From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #144 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, May 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 144 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori in _Facing the Music_ ["Erin Martin" ] Re: new member with questions [Freedom110@aol.com] that YKTR show [Thorpie679@aol.com] Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) [Beth Coulter ] Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) [ToriBoi@aol.com] here. in my head [ToridRoses@aol.com] tour question [Cdfreke@aol.com] Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) ["Megasusİ" ] Advance Tickets [Skylar2@aol.com] thanx ["Wake UpNeo" ] The Alanis Tour... WHAT? ["Shaigirl 19/f" ] prodigy lyrics [Mystyglass@webtv.net (Cynthia Glass)] Please Help!Sessions CD [Ariellexx@aol.com] Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? [Mikewhy ] Re: tour question [Mikewhy ] Re: Advance Tickets [Mikewhy ] Re: here. in my head [four episode lesbian ] Jackie's Strength [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: Advance Tickets [Richard Handal ] Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? [kytiara uth matar ] Re: Advance Tickets [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: Re: Advance Tickets [Skylar2@aol.com] Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: that YKTR show [XXXPandora@aol.com] remixes [Ray ] Re: Advance Tickets [four episode lesbian ] Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? [four episode lesbian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:06:05 -0400 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: Tori in _Facing the Music_ OK, I saw a Tori reference today that was pretty funny to me. I was shelving books at the bookstore where I work and came across this book called _Facing the Music_. (The author started w/ a 'C' like Clink or something...)The cover said it was about using pop music to spread a Christian message. I thought the back was funny because it said "use Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins, and even Madonna to enhance Christian teachings." Like Madonna is the unholiest of all. ;) Anyway, I decided to see if our girl were in there; I was really bored. I looked in the opening credits and they had cited the lyrics to "God." So I thumbed through until I found the part about God. As you can imagine, the song was completely deconstructed. I don't remember it exactly. "Amos suggests that God might need someone. Since He is God, why would he need someone? Because God is love and He needs our love in return!!" Things like that. At the end, it says something hilarious like "In her song 'Muhammad My Friend' from the 'Boys for Pele' album, Amos hints again that God is perceived patriarchally." Something like that...she hints?? I should write to the editors and say God is about giving God a blow job. They might respond, "Even God needs to be given head sometimes." But anyway, I thought it was funny, so look at it. I can see what the book is trying to do and I respect that, it's just an interesting slant to those of us who generally don't see her songs that way. Of course, they could be seen that way, I suppose... Hugs, Erin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:10:21 EDT From: Freedom110@aol.com Subject: Re: new member with questions In a message dated 99-05-16 22:24:17 EDT, RHPSshock@aol.com writes: > Hi. I just wanted to mention how much this line sounds like "virgins always > > get back stabbed" I just think it's interesting. I really can't decide > which > she is saying. (yes, I know what the lyric book says, but those things lie > to me sometimes.) I feel the same way too. I always felt she was saying... ''Ohh but virgins always, get *backstaged*.. no matter what they've got to say.." - As is, the virgins are getting backstaged, They aren't aloud to be in the play, or be on stage, and share the glory of it all. Get what I'm saying? Ok, I'm going to bed. - -Gus ...Do it again ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 06:32:19 EDT From: Thorpie679@aol.com Subject: that YKTR show hi everyone :) now...correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I know, Y Kant Tori Read only performed one live show, right? and this is probably a HUGE shot in the dark....but. does anyone here on this list know of anyone who attended this show? or did any of you see it? i know how completely random and out there this sounds, but.....you know. curiosity. i'm just wondering what it was like. you know if anyone has an answer to this, i will not only grateful, but DAMN SURPRISED. hahahaha thanks :) .christa. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:23:13 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) At 06:43 PM 5/16/99 -0700, Megasusİ wrote: >Yeah.. the 80's were a time where music was trying to find a place again.. the >50's and 70's were a big time in music.. the 60's and 80's were the inbetween >times when they tried to catch up musically with the rest of the world. > Excuse Me?? Have you actually listened to "60's" music??? May I introduce you to a couple of folks from that non-creative era that influenced Tori highly; John Lennon and Robert Plant. Ever hear of them? ;) The 70's (which was the era of my adolecence) had some good music (just as EVERY era does), but come on! DISCO? Great Scott! This is not a good example of good music. I don't want you to think this is a flame. It's really that every single era had some really great musical artists. As far as YKTR goes, I like it. Not my favorite album, but heck, sure is great house-cleaning music. Tori has always said she was ashamed of it not because it was Bad, but because she felt she wasn't being true to herself. She was trying to be something plastic that would sell fast, cause that's what the 80's were all about. MTV contributed highly to the 80's one hit wonders because the artists weren't being true to themselves. Tori went into herself and came forth with truth. That's why she will endure, eh? Please Meggie, don't take this as a flame, just an opinion. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~really deep thoughts and stories~ updated at least monthly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:53:43 EDT From: ToriBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) In a message dated 5/16/1999 7:24:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GonaTwinkl@aol.com writes: << b) because it really kinda is. I mean, as far as lyrics go, it is really bad. The lyrics are very weak and are tori pooring her 80's aching heart out to all the "loves" of her life. They are nothing original, and nothing that really strikes anyone as wow. Also, there really isn't much to the songs as far as the accompianoment goes. They're all pretty simple. Anyways, I love it personally. I just think it is fun music. The 80's were a...differnet time for music.I love it tho. The 80's were a fun time, and this album is the epitome of 80's rock. >> See, I totally disagree here... I think the lyrics on COYI and Ettiene are incredibly moving, and some of the music written is incredible.. Some of the best songs ever written had simple chords, that doesn't make them bad. COYI is my favorite Tori song, out of them ALL. And I think her piano playing on Ettienne is beautiful. Yea, some of the tracks are totally glam 80's, but if you try and take them for what they truly are (80's glam metal), then you can actually appreciate the talent within, if you try and make it another LE or BFB, yea, it sucks. But I think Tori's songwriting on COYI, Ettienne, and OTB is very foreshadowing of her new self to be.. Joey ToriBoi@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:19:30 EDT From: ToridRoses@aol.com Subject: here. in my head where can i find here. in my head?? thanks Lauren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:07:22 EDT From: Cdfreke@aol.com Subject: tour question i haven't been online in a couple of day but i was wondering if someone could answer my question the dent says that tix are going on sale this friday is that just for LA or is that for everywhere just wondering toodles matt the merman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:07:30 -0700 From: "Megasusİ" Subject: Re: Etienne (was Re: Survey) Beth Coulter wrote: > Excuse Me?? Have you actually listened to "60's" music??? May I > introduce you to a couple of folks from that non-creative era that > influenced Tori highly; John Lennon and Robert Plant. Ever hear of them? ;) > The 70's (which was the era of my adolecence) had some good music (just as > EVERY era does), but come on! DISCO? Great Scott! This is not a good > example of good music. I don't want you to think this is a flame. It's > really that every single era had some really great musical artists. Actually, I haven't listened to much 60's music... so my opinion wasn't totally informed, but from what I've heard... and how I see things, the 50's and 70's were really, really big times in music. In the 50's you had poodle skirts and juke boxes, and in the 70's you had flower power and peace signs. The 60's just don't ring bells for me. The 80's were when I was growing up.. and the 90's is where I live now.. of all the music I've heard (mind you, I didn't grow up with it all...) I prefer 80's and 90's.. but is it just me.. or does 90's music just seem so much more advanced than 80's? There was a huge leap there. I wasn't trying to say 60's was bad, it just doesn't stick out like the other era's do. (Not to me, and not really in the media as much as) > As far as YKTR goes, I like it. Not my favorite album, but heck, sure is > great house-cleaning music. Tori has always said she was ashamed of it not > because it was Bad, but because she felt she wasn't being true to herself. > She was trying to be something plastic that would sell fast, cause that's > what the 80's were all about. MTV contributed highly to the 80's one hit > wonders because the artists weren't being true to themselves. Tori went > into herself and came forth with truth. That's why she will endure, eh? Yeah, I understand where she would feel like she wasn't being herself.. and it doesn't seem like she was herself at all during the time. She was trying to find her place.. she went through some rebellious times (which also happened alot in the 80's.. but that happens in every era, right? ;) And those clothes.. that hair.. just wasn't her. It was definately 80's but it wasn't Tori. The music isn't bad, but I do prefer her true, real image and her current music. > Please Meggie, don't take this as a flame, just an opinion. Oh, that's okay. I thought it might be at first, but I realized it wasn't. Opinions are always welcome. :) As I said, my opinion of the 60's doesn't have very much basis... - -- ^_~Megasus~_^ http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ ICQ# 14241089 *~The Divine Princess of the Church of Daughter-chan!