From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #77 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, March 17 1999 Volume 04 : Number 077 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: is bfp everyones least fav? [Tripp Gwyn ] Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection [Tripp Gwyn ] Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection [Talula33@aol.com] Re: schaubie pen- help! (terminology freaks only) [honeydew ] Re: is bfp everyones least fav? ["strange as angels" ] Re: really-deep-thoughts archives [Frederica Rose ] blue skies ["~Wendi~" ] Re: is bfp everyones least fav? [PeaCeGrLy2@aol.com] new Toriphorium [RedSpark18@aol.com] Re: is bfp everyones least fav? [RedSpark18@aol.com] Markers and the like [Sara Hansen ] Re: blue skies ["Megasus©" ] My Tori trip/dream pt.9 Burlington, VE [Laura Damico Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? No, Pele is and always will be my favorite Tori album. Nothing will ever top it for me. It's so personal. Order doesn't matter really. Although, it times of trouble, I listen to the entire record in order. Tripp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:45:32 -0500 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection AFter watching the DOC, I myself worried for Tori. She did make a comment about Maynard's FREE FRANCES BEAN SHIRT. I thought it was too funny. I seriously don't think Mark or Joel would let Love anywhere near Tori. I do find it weird that Stipe is such good friends with T and also good friends with Love. I bet they're both not invited to big parties. Tripp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:29:38 EST From: Talula33@aol.com Subject: Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection In a message dated 3/15/99 8:22:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, Katapilla7@aol.com writes: > > > What is the relationship between tori and courtney. i have been meaning to > ask for awhile did they hang out were they friends at one time and now they > are not. does anyone know tori said in i think Q(the gold shirt/whatever issue) early last year that they had never spoken and that basically it was for the best and she planned on keeping it that way. im sure you can find the article on the dent somewhere. hope that helps. :) marie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:31:17 -0600 From: honeydew Subject: Re: schaubie pen- help! (terminology freaks only) Ray wrote: > > Hey guys- > > BfP is out in the car so I hope I've spelled that right, but could someone > please tell me what a "schaubie pen" is in reference to Horses? actually it's "sharpie pen", which is a permanent marker. Danica - -- The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/tori/realm.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/ - - mental.block [danica's personal site] *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:32:16 EST From: Dangalee@aol.com Subject: Re: Toriphoria & .wav files In a message dated 3/15/99 7:11:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, gazelle_sunday@unforgettable.com writes: << 1) Is the Toriphoria website still around? The address I have, http://members.aol.com/yessaid is invalid. >> Toriphoria is still around, but at a new address: http://members.aol.com/dangalee/toriphoria.html The address changed because the AOL account i was on was cancelled. long story. I'm moving soon and will be getting a new permanent account so the address will change one last time in a few weeks... i'll let everyone know.. sorry about all the weirdness of address changing, it's as annoying to me as it is to people looking for the site... but this will be the last change unless i find a good place to put the page up for free. but i'll probably just stick with the AOL web space i'm given since i've never had any problems with it and i don't think AOL will be leaving us any time in the near future... :) j'ason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:38:18 -0600 From: the glitter girl Subject: confessions of a _Pele_ lover boys for pele is my absolute without a doubt favorite of tori's albums. i love them all, but Pele gits into my cd player (and my insides) more than any other. there are more individual songs on pele that i put on repeat than on any of her other albums, too. hey jupiter is one of the greatest things that ever happened to me, likewise father lucifer (beenie lost the sunset, but that's okay). and the doughnut song is one of the most incredibly unbelievably wonderful songs she's ever written. and i love the style of little amsterdam and in the sprintime of his voodoo. and then caught a lite sneeze and talula--my god. pele b-sides are my favorites, too...frog on my toe, amazing grace, london girls, that's what i like mick, graveyard, toodles mr jim, samurai...the list goes on. i also think pele really shows off tori's incredible diversity as a musician. and it's got so many stories--each song takes you away into a different world. marianne. professional widow. ack, i can't say anything meaningful, but every song on the album makes me explode or implode or otherwise react to rearrange my insides, more than any of her other (absolutely incredible) works. anyway, just so you know... have a nice day, bessie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:19:23 