From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #348 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, October 2 1998 Volume 03 : Number 348 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori music books [Talula4876@aol.com] oh no! (roseanne taping) ["Jennifer Pajak" ] Rochester show HELP!!!!!!! ["Jessica Hoag" ] Tori on Rosanne [Simon Booth ] Tori on Roseanne ["Heather Parsons" ] Tori and Barbados [Khloegirl@aol.com] Re: Bouvier ["Kristin Carl" ] Re: Fw: Ice cream [Anavrin560@aol.com] Barbados ["Ockle Zine" ] Re: Never seen blue ["Honey Drops" ] looking for Tori tv apperences [PoetGrrlAC@aol.com] did anyone notice Beulah, Colorado? ["Mikey :- 0" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:47:18 EDT From: Talula4876@aol.com Subject: tori music books Does anyone know if tori has or will be coming out with a FTCGH music book. i'd LOVE to learn Jackie's Strength and many others. I know she has Tori Amos Anthology and it has Spark and Northern Lad. If anyone knows anything let me know!! Thanks elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:44:49 PDT From: "Jennifer Pajak" Subject: oh no! (roseanne taping) Hey there- I feel SO stupid right now. I have been taping that Roseanne show every day this week and of course, FORGET to tape it today! If anyone is willing to copy this for me I will gladly supply a blank tape, sase, etc. thanks so much, jennifer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:59:48 -0700 From: "Jessica Hoag" Subject: Rochester show HELP!!!!!!! I live in Derry, NH and I really really want to go to the Rochester, NY show at the Eastman theatre. The show is on my 18th birthday and it would mean alot to me to go. Is there anyone who could buy me 3 tickets to the show? I will send you the money. I really want to go, Someone please help, thanks. *JESS* Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:09:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Simon Booth Subject: Tori on Rosanne Yes, she really was on the show today :) I think it was great that she was given the time to talk about RAINN, I wished the other shows would do that. It was really upsetting to hear the experiences the women talked about. A friend of mine was raped in 1993 and it took her 2 years just to talk about it. When she told me about it I would always get upset thinking about it and wanting to do more to help her. Until I had heard 'Me And a Gun' a few times and realized I had helped her all along, just by being her friend and being able to listen, just to be there for her to talk to. After seeing the show today I really want to do more, I really want to help. Would it be out of line for a guy to ask about volunteering at the local rape crisis center? I was able to help my friend and I really would like a chance to help others. Simon (pardon the seriousness of the post) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:12:25 PDT From: "Heather Parsons" Subject: Tori on Roseanne Ohmgiod, I cannot stop crying... I was fine until they went to a commercial, and then Tori was immediately up and embracing the girl who had been gang-raped. I just couldn't stop crying after that. It's still on, she just finished "Jackie's Strength", and I am really hoping they will show the performance of "Me and a Gun" that the woman on the Dent said was done. Of course, then I'll just go into hystiercs probably... This was what I have been waiting for--Tori in a TV interview that was heartbreakingly honest and just TORI. Whenever she's on other shows, the host is too busy talking to really listen to what she says, and to let her have that insight. I didn't like Roseanne at the start of the show, but with Tori--she actually took pains to UNDERSTAND what she was talking about, y'know? God. And they didn't treat her rape as "something that happened to you." It was the most eloquent Tori show I've ever seen. [Ohmigod, they ARE showing it...] I've never seen the experience of her rape treated with so much respect and passion. Tori tells stories in print that don't translate as well when you're looking at her. Her eyes are often what tell the story, and so whenever I've read about her rape...I was horrified but what she went through, but you couldn't really SEE how it affected her. Maybe I'm not making sense here, but all of these years I've seen her perform "Me and a Gun"...or even listening to it on LE...I wanted so much to FEEL it, and something was either holding me back from doing just that, or perhaps it was because I just didn't understand. Maybe I still don't. I've seen her twice on the last two tours, and have sat in complete silence during that song, but I never cried, not like other audience members. I wanted that connection, I guess, but not in that horrifying way. But her performance of the song just now made me sob. It's the first time "Me and a Gun" has reached out and grabbed me by my hair in her ragged red dress and smeared make-up and said, "This is what happens to