From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #62 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, March 3 1999 Volume 04 : Number 062 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori used on biorythm ["Erika and Alan Lewis" ] Re: Possessing and CG [Frederica Rose ] Re: blue blue dress [PeleBlow17@aol.com] Re: nashiki [Frederica Rose ] re: tori used on biorhythm ["Erika and Alan Lewis" ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Thisbe5716@aol.com] UKJS - again... ["Doron Vidavski" ] Kareoke [Katapilla7@aol.com] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Richard Handal ] song word definitions [Jenelle Campion ] help!!!!! [Jenelle Campion ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? ["Mr Zebra" ] Re: (Tori-boot) Kareoke [Sugarpl415@aol.com] Definitive Tori Songs [cypresj@compsys.com] Re:blue blue dress ["Thomas Mazorlig" ] Anywhere But Here release date [Thisbe5716@aol.com] Icicle Discovery [cypresj@compsys.com] Re: your mail [Rachael Lydia Cannon ] Re: to everyone -Reply [Soraya Quiroga ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [Keith Shapiro ] BMG Music - Tori Interview [Freque79@aol.com] thanks all who helped me! [MadSpark4U@aol.com] waitress plugged [Sarah ] Re: words and leather [PeleBlow17@aol.com] Fw: words and leather ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Re: your mail [honeydew ] Re: Definitive Tori songs? [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: Icicle Discovery [Margaret ] Re: words and leather ["Anya Horine" ] Re: Possessing and CG [Beth Coulter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:45:42 -0500 From: "Erika and Alan Lewis" Subject: tori used on biorythm since it was on, and i saw her name, i decided to listen for tori on jewel's biorythm, now, i am not a jewel fan so this was a hardship ;) anyway, just to let everyone know they used precious things, the begining piano bit and the "aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" over this they had jewel reading her poety... tori's music... jewel's poetry, i dunno about that. they also showed bit of the hey jupiter video, of the little girl pulling tori, it wasn't clear shots but it was interlaced with other images. what do we all think about this considering some of the passing remarks tori has mande about jewel? also they showed some interview and it was like jewel the tori impersonator (i think it was the make-up). anywho if i have offended any jewel fans... well sorry, i just cant abide her, i wont jewel bash, but her album "pieces of me" isnt that a tori lyric, and "these foolish games...." "these precious things..." i know its not exact, but they sound similar, oh yeah and all those horses.... Ok erika stoppit, i shall end my bable here. such an awful waste of bandwith... :) Be Well... Erika :) PS- i was eckerds and heard tori's cover of angie, i asked and the music is the eckerd satilite station. neet huh :) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "so then love walked up to like, and said i know that you don't like me much let's go for a ride " "some things only she knows" -- Tori Amos -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 19:51:53 -0800 From: Frederica Rose Subject: Re: Possessing and CG i have heard that this is also what cornflake girl is about. has anyone else heard this or am i just mixed up? also, if i am right, how does one interpret it? i've never read the book, so i'm at a bit of a disadvantage, but even so, i think i might have a hard time relating cornflake girl to female genital mutilation. love, freddie Sarah wrote: > The book is about an African woman named Tashi. She moves to England > and later to America. She decides to be circumsized late in life to > claim her Olinkan (alice walker made this tribe up) womanhood. The > book is about how this effects her physically, mentally, and > emotionally and also how it effects those close to her. It has no > mention of tori. It is one of Tori's favorite books and there is > reference to it in Blood Roses ('chickens get a taste of your meet', > etc.--it PtSoJ the clitoris and lips of the girls were thrown to the > chickens after they were circumsized). > > hope this helps. > > sarah > > ps~ amazing book i recommend it to anyone. > > ---Heather980@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > As far as remixing goes~the only one I have heard is Crucify, and I > like it > > better than the original. I have heard the Hey Jupiter Dakota > version, and I > > like the original better, and I absolutely LOVE Talula Tornado Mix. > Just > > thought I would add my 2 cents! P.S. This book you all have been > talking > > about, is it all Tori, or just a mention of her???