EST From: Cindy2Love@aol.com Subject: Courtney Love, Elitists & fave albums >> am one of the people who said that i don't think tori should be on trl, >> andbefore any of you accuse me of being selfish (well, i suppose it's a little > >late for that) i think you should consider that people are entitled to > >differences of opinion. i am very free with tori. if i think one of my friends would > > like her, i sit them down to listen. if someone expresses a genuine interest, i make > > them a tape. i am certainly not selfish. Nad writes: > No, but "elitist" springs to mind. :) Ooh I thought this Tori quote was perfect for this... "I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY AWARE OF: MY WORK DOESN'T RELATE TO THE MASSES. MY WORK IS REALLY FOR THE ELITE. AND WHEN I SAY ELITE, I MEAN THE MENTAL ELITE." ~ Tori Amos Oh ya know I received alot of mail from people saying that they're no less of a fan than me because they've only liked Tori for year or 2 years or... I'm totally sorry if that's what people thought I meant.... I'm so happy you guys are all fans okay.. It makes me feel all warm and squishy inside and I'm glad we all like her.. I never meant to say "Oh I'm a bigger Tori fan because I've liked her since 1992." It's just that some of you were talking about putting her on TRL and you've been a fan for a year.... It's just hard for me to let go of Tori to the masses since I've liked her so long so I just wanted you to understand what I was talking about, but I really can't explain it that well anyway.... But the best I can explain it is that I feel like I'm watching one of my close friends become famous and I'm really happy for her, but at the same time I want things to be the way they used to be.... I know it's selfish, but I can't help how I feel... You people are telling me you never have selfish feelings about anything? :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE COURTNEY THREAD Umm here are some Courtney things I pulled up that I feel like I've already discussed before so sorry if I did... Trent Reznor (from Nine Inch Nails) said that Tori and him were developing a friendship but some malicious meddling on the part of Courtney Love ruined their growing friendship. Spin 1996 : "Other people put their fingers in the pie, and they kind of messed up a friendship. We're not that close now. Some malicious meddling on the part of Courtney Love. But I still feel the same feelings for Tori." Trent asked Courtney to open for six of his shows once. "The first three shows he didn't talk to her. 'In Cleveland she was completely intoxicated, a fucking mess.' He says that at one after show party she was passed out on a pool table with her dress hiked up, and people were taking photographs, as though it were all quite normal." Trent goes on to say that Courtney is fiercely competitive, and is obsessed with the media and how she is perceived. He called her a manipulator and a careerist. Basically she went around saying a lot of negative things about Trent (like saying he has a small penis and the band should be 3 inch nails instead of nine inch nails) and she said stuff that she would knew would hurt him and I think she said some not very nice things about his relationship with Tori and that's why their friendship got messed up. Here's an excerpt from Details Magazine 1995...... It is time to tell the legendary tale of Charles Manson, Tori Amos and a curiously uncooked chicken. Trent and Tori had become friends (he sang on her last album) and she would visit him at the Los Angeles house where the Downward Spiral was recorded. The house where Manson followers killed Sharon Tate. On one visit, Tori told a depressed Trent that she would whip up a hearty home cooked meal. The cursed chicken. After 6 hours in the Tate house oven, it was still bloody and raw. Tori's preferred excuse : "The spirits of the house wouldn't let in in." Eventually Trent left for another studio, where he ordered in. And the chicken? He shrugs. "I didn't ask. The ghost ate it." Tori quoted as saying about Courtney.... "Let's put it this way, Courtney Love and I have never spoken. We've never spoken about it and we've never spoken and I think it's best kept that way. We have mutual friends. I don't want to put them in a bad position." Tori quotes relating to Professional Widow and Courtney Love... Professional Widow Did any of these songs frighten you as you wrote them? "Professional Widow. Blood Roses." "I wrote it about my own experience. I got all that nastiness out. The truth is, if there's a part of you, of Polly [Jean Harvey], of Bjork, or of Courtney Love, which is the black widow, then you will relate to the song. If people don't feel that way, they won't resonate with it." >From an interview with Tori from Singapore, January 23, 1996. "As I got to know Widow, I began to really adore her candor. She was so cut off from so many other parts of being, but here she is, deliciously convincing him [i.e., the black widow spider's doomed male mate] to kill himself so she doesn't have to leave fingerprints on his body. She'll make sure he showers before all this begins. She's ready to extract what she wants until he's dead. Whatever his addiction is, she's convincing him that Mother Mary will supply it." Do you realize you're seen as good copy by journalists? "Courtney Love gives good copy." Seeing as you um, mentioned Courtney Love, there's talk that you wrote Professional Widow about her. Is that true? "There's a lot of talk about her. One of my best friends is close with her. I would never dishonor that." >From "Shock and bull TORI", Herald Sun newspaper (Australia), July 9, 1998, by Cameron Adams. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Response to what Rachel said about BFP being everyone's least fave album. Nah for me my fave albums go like this.. LE UTP BFP FTCGH I do recognize BFP as some of Tori's most amazing work though... It may not be my favorite, but it's genius.. BFP is where I lost a lot of my little Tori friends though.. I just don't think they understand what she was writing about... Like my friend Sarah who got into her with me around LE said about BFP... "Why's Tori writing all this nonsense?" and I tried to explain it but she just didn't get it.... She's totally smart and stuff, but it's just that BFP was not her thing... Then with FTCGH Sarah said: "What's with all this techno crap?" Almost everyone I know claims that "Tori went downhill after LE." which I happen to think is totally not true.. She evolved as artist... She can't write four albums like LE..... I mean she could, but I think that would be boring.... Okay sorry my email was so long... Ahh I need to go back to writing my term paper... Love ya much, *Cindy* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 02:13:42 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Tori inspired mailing list for survivors (fwd) Hi, All: Shannon has paid me the honor of giving me permission to forward to RDT(RN) this post she just made to ToriNews, and I'm sure she'll be okay with me posting it here on Precious Things as well. This more than anything else makes me proud to be a Toriphile. Take care, Richard Handal, H.G. Forwarded message: >From owner-torinews@smoe.org Tue Mar 16 00:28:49 1999 >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:41:18 -0600 >From: Shannon >To: torinews@smoe.org >Subject: Tori inspired mailing list for survivors Hi Welcome to Barbados(http://www.angelfire.com/ns/barbados7/index.html), a Tori Amos inspired site for survivors of sexual assault and abuse, has added a mailing list/online support group for Ears With Feet who are also survivors and want to find other survivors who are Toriphiles in order to gain support. It is called Ripple Back To Me. Here is a description of the mailing list: This is a Tori Amos oriented list for survivors of sexual assault and abuse. It is geared towards the recovery of survivors who have found inspiration to heal through the music of Tori. This list is associated with the website Welcome to Barbados and was formed in order to supply survivors with a source on the internet where they can discuss the delicate issues surrounding healing from sexual assault and abuse. For more information on the structure and guidelines of this list please visit the Welcome to Barbados website and go to the Ripple Back To Me page: (http://www.angelfire.com/ns/barbados7/ripple.html) Thanks, Shannon and Heidi - -- "Keep the boys spinning in their little world...tie them up so they wont say a word" - -tori amos __________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from ToriNews, e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:09:58 -0600 From: "Way to kick major a** Alanis and Lauryn!" Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? i'd say that bfp ties ftch for my favorite of tori's because i bought bfp last february, and i fell in love, and then ftch came out in may, and they were what got me into tori the most. i'd say little earthquakes is my least favorite and least important to me, personally. it could be the whole guy thing and some of the longer songs lose me..but my absolute favorite tori song of all time is on there: precious things... but i'd say i like ftch and bfp the most, then utp, then le. though i think there are some songs on bfp i skip because i don't like them at all (ex: twinkle, putting the damage on) but i think it's just natural because there are so many songs, they can't all be as awesome. that's why ftch is great, not many songs, but each one rocks. even pandora :) thanx for reading anthony :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:32:13 -0800 (PST) From: robin cole Subject: Tori on MTV Mike, you can reject this post if you're just too sick of this topic, I'll understand. But I just have to say one thing. MTV is how I discovered Tori. Summer of '92 I actually had cable for the first time since leaving home for college (oh, good ole dorm life) and they played the Crucify video enough times for me to fall in love with the song and actually go to the record store to see if I could find this Tori Amos person. Back then I rarely bought music because I just didn't have any money, and I was tempted to only buy the single (it may have been an EP). But I just had a feeling I would really like more of her songs so I took the plunge and bought the WHOLE tape! (no CD player at that time). Needless to say, it changed my life as a music fan and maybe as a person too. I'm very thankful to have discovered her back then, rather than later or never, and