people. This is a world where the dark side is suppressed in its natural form, and therefore has to come out in a violent rage. This is a world where things *happen* for no other reason than to shape who we are, and the only way we can survive is to try and reach out to that tiny fragment of hope and strength...and just because you have never experienced it does NOT mean you do not bear part of the responsibility of becoming enraged by this." I had to turn the TV off after it was over. I'm just sort of sitting here, mulling it all over. To be honest, I thought I already knew all there was to love about Tori, but today's showing...I'm floored. My entire perception has changed, and how a tv show did that, I don't know. I will never listen to "Me and a Gun" the same way ever again, and I am forever, eternally thankful for that. Lastly (I'm really sorry this was so long), I only had one tiny gripe, and that was Roseanne's intro of Tori with, "She's turned her trauma into three platinum albums." That cheapens it a bit, don't you think? But the rest of the show was so extraordinary, that to point that out seems a bit petty. I can't wait to read what everyone thought of it... Heather "And all the angels, and all the wizards black and white, are lighting candles in our hands..." (Sister Janet, Tori Amos) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:16:27 EDT From: Khloegirl@aol.com Subject: Tori and Barbados I just had to comment on this- Did anybody who watched Roseanne happen to notice that right after Tori sang "Me and a Gun" they cut into a commercial for Barbados? Was that a universal commercial or was that just local? I thought that was a bit freaky. That's all. As you were. K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:03:53 -0700 From: "Kristin Carl" Subject: Re: Bouvier Hi, everyone. I have a question about Jackie's Strength. In the line...A bouvier till her wedding day... What does bouvier mean? Virgin? Kris Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://www.thedoghousemail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:40:19 EDT From: Anavrin560@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Ice cream In a message dated 10/1/98 2:19:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cmckinley@earthling.net writes: << I thought I read in some book or article that she liked chicken flavored ice cream, am I just crazy or what? Was it in the all these years book? >> um I think maybe you're thinking about an issue of the Sandman comic book. The character Delerium (kinda Tori inspired :-)is talking about ice cream flavors no one's ever thought of before like chicken and telephone ice cream. "green mouse was the worst" :-) carol :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:43:00 PDT From: "Ockle Zine" Subject: Barbados OK, I was showing my boyfriend the Roseanne show, and after me and a gun ended I let the tape go on...and IMMEDIATELY following was a commercial from the tourist board of BARBADOS. AND the tag line was something along the lines of "it's better than your imagination." Very very weird. So here's my question. Was this a local (Boston) occurance? Or was this commercial tied to the syndicated Roseanne show? Everyone, check your tapes! My bf suspects that possibly the tourism board was told that "This singer sings a song and mentions Barbados in it." I told him I didn't think so, but what a weird coincidence. feeling strangely strange and disconnected marlantigone g. ps I made the niftiest addition to my web pages...and I can NOT get it to upload to tripod. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr(l?) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's grammar lesson... ~~*~*~*~*~It's = It Is, Its = the possessive~*~*~ http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone (random home page) http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone/toriboot.htm (trade list) http://members.tripod.com/~marlantigone/ockle.htm (Ockle zine page) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:05:36 PDT From: "Honey Drops" Subject: Re: Never seen blue i love Never Seen Blue too ... i was wondering is the raspberry swirl out in the states? i keep hearing about the lip gloss version of rs ... i just got the jackie's strength enhanced cd .. oh also did anyone ever buy the ALTERNATIVE christmas songs cd ? i looked at my new columbia house magazine and it listed tori's name as one of the perfomers on that cd ...also what song was on it ? so anybody knows please e-mail me ... >To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org >Subject: Never seen blue >From: cystuhler@juno.com (Callie Y Stuhler) >Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:39:31 EDT >Reply-To: cystuhler@juno.com (Callie Y Stuhler) > > >Has anyone noticed that the intro on Never Seen Blue (a song I'm >currently in love with) sounds like the intro to "I'm on Fire" (the Bruce >Springsteen song) that Tori did on either a VH1 or MTV Unplugged