From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #104 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, April 10 1999 Volume 04 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sister janet, here in my head, northern lad,albums [XXXPandora@aol.co] Siren Question... [KNHoppe@aol.com] Re: rubber robe [XXXPandora@aol.com] Muhammad [Pandoraie@aol.com] earrings picture/discussion? [ToriBoi@aol.com] Live To Tell [ABallezzi@aol.com] RE: Sessions CDR [Jenelle Campion ] Tori Trent Courtney [Jeffrey Clark ] tori's seasons ["Thomas Mazorlig" ] [none] ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] boys for pele... [Fiveginst1@aol.com] Re: Beenie Baby...I'm her man.... ["glytter grrl" ] raspberry swirl [Cynthia Lawson ] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #101 [Kim Hatton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:52:06 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: sister janet, here in my head, northern lad,albums >>Honey was a UTP B-Side... it was on Over the Pink<< actually honey is on the pretty good year single joanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:03:15 EDT From: KNHoppe@aol.com Subject: Siren Question... I'm sure this might even be a dumb question, but I've been possessed by this song tonight... Does anyone know if Tori's ever performed Siren live? - -Noelle- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:02:28 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: rubber robe In a message dated 4/8/1999 10:42:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pigs@swva.net writes: << Pope's rubber robe came to mind. I have an idea on what it means. >> I always thought it was a condom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:38:01 EDT From: Pandoraie@aol.com Subject: Muhammad Hi, i'm kinda new, been lurking and things and i just thought... when she says "And what about the deal, on the flying trapezee (sp?) got a peanut butter hand. but, honey, do drop in at the Dew Drop Inn." is she referring to the Dew Drop Inn mentioned in To Kill a Mockingbird ? just a thought stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:35:27 EDT From: ToriBoi@aol.com Subject: earrings picture/discussion? Hey Guys, remember back in February, we were talking about Toro's earrings, and anyway, someone gave a link to a site with a picture of her wearing them... Anyway, I want to get back to that site, not for that picture, but because I have never seen a site with so many Tori pictures before! Does anyone faintly remember which one it might be? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:03:47 EDT From: ABallezzi@aol.com Subject: Live To Tell "Tori has covered this in concert exactly once: on her birthday on her 1996 tour. There is a bootleg of this show available, but it has -horrible- sound quality. If you're desperate to hear this song, it's the only place to get it, but be aware that it blows." /nad OK, if -anyone- has this bootleg or knows where i could get it, please e-mail me! i really want to hear this song! Anna-Marie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:43:10 -0400 From: Jenelle Campion Subject: RE: Sessions CDR I would also love to 2:1 for a cd-r of hte sessions cd if anyone is willing to do that Jenelle Sweet dreams of once upon a time... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:44:58 -0400 From: Jeffrey Clark Subject: Tori Trent Courtney What exactly is this deal with Tori, Trent Reznor, and Courtney Love? I hear a lot of references to it, but would like to know what's going on. Jeffrey Clark - Systems Coordinator, SorrowSoft ayukawa@twcny.rr.com http://home.twcny.rr.com/alliance ICQ UIN #1361324 "When you sleep, where do your fingers go?" - Cake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:02:19 PDT From: "Thomas Mazorlig" Subject: tori's seasons Heather, your post was brilliant! I love the way you connected the seasons to Celt myth, which I think Tori must know something about since she's so up on mythology in general. Great analysis. I love what you said about her burning parts of herself away on Pele and viewing herself through a pink lens. Now, do the bsides for the albums fit these themes? The ones for FTCGH seem very autumnal to me. Sort of quiet and drawing in, and we have the water theme moving through them again. I dont' have a lot of the other bsides, so I cant' say too much about the others. happy dreamtime, Tom _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:30:57 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: [none] Why does everyone think that that picture on ebay is inauthentic because of her BODY? What is so fake about that body??? It looks like a plausable Tori body to me!! Just thinner and more muscular, and that comes and goes with time, after all. The terror couple, Daisy Melanie and Lenny Green daislen@wctc.net "If your mind isn't open, keep your mouth shut too." - --Sue Grafton, M is for Malice "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - --Issac Asimov, Foundation ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:29:27 EDT From: Fiveginst1@aol.com Subject: boys for pele... sorry for the unimaginative title, anyway... i was at my local hot topic and lo and behold, what do i see but one copy of boys for pele on vinyl for the low price of 9.99! so, being the suave guy i am, i ran over and picked up the vinyl and bought it. it is so killler! the records look really cool! so, that was my most excellent day... yesterday my best friend lisa (who is pregnant) found out that she is