From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #60 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Possessing the Secret of Tori [BIueHour@aol.com] Re: Father Lucifer and his magic Beenes. [MoneekaEWF@aol.com] preety good year [Jenelle Campion ] blue blue dress ["Erin Martin" ] in need of some tori... [Black Dove ] Thoughts on the Waitress [Vincent Reyna ] Re: odd names ["Plain Jane" ] lyric comprehension ["Meg Harris" ] Re: Tori News (The Cranky Greg Mix) [Ken Tough ] Possessing and CG ["Fiona Mcmillan" ] Jackie's Strength Remixes ["Thomas Brasch" ] storytellers video [Jeffrey Clark ] ...with your very own... ["spark" ] Re: Possessing and CG [Heather980@aol.com] looking for a noble soul... ["spark" ] tori at grammys and preshows [the ] Re: Tori News (The Cranky Greg Mix) ["Luna 17" ] Re: lyric comprehension [NerrrdGirl@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:03:20 EST From: BIueHour@aol.com Subject: Re: Possessing the Secret of Tori gina clicked: <> that is such a cute observation.....hehe.... sorry, it just made me smile. :) leyna noel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:52:24 EST From: MoneekaEWF@aol.com Subject: Re: Father Lucifer and his magic Beenes. In a message dated 2/27/1999 10:46:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, betheqt@voicenet.com writes: << Nancy Shanks, Tori's best friend and once upon a time backup singer. Isn't there a PT FAQ around here people? ;) >> hey...is this the blonde that is pictured frequently in the Plugged '98 tour book?? thanks mon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 03:53:34 -0500 From: Jenelle Campion Subject: preety good year Does anyone know the story behind this song conserning Greg? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/3288/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:10:39 -0500 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: blue blue dress Hey! I was just at a website that SPARKed a thought: ok, most people have said that the "blue blue dress" line in Black-Dove was her wedding dress. I was just thinking: what if it's the dress she wore in the SATY video and LE artwork?? Like she's giving away her silence in this journey she's making to/from the other side of the galaxy. I have a lot of thoughts on the song but I'm too sleepy to tell them now. ;) So good night... Blessed be, Erin *** Hey, you!! ICQ me: 25510450 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:56:32 -0800 (PST) From: Black Dove Subject: in need of some tori... Hi.. i ask this constantly, but if ANYONE has copies of 9/11/98 seattle key arena show, 94 seattle show at the seattle opera house, or the 96 seattle show w/o tiny dancer i will be very generous in a trade. i also am looking for a high quality video tape of the 54th sessions. please feel free to look at my sight so that we can set up a trade. siren - --------------------------------------------------- Visit my web-page for GREAT TORI BOOTS! @ Http://www.angelfire.com/wa/toriamoss "The thunder only wants to be the snow" -Tori Amos- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:42:22 -0600 From: Vincent Reyna Subject: Thoughts on the Waitress Toriphiles Could the Waitress be a more reflexive song than we think? Is there really another Woman in the song? Maybe Tori was imagining herself as this 'Other' waitress, The Tori that had been doing the job for that 'future' year. Could this explain the exposition at the end of the Sessions 54th, I believe in her, and all. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:51:20 EST From: "Plain Jane" Subject: Re: odd names oui that's from thoughts fifteen hundred years.... burning witches burning books burning babies and their looks yes indeed. barb. > > >>But there is another track called Fifteen Hundred Years and i cant place >what >it really is....can anyone help me out? > > >Isn't that from "Thoughts?" > >I'm almost positive. > >Are the first two lines "Thoughts right now...I picked up a magazine...?" > >loveintori, >Vicki >ToriPyro@aol.com >"oh look...carkeys! bye!" - Ani - >will work for sex: >http://travel.to/desolate.winters > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:50:02 PST From: "Meg Harris" Subject: lyric comprehension Hi! I'm fairly new to the list... and I usually enjoy just reading comments and questions... however, now I have perhaps what may be an ignorant question. "Precious Things" is an all time favorite of mine. However, there is a phrase that I don't think I am getting the total meaning behind... "With those nine inch nails and little fascist panties tucked inside the heard of every nice girl" - although, no one may be able to determine the EXACT meaning of what Tori meant, in ignorance, I ask what this means. Sorry for the stupid question, sometimes my brain needs help. Of course, I have a vague idea, but sometimes true meanings escape my mind because I am looking too hard (if that makes sense) Any comments?????? - -CirclesAgainMeg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:03:51 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: Tori News (The Cranky Greg Mix) Richard Handal writes >What I'm trying to say is that the album version of Jackie has not been >diminished in any manner by virtue of it having been remixed into dance >versions. All the copies of the choirgirl albums and the regular singles >in peoples' record collections do not shrivel up once the remixes are >released. The only problem I see is if someone hears mainly the remixed >versions of a song and it becomes what the song is for them at the mental >exclusion of the original version. That seems something of a pitfall to >me, but hey--if someone is inspired by hearing a remixed song to check out >the original version, I say that's only a good thing. Or as is sadly the case with BfP, a great album track (In the Springtime of His Voodoo) is removed and replaced by a remix (Star Funkin'...) as a "special edition", which becomes the defacto standard version in all record shops. Looks like ItSoHV is set to become collector's fodder, nearly. I suppose marketing-wise, if the special version is widely available here and the normal version in the U.S., then it can only increase the desire for money-making imports. For the listener that only discovers the "special" version though, it does spoil the artistry of the album. - -- Ken Tough Cornwall, U.K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:43:57 -0000 From: "Fiona Mcmillan" Subject: Possessing and CG Hi everyone. My internet access has been cut way back so I don`t get much of a chance to send/receive mail :-( but I thought this may help. I got these Tori quotes from a UK Tori fanzine, Peach Party Dress. "I really started looking into these relationships between women, and how we treat each other. Originally `Cornflake Girl` was influenced by Alice Walker`s `Possessing The Secret of Joy`. The part that really nailed me to the wall was where the mothers take their daughters to the butchers to have thier genitals removed" "To think that a woman, whos been mutilated herself , to take you to become mutilated, she`s been through it and this is all in the name of what`s best for you" "It`s not the fathers that take the girls, that`s the thing. You see the lack of responsibilty again, and the deepest betrayal" "When I read it, I was just raging" Hope that helped! I also am totally against remixes of Tori, or in fact remixing full stop. If people like the remixes, thats fine, but I don`t. In my opinion, remixing is just taking an excellent track (eg PW) and making it available to those who can`t understand Tori, in order to make money. Love in Tori, Fiona McMillan PS Amy, that was classic! "She`d probaly burn it anyway". It`s SO true. Tori, we all love U, and the Grammies suck. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:30:27 -0500 From: "Thomas Brasch" Subject: Jackie's Strength Remixes Does anybody know if these are available in Canada yet...specifically Toronto yet...I'd like to get it but we're always a bit behind. Please write to my personal address since I don't always get a chance to look at the Tori Amos lists...I know it should be my priority. Tom +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + How's your Jesus Christ 'bin hanging? + + - Father Lucifer + + (tori amos) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:56:28 -0500 From: Jeffrey Clark Subject: storytellers video Is there anybody out there who has a decent quality copy of Storytellers that they would be willing to make copies of? I missed both showings of it because my father was in the hospital, and I was never able to be home, and I'd love to get my hands on a tape of it. Jeffrey Clark - ayukawa@twcny.rr.com http://home.twcny.rr.com/alliance Systems Coordinator, Sorrow's Sphere http://www.mad-cow.com ICQ #1361234 "They say goldfish have no memory, I guess their lives are much like mine, and the little plastic castle is a surprise everytime..." -Ani Difranco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:42:35 +0100 From: "spark" Subject: ...with your very own... ...devoted satelite. i guess you all know about this,but just to make sure. pretty fuckin' amazing and beautyful Tori's watching your every move! sparkie spark@eunet.yu __________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a (small) satellite named after Tori Amos (12 kg), that was lauched on the Ariane 502 into orbit (600 km from Earth at closest point, 26000 km at farthest), and will orbit Earth for hundreds of years. If you don't believe it, check our webpage or do a web search to e.g. "TORI, satellite, Ariane" She was a great motivation during the project (that was to connect TORI by a tether to another satellite, YES). Hope you can do something with this fan news: also (some) engineers can appreciate good music! ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:54:15 EST From: Heather980@aol.com Subject: Re: Possessing and CG As far as remixing goes~the only one I have heard is Crucify, and I like it better than the original. I have heard the Hey Jupiter Dakota version, and I like the original better, and I absolutely LOVE Talula Tornado Mix. Just thought I would add my 2 cents! P.S. This book you all have been talking about, is it all Tori, or just a mention of her???/ Love Heather ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 00:12:57 +0100 From: "spark" Subject: looking for a noble soul... ... and a noble one indeed.i'm a newbie,as some of you might now,and i don't have ANYTHING tori regarding on video.soon,i'll get those 3 video-cassettes that are official releases,but i NEED more. i need storytellers,20/20,sessions and what ever you come up with you think is interesting (and you have it). now,the humain part of this is the fact i live in Serbia the Neverwhere.that ,of course,means i'll pay all postage needed and an extra blank cassette(s) for The One who is able/willing to do this much of a favor to me. maybe i should have post this to Tori-Boot list,but i know some of you guys,so i'm more comfortable (meaning:i'll find my victim faster :-[ ). maybe i expect too much,but then again,... .... hmm,i don't know what's the point of this sentence. ^5 and love to all(please,post soon) spark@eunet.yu or 1800-take pitty on me ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 99 17:26:24 MST From: the Subject: tori at grammys and preshows does anyone know if tori will be at the grammys? i'm supposing she will not present since someone would've know about that... also...if she does...i know mtv, vh1, and e! are having preshows...anyone know if any of the stations repeat these later on? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:13:12 PST From: "Luna 17" Subject: Re: Tori News (The Cranky Greg Mix) Does anyone just like the subject of this one? Maybe I'm just too easily amused... love, Reagan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:26:13 EST From: NerrrdGirl@aol.com Subject: Re: lyric comprehension first of all, there are no stupid questions, only stupid answeres : ) and everyone^Öwell, me at least^Ö has many times when they find it hard to understand tori's lyricsat times... but i think that line is talking about the social circles of teenage girls in highschool and about the snobby "popular" ones who excluded the narrarator in the song...she's saying that outside they're all very nice girls, but inside they've got an evil spirit... whichi is "tucked inside the heart of every nice girl love rachel ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #60 ************************************