From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #110 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, April 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 110 Today's Subjects: ----------------- I Am Fire [RedSpark18@aol.com] 'plugged' tour book [PokaDot420@aol.com] Re: ftp.tal.org ["Kaj-Michael Lang" ] Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori [Jethro1980@aol.com] Re: Dew Drop Inn and some other things... [skh ] Re: Tori & Christianity & Being ourselves ["Melanie D. Rootellis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:03:48 EDT From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: I Am Fire Just a short post today, I was wondering if anyone had either a real audio or a sound clip or recording of I Am Fire, I just was wondering Take Care RED ".. we danced in graveyards with vampires, till dawn..." www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/vine/9831/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:50:30 EDT From: PokaDot420@aol.com Subject: 'plugged' tour book hello everybody, i was wondering if anybody knows where i could find a 'plugged tourbook' i know hot topic had them, but no longer at the one i checked. if anyone could help me out with directions to one (i don't want to go to ebay) or has an extra id be willing to pay you for it and send a couple boots your way. i could absolutely kick myself for not already having one of these treasures:) gardens of flower fairys, sara* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:08:15 +0300 From: "Kaj-Michael Lang" Subject: Re: ftp.tal.org >Okay, I hope somebody can help me out with this. >I can never seem to get into ftp.tal.org since the guy who owns it had >to slow down the connection etc etc. But thereīs no point in trying to >log on if there arenīt any new bootlegs there, so if anyone could give >me a list of bootlegs that exist there Iīd be eternally happy. Why not ask me directly ? Well, anyway there is a filelist here http://www.tal.org/tori/files.txt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:51:20 EDT From: Jethro1980@aol.com Subject: Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori I don't write too much to this list and all but this is one topic that I just have to discuss. You know how you get this image of famous people and then when you meet them you realize that they are only human too. Meeting Tori for me was the greatest experience of my life. I was nervous and I was about to cry and I could barely talk to her when she asked me a question about my little gift to her. I had never met anyone that I thought so much of as I think of Tori. So to me being able to see Tori and really being able to really see how human she really is makes her so much more special to me. Its the fact that she is just like you and me and everyone else in the world that I love her music and the things that she says. Its not like she's from another world. She knows what's going on and she says what she wants and what she believes. The fact that her songs can touch my soul in the way that they do and no other artist has been able also makes her so very special to me. I think if I had to strive to be like anyone in the whole world I would be luck to half of what Tori is. Thanks to all who read this another little faerie Sara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:54:20 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: Dew Drop Inn and some other things... hi ellen. i'm a writer, not a psychologist... to which some would say, what's the difference? :) > Ellen Morris said: > > > but i majored in psych in undergrad and many of tori's lyrics i find > > have a sort of "schitzophrenic" quality in it.. i suppose you could call it schizo, though very loosely... she has the ability to reform words, change perspective and tense, even levels of consciousness, with the greatest of writers who became known for their ability to do such--gertrued stein, virginia woolf, samuel becket, and i dare say of his time, neil gaiman. she mutates; thus, do the words, but there is never an aspect of tori that is lost, no matter the transformation. and sometimes it's not even the words at all, but the images they evoke, therein lies the meaning... there is nothing linear about tori, her musical style, or her writing. you say schizo, i say ultra creative artist :) on a spiritual note (pun), which tori acknowledges is ramapnt in her works, her language expresses her belief that all things are connected... that many facets of soul make up what we perceive as "one" thing... her reflects this as well... the shifts in perspective, tense... i love it. as a linguist, i find it fascinating. > > ...a tailor a sailor > > but you would if i would but you never will... as richard commented, she uses 'sailor' a lot... and i think he put it well as a secret fetish of her... or maybe not so secret. after all, sailors are the epitome of bad boys... > > very repetitive rhyming like. alliteration. assonance. onomatopoeia... they're all there... be well dream full ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:14:51 -0500 From: "Melanie D. Rootellis" Subject: Re: Tori & Christianity & Being ourselves > <<...I am a pretty devout Catholic, and I think Tori is fab (obviously). > Tori's > > Hi, > I am new to the list and I want to say that how great it is to see other > fans experiencing similar situations. I also am a Christian, but I listen to > Tori. And I get so taken back when people start branding someone and > generalizing/categorizing someone based on the music to which they listen, > or how they dress, or what they look like, what books they read,.etc. > Obviously, I could go on and on. People are so quick to tell me what I am > like and who I am based on these little pieces of my life. I am made up of > many pieces and have many interests so I wish they would stop looking at > only one aspect of me and then tell me who I am. You said it!!! I am a "generalist" and I fit in many "categories", but people get frustrated because they cant automatically fit me into a slot labeled "hippy", or "alternative chick" or "goody-goody" or "new-ager". But people kep trying and trying and trying...once a person gets to know you, then hopefully they stop steroetyping you, but some people just cant get over that. > > I agree with what you wrote about Tori not expecting everyone to think > exactly like she does; she wants us to open our minds and think for > ourselves. Too many people are followers, who don't even understand what > they are following. They just run with the herd. For some reason, a lot > people tend to think that if they agree or admire some part of someone else > they have to emulate them completely and become them. YES and this is SOOO counter productive!!! But when I started realizing what she > was singing, I had a problem with it because I didn't always agree with what > she said. This was a turning point for me--I thought, well, why does she think that? And then I thought well, ok, I see where she is coming from, but that sure doesnt work for me. I am seeing a different angle of some things than she is and it is very enlightening to see another point of view. There is a front and back (and everying inbetween) to everything. >She thinks for her self and > expresses how she feels. And that's what we all should do. Right on. I mean, I love Black Sabbath, but I am not "satanic". There are a lot of people that get sucked into thinking they need to be "purists"--completely one way or another. You need to know which side youre on (to use a quote) but come on! The grey area is sooooo much more interesting!!! Lets have some spine! Think for your self! Have faith in your intelligence and in your spirit, for crying out loud! And I am glad that I am not the only one whose beliefs may > not all agree with Tori, but who wouldn't let something like that stop them > from enjoying what they truly enjoy. Her music. Well said! Thank you! Daisy Melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:20:02 PDT From: "Terry Ferrell" Subject: Thank You Hey Guys, I just want to thank all of you who wrote me back or posted up messages pertaining to the message i posted about me being a Christain, and what that girl had said to me. You guys all gave me good advice and let me know that I was not the only out there who had that problem and I really thank you for your letters. Well until next time. ~~TeRrY~ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #110 *************************************