From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #167 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, June 8 1999 Volume 04 : Number 167 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ohh don't look at me like I'm stupid, now! [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: Tori on free MTV anti-violence cd ["Mr Zebra" ] Horses (was Re: Pigs) [Gud4AStorm@aol.com] Re: Tori videos [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: Toriphile/Ears with Feet [VuduGurrrl@aol.com] More AOL Tori Amos chatroom nonsense [Wake UpNeo ] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [Ken Tough ] Re: Tori on free MTV anti-violence cd [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: Fw: Pigs, Flutterby, and Horses (was Re: Pigs) [becky ] Re: Pigs [Talulagrl1@aol.com] Re: ermmmmm ["Megasusİ" ] trent [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) ["Susan Stewart" ] Re: Rabbit book [VuduGurrrl@aol.com] Re: Tori - Led Zeppelin comparison [Amy M Belden ] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) ["Vicki Siolos" ] Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: Tori videos [Jennifer Lynn Roth ] Shirts ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Tori List for East Coast Fans! [Fireheart ] Re: Sister Named Desire [Daisy Dead Petals ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:22:20 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Ohh don't look at me like I'm stupid, now! In a message dated 6/7/1999 7:26:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, glyttergrrl@hotmail.com writes: << >>I wasn't trying to express "better than", just that the folks Tori refers >>to as "Ears with Feet" are also the folks she considers her "core fans" >>(from a seperate interview)>> ok, great....so now Ears with Feet are the select few "core" fans who have been around since the beginning of time and get to travel to every show? >> Exactly ... every single person on this list and every single person that would even consider buying one of those shirts is a core fan!!! Traveling to every show makes you no better than someone else. Why do you think it does?? I have met Tori twice but I don't think that I'm better than anyone else because of that. I have seen Tori 8 times in concert but I am not better than someone who has never seen her in concert. I am sure that Tori Amos appreciates all of us who don't devote our lives to her, I'm sure she even respects us more for that. For having our own lives, dreams and ambitions instead of preying off of someone elses. Okay I'm going to shut up now :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:09:11 -0500 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Re: Tori on free MTV anti-violence cd > "I believe in peace BITCH" - Tori Amos Yeah, I got mine too. MaaG is the same as album. Not live. Personally, I think she should have put a Plugged version of Waitress on this CD. It would fit so much better. LOL. "I want to kill...BUT I believe in peace..." Much more fun idea of anti-violence than MaaG. But any Tori is good Tori, so. I won't complain. Matthew express yourself. don't repress yourself. ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah - got Sarah? http://www.fumblers.org/SouthSideFumblas Cult of E Membership #138 FuCS/DA exfe96 a+++ Ifte lms/txus r++ ps+++ bs t-- C++ w++ p1 LF+/*** N++ cd80+ pr+ g- S* x Fa m+ b!/- fc- E rl!@+++ s! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:47:12 EDT From: Gud4AStorm@aol.com Subject: Horses (was Re: Pigs) In a message dated 6/7/99 10:07:18 PM Central Daylight Time, guildy@worldnet.att.net writes: << And lastly, if you've made it this far.... could someone (or many of you) tell what Horses is about, I really haven't a clue, but its one of my favs to listen to live. Be Well Erika >> Okay, I'll give it a shot. Bear in mind, this is *my* interpretation, and I'm fairly comfortable with it. But I'm always open to others ideas. I got me some Horses to ride on to ride on they say that your demons can't go there ***First of all, horses often symbolize a need for freedom or escape. So when she says "I got me some horses to ride on", I think she's trying to get free of society's and her family's expectations of what she should be. A good Christian wife, mother, etc..... as long as your army keeps perfectly still *** I think this means she's having some success with getting free, as long as the preconceptions of her upbringing/what everyone thinks she's supposed to be, keep still and don't try to pull her back into that mold. and maybe I'll find me a sailor a tailor and maybe together we'll make mother well *** To me, this means that perhaps she'll find a nice, normal Christian boy and settle down, have 2.4 children and raise them to be Christian. This would make mother very happy. you showed me the meadow and Milkwood and Silkwood *** I think this is a metaphor for sexuality. Milkwood - masculine. Silkwood - feminine. The meadow - the place of intimacy and pleasure. and you would if I would but you never would *** This line, perhaps, deals with commitment. He would, if she would....but she wouldn't, so he never did. so I chased down your posies your pansies in my hosies then opened my hands and they were empty then *** I think this means she tried to go that way. She tried to follow what she *should* do, but it was empty for her. off with Superfly sniffing a Sharpie pen honey it's Bill and Ben off