/ > > > > Love Heather > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -- "When this battle is over, I feel I will survive, In the battle of the dragon, no one walks away..." -Stevie Nicks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:12:51 EST From: PeleBlow17@aol.com Subject: Re: blue blue dress Carmen-Duessa mentioned about the "but I have to get to Texas" part in Blackdove. That explaination did make a lot of sense. During the concert I attended she talked about how people go everywhere with them on tour. "They go to Europe, the Mid-West, all over the fucking place." And she said that they always said "We have to get back to Texas." I don't know if that helps but just thought I'd share... Just having thoughts, Charissa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 19:54:30 -0800 From: Frederica Rose Subject: Re: nashiki for anyone curious... it's nishiki, and it's a brand of bicycle, and maybe motorbikes, too, but i couldn't be certain. love, freddie Jenelle Campion wrote: > anyone knows what this means? > > Jenelle > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/3288/ - -- "When this battle is over, I feel I will survive, In the battle of the dragon, no one walks away..." -Stevie Nicks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:00:09 -0500 From: "Erika and Alan Lewis" Subject: re: tori used on biorhythm i humbly apologize, i meant "pieces of you" which is not exactly a tori lyric but I was in a random babble rant (at times like these I should just be ignored) :) Be Well Erika - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "so then love walked up to like, and said i know that you don't like me much let's go for a ride " "some things only she knows" -- Tori Amos -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:13:09 EST From: JayMGee@aol.com Subject: words and leather EWFs, Hi! I have a couple questions. Okay, on the Hey Jupiter Single or EP or whatever, on the live Professional Widow, Merry Widow version - which I just have to say that I love - I can't make out what an audience member says. Tori says "Okay, if you're wrong, you won't loose you're head. Don't worry." Then it sounds like some guys says "it hurts" or something, then she says "yeah" or something. But, a few seconds later, a woman yells something and Tori says "very good, you're gonna need to" I think, and a few people think it's funny. Well, since I can't understand that woman, I don't know what's funny. Does anyone know what the woman says or why it's funny? Okay, my other question is kinda more of a request. I love "Leather" and I love to play the piano. I love the piano solo in the middle there, but I can't find the music for it anywhere. Okay, actually one time somewere online I found a scanned sketch of the music which I couldn't make out for the life of me and that just drove me crazy. But anyway, I would really love it if someone knew of somewhere I could get this - especially a website or something. Don't break your back or anything, cause it's not, like, really important or anything, I would just love to have it. Thanks! :-) Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:48:40 PST From: "Phillip Neckfooter" Subject: Blue SKIES! Hi, Can someone email me with the lyrics to blue skies, please! Or could you point me in the direction of where i could find them. phillipg thanks "Hang 10, uH Hang 10 uh HOney, Im GOnnA go where she GoEs!" ThE WaiTRESS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:12:18 EST From: Thisbe5716@aol.com Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? Whoops! Ok, let's try this again.... here's my list: 1. Little Earthquakes 2. Tear In Your Hand 3. Upside Down 4. Winter 5. Smells Like Teen Spirit 6. Song For Eric 7. Baker Baker 8. A Case of You 9. Famous Blue Raincoat 10. I'm On Fire 11. Caught A Light Sneeze 12. Putting The Damage On 13. Honey 14. Frog On My Toe 15. Cooling 16. Here. In My Head 17. Bachelorette 18. i i e e e 19. Merman 20. Never Seen Blue Ask me again next week! Who knows what I'll say. Amy ** Show me the things I've been missin - "Yes Anastasia" ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:41:12 BST From: "Doron Vidavski" Subject: UKJS - again... Right, Finally, we are going to get Jackie in the UK! Eastwest's press office say that they are awaiting final confirmation of the dates but it seems likely to be out on the second Monday in April (nearly a year after the release of the previous single here, Spark). No tracklist is yet to be confirmed. BUT, if Prof Widow was so huge here I don't see why the remix of Jacks shouldn't follow its sibling to the top of the charts (not of pain...). At last... Doron. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:31:54 EST From: Katapilla7@aol.com Subject: Kareoke Hello i was wondering if anyone had just a tape or cd of tori kareoke that they may have made or something. I think at kareoke bars they have tori songs to sing along to just wondering if anyone had anything like that. I just want a tape or cd of the music of a few songs that i could sing too. kat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 05:56:56 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? Beth Coulter said: > I've never done one of these song lists, but your story moved me to > really want to give my imput. I tend to group things in a theme, so > bear with me please. I didn't really have time for this, so I'm glad Beth did such a good job. The only songs I would add are Precious Things (a killer version from the plugged tour such as the Knoxville show would be my choice), and Frog On My Toe. BTW, I would consider Precious to be the quintessential Tori song from the first three albums, had I the need to choose one. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:13:25 -0500 From: Jenelle Campion Subject: song word definitions ok i know this list is kinda long, but im looking for just straight definitions or fact references to these words Tori used in BFP. Im trying to set up a dictionry of terms and phrases she uses as some for of reference material for us all. Any help would be greatly appreciated. You can reply on or off list. Milkwood Silkwood Superfly Joe (dimaggio?) Marylin (monroe?) Muhammed Ali Kaiser Willehelm Strychinne MonneyPenny Ratatouville St. John Muhammed Ashre Sheishedo Red Amsterdam Mary M Anne Boyln Thanks again and ill let you all know when the site is finished Jenelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:47:15 -0500 From: Jenelle Campion Subject: help!!!!! Hi all, sorry for hte double post, but im looking for someone. We had set up a trade a few weeks ago and i had offered to make her/him video copies of tori an MGS in NYC on 7-28-98 and in philly on 4-26-98. If your out there please contact me, i lost your emails. Im so sorry for all this confusion. Thanks Jenelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/3288/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:58:20 -0600 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? I was actually thinking about this (and writing them down) and various other Tori tapes I could make the other day in class. :-) This is what I came up with for the definitive Tori: Silent All These Years Winter Pretty Good Year Cornflake Girl Father Lucifer Spark Here. In My Head Playboy Mommy iieee Me and a Gun Past the Mission Caught a Lite Sneeze Tear in Your Hand Jackie's Strength(ORIGINAL...LOL) Doughnut Song Raspberry Swirl God Waitress Mr Zebra (sorry, I just had to :-) Those are the songs that I think everyone should know...Tori fan or not. Matthew Lucifer's really someone who wears white and is a woman and drives an ice cream truck. ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:05:16 EST From: Sugarpl415@aol.com Subject: Re: (Tori-boot) Kareoke thats kinda funny. you know how at nordstroms they have ppl that play songs on the piano. (like old ev\levator musicish songs) they played cornflake girl one time i thought it was hilarious/\..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:11:12 -0500 From: cypresj@compsys.com Subject: Definitive Tori Songs Here's what I believe are the most important Tori songs for anyone to hear. I made the list upbeat enough to catch a listener on at the beginning of the tape (this is a tried and true opener for Tori in my experience of getting new people hooked: Cornflake Girl). Once you hook 'em with fabulous fast music that really rocks, then they are open to listen to the slower songs, and the ones I've selected are very melodic and not TOO abstract (well, it's all abstract, right? but still...) - -jen 1. Cornflake Girl 2. Take To the Sky 3. God 4. Thank You 5. Smells Like Teen Spirit 6. Putting the Damage On 7. iieee 8. Icicle 9. Liquid Diamonds 10. Crucify 11. Raspberry Swirl 12. Silent All These Years 13. Bells for Her 14. Angie 15. Purple People 16. Caught a Lite Sneeze 17. Blood Roses 18. Doughnut Song 19. Springtime of His Voodoo 20. Little Earthquakes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 05:34:18 PST From: "Thomas Mazorlig" Subject: Re:blue blue dress Carmen-Duessa writes: >... Someone said that in >her saying "I've got to get back to texas and give away my blue blue dress" >could have been in relation to the movie Thelma and Lousie. ......and she did this because she didnt want to deal with past >memories of her being raped...so relating to Tori they said that they though >that Tori was interpreting that to get married she had to go back and deal >with those memories "get back to texas"....wade through that first.... Wow!! Thelma and Louise is one of my all time favorite movies and I always think about it when I hear that line but thought it was just coincidental. I'll have to really look at it closely. On