I owe it to MTV. (No disrespect to recent EWFs, I'm just being appreciative of the last six years of enjoying her music). As annoying as MTV can be, as much as I wish they'd play more Tori and better music in general, as dumb as I find most of their programming, I'll never forget that they introduced me to Tori. So I say, get her on TRL. You never know who might be flipping through the channels, or have it on MTV as background music, or in the same room with someone who is watching the show, and they hear Tori and they go "hmmm... who is this Tori Amos? I should go to the record store and see if I can find that song." And then they've statred down their own Tori path and there is another person in this world who is just that much happier because they've found an artist who makes music especially for them, and for the rest of us, they just haven't met us yet. :) Robin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:47:57 -0500 From: "strange as angels" Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? : : : : > ok little earthquakes is definitely toris most important album....... : : > but i think that bfp is her best work...it is : raw.powerful.emotional....and : : > wonderful in every way.thoughts?rachel : : ....i seem to be far the oposite, as if i were forced to actually catagorize which of tori's albums i liked best to least (god forbid, it would be a painful process! can't do it!) i think Boys for Pele would be number one. granted, it would never be an album that i'd recomend for someone wanting a first taste of tori, i think you have to already have an appreciation for her to completely adore the album, like i do. It's one of the most eccentric pieces i've ever heard, and for some reason, it helps channel pieces of me more often (all of tori's work does, at different times..) then the rest of the albums. we all seem to be in agreement that Tori's debut LE is the most powerful and impactful yet, but it seems as if the close second for the majority of the people on the list is UtP. I love Utp, but i'd have to say that thats deffinitely my least fav, eventhough it was the first tori cd i ever had and got me INTO her (which shows how much i must have loved it, and in comparison to how much i like the others.. it gives you an idea ;) ...think thats all for now, (happy birthday to me) :rachael: ¸.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·÷× ×÷·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·. ..any means in your horizon heaven in a tourniquet ..the after life to keep your eye on (a bitter pill you take today) with expert levitation forward ..polished to the nth degree it takes it's smile from every children ..you take the beating *placebo* `·.,¸.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.¸.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.¸.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.¸¸¸,.·´¯`·.¸.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.¸¸,.· : ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:58:00 -0500 (EST) From: Robert L Reynolds Subject: Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection Hi everyone! I have a couple of thoughts on this that I'd like to share, if you don't mind. Firstly, we were listening to BfP in the car and my mom, upon hearing PW, goes, "Is this song about Courtney Love? It really sounds that way." I had not mentioned one thing which would give this indication to her. But I agree, it does sound a bit much like Courtney. Second, if Tori said it wasn't about her... Remember in Storytellers where she was telling the story behind Silent All These Years and Eric was like, "Tori, that's your life story" and she stopped and went, oh, it IS! Maybe she just hasn't realized it yet. Well, I mean, also, she likes to be open to interpretation, so PW could be about a lot of things. I can see the argument from several sides. Thanks for listening! :) hugs, - -Rob ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Robert Reynolds Hodges Library Dark Prince Serials Department Everyone around me is a total stranger everyone avoids me like a cyclone ranger... http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/9346/main1.html ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, becky wrote: > >Hey hey hey . . . let's go . . . > >Professional Widow (aka Courtney Love) > >slag pit, stag shit, honey bring it close to my lips yes . . . (this has >some blow job connotations. A stag is a male deer.) > >don't blow those brains yet. . . (Kurt blew his brains out) > >we gotta be big boy we gotta be big . . . (According to the documentary, >Courtney has been said to use rock stars to heighten her own career. She >definitely used Kurt in that way. She's saying that he hasn't gotten quite >"big enough" for her yet . . . so he's gonna have to wait to kill himself >until then.) > >starfucker just like my Daddy . . . (she doesn't get along with her dad. >They're estranged. He's now trying to cash in on her fame by writing books >on what a jerk she is.) > >it runs in the family . . . (She's also a Starfucker. . . Kurt.) > >rest your shoulders Peaches and Cream . . . (this may be stretching it but >have you ever notices what a nice complexion Courtney has?) > >everywhere a Judas as far as you can see . . . (Jesus thought that Judas >loved him best out of all his disciples. Kurt thought Courtney did the >same. Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss. Same with Courtney. But, she >basically really thought Kurt should die.) > >it better be big boy . . . (this could be a reference to Tori being pissed >off about Courtney saying Trent Reznor had a small penis.) > >So, there are my thoughts right now. I tend to think of this song in >connection to events that have happened in my personal life but I, >personally, like having different meanings and outlooks to songs. That's >why I think song interps are valid and should be a part of this list. OK, >I'm off my soapbox now. > >See you later, >becky > > >At 06:39 PM 3/15/99 -0600, you wrote: >>But I thought Waitress was about Courtney...since she added the extra lyrics >>on Sessions(etc..). >>And she did Waitress THE MOST on the tour. >>I don't see any Courtney in Widow, but perhaps I'm not looking hard >>enough... >>Any Ears wanna lend a hand (instead of a foot)? >> >>Matthew >> >>I like pleasure spiked with pain and music is my aeroplane. >> >>ICQ# 298707 >>mrzebra@fumblers.org >>http://surf.to/gotsarah >> >>Cult of E Membership #138 SouthSide >>FuCS/DA exfe96 a+++ Ifte lms/txus r++ ps+++ bs t-- C++ w++ >>p1 LF+/*** N++ cd70+ pr+ g- S* x Fa m+ b!/- fc- E rl!@+++ s! >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:52:40 EST From: Katapilla7@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection In a message dated 3/15/99, 10:25:05 PM, zellarre@pilot.msu.edu writes: <> i think the honey bring it close to your lips is the gun then dont blow those brains kat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:55:58 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: My "Courtney is a killer" collection At 05:48 PM 3/15/1999 -0800, Frederica Rose wrote: > >i don't think tori is worried at all. i don't think she has anything to worry >about. they are both too high profile to do anything stupid, however, i do >think that if tori's not playing pw in concert has anything to do with courtney >love, it is probably only a matter of discretion, because while we all know her >feelings about it, it would be in bad taste for her to broadcast them at every >show. also, tori says that she plays songs according to the vibe she gets from >the audience, and i doubt "let's go kill courtney love" is one that she picks up >on all that often. i know that i love pw, but i definitely have to be in the >mood to listen to it. i don't really care about courtney love one way or >another, but, that song speaks to me most clearly when i am pissed off about >something. love, freddie Tori has said that song is extremely hard for her to play. I had hoped that she'd bring PW on the Plugged tour, when she had the band to help her out, but she didn't (obviously!). Perhaps a part of the reason she didn't do it Plugged was because she's gotten over the hurt and anger that caused her to write it, and didn't feel that it was necessary to play it again. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:35:59 -0800 From: Frederica Rose Subject: Re: really-deep-thoughts archives i was wondering if anyone who subscribes to really deep thoughts (the fanzine, not the internet thingee, if there even is one) has gotten one lately or knows anything about it. i subscribed about two years ago and have only recieved two copies, when i should have gotten 4. needless to say i am a little annoyed. anyone know who i should contact? love, freddie cinders blue wrote: > hey gang, > > does anyone know of a complete archive of the really-deep-thoughts mailing > list? i know about the archive at > , but it is missing the > first year plus of the list's existance. unfortunately, i'm pretty sure > that the archive which used to be at ftp.uwp.edu poofed when the university > of wisconsin pulled the plug on that site. *sigh* > > woj - -- "When this battle is over, I feel I will survive, In the battle of the dragon, no one walks away..." -Stevie Nicks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:33:24 -0500 From: "~Wendi~" Subject: blue skies hi all, can anyone tell me how many different versions of "blue skies" there are, and the names of them?? thanks in advance, wendi :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:10:05 EST From: PeaCeGrLy2@aol.com Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? BFP was the first one i started listening to. I'm kind of a new tori fan in comparison with some of you guys...and i've heard her other albums, but I really like BFP the best. =) ~~Bubbles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:50:50 EST From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: new Toriphorium My feeble attempt at making a tori chat space..... its kinda dorky and only for aol members.. but hey maybe you should go there so we could chat about tori.... it's under arts and entertainment and called Toriphorium...Or you could ignore this completely~~ ^_^ Bye now! Red ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:45:26 EST From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? I just happen to adore all of Tori's albums... There are songs off each album that are my favorites and I love to mix them and listen to them as if it was an album.... kinda cheezy I know but hey......I don't know