From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #65 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, March 6 1999 Volume 04 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 2 quick things... [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Definitive Tori songs-RESULTS [Thisbe5716@aol.com] Storytellers for Sessions [haves ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Icicle Discovery [Dangalee@aol.com] Re: Definitive Tori songs? ["Mr Zebra" ] Re: nashiki ["Luna 17" ] Re: Definitive Tori songs-RESULTS [gina ] Re: song word definitions [cypresj@compsys.com] Re: song word definitions [Jethro1980@aol.com] Re: Icicle Discovery [skh1 ] Re: words and leather ["Vicki Siolos" ] Re: song word definitions [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: thoughts right now. [Margaret ] Re: song word definitions [Jennifer Lynn Roth ] RE: tori sightings [Jenelle Campion ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Diana ] Re: song word definitions ["an enigma" ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Miss Cornelia Princemedal Subject: Re: 2 quick things... At 03:34 PM 3/4/99 -0600, R. Flores wrote: >1) Did Tori ever do Daisy Dead Petals live? and... Yes, but not on the Plugged Tour. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:53:00 EST From: Thisbe5716@aol.com Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs-RESULTS I have to say, I'm pretty proud of us! You have a great list. I don't know about anyone else, but the reason I didn't include many songs from FtCH is because it is sooooooo different from her other music. I'm not sure that I would appreciate it as much as I do without being familiar with her previous work. As far as a title, how about "A Piece of Her Preciousness"? Amy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:50:41 +0000 From: haves Subject: Storytellers for Sessions OK anyone in the US, I have an extra copy of VH1 Storytellers on video recorded on a JVC Stereo VCR on SP mode available for a nice recorded copy of the SESSIONS and 20/20 broadcasted last month. Let me know. jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:17:09 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? At 02:50 AM 3/4/99 -0500, Richard Handal wrote: >Matthew said: >> This is what I came up with for the definitive Tori: >This is interesting to me. I'm curious to hear the thinking behind leaving >Precious Things off a list such as this. Anyone care to explain why you >felt that way? 'Cause I don't like the song. :) /nad {I know, I know, I have no taste} ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:45:26 EST From: Dangalee@aol.com Subject: Re: Icicle Discovery In a message dated 3/4/99 7:15:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, Pixieqwien@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 3/3/99 7:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, cypresj@compsys.com writes: << She asked me if I knew that in Icicle there's a hymn in there. >> Yeah there is also a hymn in Spark, she sing "Swing low sweet chariot" and something else in the backgroud, it is too muffled to hear.....also I am sure you knew this but Behlula Land is a hymn, my uncle is a southern baptist preacher and I had to sing it in church all the time hehe Carmen-Duessa >> What is the hymn in icicle? and does anyone have the lyrics for the Beulah Land hymn? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:22:17 -0600 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? >This is interesting to me. I'm curious to hear the thinking behind leaving >Precious Things off a list such as this. Anyone care to explain why you >felt that way? *smack*smack*smack* I knew I would leave something important off... *cowering*in*stupidity* Precious Things and Smells like Teen Spirit too. *sigh* :-) Sorry... Matthew People say I'm strange. Does it make me a stranger that my best friend was born in a manger? ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:40:40 PST From: "Luna 17" Subject: Re: nashiki >anyone knows what this means? > >Jenelle It's Nishiki, and it's an extremely nice Japanese racing bike... ~Reagan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:47:50 -0800 From: gina Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs-RESULTS glaring omissions: Flying Dutchman Song for Eric Sister Janet Me and a Gun ( i concur with soraya) Playboy Mommy Landslide (cover) i personally think that almost the entirety of BfP is rubbish--sorry. g. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:24:51 -0500 From: cypresj@compsys.com Subject: Re: song word definitions Somebody said they think that ratatouille is a poison, as in "ratatouille, strychnine, sometimes she's a friend of mine...." but ratatouille is actually a dish of sauteed peppers, zuchini, and squash in a little olive oil. It's French, and I've eaten it. - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:10:20 EST From: Jethro1980@aol.com Subject: Re: song word definitions In a message dated 3/4/99 6:21:09 PM Central Standard Time, Freque79@aol.com writes: << Anne Boleyn was Henry VIII(?)'s 3rd(?) wife. >> I thought maybe yall might like to know this Anne was the second wife. My history teacher taough us a neat way to remember them and it goes divorce - Katherine ( had Mary) beheaded - Anne ( had Elizabeth) died - Jane (had Edward) divorce beheaded I don't remeber these womens names survived Sara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:58:55 -0500 From: skh1 Subject: Re: Icicle Discovery hi! Tasha325@aol.com wrote: > so it is really unknown what she intended. sometimes she opens icicle live > with "onward xian soldiers" but that is definately not the hymn