with Superfly counting your bees oh me honey like one two three the camera is rolling it's easy like one two three *** I think this is a reference to being away on tour (cameras rolling, and the Sharpie pen). It's easier to be her own person when she's away from her roots - those people/places that draw her back into the mold. and if there is a way to find you I will find you but you will find me if Neil makes me a tree an afro a pharaoh *** I think this is a reference to the vast array of religions other than Christianity. She's perhaps saying, that once she finds her own path, she'll try to find a way to work this "sailor/tailor" into her life. Then again, if she becomes something different, perhaps he won't recognize her or want to be a part of her life (will you find me if Neil makes me a tree). But she has to be comfortable with her own spirituality first. I can't go you said so *** So, she's said she has to find her own path. Now he's telling her she can't go. She has to stay and be what he wants her to be. and threads that are golden don't break easily *** There's that "gold" reference again. So I think this is simply saying that the ties of her Christian upbringing aren't so easy to break. Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:19:40 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori videos I agree with you about the inner child and the children in her videos. One of my favorites is in "Caught A Lite Sneeze" when she's sitting in the chair and turns into a little girl. I also love "Hey Jupiter" with the little girl who pulls her out of the burning building and then is bouncing on the car seat next to her as she's crying. That is SO symbolic and I absolutely love it and can relate. - -Kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:13:06 EDT From: VuduGurrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Toriphile/Ears with Feet wkeupneo@hotmail.com writes: << Once, someone asked her about her 'fans' and she said "I don't think of them as 'fans', I think of them as more like ears with feet". In other words, people who listen to her and love the music. She explained later that the word 'fans' was to her, kind of demeaning, cos some refer to fans in a pejorative manner (my words; cos i can't remember that exact quote). This story is on the Dent somewhere i think; (the two little girls and their dad interviewed Tori) anyone have the URL for the page it's on ? It was toward the end of DDI i think ? >> I have a wav file of Tori at the end of the DDI tour talking about her Ears With Feet. It's a cute wav and very touching! If anyone is interested in this wav, please e-mail me at VuduGurrrl@aol.com and I will send it to you. <3 Steph :o) Founder of the Chunky Flowage mailing list. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/wenno/chunkymenu.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 07:37:37 GMT From: Wake UpNeo Subject: More AOL Tori Amos chatroom nonsense joanne said: " I once went into some Tori AOL chat room a few days before the sneak preview club tour because I was all excited and some guy came in and told us that Tori had been in a car accident ... we all believed him for a few minutes ... some girl was in tears and then eventually after asking him a bunch of questions - like where was she etc.  and when he kept answering them all wrong we figured out what he was doing.  Then once we started ignoring him, he started saying THIS IS TORI AMOS!! and other insane stuff like he was the one who raped her etc...  It was really horrible. " Oh man, this is really awful. Snerts (AOL chatroom term for extremely obnoxious maybe emotionally-challenged person) often go into chatrooms of all types and claim that some famous person has just been killed. There are some things that should not be joked about at ALL. I mean, i was in AOL movie chat, and because of snerts in the past, when someone said that Dana Plato had just died, i didn't believe him ! I kind of ignored it. (made all the more regretful later, by the fact that i actually met her briefly some years back, and she was just sweet as hell !) That is a really, really sad consequence of people crying 'wolf'. And the other stuff this (Tori-chat) person said... beyond pathetic. Kinda scary. I think people out in chatland need to start giving their Notify AOL buttons a workout ;o) Another time in Tori Amos AOL chat, (it's under Arts and Entertainment under Member-Made Rooms, for the person who asked where), someone earlier had come in and claimed to be Eric Rosse. (again, against AOL TOS !) (to impersonate someone, anyone, else) I dunno what the person said, (i was only there observing the oh-wasn't-that-funny aftermath) but it WASN'T Eric Rosse needless to say. The 'regulars' of the room were all laughing about it, and they named the real name of the person who'd done it. So i assume it was just another day full of entertainment in Tori AOL chat. =( I dunno why it's like that in there (it's kinda the same on Tori Amos IRC chat too, but, since IRC rooms are kinda the property of whoever makes them, and so far as i know there is no TOS, it's kind of every chatter for themselves there) but i do think there needs to be a regularly made (you have to make a member chatroom daily in AOL) Tori chat on AOL that is **friendly** to all (except 'snerts'). Where things of some depth, as well as lighter topics, could be discussed in peace. And it needs to be a name we all know about, and that is there on a regular basis. Anyone, or group of anyones, got an idea ? =) Two more cents, K. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:42 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) Apparently Super Chick wrote: >on the list I have noticed people talking about how Tori erratically >spells some of the words in her lyrics...I myself havent particularly >noticed this, so could some kind and golden soul perhaps give me some >examples of this? Thanks in advance! I think it's possible to go a bit far in the very literal study of her lyrics, since I don't think Tori is always 100% responsible for the spelling/layout/writing down of her lyrics. (I can't say anything about that for certain, but for example the UPPERCASE words in Little Earthquakes aren't ANYTHING special, but just words picked out by her layout artist.) Some strangities are probably just errors. Still, we do know that she does love good wordplay, and chooses many words and special spellings in a way that's similar to some poets like e.e. cummings, either for meaning, puns, or the way they look on paper. Here's a quick peruse through the album stuff. There isn't much in the way of "The Scriptures" outside of the albums, since next to none of the B-sides have written lyrics... mustn't read anything into any listener's interesting choices of spelling: Pandora Line me up in single file with all your grievances Stare but I can taste you're still alive below the waste A very clever pun on "below the waist", as opposed to below all the rubble, the rubbish, the waste. Father Lucifer everyday's my wedding day though baby's still in his comatose state I'll die my own Easter eggs A questionable one, (should be dye), but Easter is all about dying (i.e as in die) and resurrection, and baby (or her egg) is still in its comatose state, will it die? Mr. Zebra furry mussels marching on she think's she's Kaiser Wilheim A great play on words, mr. zebra's furry muscles, or that other furry mussel alluding to female genitalia. Little Amsterdam girl you got to know these days which side your[sic] on Seems like a spelling mistake. Not much to read into that. Not the Red Baron Not the Red Baron Not Charlie Brown think I got the message figured another pilot down and are their[sic] devils with halos in beautiful capes taking them into the flames Could be a spelling mistake, "are there devils with halos" as a rhetorical question, or maybe it's meant as "do their devils have halos". Probably a mistake. Doughnut Song blood can be pertty like a delicate man copper to steel to a hinge that is faltered that let's you in let's you in let's you in Pertty is just some southern thing, not much to say. As for "let's you in", (should be "lets you in"), also seems a mistake since "let us you in" doesn't make a lot of sense, but could if you really stared at it and were desperate. Bells for Her and now I speak to you are you in there you have her face and her eyes but you are not her and we go at each other like blank ettes who can't find their thread and their bare can't stop loving can't stop what is on its way The "blankets" - "blank ettes" play on words came to Tori after recording the song (which sort of flowed in one, and she was writing the lyrics down after). It's one of the things that really makes the song, they're blanket friends, blankette whatever that means... they are female blanks, perhaps something is missing for them, there's some form to be made of them. What about the "their thread and their bare" (not "they're bare") so using bare as a noun. What does that mean, their nakedness, uncovered bare-ness? - ------------------ Hey, just noticed the massive connection between Past The Mission and Twinkle. They're part of the same song. Never noticed that before. Have to come back to that some time. - ------------------ The Wrong Band and there's something believin in her voice again said there's something believin instead of just leavin Interesting word play between "believe" and "leave", highlighted by her use of spelling. Cornflake Girl She knows what's going on seems we got a cheaper feel now all the sweeteaze are gone Normally would be "sweeties". Perhaps a nice play between "sweety" (candy, or a term of endearment) and "tease". How's that for a starter, anyway? - -- Ken Tough Cornwall & London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:19:29 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori on free MTV anti-violence cd In a message dated 99-06-06 12:53:37 EDT, nadyne@rmta.org writes: << I called them at their toll-free number and ordered one yesterday, and was told that it would be shipped in 3-4 weeks. I -assume- this means that they still have them left. /nad >> I called 6-8 weeks ago, and have yet to receive my cd. ::raises an eyebrow:: hrmmmm.... ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:57:34 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) In a message dated 99-06-07 19:25:46 EDT, wkeupneo@hotmail.com writes: << But when i mentioned this in the Tori Amos AOL chat guess what they said ? "Tori sucks". Mm, okay. >> This is not always what they think. They just say that because when you go in there, a lot of the time there are people who genuinely hate tori and are just trying to pick a fight, which is in it's own way harassing, against AOLTOS. It's not that they hate tori at all, it's just use of humor and trying to get the people who do come in looking to pick a fight to get over themselves nd get them out of there. I have spent a lot of time in that room not only discussing tori but defending her and her views, and trying to make them known to those who are so ignorant that they have to come pick a fight. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:09:10 -0400 From: becky Subject: Re: Fw: Pigs, Flutterby, and Horses (was Re: Pigs) Hi. Number one: John's observations were just that . . . observations. Number two: Tori has mentioned (check out J'ason's website, or don't, that's fine with me) that in writing Boys for Pele she was discovering that most of her life she was attracted to men's fire and didn't look for her own. Caught a Lite Sneeze best captures that. There were a lot of men hanging around her after her break-up with Eric, Trent Reznor included, that were attracted to what she had to offer, but, it eventually just didn't work out. I believe that all the speculations on the suckling pig are correct. Tori has often changed her story about songs and other such things quite a bit. She always tends to have several meanings to one thing. That is what makes Tori so fascinating. The listeners need to understand her images and songs with as many different contexts as possible to understand the whole thing. It could also represent Trent. becky > >> John said: > > Okay, I think the piggy she's suckling is at > > least partially statement about Trent Reznor, and a > > link to their music. Trent refers to himself as a pig > > in his music, he calls himself by that name, and by > > having a picture of a piglet, this context places > > Trent Reznor in the arms of a nurturing Tori, > > >This really doesn't have anything to do with pigs, but could someone explain >to me the obsessive need of some Tori fans to link everything with Trent >Reznor. Ok, maybe not everything but it seems that many times when someone >offers up an interoperation of something he's mentioned. I really do not >understand this need to make these connections. I mean besides his backing >vocals on PTM what else is there?? Please I am open to any reason, I >probably won't understand it, but explanations are welcome. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:06:12 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: exclusionary Tori fans In a message dated 99-06-06 12:52:17 EDT, scarletspectrum@juno.com writes: << Lord, dont I know that this is true. Are there any AOL users on the list who go into the Tori Amos chat, only to be repeatedly snubbed by the people in there? They are never discussing Tori, and they always use each others' real names, which is very rude in a public chat room. If they want to have a forum with their friends, they can go into a private room...but some of us want to talk Tori, and we dont appreciate being run out of there. Bleh, had to get that out of my system. >> Ummm, I hate to say that I am (more used to be, cause I don't get online much) one of these tori-chat people. The reason that we're never discussing tori and using our real names is because we are all friends and like to know what is going on in each others lives. I agree with you that perhaps it would be more convenient for other people if we moved to another chat, but as I told someone once, there's only so much you can discuss about tori before you get repetition, and that the room is necessarily only about tori, but mroe a celebration of people with a common interest who gather together and talk about their lives. It's almost like this list. not EVERYTHING is about tori, and we all use our real names, or at least something different than our screen names/email addresses. There are points when you have to break away from the "name of the chat" and talk with people, about stuff, that isn't just tori. I hope this kind of clears this up, even though my thought process isn't top-notch right now. I think that if you spend time in there, and get to know the PEOPLE, you won't have such a problem with not only discussing tori. I thought the same way the first couple times I visited there, and was always asking "isn't this supposed to be about tori?" But when you just kind of observe, you see that no, it's not ALWAYS. And then you might meet some of the most fantastic people in the world, one who would be my boyfriend if he didn't live in New Mexico. so, anyways...just wanted to clear the air. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:11:04 -0500 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Fw: attention: TORI fans and nice people I got this on FTE today. Let's do it. > Hi, > This is for all the Tori fans and anyone who wants o do a good deed. On > a TORI list I am on someomne wrote about invaded MTV's TRL, so on JUNE 9 > th, Wednesday, vote for: TORI AMOS : "RASPBERRY SWIRL" on MTV.com, there > is a list to choose from but since, it's not a 'played' video, you'll > have to type in the box marked 'other' or something like that! BEFORE > 3:00!!! It worked for NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK, in MAY so it will work with > TORI! > thanks, > -joe > > ps. if you have any questions don't ask me because I didn't start this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:06:40 EDT From: Talulagrl1@aol.com Subject: Re: Pigs << I do think she is like obsessed (in a good, cutie innocent) way with trent. >> why do you think that? i have always been curious about their relationship i thought she was over him completely and that she even kind of loathed him ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:00:53 -0700 From: "Megasusİ" Subject: Re: ermmmmm Lauren DePhillips wrote: > What am I to do if I'm an EWF who likes purple shirts??? > ARGGGGGG............................................. LOL! I feel the same way.. I like the purple better, but I prefer the EWF design.. so like.. buy both shirts.. and then invent a machine that sucks the dye out of shirts and switches them... LOL :D I'm in a weird mood.. but hey... I like the EWF shirt whether it's green, purple, black, yellow or whatever... :) *goes off into a corner and sings.. "I've got a lime green pinto...."