~* *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail in.. got enough guilt to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:11:22 EDT From: Skylar2@aol.com Subject: Advance Tickets hi all- a friendly ewf in the know told me not to buy tickets in advance for tori shows, to avoid the processing fees. but with all these announcements about shows going up for sale, i can't help feeling anxious. what do you guys think? is the Only way to get good seats for these shows gonna be to buy them at kroq, etc, online? advice, thoughts..please! .j ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:44:40 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: thanx Thanx i just did that (send for cd) and i recommend everyone do so and send the page to others and also if u have relatives who will let u have one sent there for ya, do that too that way, there will be more copies around later for trades or for those who didn't get in on it for some reason (found out too late etc.). K. (the original letter doesnt seem to be in this reply; his letter said go to www.mtv.com and in the search field type in fight for your rights. after that u'll need to click where it talks about the anti violence cd.) BTW maybe i'm imagining it but in some of the first tv ads i thought i heard silent all these years was gonna be the tori song on it ?? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:30:17 PDT From: "Shaigirl 19/f" Subject: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? I was at Ticketmaster browsing around, trying to find out when my favs are coming to town. I saw a listing for Alanis. I thought, "Wow! Maybe they have onsale info posted"! I looked, but there was no seperate listing for Tori. Which, is understandable since they're "co-headlining". Although when Garbage "opened" for Alanis, they were listed by themselves. Anyways... so I clicked on it. No information that we didn't already know. But to my surprise... it's says "primary act - Alanis" with special guest Tori. What the hell is up with that? I thought it was going to be a "co-headlining" tour... that it was BOTH of theirs. But now it's Alanis? Which you know what the means, right? That us "Tori-Only" fans are gonna pay $45 for a ticket to see Tori perform like 5 songs. Ugh... I'm pissed now. ~ Shaigirl "I can be cruel I don't know why." -Tori Amos * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * Shaigirl 19/f * shaigirl79@hotmail.com Confessions... * http://glenmar.com/~mmb AOL IM: Shaigirl79 * ICQ#: 7032035 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Mystyglass@webtv.net (Cynthia Glass) Subject: prodigy lyrics Cindy wrote: >Here's more about what Tori said about the song.. "I don't find anything cutting-edge about Smack My Bitch Up," she begins, her voice raised in passion. "The thing that bugged me is that if you're going to say something, you stand by what you say. Or you just be honest and say, Look, I hit my girlfriend and that's my statement, love me or hate me. I think it's honest that all sorts of feelings come up , but you have to stand by your work as a writer. You can't say stuff that's gonna stir people up and then not be willing to stand by it." ~ Tori Amos Yes I understand what David wrote, but does anyone have the album "Killing an Arab" by the Cure? Well the Cure wrote something on the cover of the album that said something that said hey we're not racist blah blah.. Why didn't Prodigy explain that the song isn't about violence towards women on their album cover if the song is not about violence towards women?> This pretty much sums up my feelings on this subject. It's not that anyone's saying that Prodigy should be stripped of its rights to free speech, but if you're gonna use it, at least own up to it. So *many* things today are said completely out of irreverence simply for the sake of being irreverent. You really can't tell what's sincere anymore. It's unfortunately gotten to the point where it's now become irrelevent as well, but a lot of people aren't going to understand that, and are going to take something like that completely out of context and use it as some sort of condoning of violence towards women. That's what really sucks about "shock" value. If you're going to use it, at least have a good reason to and make your intentions clear. /end of rant About YKTR, yes most of it was fluff, but I enjoyed a few songs on there nonetheless. "Etienne" was in my opinion, the best, and "Heart Attack at 23" just made me laugh. The rest of it was pretty forgettable to me...probably due to the over processed and packaged nature of it, which is pretty typical of pop music overall. Cynthia Glass http://www.angelfire.com/il/glassasylum "When illusion spin her net I'm never where I want to be And liberty she pirouette When I think that I am free." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:31:26 EDT From: Ariellexx@aol.com Subject: Please Help!Sessions CD First off let me just say sorry for sending this to the list,but I had nowhere else to go. I was just wondering if I was the only one who did not yet receive their sessions cd?The guy who was making me the copy was named Michael Scheetz, Jr.,and his email address was mtpb@rmta.org or mscheetz@mail.pacifier.com.If anyone else was a leaf on his branch please email me and let me know if you have received your sessions cd,or Michael if you are reading this-I have emailed you,but never got a reply.Please respond! I have been waiting so pateinetly,but it has been quite some time. Thanks, Rebecca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:43:23 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? >But to my >surprise... it's says "primary act - Alanis" with special guest Tori. What >the hell is up with that? I thought it was going to be a "co-headlining" >tour... that it was BOTH of theirs. But now it's Alanis? Which you know what >the means, right? That us "Tori-Only" fans are gonna pay $45 for a ticket to >see Tori perform like 5 songs. Ugh... I'm pissed now. ~ Shaigirl Several articles, press releases, and Tori herself when she was interviewed a few days ago on KROQ in LA have stressed that they will both have full sets. So please don't let this bother you! Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "I won't say GoodBye... only see you in the DreamTime. All of us, you, me will have adventures to share alchemy little SHAMEN in training we are never that far From Each other...interdimensional travel Until we meet again Hugs (it's a Bugs life)" Tori's End of Tour Message To The Dent - Nov 30, 1998 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:35:45 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: tour question Matt posted: >the dent says that tix are going on sale this friday >is that just for LA or is that for everywhere I do explain all that on my page. You must have been in a hurry. I think tickets for all shows may go on sale Friday. However, at this time we know this: The LA tickets go on sale Friday at 10:00 PT at KROQ.com The Tampa Tickets go on sale Friday at 10:00AM ET at ticketmaster.com The Baksersfield, CA tickets go on sale Friday at 7:00AM PT at alanisandtori.mp3.com. Now I personally think that all three sites above will really all point to the same site, and by Friday ALL the shows will be on sale at some point during Friday morning. But this is all we know at the moment. I strongly suspect that you will be able to buy all the tickets at alanisandtori.mp3.com on Friday. Stay tuned to the Dent for the latest! Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "I won't say GoodBye... only see you in the DreamTime. All of us, you, me will have adventures to share alchemy little SHAMEN in training we are never that far From Each other...interdimensional travel Until we meet again Hugs (it's a Bugs life)" Tori's End of Tour Message To The Dent - Nov 30, 1998 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:39:51 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: Advance Tickets >a friendly ewf in the know told me not to buy tickets in advance for tori >shows, to avoid the processing fees. but with all these announcements about >shows going up for sale, i can't help feeling anxious. what do you guys >think? is the Only way to get good seats for these shows gonna be to buy them >at kroq, etc, online? advice, thoughts..please! NO one knows the answer to this for sure right now. All the tickets will appearently be available online first before anywhere else. Will you get the best seats that way? As far as I know no one knows the answer to that question. I advise people to buy their tickets online if they can unless we find out a good reason not to. While I am assuming that tickets will eventually be sold to the general public via outlets, I have no idea when that will be or if any good seats will be left when they do. Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "I won't say GoodBye... only see you in the DreamTime. All of us, you, me will have adventures to share alchemy little SHAMEN in training we are never that far From Each other...interdimensional travel Until we meet again Hugs (it's a Bugs life)" Tori's End of Tour Message To The Dent - Nov 30, 1998 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:02:54 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: here. in my head MC 900 Ft ToridRoses@aol.com rapped: >where can i find here. in my head?? "here. in my head" is a b-side that can be found on the regular UK crucify CD single and the european 7" crucify singles. those itms might be somewhat hard to find now, so your best bet would probably be one of the b-side bootleg cds such as "forgotten earthquakes". woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:41:31 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Jackie's Strength I was wondering if anyone knows the story behind the song "Jackie's Strength". Most of it is obvious, I can relate to so much and love the song so very much, but I haven't seen anything written about the song. I love the video when she meets herself. I have been doing a lot of delving into my own issues lately and Tori seems to stretch her hand out to me each time I listen to her. She is so inspiring. I also wanted to let everyone know that I recently read the book called "What We Keep" by Elizabeth Berg and she uses a quote from "China" in the beginning. I was pleasantly surprised to see it there. It was an excellent book, BTW. - - Kim "...feeling old by 21, never thought my day would come...." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:44:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Advance Tickets .j said: > a friendly ewf in the know told me not to buy tickets in advance for > tori shows, to avoid the processing fees. And did this "in the know EWF" say anything about all the good tickets having been purchased already by the time you might be ready to buy *your* tickets? Are you planning to buy ten shows? If so, are you really that concerned over saving maybe fifty bucks? Many *box* *offices* charge *some* service fees. I can't imagine you'd save more than five bucks per show. Do you not mind possibly paying five bucks less and ending up in the back of the seating area of the indoor pavilion, as opposed to paying the five bucks and maybe having a shot at the better seats? What am I missing? > but with all these announcements about shows going up for sale, i > can't help feeling anxious. So do I. I'm planning to wait until later in the week before I decide what to do with the little money I do have right now. I'm hoping we'll have more information later this week so we'll know more about how to approach this thing. Right now, the level of information really stinks, and it looks as if the people running this process are (shocked surprise) not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: kytiara uth matar Subject: Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? On Mon, 17 May 1999, Shaigirl 19/f wrote: > surprise... it's says "primary act - Alanis" with special guest Tori. What > the hell is up with that? I thought it was going to be a "co-headlining" > tour... that it was BOTH of theirs. But now it's Alanis? Which you know what > the means, right? That us "Tori-Only" fans are gonna pay $45 for a ticket to > see Tori perform like 5 songs. Ugh... I'm pissed now. ~ Shaigirl whoah. :) take a peek at the ticketmaster info & help page : http://www.ticketmaster.com/help/articles/findevents/missing.html "Another possibility is a co-headline tour. Our database will only allow for one artist to be listed as the primary act, and the person you're looking for might, for indexing reasons alone, not appear in our database. This occured on the recent Kenny G/ Toni Braxton tour. Both artists essentially headlined the show, yet in most cities, Kenny G was indexed and people looking for Toni Braxton dates had a tough time getting the whole list. If you know that more than one artist is involved with the show or that the tour is been advertised with a specific tour name, try those possibilities when browsing the listings." trying to keep people's britches on, one person at a time, - -kytiara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:00:59 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Advance Tickets In a message dated 5/17/1999 7:12:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Skylar2@aol.com writes: << is the Only way to get good seats for these shows gonna be to buy them at kroq, etc, online? >> I would buy them online ... you have a much better chance of getting good seats since it will be the first place tickets will be made available. Plus you won't have to sleep outside to get good seats. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:52:58 EDT From: Skylar2@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Advance Tickets handal@min.net wrote: <<> a friendly ewf in the know told me not to buy tickets in advance for > tori shows, to avoid the processing fees. And did this "in the know EWF" say anything about all the good tickets having been purchased already by the time you might be ready to buy *your* tickets?>> I do not know if she was referring to general admission tickets or not. yes of course it matters to me where i am sitting, that is why i was asking for opinions of others. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:04:03 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? In a message dated 5/17/1999 7:12:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, shaigirl79@hotmail.com writes: << But to my surprise... it's says "primary act - Alanis" with special guest Tori. What the hell is up with that? I thought it was going to be a "co-headlining" tour... that it was BOTH of theirs >> This is probably because Alanis is already on tour and Tori will just be joining her for 5 1/2 weeks. It doesn't mean that Alanis will be on-stage longer than Tori. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:43:38 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: that YKTR show In a message dated 5/17/1999 7:11:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Thorpie679@aol.com writes: << now...correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I know, Y Kant Tori Read only performed one live show, right? and this is probably a HUGE shot in the dark....but. does anyone here on this list know of anyone who attended this show? or did any of you see it? i know how completely random and out there this sounds, but.....you know. curiosity. i'm just wondering what it was like. you know >> I was wondering that also ... my boyfriend (who unfortunately didn't see that show) did meet Tori during the YKTR era. He was signed to some record label (I forget which one) that shared a distribution company with Tori's label back then (I think it was still Atlantic). They both (among others) attended a meeting and he also has (well it's mine now) a promo LP of YKTR complete with the press kit and promo pictures. He said when he met her that she wasn't anything special (as far as looks) and was pleasantly surprised when we met her last year ... he said she has been much improved ... which we all know is true :) even though I think she was always beautiful, just more so now sans hairspray and swords. He said they didn't really talk much - just business, but I think its so cool that he met her back then ... so he was just as much of a rock star as she was back then and he must have been 19 or so. So you now know one of the countless reasons why I love him so much. Also when we first met he asked me what kind of music I listened to and when I answered Tori Amos - he replied well, obviously ... what else. So he knows the toriphile look too ... :) ahhh, aren't I lucky?? kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:39:41 -0700 From: Ray Subject: remixes Hey there everyone, My bf has a lot of Tori remixes on his computer, but I can't seem to get him to find the time to email them to me so if anyone would please point me in the direction of the following: Sugar Horses Crucify Precious Things Raspberry Swirl w/ Proff Widow interlude Thanks a lot! - -=Ray=- - "I wanna smash the faces, of those beautiful boys, those Christian boys, so you can make me cum that doesn't make you Jesus..." -Tori Amos "Every time I say something they find hard to hear, they chalk it up to my anger and never to their own fear..." -Ani DiFranco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:13 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: Advance Tickets MC 900 Ft Skylar2@aol.com rapped: >a friendly ewf in the know told me not to buy tickets in advance for tori >shows, to avoid the processing fees. but with all these announcements about >shows going up for sale, i can't help feeling anxious. what do you guys >think? is the Only way to get good seats for these shows gonna be to buy them >at kroq, etc, online? advice, thoughts..please! it's not uncommon for venue's to hold a number of tickets until the day of a show and sell them just prior to the doors being opened. it's also not uncommon to be able to find some tickets being sold by folks outside a venue (either scalpers trying to make a buck or ten off you or someone who legitimately has extra tickets for whatever reason). depends on your comfort level, i guess. if you aren't too attached to being *sure* that you have a seat, waiting until the day of the show is not a bad approach since you can often snag good seats at the last minute for the face value of the tickets. if you want to be *positive*, then buying in advance is the way to go. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:58:09 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: The Alanis Tour... WHAT? MC 900 Ft Shaigirl 19/f rapped: >I was at Ticketmaster browsing around, trying to find out when my favs are >coming to town. I saw a listing for Alanis. I thought, "Wow! Maybe they have >onsale info posted"! I looked, but there was no seperate listing for Tori. >Which, is understandable since they're "co-headlining". Although when >Garbage "opened" for Alanis, they were listed by themselves. Anyways... so I >clicked on it. No information that we didn't already know. But to my >surprise... it's says "primary act - Alanis" with special guest Tori. What >the hell is up with that? I thought it was going to be a "co-headlining" >tour... that it was BOTH of theirs. But now it's Alanis? Which you know what >the means, right? That us "Tori-Only" fans are gonna pay $45 for a ticket to >see Tori perform like 5 songs. Ugh... I'm pissed now. ~ Shaigirl i'll hazard a guess that ticketmaster's database is set up assuming that there is a main act and an opener. if that is the case, then in the context of their ticketing system, alanis is the "primary act" since she is on last. however, all the press about the tour indicates tori and alanis will each do a complete show, with a third act doing a real opening set. in fact, alanis' manager, scott welch, makes it clear in an article on allstar news that the co-headline is the case. you can find this article at: links to more articles in the press which support the co-headline can be found at the dent: woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #144 *************************************