From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #21 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, January 22 1999 Volume 04 : Number 021 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Pandora other last songs... [Jason Bilsky ] Re: icicle, hey jupiter vide [cypresj@compsys.com] Spark vinyl single ["Capriccio 191" ] more help? ["Jacqueline Starr" ] Pandora, other last songs... [robin cole ] Re: empty cage [Amy M Belden ] Mary? [Sarah ] bumper sticker... [Melanie Lynne Starke ] Re: Tori earrings...answer. [Melanie Lynne Starke ] Re: she's leaving home [Melanie Lynne Starke ] new Tori Amos site with great Real Audio archive!!! [talula Subject: Re: Pandora other last songs... Little Water Nymph wrote: > the list. I'm interested to see what some people think: > > Tori has said that "Pandora's Aquarium" was the first song to come to > her when writing for FTCH. Why do you think she made Pandora appear > last on the record? yes, but it's the *first* song listed in the lyric book. I've used my CD burner to make a version of FtCH that has the songs arranged in the order they appear in the lyric book, and believe it or not, it makes it a better album. Before, it was a disjointed jumble of songs, when rearranged, it becomes a consistent narrative. Try it yourself... IMO, the lyric book was the proper order. Atlantic/EW rearranged the tracks in order to make it more "accessible". Chalk it up to another f*ck-up on Tori's management's behalf... - -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "If every cigarette you smoke takes seven minutes off of your life, then every game of Dungeons and Dragons you play delays your loss of virginity by seven hours." -Marilyn Manson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:01:31 -0500 From: cypresj@compsys.com Subject: Re: icicle, hey jupiter vide On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:22:46 -0500 Erin Martin wrote: >Has anybody ever thought about Edie Sedgwick and the hey Jupiter video? ...I >know Edie was in several hotel fires. ...she always wore a lot of eye makeup >and rode everywhere in limos. Please refresh my memory. The name sounds familiar, but I can't remember who Edie is. Thanks! - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:43:21 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Spark vinyl single If anyone wants the Vinyl single I have a copy of it at home and we still have one copy of it in the store I work at. They are 2.49 each, so if anyone wants I'll take that plus postage or I'll trade for a '98 boot. (Cassette copies, not CDs...don't wanna rip anyone off.) For Atlanta people, that's Spin Street music if you want to rush out and get it. :) Jenn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:13:12 PST From: "Jacqueline Starr" Subject: more help? hey everyone... first off, as usual, i apologize for crossposting. are there any tapes out there of the Wallingford, CT or the Cleveland, OH shows from Plugged '98? a friend of mine is looking to obtain them if possible. i figured i'd post here and see if any of ya could help. she's looking to either trade or just do a monetary thing. i'm not sure what she has so you'll have to take that part up with her. her email address is: sony@brown.edu and her name is Beatriz. any help would be GREATLY appreciated. thanks much. -jackie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: robin cole Subject: Pandora, other last songs... Heidi wrote: "Also, I think this may just be me, but I was thinking about the last songs on each of Tori's albums and they almost work like a predictor for what the next album is about..." Heidi! You're so astute! I too have thought about the lasts songs on each album. At first, I noticed that the last song from each one was a song that I didn't particularlly like at first, but really got into after a while. Usually, if it's a Tori song, I'm in love with it after the first few measures, so not immediately liking a song really stuck out to me. Then I started to wonder why it was always the _last_ song (after four albums, it doesn't seem like a coincidence anymore), and the only thing I came up with was that the thing they all have in common is that they are different from the rest of the songs on their particular album. I figured since they were different from all the other "new" songs on the album, I just wasn't ready to really hear them until the other songs weren't so new to me anymore. So when I read what Heidi wrote, it just clicked. I agree, I think they are songs that really belong to the upcoming album. Thanks for sharing your insight, it makes perfect sense to me. Robin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) From: Amy M Belden Subject: Re: empty cage I was reading some of the interpretations to Crucify, and a little thought popped into my head. What if she is making a statement relating to her father and what he wants of her life. I know that my dad puts pressure on me to get a good education so that I can get a well-paying and reputable job, etc., etc. I remember hearing Tori say, "My father would have really liked me to play religious music." There are obviously some religious overtones here (i.e. the word "crucify"). As a child, Tori was geared towards being a classical pianist. I'm sure that her parents had some kind of idea of what kind of person they wanted her to become, otherwise they wouldn't have enrolled her in such prestigious music schools and drowned her in religion. What I am getting at is this: what if Crucify is partially a cry out to her father/parents saying that she needs to be her own person (not what they want her to be). She says, "nothing I do is good enough for you," which could be taken literally in the sense of not meeting up to her parents/the Peabody Institute's expectations of her. Also, "just an empty cage girl if you kill the bird," could mean that if she had gone along with all of the desensitizing of her individuality (brought on by her parents/religion) in her childhood, her inner-self would have been killed off (leaving an "empty cage" of a person). She would have been void of her own