piece on UTP. the hymn used is o for a thousand tongues to sing... ;) ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:25:34 -0500 From: "Vicki Siolos" Subject: Re: words and leather >i think that the part at the beginning of sugar is just tooo cute... tori has >such personality onstage... just thought i'd add that... > >Fellow Faerie Follower >~~RED I was so excited when I found out that the performance of "Sugar" is from the first Tori concert I ever went to. (little tidbit of fact...just thought i'd share:) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:19:29 EST From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: song word definitions Kaiser Willehelm - A leader in German history ( I beleive - a kaiser is a german word for leader, like fuhrer, and I know Willhelm was a general in onoe of the world war 2 army's) Strychinne - Strychnine - a type of poison used to kill rats MonneyPenny - As in Mrs. Moneypenny, from the James Bond movies. It was James Bond's secretary St. John - As in Saint John, one of Jesus' 12 disciples, maybe Muhammed - Mohammed, has two different spellings. A leader of the Islamic people, he founded the Islam religion Ashre - I've heard this word used in a different context before, but I can't remember where. It could be Islamic, I think it's just a name Sheishedo Red - Shiseido Red - I'm assuming a type of red Amsterdam - the city in Holland, notoriously known for it's red-light district and leglaized marijuana Mary M - Mary Magdeline, Jesus' whore Anne Boyln - The woman who gave king Henry VIIIth his only son, and later had her head cut off because the son died, er something. I dunno, but she had 3 nipples and something weird about her fingers. Some people thought her a witch...maybe I'm a witch ;) I hope this helps some =) ~* josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:06:36 -0500 From: Margaret Subject: Re: thoughts right now. hey you know, yesterday I heard thoughts for the first time, and it ended the Songs Written By Tori That I Haven't Heard list... *sigh* if anyone wants a tape of this kind of rare stuff, I do b&ps too... my list and stuff is here http://members.xoom.com/SheSwirls/boots.html you know, just email me and we'll work something out... just want to try and help people hear this music margaret At 12:07 AM 3/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >keith, you are correct is saying thoughts, mary and various other songs >are not easy to find because the singles they are on are no longer in >print. > >since i do have copies of these, if a few of you people who DONT have >lots and lots of tori stuff would like a copy, i'd be happy to make you >a copy if you send me a blank tape with the songs you'd like. > >make SURE you email me first, and let me know what songs you WOULD like >on your tape. otherwise i'll just fill it with all sorts of stuff. i >insist you send me a tape, and preferablly postage. > >spreading tori to all - >~~loria~ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:51:56 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: song word definitions On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, becky wrote: > >Ratatouville - this is a poison No, Ratatouli? (I don't know how to spell it) is a Mediterranean (??) dish of certain vegetables, mainly eggplant I think. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:55:00 -0500 From: Jenelle Campion Subject: RE: tori sightings lemme correct that...the title of the video is Richeous Babes. sorry bout that Jenelle Sweet dreams of once upon a time... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/3288/ > On Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8:38 PM, Jenelle Campion [SMTP:jenelle@ix.netcom.com] wrote: > > I go to Rutgers U in NJ and Douglas College here is one of the largest womens college's in the USA, and every year they have the annual wemons conference. One of the events at this was the showing of a video documentary called Women Rock. It was about females and feminism in pop music. They has a few interviews with tori (mainly concering me and a gun and RAINN) and also some wiht Ani Difranco, Shenade O'conner (sp?), and many others. If anyone else ever gets the chance I highly recommend seeing it, not just for Tori, but it is also a very good documentary on women rocker today. > > > > Jenelle > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/3288/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:39:57 -0700 From: Diana Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? >Bells for Her then qualifies as "not really a song". Bells was an improv >that Eric caught (smart boy) when Tori was fooling around on an old upright >that they had just finished "deconstructing". I really like "Thoughts" >because of the free flow and I like the way it sounds when you have it as >the intro to "Girl". It just really blends well. >Fairy Blessings, >Bethey Isn't that the same thing as Marianne? She just kind of played Marianne one day and then had to learn it. So, I think these all qualify as songs. Diana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:18:41 -0600 From: "an enigma" Subject: Re: song word definitions - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenelle Campion To: Precious Things (E-mail) Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: song word definitions > > >Joe (dimaggio?) >Marylin (monroe?).........yes, these are references to Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe who were together at one time >Muhammed Ali..............a famed boxer >Strychinne.....................Strychnine is a type of poison >Ratatouville...................Ratatouille...and to correct an earlier