about LE being her most important album I don't know what that means... I'm glad she broke out of the 'rock chick' stage though or else we wouldn't hear such beautious music as we do today... Every one please be kind to one another with your opinions.... We faerie's don't want to hurt other people or eachother.... Right? Please take others opinions and respect and learn from them... Also don't forget to just sit back and throw one of tori's albums in and relax... just feeeeel the music.. cheezy again I know but hey.. Have a great day Toriphiles! ~~RED *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "....mohammed my friend, it's time to tell the world.. we both knew it was a girl back in Bethlehem... and on that fateful day when she was crucified she wore sheseido red, and we drank tea by her side... sweet.." *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/vine/9831 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:27:45 -0600 From: Sara Hansen Subject: Markers and the like Two posts in one day, woo-hoo! Ray asked about what exactly a "schaubie pen" is. That is how she's pronouncing it, but she's actually singing "sharpie pen." You know, the permanent markers? In case you don't... they're a popular brand of permanent marker. They sometimes squeak when they write on posterboard, or even paper for that matter. They have a very distinct smell; some people find it unpleasant, some people (I among them) find it very pleasant. It dredges up the days when my mother would write my name on the paper brown sack that held my lunch for the field trip... *sigh* Childhood. Tori may be referring to that, or to the fact that kids sniff such markers to get "a buzz." I've never tried this, I think the point is that it has a bit of a fume and your brain will be deprived of a bit of oxygen. Anyone who understands these hijinks more thoroughly, feel free to step in. Anyone know the Beck song "Fume," by the way? Hehe. It's an instant classic. Love and other assorted goodies, Sara Beth xoxoxo "Is there no great love, Only tenderness?" - --Sylvia Plath (you know... Ted Hughes' wife....) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:51:04 -0800 From: "Megasus©" Subject: Re: blue skies ~~Wendi~ wrote: > hi all, > can anyone tell me how many different versions of "blue skies" there are, > and the names of them?? Funny you should ask that... I was just DLing more versions of that today. Here's what I've seen: Blue Skies Album Version Blue Skies Unreleased version (sounds much like the album version with a couple definite changes around the beginning..) Blauer Himmel Mix Deep Dish Blue Phunk Mix Rabbit in the Moon Phantomless Remix Delphinium Days Erinnen Indigo Mix Robbers of Antiquity Alien Disco Mix That's all I've seen... there quite possibly could be more.. I personally like the Unreleased version the most. :) Also.. if you like BT.. some of his other work is really good too.. stuff with Sasha... I heard a song called Ride by them that used the lyrics from Madonna's Material Girl.. he's pretty cool! :) Just thought I'd throw that in... Hope that helps! Bluuuue Skiiiies... are.... in my heeead.... Oh, I have the lyrics to Blue Skies for anybody who might be interested. :) - -- ^_~Megasus~_^ http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ ICQ# 14241089 *~The Divine Princess of the Church of Daughter-chan!~* *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail in.. got enough guilt to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:02:34 -0300 From: Laura Damico Subject: My Tori trip/dream pt.9 Burlington, VE I never knew where Burlington was on the map until I got back to Uruguay...as I had not planned to go there for a concert (not even remotely had the idea) I didn't look it up on the map. I did know where Vermont was...way up north... but anyhow, we got there and I was there with "the Germans" as Richard and Linda went for seats instead of floor tickets. I thought I wasn't going to have a chance to get in as I was like the only one in line without a ticket... Someone told me that they were still selling the tickets just a block away from the venue, so Rurik and I run there... but it turned out that they returned the tickets to the venue minutes before. When they opened the doors I had to buy the ticket right there so I thought I was going to lose my place in line... but thank god they had another door before the stage door, so I run very fast and I still was on a very decent place :-) Carolyn was there and so were the Germans. We got to the front row, but during the concert things became pretty tight and by the end of the show Rurik and I had to share the place in first row. I didn't mind at all... Being behind Rurik and to the right of Michael I had great German dance inluence and we danced like crazy during Raspberry Swirl. It was crazy to see Tori looking just as them both and smiling... She was having a blast and so were we.. Mel and Jenny the german girls were dancing too ..hehe that reminded me that at the pre-show wait by the stage, they were screaming "arriba arriba andale andale" LOL that cracked me up. The germans were crazy and very funny I had a great time with them too :-) Anyhow the show was once again AWESOME... how could she put up one amazing show after another?!?!?! the encores