this topic, months ago someone posted a really good interpret of "Black-Dove" that linked it gettting out of an abusive relationship. Could that person either post it again or send it to me privately? I think that the song really is about that, especially because when I saw Tori in Ithaca, during this song she changed "never let on how insane it was" to "never let on how insane he was". OK, that's all for now. Tom "We own nothing, nothing is ours Not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars But this poverty is our greatest gift The weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift." Emily Saliers, "Everything in Its Own Time" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:35:57 EST From: Thisbe5716@aol.com Subject: Anywhere But Here release date Hi all! I was wondering if anyone heard anything about the release date of the soundtrack for "Anywhere But Here" being pushed back? We get a magazine at work that lists upcoming releases for the next two months. The soundtrack was listed in the magazine last month, but it's not in there this month. Usually, if the release date for an album is changed or pushed back, they list it in a special section, but there was nothing about the soundtrack there either. I'm confused! Does anyone know what's up???? Thanks!! Amy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:28:51 -0500 From: cypresj@compsys.com Subject: Icicle Discovery One of my friends is a newbie and only has listened to Under the Pink. She just got it this week and she's, of course, addicted. She's a Southern Baptist, so she had heard that Tori was anti-Christ, etc., but she says she's really surprised to hear how spiritual Tori really is. She asked me if I knew that in Icicle there's a hymn in there. I never read that on this list or anywhere else, so I'm guessing no one's mentioned it yet. She can't remember the name of the hymn, but the chorus to the hymn is in Icicle and some of the words go something like, "'Tis not enough that Jesus died, but that He died for me." When she hums it, it sounds a lot like "Jesus is the rock on which I stand, all other ground is sinking sand," if any of you remember that hymn. But the melody is SLIGHTLY different. The part in Icicle where this hymn shows up is in the intro. There's 3 separate piano melodies in the intro, as you all know, and the hymn is the second one. If any of you know the name of the hymn, speak up! - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:39:35 -0600 (CST) From: Rachael Lydia Cannon Subject: Re: your mail On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Easter the Cat wrote: I think the line you're thinking of goes *something* like: "Turning back, ten thousand years, its all a blur. . . " from ode to the banana king - --ra > > Subject: RE: odd names > > CC: > > X-Mailer: My Own Email v3.0 > > > the line you mentioned that sounds familar sounds liek the > line from "Ode ot the Banana King" part one. i dont have the > lyrics off hand, but you cpould find them on any search > engine easily. hope this helped. > *Cat* > ----------------- > Original Text from "Jenelle Campion" > > > > >In the bootleg Rare Tracks and Covers who ever named the > songs didnt > >knowthe real names and made them up (i guess). One track > is called People > >Turned Away, which i assume is down by the seaside. But > there is another > >track called Fifteen Hundred Years and i cant place what > it really > >is....can anyone help me out? > > > >thanks > >Jenelle > > > > > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/ > > > ~~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ > HOMEPAGE: http://welcome.to/The_Hotel > ~~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ > ICQ #: > 15455527 > ~~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ > " i guess i'm an underwater > thing so i guess i can't > take it personally..." -Liquid Diamonds > > "i need a big loan from > the Girl Zone." -Caught a Lite Sneeze > ~~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ > > > _____________________________________________ > Get your free personalized email address at > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:44:14 -0600 From: Soraya Quiroga Subject: Re: to everyone -Reply Crazy crazy...I finally bring Miss Badu to work and was just listening to the live version of "On and On" when this thread came up...Erykah Badu is incredible. I went to high school with her here at the Performing Arts High School in Dallas (think "Fame" :-P). Anyway, Tori fans should do themselves a favor and check her out. They are quite different performers. Badu sounds a lot like Billie Holliday and her music is very jazzy and soulful. As far as a duet, hmm...I don't know. I love Miss Badu but I think she'd find Tori a little weird. I mean, in "On and On" she