enlighten me. Thanks.... > > >lauren15@hotmail.com >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/7657 >evening stretched her cloak >********************** >King Solomons Mine's >Exit 75 >I'm still alive >I'm still alive >*********************** > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _____________________ she is always and never the same _____________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:38:52 +0100 From: "Beth Price" Subject: Meet & greets...tori's b-day..etc. Hi there, I'm going to the Atlanta, GA show and I was curious, if Tori still going to be having meet & greets? I would love to give her a b-day gift but i'm not sure if i'll even be able to give it to her if she isn't having a meet & greet. Any info on this? It would be very appreciated, and i'm sorry if this has previously been addressed. Kind regards, Beth. ~~~~~~~~¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬~~~~~~~~~ "like sisters....blankette girls...." "Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on." "I got Big Bird on the fishing line with a bit of a shout a bit of a shout a bit of an angry snout he's my favourite hooker of the whole bunch and I know about his only Bride and how the Russians die on the ice I got my rape hat on honey but i always could accessorise and i never cared too much for the money but I know right now that it's in God's hands... but I don't know who the Father is...." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tori Amos-*the* Faerie ~~~~~~~~~¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:35:35 -0700 From: Little Queen Subject: peggy piggy the song cooling was written for boys for pele. if you notice, there is a pig photographed several times in the lyric book. tori used the pig as symbolism representing "that which is not-kosher" (leno '96) i think perhaps THIS is the pig she is referring to in the lyric "piggy got a message for me from jesus" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >People, I hope you all know it's NOT Peggy, it's Piggy. >That's what I was thinking, because it seems like someone asked Tori, after >her one DDI performance of half of Cooling, what the lyrics she sang were, >and she said PIGGY. And I was thinking Piggy probably was a NIN >connection. But that's just me. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:46:52 EDT From: Heather980@aol.com Subject: Place to buy stuff I know of only one place in the Tulsa / Greencountry area that sells Tori boots and other Tori goodies. It's called Mowhawk Music. I don't know the address or anything (I've only been there once and it's quite a small shoppe) Just thought if anyone else lives in my area and didn't know~now you know heather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:12:43 GMT From: Terry Ferrell Subject: Virginia Stores Hey Guys...............I might have already posted this question, but I cannot remember if I posted it on this list or on the Tori-boot list, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any stores in Va that sell Tori boots or hard to find imports. If you know of any please e-mail me and let me know. Thanks in advance Terry _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:46:46 EDT From: Heather980@aol.com Subject: Place to buy stuff I know of only one place in the Tulsa / Greencountry area that sells Tori boots and other Tori goodies. It's called Mowhawk Music. I don't know the address or anything (I've only been there once and it's quite a small shoppe) Just thought if anyone else lives in my area and didn't know~now you know heather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:55:47 -0400 From: Super Chick Subject: more on Cornflake Girl I am currently reading Possessing the Secret of Joy, which has been discussed on the list in reference to Cornflake Girl...there is a single quote on one page before the novel begins that I think sums up CFG perfectly. "When the axe came into the forest, the trees said the handle is one of us". Isnt that great? Cheers, Natalie AOL Instant Message SoCenRain "give me life give me pain give me myself again" ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:56:40 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: YKTR In a message dated 6/13/1999 2:12:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Blu79@aol.com writes: << hey guys. I was listening to Y Kant Tori Read today and it got me wondering, did Tori write the lyrics to all the songs or did someone else or...? >> Tori wrote all of the lyrics even though it sometimes seems like someone else did :) love you parul :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:10:08 GMT From: Terry Ferrell Subject: Re: on the road I like the little tape that Tori has for the road. It is weird though, because PJ Harvey and Bjork are 2 of my favorite artists, under Tori of course. Terry >From: Ingeborg Karen Nymand >Reply-To: Ingeborg Karen Nymand >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: on the road >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 03:01:43 PDT > > >I just thought everyone talking about led Zeppelin when the leave >breaks.... and raspberry swirl connection. >In an old magazine I found a short article: >"On the road- my perfect drive-time tape by Tori Amos" >This is her list: >björk -human behaviour >Marvin Gaye -what's going on >Beck -new polution >Divine Comedy -something for the