From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #23 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, January 24 1999 Volume 04 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- snow cherries from france [Rob Gueli ] Re: bumper sticker... [Charlie Poole ] introduction [Frederica Rose ] Re: Pandora, other last songs... [RHPSshock@aol.com] Re: The Dent/A Realm of... ["Ken Peterson" ] fs: tori's birth certificate [gina ] HJ, CALS, and death [RHPSshock@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #22 [Amazon8502@aol.com] the secret commonwealth [cinders blue ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:14:10 -0500 From: Rob Gueli Subject: snow cherries from france does anyone know anything of a song called "snow cherries from france" that is supposedly one of tori's favorite songs written for 'choirgirl'? ...rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Re: bumper sticker... On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Melanie Lynne Starke wrote: > Hey everyone! I was wondering if by any chance someone knows of how I > could get a Tori bumper sticker??? If there is a web site that sells > them, please let me know I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Lana Helm and Francesine Hiltz are making bumber stickers. I don't know if they have them up on their website yet. Be good to yourself, Charlie - -- Subscribe to the Tori and Everything Else mailing list. Send an e-mail message to toriandmore-subscribe@makelist.com or subscribe from http://www.findmail.com/list/toriandmore/ C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance with sad. --Tori Amos I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:03:09 -0800 From: Frederica Rose Subject: introduction some of you may recognize my name from the tori boot list, but i just joined this list and i thought i'd introduce myself. i'm frederica, everyone calls me freddie and i'm a freshman at the university of california, davis. i've been a tori fan ever since i heard crucify when i was 11. that was right after little earthquakes was released. of course being young and stupid i didn't really start collecting or paying much attention to her music until shortly before boys for pele came out and ever since i have tried to get my hands on all things tori. my favorite song by her is probably bells for her, but like all of you, i'm sure, different songs speak more to me at different times. i have been to 5 tori shows-- 2 ddi shows at the greek theatre in l.a. (my home town) on june, or was it july? 29th and 30th, and 3 plugged shows-- nashville tenessee, august 25 at the grand ole opry, arrowhead pond in anaheim, early september, i believe, tenth row seats, baby!!! (that's the closest i've ever been to her so i get a little excited, and september 23 at the greek theatre again. other musical interests are stevie nicks, bjork, led zeppelin, beastie boys, switchblade symphony, ani difranco, fleetwood mac, blondie, bob dylan, the doors, the beatles, joan baez, joni mitchell, portishead, kate bush, and many others, but i'm sure you are tired of me by now if you've actually even bothered to read my self-indulgent introduction. love to all, freddie - -- "Bells and footfalls and soldiers and dolls, brothers and lovers she and I were. Now she seems to be sand under his shoes-there's nothing I can do. Can't stop what's coming, can't stop what is on its way."-Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:35:02 EST From: RHPSshock@aol.com Subject: Re: Pandora, other last songs... In a message dated 1/22/99 11:51:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, softplaces@softhome.net writes: << persephone lost her daughter to hades for 6 months (?) out of every year and grieved so much for those six months that she created winter.>> Ummm...just a little correction...Ceres (I think this is the Roman name...I'm in Latin class and tend to forget the Greek) was the mother of Persephone who was lost to Pluto (Hades). I look at it as her saying "I am NOT that weak little thing who got lost and ate the pomegranate. You can't take advantage of me." -Angelina. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:13:26 -0500 From: "Ken Peterson" Subject: Re: The Dent/A Realm of... *snip** > I really wish there could be something that we could >do to support them and help curb the financial cost that they are >spending. I can not think of something that would be both successful >and helpful for them. I really belive that something needs to be done >and would like to ask if anyone has any good sugestions. We could A) donate some $$ or B) have a Tori Auction for them? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:53:46 -0800 From: gina Subject: fs: tori's birth certificate i found something truly disgusting on the internet. somebody is auctioning a photograph of tori's actual birth certificate. i'm not certain if this is illegal (it should be), but it certainly is a violation of privacy and shows incredibly poor taste at the very least. i have written a letter of protest to ebay, but that's not the point. i feel tori's management should be contacted, as this may be a matter for their legal department. do people understand boundaries? or is everyone willing to scoop up her shit and sell it online? g. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:11:43 EST From: RHPSshock@aol.com Subject: HJ, CALS, and death I just read a booklet by Tori that says what her videos are about, and what they mean to her. (I found it on the Dent.) At one point, Tori says that she physically died in both HJ and CALS. I think this makes a lot of sense. BfP came after the big breakup, and perhaps Tori didn't want to live anymore. I know from personal experience that a big breakup can leave you feeling hopeless, empty, and with no will to go on. (I'm sure many of you know that too.) I never even thought for a second that Tori was dead in HJ. I thought the little girl had come to save her. But now that I've watched it again, Tori is already dead up there. The little girl has come to take her to the other side (an angel?). That explains a problem I had with it- wouldn't the little girl get hurt? Not if she's an angel...and it also explains why nobody saw them come out of the building. I assumed Tori was playing with different looks with eyeliner, but it does make her look, well, dead. So, she and this guy break up, and she kills herself. She looks peaceful in the car (or maybe she's annoyed at the bouncing girl.), so she found solace in her death. I think the CALS video came out before HJ, but I look at HJ as a prequel to CALS. She died in HJ, and now comes the afterlife. This video makes more sense to me as well. I'm not sure this is heaven, but perhaps somewhere you go before you go to heaven/hell. I think that's what the whole fight with the chair is about. She is torn into several people, all wanting to do something different with their future. Also, I now realize why there were mourners in the video. Before, I thought they were just another random, abstract, piece. But then, why would Tori ever do something without a reason?! Thank you for reading my babbles. I knew someone would. Love, Angelina. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:45:00 EST From: Amazon8502@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #22 Hi there, I was just going through my Tori stuff and came across something that I almost forgot I had. I was wondering if anybody else got this with your From the Choirgirl Hotel CD. A record store here in Houston offered a Limited Edition lithograph for the first 500 who purchased the new CD. Its a long lithograph and it is just one of the pictures from the inside sleeve. Is this really a Limited Edition? Alessandra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:58:44 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: the secret commonwealth toriadores, knowing that many precious-things subscribers are interested in the faery folk, i thought i'd let everyone know that an edition of _the secret comonwealth_ is now on the web, in its entirety, at . this book, written by robert kirk in the late 1600s is a landmark text on gaelic faery beliefs and lore. kirk, a scottish minister, was deeply interested in faery beliefs and, interestingly, concluded that there was no contradiction between this belief and the practice of christianity. woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #23 ************************************