sings, "If we are made in His image then call us by our name...most intellects do not believe in God but they fear us just the same." And Tori sings, "God sometimes you just don't come through." Badu is as adamant in her belief in God as Tori is about questioning religion. Correct me if I'm wrong :-) >>> "Shaigirl 19/f" 03/02/99 09:41pm >>> - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "spark" >>>she could make a duet with Erykah Badu or something Okay... now I hardly ever comment on anything anyone ever says. But damn... this post got to me. As I was reading it, I could actually picture our Tori (who's very soulful herself) duetting with Miss Badu. Some of you non-diverse people may have never of heard Erykah's music, but it's *very* personal, soulful, and enlightening just like Tori's. In fact, now that I think of it... they're very simular, with the exception of Miss Badu being R&B and Miss Amos, umm... okay, so she's married now, but still... being Alternative (or whatever it is that people refer to her as now). Take "On & On" for example... wouldn't Tori's voice, strength, and piano be great there? Hmm... or "Next Lifetime"... that's a song about a relationship... which Tori is very good with expressing emotions about that through lyrics *and* music. ANyways... I just thought that whoever posted that had a VERY interested suggestion. Any comments??? Shaigirl 19/f * shaigirl79@hotmail.com AOL IM: Shaigirl79 * ICQ#: 7032035 My So-Called Life * http://glenmar.com/~mmb **~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~** "So don't give me respect don't give me a piece of your preciousness... I can be cruel I don't know why." -Tori Amos "I'm like a cat... the kind that feels what she decides to feel when she's good and ready to feel it." -Ani Difranco ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:33:27 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Shapiro Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? > I've never done one of these song lists, but your story moved me to really > want to give my imput. I tend to group things in a theme, so bear with me > please. > > 1. Upside Down > 2. Thoughts Good luck with this unless you've got a kick-ass collection. Thoughts is NOT easy to find. AFAIK it's only been played LIVE once (at least in the last two tours, yes?) The single that it's on (escapes me at the moment) but is also .. well .. quite rare. > 3. Girl > 4. Mary Again, not an easy song to find the studio version of. UK Ltd. Edition Crucify, IIRC. You might try to find a version with the band from the '98 tour. Akron, OH (11/28/98) was amazing. > 5. Bells for Her This song has been different on every tour. Perhaps wise to use the studio version. > 6. Sugar (studio "dakota"(?) mix) > 7. Honey > 8. Black Swan > 9. Here. in my Head > 10. Smells Like Teen Spirit I think this song is more potent with the American Pie intro. > 11. Cornflake Girl An EXCELLENT version of this to find would be the one she did on Unplugged back in '96, I think. > 12. The Waitress (Plugged '99 live version) You'd have to ask J'ason for which Waitress is *THE* definitive Waitress from the tour. He could tell you. > 13. God > 14. Sister Janet > 15. Baker Baker > 16. Hey Jupiter (Dakota Mix) > 17. Hello Mr. Zebra > 18. Agent Orange I like this live better. Louisville, KY (10/28/98). > 19. Putting the Damage On > 20. Blood Roses > 21. Marianne > 22. iieee Find this live. It's sooo much better. :) > 23. Pandora's Aquarium > 24. Merman Good luck finding a reasonable quality version of this. Most people don't have the tools to get a good recording off the PC. I (haha .. you saw this coming, didn't you) do, and will be making a GOOD sounding HQ mp3 available shortly. > 25. Cooling Keith S. - -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- Keith D. Shapiro * It's crazy, just thinking, keither@iname.com * Just knowing that the world is round, http://take3.dreamhost.com/ * So here I'm dancing on the ground. AOL ID: kdshap0 * Am I right side up or upside down? ICQ #1978801 * Is this real or am I dreaming? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:03:03 EST From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: BMG Music - Tori Interview Okay, so I just received my regular BMG package, which includes a little catalog of CD's I can order. I always look for Tori in there, even though I already have all of her CD's, just to see if they have her. Well, as I saw that she was not listed in the Alternative page as usual, I started cursing BMG for being a crummy company, then I turn the page and -- p. 9's BMG Interview is with TORI AMOS! And for those of you who are smart enough to stay away from BMG, I will copy the interview for you... Just to warn you, it's an alright ariticle, but there are the obligatory Kate Bush and