weekend >The Beatles -norwegian wood >Joni Mitchell -a case of you >Led Zeppelin -when the leave breaks >P.J. Harvey -50th queenie >Bartok -bluebeards castle >Nick CAve -Henry's dream > >and my point is...she likes the song...hmmm. >Ingeborg > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:51:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Annie McDaniel Subject: Re: love her madly..... i agree with you...tori and alanis together i don't understand it at all....i mean if i am not mistaken didn't tori say something bad in reference to alanis in an interview....i don't like alanis....i don't know why....she seems fake....out of all the women musicians it seems like to doesn't deserve to be playing music or even compared with the best of the women performers....i know i sound mean but oh well....i feel that if tori wanted to tour with someone big that she should join lilith fair...i mean the whole idea behind the lilith fair seem logical - --- kelly matton wrote: > > i agree very much with riley. i mean yeah sure some > of tori songs are great > to analyze but we have to draw a line somewhere in > the sand and realize that > not every single sentence or even song for that > matter has a meaning. tori > herself has even said that they don't and people > shouldn't be fussing over > them because she just wrote them because they > sounded good. > me well i've got a lot of pent up anger for this > whole alanis/tori tour. i > grew up in ottawa where alanis did, she was friends > with my step cousin and > was such a nasty bitch, sorry about that. i know > people change and i don't > hold it against her but i really can't stand her > music and i wish tori would > just tour by herself, without alanis. why is it that > all these amazing > people tour with alanis? veda hille did, liz phair > etc. sorry for all those > people who like alanis, i just had to say something > because its been > festering inside forever. > kelly > ************************************************ > Awake > Shake dreams from you hair > My pretty child, my sweet one > Choose the day and choose the sign of your day > The day's divinity > First thing you see > > ~Jim Morrison > ************************************************ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:20:35 GMT From: kelly matton Subject: the little faeries are buzzing...... wow cindy bit my head off there. about tori saying what she said. i don't have an exact quote but it was a t.v interview on much music and she said something to the effect that she doesen't mind people analyzing her songs but they shouldn't be spending all their time figuring out certain sentences and what not because they don't always mean something. yeah i agree all her songs mean something but not every single part of them, that is what i'm saying here. yes tori is a true artist but not every true artist has a exlpanation for everything they write. i find it interesting to see what people think certain things mean but we will never really now unless told by tori. i have no idea where i'm going with this but lets just enjoy tori, if you enjoy her by analyzing everything then sure and if you are like me and enjoy her poetry and her wonderful ear for great music then sure whatever. i'm a musician and all i can say is that some of my songs are meant to be only for me to know and others can have no real meaning at all. this e-mail has not made a lot of sense but i'm hot and need to jump in the lake. take care kelly ************************************************ Awake Shake dreams from you hair My pretty child, my sweet one Choose the day and choose the sign of your day The day's divinity First thing you see ~Jim Morrison ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:19:27 PDT From: "Ms.Envy" Subject: Pieces of Tori Mailing List? Anybody know how I can get on the Pieces of Tori Mailing List? *`~Envy~`* if my hearts soaking wet, boy your boots can leave a mess _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:51:12 -0500 From: Debbie Subject: tori and trent? Is it true that Tori and Trent dated? Someone told me a lot of BFP songs have to do with Trent..can someone confirm this? also..which song does trent do backup on? Thanks :) Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:30:28 EDT From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: Tori in summer 99 Teen People So, my brother got a teen people, and I was looking through it, and what do you know: Tori is in 2 sections! First is on page 45 with a picture of her singing in high school. "Was Tori Amos the only girl at Maryland's ? She was named Most Talented, Best All-Around, and Most Likely to Succeed. (Makes you wonder why her first band was called Y Kant Tori Read." (We all know the answer to that one;)) The second is on page 49 and it shows her Homecoming queen pic. it says "From 'Choirgirl' to Queen: Tori Amos was the 1980 Homecoming Queen at Richard Montgomery High School in Rockville, Md. She looks really young, and adorable in these pics;) Just wanted to let y'all know;) Toodles, Jewlya ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:26:25 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Meet & greets...tori's b-day..etc. At 02:38 PM 6/13/99 +0100, Beth Price wrote: > >Hi there, > I'm going to the Atlanta, GA show and I was curious, > if Tori still going to > be having meet & greets? I would