From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #171 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, June 11 1999 Volume 04 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sister janet and honey [Eisenberg ] dye your own easter eggs! (its a joke) [Eisenberg ] tori loves men [Eisenberg ] "Imperfect" CD -> SOLD! [Tha Shaigirl ] Re: Pigs [XXXPandora@aol.com] never was a cornflake girl (or never meant to be :\) [forsythia_in_the_sp] Over analyzing...i think not.... [H P ] [none] [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Kj=E6r_Lauritsen?= ] Re: More questions... [skh ] pigs and RS [Rayzengirl@aol.com] Re: peggy got a message for me.... [skh ] Re: AOL Tori chats [Rayzengirl@aol.com] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [Ken Tough ] Re:meaning [skh ] Re: spelling/horses, and a little something else... ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Re: your mail [Amy M Belden ] ****** STEVE CATON NEWS- read this if you are confused****** [Greenorb21] Re: Pigs [*ShaDy FeLiNE* ] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [Nadyne Mielke ] Cornflake Girl dance/improv ["Erin Martin" ] Re: peggy got a message for me.... ["Ville 'Miko' =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4kkin] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #168 ["C.F." ] Re: More questions... ["squidgy" ] Re: peggy got a message for me.... [XXXPandora@aol.com] Peggy and Jesus [beulah girl ] Re: peggy got a message for me.... [KAPS72@aol.com] Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? [ISpaceDogI@aol.com] Re: pigs and RS [Terry Ferrell ] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: your mail [XXXPandora@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:07:53 -0400 From: Eisenberg Subject: sister janet and honey i'm too lazy to look, but honey is (and possibly sister janet although i'm not sure) in the bee sides sheet music book. honey is not that hard to play, but if you thought winter was challenging then you might thing honey is too. tori is hard because of her intricate rhythms and demented key signatures. but you gotta love her right? well bye peeps - -- Love, Jodi - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Just a Little Confusion http://talk.to/jodequa - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 19:56:48 -0400 From: Eisenberg Subject: dye your own easter eggs! (its a joke) > >Ken Tough wrote: > >> everyday's my wedding day > >> though baby's still in his comatose state > >> I'll die my own Easter eggs > > >> A questionable one, (should be dye), but Easter is all about > >> dying (i.e as in die) and resurrection, and baby (or her egg) > >> is still in its comatose state, will it die? > I think i'd have to agree with that guy from the anti-tori amos website here.... this is definitely over analyzing tori's lyrics. IN MY OPINION. if you find meaning in it then i am jealous of you, but i just don't. i think it is pure imagery and symbolism that only have true significance to tori. just my opinion. but oh well - -- Love, Jodi - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Just a Little Confusion http://talk.to/jodequa - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:13:42 -0400 From: Eisenberg Subject: tori loves men Kelley, i agree with you about BfP, and i like the way you worded that with the "molting after the end of an important relationship" thats exactly how i always viewed it. the fact that tori is a woman and has issues with the male figures in her life (as well as the women...check out UtP if you need proof...hello "cornflake girL?") doesn't make her anti-man. its just the way she feels about specific people and forces in society today as well as in the past. i'm not christian, so i don't know the religious side of her music because i am very un educated about all religions except judaism....but i gather that she's got jesus issues as well. don't wanna sound stupid here, but i really don't know enough to make educated statements. i just odn't think tori is anti man to whoever said that. - -- Love, Jodi - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Just a Little Confusion http://talk.to/jodequa - -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:35:05 GMT From: Tha Shaigirl Subject: "Imperfect" CD -> SOLD! I'm terribly sorry for not posting this soon. I honestly didn't think I'd get THAT many replies! Anyhow... the two "imperfect" 10.25 disc #2 copies ARE TAKEN. Thanks for any and all responses! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:05:02 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Pigs In a message dated 6/9/1999 11:18:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, shiseidored21@Hotmail.com writes: << it's very interesting if you bring in the mythology, i don't know if she meant to. that would make her Pele, and change the meaning in a neat way. i like that idea >> I think she did - I always thought that pele could be her on some level. I like that idea too :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:42:48 -0700 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com Subject: never was a cornflake girl (or never meant to be :\) Hello Space Dogs, I was alerted that my post of the "Cornflake Girl" dance was indecent of some extent. So I would like to apologize for it. I meant no harm, I just have issues sometimes so you'll just have to ignore me when I get really fruity. Sorry guys and gals. Take care. Bi bis. Me, the Flea "I found the secret to life I'm okay when everthing is not okay." - - Upside Down Tori Amos ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 21:25:47 PDT From: H P Subject: Over analyzing...i think not.... Well Riley, I'm sorry but that is what people enjoy most about Tori's music. They like to analyze because i do believe that almost everything in Tori's music does have meaning...she is a VERY deep girl. And not only does it have meaning to her...but what Tori enjoys..and she has said this in interviews....is that people get a lot of different things out of her songs/quotes/pictures/dances..and they have special meaning to her..but she doesn't want that to take away something different that someone else gets from them. Don't disencourage analyization..its what makes the music meaningful and fun... just my $.02... Holly > >I dont understand why everyone has to try and decipher every single detail >of >every single tori song and picture. doesnt anyone think she might have >just >written a song or taken a pic just for fun? not everything has meaning >behind it, you know. > >--Riley-- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:26:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Kj=E6r_Lauritsen?= Subject: [none] Amy M Belden wrote about the uppercase letters in the Little Earthquakes bootlet. The following is copied from http://www.rmta.org/rmt-a/torifaq.html#VI : (Q) What is with the capitalized words in the LE lyrics booklet? (A) From an interview with Cindy Palmano, art director for LE: RDT : What about the capital letters? Cindy: Oh, I just picked out the ones I thought would look good in capital letters. (laughs) In fact, we did it over the telephone. I asked Tori to sing it so that it if somebody was trying to follow it, it would help them relate. Then I'm afraid I moved it around a bit, according to where it came typographically. Where there was an emphasis on the word, or a word that you really heard... it really does work. - - Thomas Lauritsen (work) (home) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:16:09 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: More questions... isn't lightningseed a group? ~~kelley KAPS72@aol.com wrote: > ... So, does anyone know what a "lightweight lightningseed" is? (from > "Caught a Lite Sneeze") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:28:22 EDT From: Rayzengirl@aol.com Subject: pigs and RS A lot of us know that "Alice in Wonderland" is one of Tori's fave books. And I was just thinking about the scene in RS when the girls turn into pigs. There is a part in "Alice" when a baby turns into a pig. I think that might be a connection because the beginning of the video (at least to me) has a very "Alice in Wonderland" feel to it. For example, when Tori is crawling through the hallway. It reminds me of that whole "eat me" drink me" part in "Alice" when she gets too big and then too small. Am i rambling now? Does anyone see a connection? Ah well...I'm not feeling too articulate today. forgive me. toodles, christine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:04:35 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... Freedom110@aol.com wrote: > So what she's trying to say is that, Jesus knew her voice wasen't good back > then, or did he say that to purposly make her work at it. Or just to ridicule > her? Guys.. help! > Am I over-analizing this? one never know, do one? ;) in the context of the song, i have taken the lines "peggy got a message for me, from jesus, and i've heard every word that you say"... to mean that tori is reflecting on her upbringing, and the kernel of truth in aspects of it (that she may not want to admit), in terms of knowing when it's time to let go of something and move on... it's like she's saying she's heard truth, but she's not decided to "move" on anything yet... i relate it to her use of 'jesus' in the line "me and jesus, few year back used to hang, and he siad, 'it's your choice babe' "... i see both of these jesus references about her having a choice, and not knowing, or having not decided what to do yet... peace be still ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:33:54 EDT From: Rayzengirl@aol.com Subject: Re: AOL Tori chats i was in the aol tori chat room last night and i was utterly horrified! first off, a lot of people in there were trashing tori. they were calling her a sell out and saying how all her new music sucks. then someone had the audacity to say that "tori should get raped again real soon because her material is getting bad." i was so stunned that i couldn't even