thoughts, beliefs, dreams, and desires. And of course, "Crucify" refers to sacrificing yourself for other's expectations of you. Anyway, just a few thoughts to stir things up. Thanks for reading - feedback is always great! Sorry it's so long. In Tori, Amy, the choirgirl >I actually think of it as you as a person, your an empty cage if you >kill your passion in life, Crucify to me is when you crucify yourself by >denying pleasure to yourself or deny fulfilling your dreams... >That we think we deserve to be miserable so everyday we crucify >ourselves by going to work in jobs we may not like, doing things we >don't want to do because we feel we deserve to be unhappy. >- -Anne > >Rob wrote: >I always thought it was about Christianity. That the bird >was Jesus and so it's an empty religion. But now I'm kind of thinking >it's more about the person as a whole. That if you kill your spirit, >that you're basically just walking around without a purpose... - -- Amy M Belden ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:24:59 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Subject: Mary? I'm trying to find Mary on cd. I know it's on the UK crucify single. Is it on any other cd's or cd compilations that you can still buy? sarah _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:21:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Melanie Lynne Starke Subject: bumper sticker... Hey everyone! I was wondering if by any chance someone knows of how I could get a Tori bumper sticker??? If there is a web site that sells them, please let me know I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Melanie "Love does not conquer all things, but it does set all things right." -- Marianne Williamson http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/RashawndeetricusandtheBoy/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:44:11 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Melanie Lynne Starke Subject: Re: Tori earrings...answer. I have found the answer! mon at MoneekaEWF@aol.com let me know of this web page (so give her the credit...). It's http://members.aol.com/yessaid/Earrings.html Yeah! Melanie :) On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 Talulagrl1@aol.com wrote: > << Has anyone else (as crazy as I am) noticed this? >> > > well tori stopped wearing thoses earrings in the bfp era. > and so it can only be assumed that eric had given them to her. > and of course after they had broken up she took them off. > > "Love does not conquer all things, but it does set all things right." -- Marianne Williamson http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/RashawndeetricusandtheBoy/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:16:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Melanie Lynne Starke Subject: Re: she's leaving home Here is where the lyrics are... http://www.home.aone.net.au/evos/dan/tori/covers.html#shes_leaving_home Hope that helps! Melanie On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Plain Jane wrote: > > hi.. > > i'm a having alyric dilemma again. > does anyone have the lyrics to she's leaving home? > > email me if you do :) or know where i can get them > > thanks. > > Barb. > > _____________________ > she is always > and never the same > _____________________ > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > "Love does not conquer all things, but it does set all things right." -- Marianne Williamson http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/RashawndeetricusandtheBoy/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:20:35 +0300 From: talula Subject: new Tori Amos site with great Real Audio archive!!! Hello EWFs! I want proudly present you my new view and conception of site TARP: Tori Amos Russian Pages. www.music.volkov.ru/toriamos you'll find here now English version! You can see, read, and download! We opened there great Real Audio archive of Tori Amos's songs, you can order any song and we'll find it for you . This archive will grow all the time. Even now we have about 50 Mb of files. Also, soon we'll open Online Shopping center, and we'll be glad if you'll do some buys from TARP :) Please, write about us, post in new-groups, link on us from your sites (we'll do the same - just write us about linking), tell all your friends about us. WElcome to Tori Amos Russian Pages (now in English too :))))))) with Love and Respect, web=mistress Leila Best regards, Talula mailto:talula@mail.ru ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:10:12 EST From: ShellyNH@aol.com Subject: icicle Hi Toriphiles, This is my first time writing and I am not even sure if I am doing this right, but I guess that I will find out. Like most of you, I am in love with Tori. I have adored her voice and all of her brilliant talents ever since 6th grade. She has helped me through a recent bad experience with her words and hypnotizing beats that I have grown to rely on in a way. Sometimes, I dream of meeting her, but I know that if I was ever given that opportunity I would just cry my brains out. She is so important. Now back to the main point of writing- Pigs wrote that "when spring marches in" refers to flowered dresses on old ladies. I always thought that line refers to how spring is a time for rebirth. I always thought that icicle was about Masterbation(sp) and about finding herself in a physical way. "And when my hand touches myself I can finally rest my head and when they say take from his body- I think I will take from mine instead" Well, I just wanted to get that off my chest. I remember reading about Tori being hated, and I don't agree with that. I believe that the definition of hate has been all screwed up. To me- hate is a form of fear, and I think that those who don't reconize Tori by choice are just afraid of getting drawn into Tori's deep thoughts. I heard in a movie once that people are always afraid of what is different. Tori is definiantly unique. We love her. "If you never fell on your face, then I don't want to know you" -Tori Amos Luv all the Faeries, Shell ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #21 ************************************