love to give her a > b-day gift but i'm not > sure if i'll even be able to give it to her if she > isn't having a meet & > greet. > Any info on this? It would be very appreciated, and > i'm sorry if this has > previously been addressed. There is no information yet on whether or not there will be meet'n'greets - -- and there never has been any info on that before the tour actually began. We're all likely just going to have to wait and see if it happens at the Florida shows, and go from there. IMHO, it'll be next to impossible for Tori to pull it off. A co-headlining tour can be a logistical nightmare, what with two complete sets of equipment and all. You can still give your gift to Tori, however. Hand it to one of her bodyguards, and they -always- make sure things get to Tori. You mightn't be able to do it in person, but it'll still get to her. HTH. :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:24:06 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Cornflakes and all... At 01:13 PM 6/13/99 +0300, Mark Harbott wrote: >Just a quick question for anyone who cares to answer. I was in the CD shop >today and I bought the Cornflake Girl single.......only because it has the >following songs on it : Daisy Dead Petals, Honey and Sister Janet (all of >which I had not heard before). When I looked previously on Amazon.com at >this single......the only track that was listed there was Cornflake >Girl......so it's a little confusing......I am in South Africa....this >version though was an import.......but I just wondered form where as it >seems that the US version doesn't have these b-sides on! None of Tori's commercial singles comes with -only- the title track. Amazon.com likely just listed the title track -- call it laziness. :) There is only one US Cornflake Girl CD single {same for every other US CD single, except "Spark".} There are two UK CfG singles, but I can tell you right now that Amazon.com doesn't have the limited edition one. That one is pretty rare, and now goes in collecting circles for $50 or more. You're not going to find it at a retailer like Amazon. HTH. :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:18:19 EDT From: Twinkle018@aol.com Subject: 2 Million Cents and One More A few topics have hit close to home for me. It seems that a few of you have felt jerked around as a Tori fan. (I'm not even going to touch the whole "Toriphile"/"Ears With Feet"-thing yet.) Now, I am an AOL user, so I don't have much room to talk. In fact, I've never been in one of the Tori Amos chatrooms on AOL because I suspected that they would be like most other AOL rooms. It's one of those got-to-sift-through-all-of-the-dirty-laundry-before-you-can-get-to-your-favori te-pair-of-jeans-kind-of-thing. I see where everybody is coming from in this situation. I'm sure there are some great people trying to use those chat rooms such as those of you who were disappointed. It's a frusterating thing to deal w/ the maturity levels of some people. A Tori-fan-friendly room sounds great. I'd love to chat w/ you guys. The thing, though, is that there are people who know how some of us Tori fans can get. We are usually very passionate people. We all have some special reason for connecting ourselves to Tori and her music. There are others who know that and take advantage. They love to get a rise out of us simply becuase they can. The Plugged Preview Tour ticket buying was a disaster. We were told that the tickets for the Moore theater were sold at the Paramount. So, I got to the Paramount at 8 P.M. to spend the night for my tickets. That was my crazy choice. Then, the next morning we are being told the tickets are on sale at the Moore, then, the Paramount, then, the Moore again. We were first in line at the Paramount... about 30th in line at the Moore when they finally announced the tickets would be on sale at that venue. People were crying, yelling at eachother, jumping for joy if they had went to the Moore. You get the picture. Then, we find out that it's General Admission. What was the point? To see Tori. We were hoping to meet Tori again at the radio station when the concert came. The dj came out and said, "You Tori fans are freaks. I can't believe you are waiting here to meet her. She is not going to be here. Trust me. She isn't feeling well. She's not coming. Go away." Well, as you could imagine there were many people who wanted to leave half their minds in word form for him. We are people w/ very strong opinions. I don't mean that to imply that others don't also have strong opinions. But, as you can see... a topic of controversy will come up... and there are people like me depositing as many thoughts as they can on the subject just to show where they stand. For me, I've always hated conflict, but I seem to be knee-deep in it when I'm soaking up any conversation that sparks my interest. At that point, I just decided, "Hey, I'm so fortunate to have met her and talked to her so many times. I'm going to take what I have and cherish it." I used to be one of those people who would wait for hours to have a glimpse of Tori, snap a picture, or get in a quick word or two w/ her. I've finally decided that I'm too old and too exhausted. I'm frusterated w/ the way some of the fans can get w/ eachother. Some of us can be so catty... just ready to pull apart another Tori fan because they don't share the same opinion of a song interpretation or they don't own any Tori boots, or any b-sides, or they have never met Tori. Instead of just saying, "Hey, I'm really glad that you found Tori and her music, too. Nice to meet you." On the same hand, I'll admit, that I've met some really great people in concert lines, meet and greets, ticket lines, etc. They would have given me the shirt off of their back. They would go through great lengths to share her music w/ me... help me learn more... share their insights. In fact, the first time I met Tori, I didn't own any b-side stuff... no rarities... I was in a room w/ 8 other people, including my 18-mo.