reply, but then, in that room it wouldn't have done any good. i just want to know why, if these people think tori "sucks" so much, why do they go in there in the first place. it is a TORI chat room, albeit the subjects of discussion may stray from time to time. but i just had to get that off my chest. toodles, christine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:50:50 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) Apparently Amy M Belden wrote: >Ken Tough wrote: >>I think it's possible to go a bit far in the very literal study >>of her lyrics, since I don't think Tori is always 100% responsible >>for the spelling/layout/writing down of her lyrics. (I can't say >>anything about that for certain, but for example the UPPERCASE words >>in Little Earthquakes aren't ANYTHING special, but just words picked >>out by her layout artist.) Some strangities are probably just errors. >I was singling out the CAPITALIZED words in the Little Earthquakes >booklet, and I think there are some correlations between them. For >example: (please note: these are only my opinions, not necessarily Tori's >intentions) Interesting view on the relations between the words, Amy. It was wrong for me to write those WORDS aren't anything SPECIAL. I only meant that it (apparently) wasn't Tori who chose the words to emphasise, but someone else. As you point out, that other person may have had reasons other than aesthetics for choosing the words to emphasise. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:29:59 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re:meaning Surreal00@aol.com wrote: > I dont understand why everyone has to try and decipher every single detail of > every single tori song and picture. doesnt anyone think she might have just > written a song or taken a pic just for fun? not everything has meaning > behind it, you know. while i agree that some things are not laden with deep infrastructure... everything has meaning... or it would not be created... even if something is stream-of-conscious and frivolous, therein lies its meaning and purpose... meaning is subjective to the creator and the audience... nonetheless, it's there. be well ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:54:22 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Re: spelling/horses, and a little something else... The day of his death, > good friday (good? hrmmm...christians have it a little backwards) is the only > day of "death" celebration, or maybe mourning. > > ~* jo§h > In defense of us backwards christians, its called Good Friday because Christ died for us and for all the shitty-ness of the human race by his own choice. Personally, that sounds like a "good" thing to me. Daisy Melanie daislen@wctc.net ...she's in parties... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy M Belden Subject: Re: your mail Wow! That's interesting that it was done more from the listener's perspective rather than the creator's! I am somewhat surprised that Tori was okay with allowing Cindy to pick the "essential" words for her. Amy, the choirgirl On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, [iso-8859-1] Thomas Kjær Lauritsen wrote: > Amy M Belden wrote about the uppercase letters in > the Little Earthquakes bootlet. The following is copied from > http://www.rmta.org/rmt-a/torifaq.html#VI : > > (Q) What is with the capitalized words in the LE lyrics booklet? > (A) From an interview with Cindy Palmano, art director for LE: > RDT : What about the capital letters? > Cindy: Oh, I just picked out the ones I thought would look good in > capital letters. (laughs) In fact, we did it over the telephone. I asked > Tori to sing it so that it if somebody was trying to follow it, it would > help them relate. Then I'm afraid I moved it around a bit, according to > where it came typographically. Where there was an emphasis on the word, or a > word that you really heard... it really does work. > > > - Thomas Lauritsen > (work) > (home) > > - -- Amy M Belden ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu BlackDove21@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:14:52 EDT From: Greenorb21@aol.com Subject: ****** STEVE CATON NEWS- read this if you are confused****** BINGE NEWS- STEVE CATON For those of you who do not get the " RDTRN" newsletter , I will try to say this again. This is old news to those of you who get the digest , so bear with me. Recently, I sent a post to several key mailing lists regarding Steve Caton's new CD with his band " Binge". I said that it was coming out and all those who wanted more info could E-mail me . I thought that placing a short post would be the most considerate thing to do, since many of you may not, in fact, be interested in Caton's music . Now I realize the implications that the post might have given off , and I'd really like to clarify my position. I feel awful about it . I am not selling Caton's CD , nor am I a fan trying to give out scoops which were not approved by the band . Binge will have a single available