* <--- Don't ask.. inside joke.. :)(: - -- ^_~Megasus~_^ http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ ICQ# 14241089 *~The Divine Princess of the Church of Daughter-chan!~* *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail in.. got enough guilt to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:37:44 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: trent In a message dated 6/8/1999 4:06:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Talulagrl1 writes: << why do you think that? i have always been curious about their relationship i thought she was over him completely and that she even kind of loathed him >> why do you think that? There is nothing for her to be over - they never had a romantic relationship. They have always just been good friends, sharing musical interests and stuff. They are both prolific songwriters who like to control all aspects of their music and have been instrumental in the growth of each of their genre's of music (commercially for trent/industrial and emotionally for tori and all of the girls that she has inspired like alanis and sarah and paula cole). It is easy to see why they would enjoy each other's company. The only thing I have ever heard of them having a falling out would be dealing with Courtney Love ... but that wouldn't affect a relationship between tori and trent since they both hate her (thank god!!) I would think that it would give them even more to talk about. The reason I would say that tori is obsessed with trent (in a good cutie innocent way) like I said before is that I know they are friends, they don't talk much anymore (but that is a common occurance when both of them are busy working on their own stuff) - I would think that they would get together every once in a while since they both seem to like to hang out in south florida (yay, for me!!) and you cannot hide all of the references to Trent in Tori's songs. There are tons, just like there are with Neil. Trent Reznor is a very very nice person and is very intelligent, albeit extrememly small (yes, I have met him a few times and know many people who are good friends of his) and I see no reason to say that Tori hates him or even that they aren't friendly anymore. Think about it guys, does Tori seem to be the kind of person who holds grudges, hating someone whom she was once so close to that she mentioned him in her songs more than once??? No, she definetly does not. I think that if there was once some sort of argument that they are more than over it by now. Alrighty, anyway ... tell me please why you or anyone else who feels that way (that tori and trent loathe each other)??? <-- ok that sentence is really messed up, but you get the point. I find it quite interesting :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:37:32 -0400 From: "Susan Stewart" Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) I agree with Joanne about the day the tickets went on sale. I have an online name (either Sparkz658 or Wintdve99) and I was in there helping people out, I called ticketmaster to help people out...it was all fun and we started singing and stuff and I made friends. But of course now the people (that i am saying) used me, they are back to being mean. OK this might sound MAD funny (yes im gulible) but when i first liked tori and went into that room they said "tori's REAL name is Soma Irot" "Tori dies her hair with menstural blood" so on...and that sad thing was I believed it until i gained some of my own common sense. Oh and when they say that tori sucks (cause i used to do it) it's cause they want to start fights with the other tori fans...we used to say stuff when "newbies" came in like "TOri? Tori who? Who is tori amos?" or "ooh ya tori, i spit in her face once" ya know? Just to piss people off, and i stopped that and i am upset that others haven't. Ok so im done speaking, if you wanna IM me, my IM name is StarFuukr. ~~*hugs*~ it's a Bug's Life, Susan "I believe in peace BITCH" - Tori Amos "Yeah, man. It's time to let de people get good herbs and smoke. Government's a joke. All dey wan' is ya smoke cigarettes and cigar. Some cigar wickeder den herb. Yeah, man, ya can't smoke cigar. Smoke herb. Some big cigar me see man wit', God bless! Me tell him must smoke herb." - Bob Marley http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/2017/TheNoTORIousTori.html - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 10:18 PM Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) > > In a message dated 6/7/1999 7:26:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > scarletspectrum@juno.com writes: > > << I can honestly believe that Tori went into that room, only to be > snubbed...and isnt that the ultimate irony?? > I