miscarriage questions... Oh well. Since she emerged in the early '90s with the confessional "Little Earthquakes" and the impressionistic "Under the Pink," Tori Amos has been renowned for her idiosyncratic piano style and challenging lyrics -- but 1998 finds ger ready to rock with her first band-oriented album, "from the choirgirl hotel." Rolling Stone writes, "Amos comes clean with the rock & roll that's always driven her," while Spin praises, "She's that rare rocker who can build a racket not out of dissonance but through euphonic intensity." BMG Music Service recently had the opportunity to speak with this fascinating songwriter about the new experience of playing in the band. BMG: On "from the choirgirl hotel" you chose to play with a band for the first time. Did playing with a band change the way you approach your material? TA: The new songs were written with a band in mind, but it's interesting because some of the older tunes are getting different arrangements now that I have a band. There were certain songs like The Waitress and Precious Things--ones with clear rhythm--that became easiest to adapt to a full band, others were a little more difficult. BMG: Is playing in a band an evolution for you, a step up from playing solo piano onstage? TA: No, not a step up, just a step. I think that knowing I was planning to bring rhythm with me into these songs, I wanted a real band behind me--not a studio entity--to jazz them up. I didn't care about being polite or politically correct, that's not my style. I thought, if I'm going to do this, the piano has to be integrated, and yet not lost in the mix. I didn't want to do a folkie read on anything either because I'm not a folk artist. I knew when I did a noisy record like this, that kick drum was gonna have to be in your stomach. BMG: Now that you're playing music with a band, the comparisons to musician Kate Bush come up even more frequently. What do you say to those comparisons? TA: Those comparisons have come up since before I was 18. She's always been there. She came before me. You respect those who've come before you and she was great at what she did. I feel I took control of my record this time like she did too. When I walked into the studio the first day, I asked the engineers about all the buttons they had on their machines. "Do they do stuff?" So "stuff" was something I was ready to do. After "Boys for Pele," when I took the piano and harpsichord to the church to record, I knew I was ready for this bigger experience. BMG: You've said that your miscarriage proved to be a powerful tool in the writing of the new record. How so? TA: After my miscarriage, I was in shock. I had been in Mommy mode for three months, I thought I was "out of the woods" with the pregnancy, before it was all taken away. I started asking questions at the time about whether I was paying a debt to someone for this. People would say, "It's God's will," or "Things like this happen for a reason." Then I started wondering, "Where do souls go when they leave the planet?" I'd chase down any deity to get some answers. It was at that time when I was asking all those questions that the songs just started to arrive on my doorstep. BMG: How do songs come to you? In complete form, or piece of piece? TA: Sometimes I get one bar or two bars, then I have to spend nine months chasing the rest down. I believe that the songs already exist and you pull them down from the sky when you're in a position to see them. Because of my experiences--the ones that make up me--I'll use different symbolism to make those songs distinctly my own. After that, the rewriting and editing are constant. Jackie's Strength and Hotel came to me as siamese twins. The chorus of Jackie was really the chorus of Hotel so I had to pull them apart. Hotel actually came with three choruses (as hotels do). It took a whileto realize that Jackie was a different (song). [Mairie's note: I think she said "girl" and not song, but the editor of the catalog thought that was abstract or obscure, or just downright quirky, and it was editted to (song).] BMG: You've been touring constantly since the release of the album last spring. What's next for you? TA: I think there will be a live and b-sides compilation, with nine or ten years of material represented in one kind or another. Some of the things aren't fleshed out enough. I wanted a break from having my work, my writing, put under the microscope one more time. That can be exhausting. The End. I hope you enjoyed this!!! :] Mairie http://members.xoom.com/pianoqueen/ Ode to the Piano Queen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:20:52 EST From: MadSpark4U@aol.com Subject: thanks all who helped me! Hey All Thanks so much to the people who e mailed me with their song advice!! That was my first time posting and was completly crazed. You guys really rock!! Rabbits and Candy!! Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:56:22 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Subject: waitress plugged the waitress (plugged of course) was definitely a highlight for me it's amazing you know. so i was wondering where i could find some mp3's of it anywhere even if they're just the improvs or whatever. anything!! i just love to hear them!! sarah _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:53:32 EST From: PeleBlow17@aol.com Subject: Re: words and leather This what I hear and I'm pretty sure it's correct: person #1: "You can do it." Tori: "Ok, if you're wrong, you won't loose your head. Don't worry." person #2: I can't understand him either. "Rehearse." mayhaps?!? Tori: She just kinda laughs. "Heh." or something person #3: "We love you anyway." Tori: "Very good, you're gonna need to." Another woman says something else after that, but it's kinda long and I can't understand it either. Hope that helps some. :) You're just to used to my honey now, Charissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:48:58 -0600 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Fw: words and leather > Hi! I have a couple questions. Okay, on the Hey Jupiter Single or EP or >whatever, on the live Professional Widow, Merry Widow version - which I >have to say that I love - I can't make out what an audience member says. >Tori says "Okay, if you're wrong, you won't loose you're head. Don't worry." I think someone says "you can do it" > Then >it sounds like some guys says "it hurts" or something, then she says "yeah" >or something. But, a few seconds later, a woman yells something "But we love you anyway" is what i hear. >"very good, you're gonna need to" I think, and a few people think it's funny. >Well, since I can't understand that woman, I don't know what's funny. Does >anyone know what the woman says or why it's funny? Its not funny just cute. :) The terror couple, Daisy Melanie and Lenny Green daislen@wctc.net "If your mind isn't open, keep your mouth shut too." - --Sue Grafton, M is for Malice "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - --Issac Asimov, Foundation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:33:46 -0600 From: honeydew Subject: Re: your mail Rachael Lydia Cannon wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Easter the Cat wrote: > > I think the line you're thinking of goes *something* like: > "Turning back, ten thousand years, its all a blur. . . " > from ode to the banana king > Original Text from "Jenelle Campion" > > there is another > > >track called Fifteen Hundred Years and i cant place what > > it really Actually its not Ode to the Banana King, its "THOUGHTS" the lyrics to the part you are talking about Jenelle goes likke such: "thoughts right now i picked up a magazine ooh here we got fifteen hundred years right here burning witches buring books burning babies in their looks" So there ya go :) Danica - -- If everything is coming your way then you're in the wrong lane. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/tori/realm.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/ - - mental.block [danica's personal site] *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:13:37 EST From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: Definitive Tori songs? In a message dated 99-03-03 19:37:44 EST, kdshap0@sac.uky.edu writes: << Thoughts is NOT easy to find. AFAIK it's only been played LIVE once (at least in the last two tours, yes?) The single that it's on (escapes me at the moment) but is also .. well .. quite rare. >> it's on the Silent All These Years and Me and a Gun UK singles, both very rare. I got the Silent All These Years for $34 dollars from Esprit International, in London. As far as it not being played a lot, that's probably because it's not REALLY a song. Tori was having a really hard time recording 'Girl', so she sat down and started palying it. It has a lot of the elements of Girl in it, as far as lyrics go, and is really very short. Anyways, she was playing it, her anger vented, and Eric said "that's a cut" and so it got released as a B-side, but is more of an improv than a song. And as far as I know as well, it's only been played once in the last two tours, as an opening to her solo act at Akron, OH during the plugged '98 tour. I don't even think she played the whole thing. Hope this helps. ~* josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 21:09:58 -0500 From: Margaret Subject: Re: Icicle Discovery Yeah, I've known about this, its called O for a Thousand tongues to sing (although, once on a different mailing list someone mentioned that it was a different hymn) (and I'd desperately love the lyrics) umm... she mentioned it in an old interview with RDT... i have