having a girl! she's due in august. the only thing left to happen is to hear confirmed reports about tori coming back to philly (or for her to even go on tour at all). anyway, i have nothing else to say (well, nothing of extreme importance). remember, if we all keep pushing then maybe we'll turn into one giant person and then everyone will be in the front row! have a toriffic day! love ~~jayson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:30:40 EDT From: "glytter grrl" Subject: Re: Beenie Baby...I'm her man.... to quote Matthew: NO NO NO NO NO I can honestly say that I am completely "in love" with my best friend Karen. She is the world to me, but I'm not bisexual or lesbian. She feels the same way for me. We kinda call each other our "soulmates" in another life, because we are so connected. She's involved with her man and I'm getting married and we are totally commited and in "true love" as you call it with them. Not to be rude, but you really can't say if she's "in love" with someone or not, and what they really feel for their friend. I have friends that I "love" and care for, but I'm "in love" with Karen...and she's still just my best bud. > > >NO NO NO NO NO >You're not "in love" with her.... You can love someone without being "> >What you are feeling is that love for friends, but you are not "in love" >with your friends....if you are, they're no longer your friends. >Matthew > >You say you want to change our minds... >I paid for your belief with mine. > >ICQ# 298707 >mrzebra@fumblers.org >http://surf.to/gotsarah - got Sarah? >http://surf.to/ssfumblas - SouthSide > >Cult of E Membership #138 >FuCS/DA exfe96 a+++ Ifte lms/txus r++ ps+++ bs t-- C++ w++ >p1 LF+/*** N++ cd70+ pr+ g- S* x Fa m+ b!/- fc- E rl!@+++ s! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:04:57 -0300 From: Paula Cotton Subject: If anyone's interested cool, if not I am sorry to bother anyone I know that this single isn't very difficult to find, but unintentionally I ended up with two copies of it, and would really like to maybe trade with someone else for something that I don't have, cause that would be really cool...I've never traded anything before, but for this I'd really rather trade for something I don't have rather than just sell it for like 5 bucks or whatever. Anyways it's the Raspberry Swirl/Cruel single, track listing: track 1: Cruel-Shady Feline Mix, track 2: Raspberry Swirl-Lip Gloss Version, track 3: Ambient Raspberry Swirl-Scarlet Spectrum Feels, track 4: Mainline Cherry-Ambient Spark It's in mint condition, haven't even opened the plastic on it, and I don't plan to, cause since I already have another copy of it, there's no need to open it. But anyways if anyone is interested at all, please feel free to give me a shout and maybe we can work something out:) peace love n tori, Paula ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:44:47 PDT From: "Heather Parsons" Subject: Re: tori's seasons Thomas wrote: >your post was brilliant! I love the way you connected >the seasons to Celt myth, which I think Tori must know >something about since she's so up on mythology in general. >Great analysis. I love what you said about her burning parts >of herself away on Pele and viewing herself through a pink lens. Thanks so much, Tom. Everyone has had really great things to contribute to this conversation -- I'm just going with the flow, putting all of my reading in Celtic mythology to good use, other than me just throawing out random facts in conversations. Yay, usefulness rules! >Now, do the bsides for the albums fit these themes? The >ones for FTCGH seem very autumnal to me. Sort of quiet >and drawing in, and we have the water theme moving through >them again. I dont' have a lot of the other bsides, so I >cant' say too much about the others. Someone already mentioned (quite shrewdly) that "Cooling", which was written during Pele (the fire album) and released as a FTCH (water) bee side, says it all within itself: "Fire thought she'd really rather be water instead." I think that line is very, very telling, and it also fits in with the end of Pele being a transition into FTCH. As for other FTCH bee sides -- Purple People, Bachelorette, Never Seen Blue, Beulah Land...I can see PP and Bach. fitting very much into the Fall theme, but Blue and Land are very much their own, I think. Really, I think it's safe to say that the bee sides are pretty much branches off of whichever album are out at the time. I can see water throughout the Choirgirl Hotel bee sides, though. I know I didn't say anything new at all, but I'm sure someone has lots to say about it. Heather ===================================== "He sleeps under stairs, along with the heirs of nothing, and nothing means no one who cares..." - -- Stay (Belly) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:38:34 -0500 From: Cynthia Lawson Subject: raspberry swirl Hello everyone (Laura, te puedes saltar esto, ya lo has oido!), I have just been sitting back enjoying the RS thread that's been going on, and well, before any comments I had one question...is this a woman thing, because I haven't seen many guys posting on the subject...hello?? have you guys felt the same way?? i'd love to hear some answers to that... And with respect to me, well, wow, i just have to say this thread could have not come to my life at a more appropriate time...I guess I can directly relate to everything people have been saying...no boundaries, no need to classify relationships...the other day I was thinking about sexuality, and came to the conclusion