were amazing, she played Honey, and Smells and Amazing Grace... Linda and Richard's songs :-) This was Rurik's last show so we tried to get to the M&G but we run on the exact opposite way that we should have.. we run around the block.. when we actually should've walked like 50 meters to the right.. anyhow we got there and we were in the 5th row but on one side of the barricade. We thought we wouldn't have a chance to even see her, but we patiently waited anyway. When she came out she came right to our end of the barricade and when she started signing stuff for the people on the first rows Rurik told Tori that it was his last show and that he was going home. Tori came a little closer and told him to say thanks to the guys (I expect that to be for the german dancing crew on the first rows + me the uruguayan nutso) because it was a really fun show, and she had a lot of fun. She also told him to say hi to the other guys in germany... right after this I got a couple seconds to say "Tori would you play Flying Dutchman for me?.. tomorrow is my last show" haha, I still remember the look on her face, she looked straight at me with this *big* smile and didn't say a word.. and moved on to the next guy... I *knew* that meant "not a chance" :-) but the smile I got was probably just as good as hearing the song :-) After talking to Tori for the last time it hit Rurik that he was going home, we went and met the others, Mel and Jenny were talking to these very nice girls from Canada with whom I tried to exchange email addresses but none of us had a pen .. Later on I found myself asking Joel for Mr.Puppethead to make an appearance the following day as I was going home and wanted to say goodbye. He laughed and said that he would deiffinetely tell Mr.Puppethead about it. Then Linda asked Joel if she heard her screaming "Mr.fuckin' puppethead" the night before... He started laughing really hard and said "that was you?", he proceeded to tell us what happened... he said that when they heard the screams *all* the people in the bus were trying to see who was screaming that. And that they were all laughing about it :-) I do remember seeing shadows approaching to the window... and I have a picture from that very moment... well it doesn't show much.. just Puppethead saying goodbye... but you'll have to trust me. It was taken the night before in Amherst. I hope I can write the next and last part of my Tori trip before year 2000... besos laura                \\|//                (O-O) - ----------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------------------- ldamico@adinet.com.uy (at home) laura@redfacil.com.uy (at work) http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/3373/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:12:21 -0500 From: Natalie Lockwood Subject: Re: is bfp everyones least fav? (and an intro) Way to kick major a** Alanis and Lauryn! wrote: > though i think there are some songs on bfp > i skip because i don't like them at all (ex: twinkle, putting the damage on) > but i think it's just natural because there are so many songs, they can't > all be as awesome. I LOVE Putting the Damage On! I'm not trying to say that you should like it or anything, though :-) Maybe it's a girl thing, but I could just put that song on repeat and listen to it all day. I think part of the reason I like it so much (besides the fact that I relate to it) is that it's kind of a welcome contrast to a lot of the harder stuff on BfP. I love Hey Jupiter as well, and they're a bit similar in ways. As for my favorite albums/rankings, etc., I really don't think I could choose decisively. There are parts of each album that resonate more strongly depending on whatever mood I'm in at the moment. I'm really digging BfP right now, maybe because I'm pretty stressed out and I need to vent...I don't know. With FtCH, I think that there are a lot of really brilliant songs that are sometimes dismissed or overlooked because of their techno 'disguise'. I'll admit that it did take me a while to open up to those songs (with the exception of maybe Jackie's Strength and Northern Lad), but once I did, I can confidently say that I like FtCH as much as any of the others. Oh.....one more thing: I think this may be my first post to Precious Things. I've been lurking for the past few months. I know a few of you on the list (Mr. Zebra and any other fumblers), but for the rest of you, my name is Natalie and I'm a bit of a newbie. I have all of Tori's albums and everything, though, and I would venture to say that her music affects me as much as it affects most of you older fans. I think I would have become a Toriphile earlier had it not been for the fact that I am only fifteen. I was not at the emotional and intellectual level to be able to truly appreciate Tori's music when I was much younger. Can you seriously imagine a seven-year-old being affected by Little Earthquakes? Tori's music arrived at the perfect time in my life for me to become an EWF, and at least this way by the time I'm in college I'll have been a Toriphile for a good number of years. I realize this has turned into a fairly long post, so I'll end it right here. I'm very happy to meet you all! Natalie ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #77 ************************************