through the internet , and I was asked to organize any Tori fans who may be curious so that we can all get our hands on it without any trouble . When you send me an E-mail, I add your name to a list . Then, I send out a mass E-mail to all those on my list directing you to the site the CD will be sold on. I will also direct you to sites which will feature more information on the band . That's all . No selling, no shady gossip you need to question .I am not that kind of girl ; )! I offered to do this because I love the CD , I believe it is worth hearing, and I had the time to help promote it. It sounds.....incredible . Everyone who hears it adores it , that is the absolute truth . I know some of you may know Caton , or may have met him at a show and are thinking :" who is this girl, and why is she acting like she's some inside source? " Haha! I'm not! It has nothing to do with that at all - lots of people know about Binge. I just asked if I could push the CD more agressively , and I got my wish. I'm the "listmaker" .Other wonderful Toriphiles are helping spread the word , as well . But when we divided the work up, I took this assignment . I'm so sorry some of you may have gotten the wrong impression .I didn't mean to sound cryptic at all. . Anyone reading this for the first time may still drop me a line at Greenorb21@aol.com for an update .Thanks so much for your time. - - Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:22:15 PDT From: *ShaDy FeLiNE* Subject: Re: Pigs Hello Boys and girls! Doesnt anyone remember their mythology?? I didn't say this before because I figured one of you smart people would bring it up (I'm a bit of a lurker..) but I guess the summertime has confused us all! Forgive me if this isn't 100% correct, it's been a while, but it's pretty much it.. In the Oddyssey by Homer, Oddysseus and his men travel to an island.. This island belongs to the witch Circe (Cir-ceee) and she makes nicey-nice with the men, even though she is evil. She invites them all in for dinner, and they are all under the influence of her feminine charms, so they go. Save Odysseus, who was staying with the ship because he had been warned about her- he warned the others too but only one of them listened-, and the one that listened. Circe fed them dinner and they turned into pigs and were running around all over the dining room, and the guy who didn't eat saw what she had done and ran to Oddysseus, who then got a remedy from Hermes, and they were off on another adventure. THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is quite obviously the theme for the pigs part in the Raspberry Swirl video... Tori and the little boy don't eat, if you'll notice, because if they did they would be turned into pigs too! I brought in the mythology, bring on the criticism.. pain and anguish, Amy >From: carmen riojas >Reply-To: carmen riojas >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Pigs >Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:36:26 PDT > > >i'm not sure about the RS vid, i always took it to just be a fun something, >it doesn't seem to fit w/ the song. the BFP covor, she said she was >"nursing >shame", that's what it symbolized. it's very interesting if you bring in >the >mythology, i don't know if she meant to. that would make her Pele, and >change the meaning in a neat way. i like that idea > >> > :>) Does anyone know the significance of the pigs? : BFP cover and >>picture >> > in booklet, and also "Raspberry Swirl" video. >> > >> > - Kim >> > "...and maybe together >> > we'll make mother well..." >> >>I read something about Pele lately which may explain the >>tori-suckling-a-pig-picture. The book said that Pele was (or still is) in >>love >>with Kamapuaa, the god of the pigs. >> >>hth >> >>anna >> >>'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'* >>it never leaves my mind >>the last words she said >>"if I don`t find it this time, >>then I`m better off dead" p.j. harvey >> >>'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'**'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*' > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:05:34 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) At 09:24 PM 6/8/1999 -0700, Amy M Belden wrote: >Ken, I really liked all of your Tori Spelling puns and such. Those were >really interesting to read. However, I'm not quite sure I agree with this >statement. >Ken wrote: >>I think it's possible to go a bit far in the very literal study >>of her lyrics, since I don't think Tori is always 100% responsible >>for the spelling/layout/writing down of her lyrics. (I can't say >>anything about that for certain, but for example the UPPERCASE words >>in Little Earthquakes aren't ANYTHING special, but just words picked >>out by her layout artist.) Some strangities are probably just errors. >I was singling out the CAPITALIZED words in the Little Earthquakes >booklet, and I think there are some correlations between them. For >example: (please note: these are only my opinions, not necessarily Tori's >intentions) [removed the examples] Tori has said in interviews, when asked about the capitalization in LE, that it was the choice of Cindy Palamino, the artist who designed the liner notes. Here's the relevant portion of the Tori FAQ which answers this question: (Q) What is with the capitalized words in the LE lyrics booklet? (A) From an interview with Cindy Palmano, art director for LE: RDT : What about the capital letters? Cindy: Oh, I just picked out the ones I thought would look good in capital letters. (laughs) In fact, we did it over the telephone. I asked Tori to sing it so that it if somebody was trying to follow it, it would help them relate. Then I'm afraid I moved it around a bit, according to where it came typographically. Where there was an emphasis on the word, or a word that you really heard... it really does work. The entire Tori FAQ {which is in the process of being updated} is available at . HTH. :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:46:38 -0400 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: Cornflake Girl dance/improv Well, since she did the dance before she was even pregnant, I don't equate that with the miscarriage. But in the RAINN video, during the improv at the end of CG, she says something like "oh my baby oh my darlin yes i know we're dying" and I think that's pretty clear. Possibly a precursor to Iieee? Somebody else once commented that she once said at the end of CG "I can be so cruel, I don't know why" or something along those lines. Just some food for thought there. Hugs, Erin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:40:32 +0300 From: "Ville 'Miko' =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4kkinen?=" Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... Freedom110@aol.com wrote: > This is so interesting because if this is what she meant in the song, then > technically that boy that passed the note is Jesus (Not in a literal sense, > but who knows?!) (''Peggy got a message for me, from Jesus'') And that she > knows everything that she has said... Or maybe the boy's name was actually Jesus? As I understand it, it's not exactly rare. Just my .02 :) -Miko ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:55:07 EDT From: "C.F." Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #168 Here Here, Riley.... I am totally with you on this one. Sometimes, it's interesting to analyze things, but I agree, not EVERYTHING has to have a deeper meaning. Sometimes, what's there on the surface is what it's about, and that's the end of it. Think of how boring it would get being so deep all the time that every single action, thought, and word were thought out and thought out. There would be absolutely no spontaneity whatsoever, and that is THE most boring you can get. There is something to be said for simple.... Just my take on it... Cheerios! Carly >From: Surreal00@aol.com >Reply-To: Surreal00@aol.com >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #168 >Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:32:21 EDT > > >In a message dated 99-06-09 01:22:13 EDT, you write: > ><< Tom xxxxx wrote: > > > Here is my take on the pig Tori suckles. > > > > I think, given the anti-man tone of BfP, that she is saying something >like > > "Well, so many of the men I've taken to my breast have been pigs, why > > shouldn't I take a real pig there as well." Now, I"ve never heard Tori >say > > it, but that's what occurred to me. And, men are pigs. I should know: >I am > > one and I date them. As for the pigs in the RS video, I haven't seen it >so >I > > have no comment. >> > >I dont understand why everyone has to try and decipher every single detail >of >every single tori song and picture. doesnt anyone think she might have >just >written a song or taken a pic just for fun? not everything has meaning >behind it, you know. > >--Riley-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:57:14 +0100 From: "squidgy" Subject: Re: More questions... Yup, "The Lightning Seed's" are a Liverpudlian group, however my guess is Tori was'nt referring to them, Squidgy - ---------- >From: skh >To: precious-things >Subject: Re: More questions... >Date: Thu, Jun 10, 1999, 14:16 > > >isn't lightningseed a group? > >~~kelley > >KAPS72@aol.com wrote: > >> ... So, does anyone know what a "lightweight lightningseed" is? (from >> "Caught a Lite Sneeze") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:55:12 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... In a message dated 6/10/1999 8:35:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, killerb@sicom.fi writes: << Or maybe the boy's name was actually Jesus? As I understand it, it's not exactly rare. >> good point :) my boyfriend's middle name is jesus. But with Tori, I doubt she would put Jesus in any song without meaning the jesus :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:58:22 PDT From: beulah girl Subject: Peggy and Jesus If you look in the BfP liner notes it says "Clear head & on line: Peggy Beach " and "Carpenter/Drinker