that our sexuality depends on a great deal on the society we grow up in...coming from a very tight and conservative latin american society i can very much relate to what I am saying...expressing what one feels is not very easy, and I guess this unfortunately defines what paths people decide to take, not always being the best one deep down in their hearts... wow, you can tell i have much to say...but most of you will not be interested, so I just wanted to thank you all very much for the wonderful posts you've been sending...I have always felt in this RS situation with my girlfriends, never as strong as what I am going through now with my best friend. Soulmates in a past life...no, in this one, definitely. my face lites up when we talk...oh, yes, always... I can relate to everything that's been said...i particularly remembered those two comments. But it is somehow becoming something much more intense, harder to handle, and well, really changing my life...I won't go into details, because I've talked about it enough for the day (no, L??) thanks for reading, and as always, for sharing... xx C. "There's nothing that makes you feel "None of us is ever that better inside far.. than love or communicating." just an element away." -Tori Amos- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim Hatton Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #101 i have two best friends.. jessica and lindy... and anouther one of my friends nicole is moving too.. but shes not sure where she would be moving... jessica is moving away in two months and lindy is going away to be an exchange student in about 5 months. i'm so scared, because i love them all and i'm so scared that without them that everything will fall apart and that i will lose myself. i dont really know who to talk to about this, or anyone that would really understand this. and then i saw your post, and i thought that you would understand it, so i mailed you... i dont have many friends and i'm in the 'freak' group... so not many people really want to make friends with me. i'm really quiet for the most part, so chances are that i wouldnt be making many friends either. between 3 of my friends moving and the rest of my friends (who are seniors) going away to collage next year i'm scared to death of what my life will be like and what i will turn into. My friends are what keep me going whenever times are tough. and if i dont have any friends... you said that you never were the same person after your friend moved away. So i'm really wondering how it is that you can function when you are no longer yourself. or maybe you are yourself, but a completely new version? thanks for listening, please email me back if you have the time, - -kim > Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:48:13 -0700 > From: "Megasusİ" > Subject: Re: Beenie Baby...I'm her man.... > > becky wrote: > > > I'm not bisexual because I can't imagine > > making out with a girl - I've tried and it just > switches to boys and I'm > > pretty happy with my boy - but I would indeed > classify myself as a Rasberry > > Swirl girl. Thank you, Tori, for giving it a > name. It's perfectly natural > > to have crushes on your lady friends. > > I never saw it that way, but that's an awesome > insight. I guess I could call > myself a Raspberry Swirlgirl too, then. I wont go > into it, though. :) > > > I don't know if this makes it less confusing. It > seems natural to me. I > > don't have the friendships of these women anymore > - maybe because they felt > > the same and it just wasn't going anywhere, the > normal friendship was > > ruined. I don't know if I could talk about it > intimately with my friends > > like that. i've told my boyfriend, and he > understands so I'm sure Mark does > > to. > > I think that's awesome. It totally makes sense... > and I'm not sure if that's > exactly how Tori meant it.. but it sure sounds good > to me. I'd love to hear Tori > speak about the song... I've loved the song since I > first heard it, and I > figured it had something to do with that... > > On another note, somebody else mentioned how people > get labled as 'homosexual' > 'bisexual' and the sort... My thoughts are that > nobody should be labled, or > force to choose what or who they are. Who you are is > naturally developed over > time.. and if you're attracted to the same sex at > some point, it doesn't > necessarily make you gay or bi... it just means > you're going through life, > experimenting with all your feelings and I think > it's totally natural.. and > maybe Tori does love Beene as more than just a > friend.. because Beene is her > best friend, and I know my best friend was the most > important person in my life > until she moved away... and when she did move, I > lost myself... I don't think > I've found myself again, either. Anyway.. enough > babble. Point is, I think you > have a wonderful grasp on what the song means, > Becky.. thanks for that > insight... :) > > - -- > ^_~Megasus~_^ > http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ > ICQ# 14241089 > *~The Divine Princess of the Church of > Daughter-chan!~* > *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* > > "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail > in.. got enough guilt > to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos > > "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." > -Tori Amos === "It does not matter how you hide, I'll find you if we want to" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #104 *************************************