show >back in '96 (or that she's performed in concert, although she may have >changed the intro for that song since) > >Callie > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:50:53 EDT From: PoetGrrlAC@aol.com Subject: looking for Tori tv apperences hiya peoples, sigh. my Tori tape was taped over last night, and i didn't get to tape roseanne today. i need a new copy of her apperences, and i had pretty much everything on tape. unless it was *, i had it. the * items i didn't get, but wanted anyway. anyway, if you can make me a copy of a tape with most, preferably all, of the below apperences, i will pay cash or trade posters. please e-mail me for my trade list, or to agree on a cash deal. here's my list: E! Gossip Show (April 8)* Letterman-Spark (April 10) MTV Spark Premeire (April 22) MTV Spark Interview ( April 24) MTV News 1515 (May 1, 2, 3) Artist Cut (May 2 & 14) HBO Ole "Live From New York" Special (May 2, 1998)* CNN Showbiz Today (May 7) Leno-Spark (May 11) E! News Weekend (May 23 & 24)* Box Talk (June 1998)* E! Gossip Show (June 2 & 6)* CNN Worldbeat (June 20) ABC Independence Day Concert (July 4) Letterman- Jackie's Strength (July 27) MuchMusic Spotlight & 1998 Live Interview (July 23 & 25)* Conan O'Brien (August 7) Jackie's Strength Video (August 16) VH1 Before They Were Rockstars III (August 25, 26, 29, 1998 MTV Video Music Awards ( September 10) Jay Leno-Jackie's Strength (September 17) Ultrasound-The Tori Philes (September 27, October 4) Roseanne (October 1) Silent All These Years Pop-Up Video(premeired on August 15, rerunned though August and September, I know for sure they were rerunned on September 17, 22, and Oct. 1) *- I didn't have it the first time, so i wouldn't mind if i didn't have it now, but i would be more flexible to making the deal if it was there. so, if you can make me a tape of this, please e-mail me to set up a trade. i do not want the entire episodes (i.e. not the full hour of letterman, just Tori and interview, just the part on roseanne from where she introduces Tori to the end, etc), just the Tori parts. thanks! peace, manda c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:54:38 PDT From: "Mikey :- 0" Subject: did anyone notice Beulah, Colorado? hey there tori fans...it's me princess mikey again...! *smile* well i just finished watching roseanne, and i absolutely loved it...she looked so beautiful, even with a little extra weight that so many love to comment on *sarcasm*, sheesh, anyhoo, she was radiant, i loved what she was wearing, and she was anything but boring like she thinks she is...i was really happy with the entire interview by roseanne, i've learned to see roseanne in a different light since watching every day at 3 since last thursday to see if tori would be on...and her show isn't half bad, it's not how i thought it was going to be...anyway, i noticed that her second guest...the guy who built his own castle or whatever...was from Beulah, Colorado....and i was thinking "hey Beulah Land..." so i dunno it was just a thought, and a coincidence i guess that tori happened to be roseanne's next guest after him...i really got into the three women who shared their rape stories, i can also relate with them, it's horrible how so many people in this world have had an experience with being sexually abused...anyway, it was really sad i was crying for all of the women, especially when they went to commercial break, and i saw tori jump out of her seat and go embrace the 18 year old girl to comfort her...and then tori went on to perform "jackie's strength" beautifully as always...and after they went to commercial i was almost posotive that they wouldn't show "me and a gun" i thought maybe she had only performed it for the audience and not on air...but whne they came back...i saw tori in front of the microphone once more and i started streaming tears down my face...it was so emotional to watch her sing that song, i had never seen her sing it other than on the "little earthquakes" video...and it was awesome...i even noticed roseanne tearing at watching tori...it was all very touching! tori is the greatest i love that woman! okay well i hope you enjoyed my little sTori.... *smooches* **ta ta smooches tootles luv ya sweethearts** ~*MiKeY*~ *~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~: michael "mikey" pinell homepages: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8368/ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/p/r/i/princessmikey.html email: mykal69@hotmail.com or princessmikey@geocities.com aol screename: PriNcSsMkY "she's yr cocaine, she's got you shaving yr legs, you can SuCk anything, but you know you wanna be me so, put on yr make-up boy, yr you're favourite stranger, and we all like to watch so shimmy once and do it again...if you want me to boy i could lie to you, you don't need one of these to let me InSidE you" - -tori amos- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #348 *************************************