definition, this is not a poison...it is a kind of soup >St. John........................John the Baptist >Muhammed..................the founder of the Islamic/Muslim religion >Amsterdam...................a city in Holland >Mary M........................Mary Magdalene >Anne Boyln...................Anne Boelyn was the 2nd wife of King Henry the VIII of England. Henry wanted a son to succeed him on the throne. Anne, however gave birth to Elizabeth I. When Anne miscarried a son the following year, Henry believed that she could not give birth to a boy. Henry her charged with adultery, incest, and witchcraft and had her beheaded. Their daughter Elizabeth succeeded Henry's future son, Edward VI, and his first daughter, Mary (Bloody Mary), as Queen. She was known as Elizabeth the Great. So Anne Boelyn played an important role in the history of England. an enigma - ----------------------------------- "Sometimes crucifixes banging on my wall i shake in nerves of barbed wire i rust and i twist and underneath my skin the light is dimming she sells sacrifices while teaching night swimming " - - Pepper Acton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:31:07 -0800 (PST) From: Miss Cornelia Princemedal Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? heyas, in response to Matthew's story of how he got into Tori: > Zebra and my Toriphilia has grown since then. I started out buying Boys for > Pele last summer since it had Mr Zebra on it...and 17 other songs...I > figured that was more economical. But it was a mistake. It took me a long the first time i heard of tori, was on an IRC channel i hang out on.. it was late at night, and people were debating whether or not her piano and musical style was 'classic', and talking about music theory and such. a guy i was dating at the time, had been listening to tori nonstop for a couple weeks, and kept raving about her and how wonderful and great she was (along with the group 'everything but the girl').. so one day while i had some extra cash, i was at Target or Wal-mart or something like that, and i went looking through the music section. i wanted to get either tori, or everything but the girl, since i'd heard neither of them, and he highly recommended them and seemed obsessed with them both.. the only cd of tori's they had there, was boys for pele, so i picked it up, along with the EBTG cd, and tried to decide which to get. i ended up deciding on tori, changing my mind from everything but the girl at the last moment.. wise choice. from the moment that the first notes of Horses started floating (and they did seem to float) out of my stereo, i was hooked. her music, and her voice communicated everything i was feeling, and had ever felt, and it was a total release. i didn't listen to anything else for a good 2 months.. when i bought under the pink. after that, it was little earthquakes, so i guess i ended up going backward, but it worked for me. :) anyways, there's my toristory. - ami ami@blue.netnation.com - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.goldcom.com/~hegemon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:40:48 -0600 (CST) From: Rachael Lydia Cannon Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Keith Shapiro wrote: > > > I've never done one of these song lists, but your story moved me to really > > want to give my imput. I tend to group things in a theme, so bear with me > > please. > > > > 1. Upside Down > > 2. Thoughts > > Good luck with this unless you've got a kick-ass collection. Thoughts is > NOT easy to find. AFAIK it's only been played LIVE once (at least in the > last two tours, yes?) The single that it's on (escapes me at the moment) > but is also .. well .. quite rare. Thoughts is on the Silent All These Years single (mine is the one from England...) - --rae > > > 3. Girl > > 4. Mary > > Again, not an easy song to find the studio version of. UK Ltd. Edition > Crucify, IIRC. You might try to find a version with the band from the '98 > tour. Akron, OH (11/28/98) was amazing. > > > 5. Bells for Her > > This song has been different on every tour. Perhaps wise to use the > studio version. > > > 6. Sugar (studio "dakota"(?) mix) > > 7. Honey > > 8. Black Swan > > 9. Here. in my Head > > 10. Smells Like Teen Spirit > > I think this song is more potent with the American Pie intro. > > > 11. Cornflake Girl > > An EXCELLENT version of this to find would be the one she did on Unplugged > back in '96, I think. > > > 12. The Waitress (Plugged '99 live version) > > You'd have to ask J'ason for which Waitress is *THE* definitive Waitress > from the tour. He could tell you. > > > 13. God > > 14. Sister Janet > > 15. Baker Baker > > 16. Hey Jupiter (Dakota Mix) > > 17. Hello Mr. Zebra > > 18. Agent Orange > > I like this live better. Louisville, KY (10/28/98). > > > 19. Putting the Damage On > > 20. Blood Roses > > 21. Marianne > > 22. iieee > > Find this live. It's sooo much better. :) > > > 23. Pandora's Aquarium > > 24. Merman > > Good luck finding a reasonable quality version of this. Most people don't > have the tools to get a good recording off the PC. I (haha .. you saw > this coming, didn't you) do, and will be making a GOOD sounding HQ mp3 > available shortly. > > > 25. Cooling > > Keith S. > > -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- > Keith D. Shapiro * It's crazy, just thinking, > keither@iname.com * Just knowing that the world is round, > http://take3.dreamhost.com/ * So here I'm dancing on the ground. > AOL ID: kdshap0 * Am I right side up or upside down? > ICQ #1978801 * Is this real or am I dreaming? > ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #65 ************************************