once went in there, hoping that there was someone in there with half a > brain, and I saw someone with the screen name IRapedTori. And s/he was > carrying on a conversation with everyone in there like they were old > friends. Silly me expected some sort of indignant outcry at this.... >> > > I once went into some Tori AOL chat room a few days before the sneak preview > club tour because I was all excited and some guy came in and told us that > Tori had been in a car accident ... we all believed him for a few minutes ... > some girl was in tears and then eventually after asking him a bunch of > questions - like where was she etc. and when he kept answering them all > wrong we figured out what he was doing. Then once we started ignoring him, > he started saying THIS IS TORI AMOS!! and other insane stuff like he was the > one who raped her etc... It was really horrible. > Anyway the only other time recently that I have enjoyed a Tori AOL chat was > the day the tickets went on sale online, I was in two different chat rooms > where everyone was friendly and pulling together to try to get some > information on what was happening. > > kisses, > joanne > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:22:28 +0100 From: "squidgy" Subject: Tori's home Could someone please tell me if Tori 'lives' in the States or Great Britain, I've read from various sources that she moves to England, but I'm wondering if she is still here! With Thanks, Squidgy :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:03:46 EDT From: VuduGurrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Rabbit book skh1@mindspring.com writes: < it is called When Rabbit Howls... ~~kelley Jennifer Lynn Roth wrote: > I forgot the name of the book some people were talking about in reference > to the discussion of the meaning of "rabbit In case no one mentioned this, the book is When Rabbit Howls by The Troops for Truddi Chase. If you go to a bookstore they might want the author's name. Excellant read but very disturbing. <3 Steph :o) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:07:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy M Belden Subject: Re: Tori - Led Zeppelin comparison I just listened to those two to compare, and yes, I agree. I personally think the live version of Liquid Diamonds conveys the same emotion as When the Levee Breaks, if that makes any sense. I do have to say though, CALS and WTLB are very similar. Amy, the choirgirl >Have you noticed aswell the similar drum beats at the start of 'Caught a >lite sneeze', and 'when the levee breaks'? > (If this was mentioned already sorry for being a bit slow, cause it >is kind of obvious.. :o) ~Al. - -- Amy M Belden ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu BlackDove21@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:13:21 GMT From: Tom xxxxx Subject: pigs and men Here is my take on the pig Tori suckles. I think, given the anti-man tone of BfP, that she is saying something like "Well, so many of the men I've taken to my breast have been pigs, why shouldn't I take a real pig there as well." Now, I"ve never heard Tori say it, but that's what occurred to me. And, men are pigs. I should know: I am one and I date them. As for the pigs in the RS video, I haven't seen it so I have no comment. Tom "We own nothing, nothing is ours Not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars But this poverty is our greatest gift The weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift." Emily Saliers, "Everything in Its Own Time" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:01:13 -0400 From: "Vicki Siolos" Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) I noticed the odd spelling in the handwritten introduction to the Plugged '98 tourbook... loveintori, Vicki ToriPyro@aol.com "oh look...carkeys! bye!" - Ani - will work for sex: http://travel.to/desolate.winters - -----Original Message----- From: Super Chick To: precious-things@smoe.org Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 7:25 PM Subject: Tori's Spelling (hehe) > >Ha, sorry, I couldnt resist a stupid little pun. Okay, so several times >on the list I have noticed people talking about how Tori erratically >spells some of the words in her lyrics...I myself havent particularly >noticed this, so could some kind and golden soul perhaps give me some >examples of this? Thanks in advance! > > >Cheers, Natalie >AOL Instant Message SoCenRain > > >"give me life give me pain give me myself again" > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:10:58 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) In a message dated 99-06-07 19:26:46 EDT, scarletspectrum@juno.com writes: << I can honestly believe that Tori went into that room, only to be snubbed...and isnt that the ultimate irony?? >> How can you honestly make this assumption? that is so rude, and by saying this you are not only berating the people who spend time in that room, you are making yourself a hypocrite. I mean, does anyone have any factual data based on this "story" or anything printed as to what tori said? I mean, how many times have we heard her say that the computer keyboard is not her keyboard and that she doesn't even own a computer? It's not fair that you can sit and base one or two experiences in the room as what the room is always like. if you go in at the midmorning times, there's practically no one in there, and the people who are in there hardly have enough knowledge of tori to carry on conversations.I'm sorry that it is a clique room, but it has ALWAYS been that way. the cliques just change, and form based on the people who spend a lot of time in there. I'm sorry if this came off wrong, but there is a lot that goes on in there that if you don't spend enough time, you won't know. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:14:14 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: Tori videos I've heard that a large percentage of first pregnancies end up in miscarriage. Also that cancer of the uterus or ovaries can make pregnancy more difficult, but not impossible. I know I'd be so happy for Tori if she had a child, but also jealous. I wish Tori could be my mom. I mean, imagine what her child will be like! Beautiful, talented, insightful, loved, nurtured, cherished - oh to have a mother like Tori. And her child will be raised and blessed by faeries!! maybe Tori's child's life will be better than ours. I tell you one thing, Tori's baby better appreciate her mother!! Just some thoughts. Faery Blessings, Jenn On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 XXXPandora@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/7/1999 7:24:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > megasus@geocities.com writes: > > << Anybody think she'll try to have a baby again > sometime soon? I think that would be very awesome.. after seeing her work > with > kids, it would be so sweet to see her with a child of her own. >> > > oooooooh, I hope so. She will have such cute babies. I Honestly think that > she will start trying again fairly soon. I know that my mom and my > boyfriend's mom both had miscarriages (his mom had 2) about a year before > they had their first child. So a year seems like a normal mourning period > ... and its been about a year and a half now right?? > I think Tori will be a mommy soon :) and then she can put her own kids in > her videos :P > > kisses, > joanne > *************************************************************************** "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." - John Lennon "Hey you, sitting naked by the phone, waiting for someone to call out, would you touch me?" - Roger Waters "How can you leave the past behind when it keeps finding ways to get to your heart? It reaches way down deep and turns you inside out till you're torn apart." - J. Larson "Everybody knows I'm her friend, everbody knows I'm her man" - Tori Amos Believe. *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:55:20 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Shirts ACK!!! I lost the link to the site with the "controversial" T shirts (EWF/Toriphile). I am going to buy one but I need that super gal's address to do so! HELP!! BTW, I always thought that EWF meant *on-line* fans, and toriphile ment all fans everywhere. I consider myself *both* an EWF and a toriphile (cuz all EWFs are Toriphiles...oh this is starting to sound like Logic class!!! BLEGH!) THANKS!!! Daisy Melanie daislen@wctc.net ...she's in parties... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:15:07 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: little rascals clubhouse ? ;o) In a message dated 99-06-07 22:49:17 EDT, Gud4AStorm@aol.com writes: << I'll take you up on this one. Would love a place to actually "talk Tori". :-) >> I just want to know, how much tori can you talk before you move on to other subjects? or how much tori can you talk before a correlation between her and something else comes up, and then you move on to a different subject? it's a great idea, but only for those who live, eat, breathe, and think 24/7 tori. and the only person I can see doing that would be tori if she were narcisuss (sp?). ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:35:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Fireheart Subject: Tori List for East Coast Fans! Hello, Just wanted to let all of you know about a new Tori list designed specifically for East Coast fans. Its called EastCoast Tori. Its brand new, and promises to be a fun list for Tori fans in the area who want to network with others. To read the description and subscribe, please go to: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastCoastTori Thanks ;) : `. ; .' `. .-'''-. .' ;' __ _;' Carrie E. Batcheller / '_ _`\ 165 A Pleasant St. | _( a ( a | Melrose MA 02176 '''''| (_) > |`````` \ \ / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 `. `--'.' .' `-,,,-' `. .' : `. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Daisy Dead Petals Subject: Re: Sister Named Desire Wow, that's a cool interpretation! I never thought of that before, even those Streetcar is one of my fave movies...nothing beats a young Marlon Brando, even if he is a jackass. Anyway, the more I thought about it, the more I understand your points, but I think maybe, at least for me, it's more Blanche who loses her "sway." She's the one who actually gets sent off to the funny farm in the end (I'm not sure how familiar you are with this movie, John, don't mean to correct you or anything), and is pretty much a complete fruitcake. I think Stella's loss is more one of a loss of innocence... In dreams, Erin === look i'm standing naked before you don't you want more than my sex i can scream as loud as your last one but i can't claim innocence ta _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #167 *************************************