and sometime Jesus: Iain Cambell". "Peggy got a message to me from Jesus and I heard every word that you have said " Cooling was conceived during the DDI tour. Something to think about. Emma Freedom110@aol.com wrote: > This is so interesting because if this is what she meant in the song, then > technically that boy that passed the note is Jesus (Not in a literal sense, > but who knows?!) (''Peggy got a message for me, from Jesus'') And that she > knows everything that she has said... Or maybe the boy's name was actually Jesus? As I understand it, it's not exactly rare. Just my .02 :) -Miko _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:54:01 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... In a message dated 6/9/99 7:17:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Freedom110@aol.com writes: << I have sort of a good voice, but I can't reach certain high notes, and I get SO frustrated, that I end up squeeling as loud as I can because I want it to be at that octive. And I always think... ''No, I can't be a singer, I wasen't born with it, you can't make something that isin't there" >> Gus, Don't give up on yourself. You sound like you really want to be a singer, especially if it's the first thing you think about when you wake up. You've got to keep pursuing your dreams. You will never feel complete otherwise. When I was in middle and high school I played the violin with the school orchestra's. I even joined a few extra string groups. Then I suddenly dropped out when I was a sophomore. I don't quite know why I did. And now I'm married with child and, still years later, think about playing my violin everyday. I've tried taking lessons but due to lack of space, time and $, I cannot at the moment. It's an incredible void which I intend to fill, especially now that my little one is growing. Don't, don't give up! :>) - -Kim "...she was a January Girl she never let on how insane it was..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:07:32 EDT From: ISpaceDogI@aol.com Subject: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to know. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:57:22 GMT From: Terry Ferrell Subject: Re: pigs and RS I totally agree about the Raspberry Swirl video having connections with Alice in Wonderland. It is like the little boy is the white rabbit that Alice chases. The only thing that confuses me is the man in the video, does anyone have any ideas has to the importance or the role of the man that is in the dance room scenes? Hanging with the rasin girls, Terry >From: Rayzengirl@aol.com >Reply-To: Rayzengirl@aol.com >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: pigs and RS >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:28:22 EDT > > >A lot of us know that "Alice in Wonderland" is one of Tori's fave books. >And >I was just thinking about the scene in RS when the girls turn into pigs. >There is a part in "Alice" when a baby turns into a pig. I think that >might >be a connection because the beginning of the video (at least to me) has a >very "Alice in Wonderland" feel to it. For example, when Tori is crawling >through the hallway. It reminds me of that whole "eat me" drink me" part >in >"Alice" when she gets too big and then too small. Am i rambling now? Does >anyone see a connection? Ah well...I'm not feeling too articulate today. >forgive me. > >toodles, >christine _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:19:22 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) In a message dated 6/9/99 7:17:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu writes: << Well, as I say, those are just kind of how I imagine those words to relate to one another. I do think that there is some kind of correlation between all the CAP words in each song, although it may not be exactly the way I have described it. Just my 2 CENTS. :) >> Amy, I loved this! All the words and interpretations. They were great! - -Kim "...she was a January Girl..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:06:24 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: your mail In a message dated 6/10/1999 8:35:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu writes: << I am somewhat surprised that Tori was okay with allowing Cindy to pick the "essential" words for her. >> Well Cindy and Tori have worked together alot so I'm sure Tori trusts her. Cindy was doing the design for the CD booklet and sometimes you just have to let the artist take over. For example, I don't know if many of you realize that Tori has a stylist, all of those awesome clothes we see her wearing in videos, photos etc. (anywhere she is expected to be seen) are chosen by a stylist. By the way she has always had the same one, according to the video collection. Of course Tori approves everything, including the words. wow I would love to be her stylist or art director ... anyone in the know, if she needs one - I'm available!!! :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #171 *************************************