-old daughter at the time. Everyone there was so nice. We were all Tori fans who just happened to go to the radio station where some really great djs and staff gave us the opportunity to meet Tori. We weren't contest winners. We were just down-to-Earth people who were jumping up and down screaming, "I love you Myra Ellen." So, they let us stay. That day, I met some really great people, including Tori. I've kept in touch w/ them ever since. Tori came into the room immediately looking at my daughter and saying, "Who do we have here?" She walked straight to Ashley as Ash just lit up. It was neat because Tori wasn't just this star that waltzed in, signed a few autographs, and stared blankly as we talked to her. There was no "talking at" anyone... the entire room engaged in eachother's thoughts. That was when I first learned of what I call, the "Tori Wide-Eyed I'm Completely Listening Look." She has this way of looking deep into your soul through your eyes when you talk to her. That is a lesson that I've carried away from that day. Everyone has something great to share. Let them. I remember Tori talking about how she is w/ her friends and in social situations. She said that she is usually really quiet, just taking in everything that is going on. I'm eternally grateful that my first time meeting Tori was in that setting. I know that if I had first tried during the Plugged Tour, I'd give up completely. Wow! I'm talking way more than I meant to. Sorry everyone... bear w/ me. What I'm trying to say is... I'm really grateful for the 5 times I've talked to her. But, I too, have found myself to be what I consider a "Tori Hog". I think we all may have at one point or another, where you'd like to own every Tori thing that you can... talk to her at every meet and greet... stand out in some special way when you talk to Tori... have her write about you. I sometimes lose sight of what Tori admires most... me, just being who I am... not a Toridroid that lives, eats, and drinks Tori. I know she loves us as "Ears W/ Feet"... but, I think that she probably appreciates those of us who just share a little something and let her be on her way. That thought crossed my head the last time I talked to her. I was just talking and talking... and taking pictures... then, I remembered to shut up and listen to her... she was so sweet w/ me... but, she noticed my husband, quietly standing by, and she went out of her way to hold out her hand to him and say, "Hi. What's your name? How are you doing?" It took us all back. It was like... Jeez! We are taking and taking... she just seeked out the one who stood back and didn't want to take a thing at all. I'm losing sight of my point... I'm sorry everyone. I'm just saying that we all know that we are "Toriphiles", "Ears W/ Feet", or "Poor-but-I-Love-Her-Just-The-Same-Ears-With-Feet." We do what we want to do. It doesn't make us less of a "Tori Fan" or more of one. It's frusterating for all of us to be criticized by anyone, especially other Tori fans. But, that's what keeps us strong. We can take what we want or leave it. We all won't see things in the same light all the time because we come from different experiences. That's kind of what Tori mentions a lot... the whole idea of different minds sharing the same space and coming to some sort of understanding. And we... Toriphiles, EWF's, "PBILHJTSEWF's have enough problems w/o having to deal w/ the Tori bashers. I'm sure there are at least a handful of us that would like to smack those who talk the entire concert about how they've always loved Tori and won't shut up until "Cornflake Girl" comes on as they sing and jump through that one song because it's the only one they know then say... "I'm a Cornflake Girl." As those of us who "know" say... Yes, you are. Don't you listen to the song? TORI is a RAISIN GIRL!!!! Lol... but, I believe in peace. ha ha. Anyhow... I'm done ranting... lol. Oh, and for those that were defining Cornflake Girl and a Raisin Girl, I found a quote from Tori in the Images & Insights book for you: "I would like to think I'm a rasin girl, because in my mind they're more open-minded. Cornflake girls are totally self-centered, don't care about anything or anybody." Forgive me if someone already submitted that. Well, there is my 2 million cents. Thanks everyone for listening... promise... no more that long... I hope. Desiree P.S. ok... 2 million and one cents. This is really rubbing me wrong that I seem so judgemental about all of this. I really don't like to think that I put people into so many groups. I guess I can look at it as one really, big group being... People. Or billions of small groups... being individuals. K... done. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #174 *************************************