the snippet up at my site (Which is in the works--be kind!) http://fly.to/swirl later margaret At 09:28 AM 3/3/99 -0500, you wrote: > > > >One of my friends is a newbie and only has listened to Under the Pink. She just >got it this week and she's, of course, addicted. She's a Southern Baptist, so >she had heard that Tori was anti-Christ, etc., but she says she's really >surprised to hear how spiritual Tori really is. > >She asked me if I knew that in Icicle there's a hymn in there. I never read >that on this list or anywhere else, so I'm guessing no one's mentioned it yet. >She can't remember the name of the hymn, but the chorus to the hymn is in Icicle >and some of the words go something like, "'Tis not enough that Jesus died, but >that He died for me." When she hums it, it sounds a lot like "Jesus is the rock >on which I stand, all other ground is sinking sand," if any of you remember that >hymn. But the melody is SLIGHTLY different. > >The part in Icicle where this hymn shows up is in the intro. There's 3 separate >piano melodies in the intro, as you all know, and the hymn is the second one. >If any of you know the name of the hymn, speak up! > >-jen > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:15:47 -0900 From: "Anya Horine" Subject: Re: words and leather I believe it goes something like (audience member)"You can do it!" (Tori)"Okay, if you're wrong, you won't loose your head. Don't worry" not sure about the "it hurts" quote (I don't have the cd handy) (Lady yelling)"I love you anyway!" (Tori)"Very good, you're gonna need to" I think that part is just too cute. It's one of my favorites. Hugs N' Stuff Anya >EWFs, > Hi! I have a couple questions. Okay, on the Hey Jupiter Single or EP or >whatever, on the live Professional Widow, Merry Widow version - which I just >have to say that I love - I can't make out what an audience member says. Tori >says "Okay, if you're wrong, you won't loose you're head. Don't worry." Then >it sounds like some guys says "it hurts" or something, then she says "yeah" or >something. But, a few seconds later, a woman yells something and Tori says >"very good, you're gonna need to" I think, and a few people think it's funny. >Well, since I can't understand that woman, I don't know what's funny. Does >anyone know what the woman says or why it's funny? Okay, my other question >is kinda more of a request. I love "Leather" and I love to play the piano. I >love the piano solo in the middle there, but I can't find the music for it >anywhere. Okay, actually one time somewere online I found a scanned sketch of >the music which I couldn't make out for the life of me and that just drove me >crazy. But anyway, I would really love it if someone knew of somewhere I >could get this - especially a website or something. Don't break your back or >anything, cause it's not, like, really important or anything, I would just >love to have it. Thanks! :-) > >Jeremy > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:42:29 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: Possessing and CG At 07:51 PM 3/2/99 -0800, Frederica Rose wrote: > >i have heard that this is also what cornflake girl is about. has anyone >else heard this or am i just mixed up? also, if i am right, how does one >interpret it? i've never read the book, so i'm at a bit of a >disadvantage, but even so, i think i might have a hard time relating >cornflake girl to female genital mutilation. love, freddie > >Sarah wrote: > >> The book is about an African woman named Tashi. The part of the book that affected Tori so, was the fact in the culture, *mothers* took their own *daughters* at 10 or 12 to have this (genital curcumcision) done to them. Mothers giving their girls over to butchers who removed all chance of pleasure and sewed them up. These women weren't doing this out of kindness. It was a generational betrayal. What was so moving about Tashi's eventual decision was that she was not *forced* to undergo the procedure, she went volunterally out of a misguided sense of loyalty to a (patriarchal) custom and culture. Tori took out of this the meaning that women *will* betray women to their very core for little reason at all and that she (Tori) doesn't think it should be that way. That women should be loyal to women above all. That if there is one person you can trust, it's going to be a your girlfriend, someone the same gender who can truly understand. But too many times the one person you are supposed to be able to trust (as in Possessing; mothers) taking you and hurting you or leading you to be hurt with their full knowledge. Now folks, go read the freakin books so you can understand. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated at least monthly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #62 ************************************