From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #275 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, August 4 1998 Volume 03 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- There are evil people out there. Tori Site offline for a while ["Nephilim] Re: Tori Live [Katie Meeker ] tori corner back up., tori poll results, and tori book update ["Nephilim"] RE: See the Jackie's Strength Promo scans ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] Re: Tori and celebrity deathmatch??!!!! [Toriamos1@aol.com] Boston concert [kytiara majere ] northern lad [mmc22@cornell.edu] Thief Among Us ! [voodoo@mail.delanet.com] The tori corner merman takeover ["Nephilim" ] Re: Jackie's Strength/Raspberry Swirl singles [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Pregnancy Clue? ["Scott A. Kenney" ] Tori Lithograph ["Mika Bennet" ] Merman MP3 [ToriPyro@aol.com] Need help in Austin ["Hector Hernandez" ] Re: Jackie's Strength/Raspberry Swirl singles ["Mike Gray" ] New Mexico EWF ticket camp out? [Cheryl Pike ] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [Katapilla7@aol.com] April 25th club concert pics [kytiara majere ] April 25th club concert pics [kytiara majere ] Little Earthquakes Australian Promo Cassette For Sale ["DirtyFishyDish" <] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [A Faerie ] need what tori is selling list [RsberySwrl@aol.com] Re: Re: Pregnancy Clue? [Nothing769@aol.com] Tori in Springfield [Michael Curry ] springfield [woj sven-woj ] Re: 1994 tour info [woj sven-woj ] i believe in peace [Nothing769@aol.com] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [PANG223@aol.com] Re: Pregnancy Clue? ["Scott A. Kenney" ] Re: Springfield show [Richard Handal ] Getting Tickets the day of the concert [Beth Coulter Subject: There are evil people out there. Tori Site offline for a while Okay So anyhow, you all know, that I had merman up on my site for people to download in Mp3 format. I had the file on a different server, in geocities. i also gave the password to that server for those who wanted to ftp it, since downloading could take so long. well.. i got this little email today... >Alex, you should be smarter than printing the password for your Geocities >account on the net....someone could come along and take it over.....HEHEHEHE. >let me say i really like your site. i'm a big tori fan, but how stupid could >you be. i hope people don't go to that site often......i changed it around a >bit. it could be embarrasing. Basically this person, took over that geocities account. and did a really nasty thing to it.. none the less. he or she. linked back to my site.. therefore my site is leaving the net for a couple of days until i can move it. i have no way of getting the geocities password again. he/she changed the email address on the account and everything. so even if i request it, its not coming back to me. what pisses me off the most is that i had merman up for people to appreciate it, and not its all fucked up. and i have to changed all the links, and move the whole damn site. i dont know who this person was, or if they knew me. whoever they were, they are an asshole/bitch. their email address was Takeitover@aol.com go figure it had to be an aol person.. no offense to aol ppl out there. i am not going to bother to reply to this person. im not that type of person. i hope he/she gets back what they have coming towards them someday. i guess sometimes it doesnt pay to be a nice guy oh this is the url where merman was so you all can see what he/she did... http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cabana/5856/ i hope to change the links asap, i will update when it is done.. for now the site is vanished. if anyone has any suggestions on what can we do to this person, let me know. thanks alex ps. the tori book is no longer taking submissions. an update on the book will come soon - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 12:37:00 -0700 From: Katie Meeker Subject: Re: Tori Live Toriieee (raven) wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone can help me out here. I'm looking for a copy of Agent Orange and Way Down live. Way Down live is on the boot Sweet Old England as an I just wanted to comment on this...the intro certainly isn't "Way Down" even if it is listed as such on Sweet Old England...and I wouldn't consider it an "improvisational" sort of thing either...Tori sings the part of the song that you wouldn't hear live if she sings "so sure we were on something your feet were finally on the ground" over and over...the lyrics are printed in the Under the Pink booklet, starting with "so sure those girls now are in the Navy..."... as for finding Agent Orange or Way Down live, I wouldn't be much help for you...sorry... Katie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:21:00 -0400 From: "Nephilim" Subject: tori corner back up., tori poll results, and tori book update hello again ppl, In order not to be associated with that awefull page that guy/girl did, i changed some links around. he didnt destroy my site, i dont know if thats how it came across in the previous email, he just messed with the part of it that was in geocities, which was only merman. Merman will no longer be offered at the corner, its been there for 2 months already, and anyhow, it should be released on the jackie's strength single soon. i dont think this loser will be updating that page's links to work with mine. at least i hope not. anyhow...The tori corner is back up and running.. all i have left to do is change the links on ubl, and the tori exchange. but all the rings have already been done. There is a new poll.. for august. these are the results of last months poll... Which Tori album has the best b-sides? Little Earthquakes (34) 40% Under the Pink (26) 31% Boys for Pele (18) 21% from the choirgirl hotel (7) 8% 85 Total Votes Also, the Tori book has received approx 110 entries. of some of which are larger than one page, therefore tori's book will be over 100 pages !!! I will let all know when it is available online. the new url for the site is http://www.concentric.net/~nephilim/toricorner.html so update your bookmarks you can still go to the site by typing.. http://come.to/tori.corner thanks for all your support and your letters take care all alex - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:07:22 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: RE: See the Jackie's Strength Promo scans >Hi.. Hey there Mike, >I got two copies, because a friend had said they wanted one, and I paid for >both (obviously) - when the friend decided they didn't want it, I put it up >on e-bay, with a starting price of $3 and a reserve of $10 - which I would >have accepted! It's not my fault that people started getting silly with the >bidding! Agreed. I have checked that page during the last week and it is crazy... I would not use it never in a million years. If you really really really wanted an item you might end up paying 3x more of what it originally costs just because someone went overboard with his offers. >So I'm not getting rid of it, I still have one, I'm still a Toriphile, I've >not been posessed and turned into an evil dealer! Promise! Just for the record, I did not imply that since you were looking for someone to sell it to, you were not a Toriphile. I consider myself a Toriphile and still do not care for promo items at all, except maybe for those with extra songs, like the RAINN Retrospective CD (with the "Twilight Mix" of "Putting The Damage On"). "Rapsberry Swirl" is going to be released commercially, and frankly, that's enough for me. >Anyway, I sent infinitely better scans than that to MikeWhy, so with a >little luck, you'll see them on "The Dent". Looking forward to seeing them. Thanks. Giovanni http://come.to/corncity PS. Mike, I'm sorry that I forgot, but are you the same person that a few weeks back posted something about finding the "Cornflake Girl" UK Limited Edition CD (with A Case Of You, If 6 Was 9 and Strange Fruit) for less than $10 at a record fair? Let me know because I'm looking for that item! You're really lucky to live in the UK! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:42:36 -0500 From: "Mark H. Camper" Subject: Re: There are evil people out there. Tori Site offline for a while If anyone is interested in getting Merman while Alex's site is down it is also available at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/1713/ as well as a mp3 of Spark she performed on Letterman back in April. If anyone has a link to a good mp3 of her performance of Jackie's Strength that she did on Letterman, I would greatly appreciate it. - -Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 10:01 AM Subject: There are evil people out there. Tori Site offline for a while >Okay >So anyhow, you all know, that I had merman up on my site for people to >download in Mp3 format. I had the file on a different server, in geocities. >i also gave the password to that server for those who wanted to ftp it, >since downloading could take so long. well.. i got this little email >today... > >>Alex, you should be smarter than printing the password for your Geocities >>account on the net....someone could come along and take it >over.....HEHEHEHE. >>let me say i really like your site. i'm a big tori fan, but how stupid >could >>you be. i hope people don't go to that site often......i changed it around >a >>bit. it could be embarrasing. > >Basically this person, took over that geocities account. and did a really >nasty thing to it.. > >none the less. he or she. linked back to my site.. therefore my site is >leaving the net for a couple of days until i can move it. i have no way of >getting the geocities password again. he/she changed the email address on >the account and everything. so even if i request it, its not coming back to >me. what pisses me off the most is that i had merman up for people to >appreciate it, and not its all fucked up. and i have to changed all the >links, and move the whole damn site. i dont know who this person was, or if >they knew me. whoever they were, they are an asshole/bitch. their email >address was Takeitover@aol.com go figure it had to be an aol person.. no >offense to aol ppl out there. i am not going to bother to reply to this >person. im not that type of person. i hope he/she gets back what they have >coming towards them someday. i guess sometimes it doesnt pay to be a nice >guy > >oh this is the url where merman was so you all can see what he/she did... >http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cabana/5856/ > >i hope to change the links asap, i will update when it is done.. for now the >site is vanished. >if anyone has any suggestions on what can we do to this person, let me know. >thanks >alex > >ps. the tori book is no longer taking submissions. an update on the book >will come soon > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - >----- >The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from ToriNews, e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with the >word "unsubscribe" in the message body. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:37:50 EDT From: Leannoth@aol.com Subject: Cincinnati concert Does anyone have any information about the July 21st concert in Cincinnati, Ohio at the Crown? I was planning on attending the concert but had to go out of town. If anyone has any kind of info (set lists, pictures, reviews, whatever), please e-mail me privately. Thanks! ~~Andréa. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:45:57 -0400 From: "Jennifer Jacobsen" Subject: tori Does anyone on here happen to have the pics and article of tori when she was in newsweek saved in their computer? When i went to get it the new newsweek was already out so i never got to see the pics or read the article :( This always happens to me!! And I have had several people ask me where I got this quote from and I got it from Loreena McKennitt's Book of Secrets little lyrics/diary book that comes in the cd. :) - -- ^ÓThey change their sky but not their soul those who cross the ocean.^Ô ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:40:39 EDT From: Toriamos1@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori and celebrity deathmatch??!!!! Hey all! I just wanted to say I got the From the Choirgirl Hotel Press Kit, and it had the most incredible photo (8x10 glossy!!!) of Tori that I've ever seen! I paid quite a bit for it, but the photo is worth the price. I scanned it in case anyone wants to see it... http://members.aol.com/yunnginva/ToriPressPhoto.htm C ya! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:10:19 -0400 From: kytiara majere Subject: Boston concert I will say that the concert at the fleetcenter went extremely well, in my opinion. If anyone is interested, i have a somwhat sizable review of it... if interested, email me privately, please. {<[ness]>} - ----------------- ...and do you know what this is doing to me... - --TA here.in my head ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: mmc22@cornell.edu Subject: northern lad Hey all- i was listening to ftcgh today and realized how beautiful northern lad really is. both the music and the words are just amazing (at least I think so!) anyway...i was wondering if tori has performed northern lad at any of her shows to date. i would *love* to hear it performed live. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:45:18 -0400 From: voodoo@mail.delanet.com Subject: Thief Among Us ! I'm just tossing this out to vent and also if you happen by some chance to come across this joker... Well.. I was at the meet and greet in Philly. During the rush to the barricades, yep they moved them at the last second we all had to scramble. I became seprated from my wife, she was ahead of me and too the left... I handed her my record store cover art of Professional Widow Single to be signed (I've been holding on to this for several years now, I wanted to get in signed and framed). Well... Tori was kind enough to sign it.. But my wife handed it back to me, except it was not ME! I thought she still had it and well the person just took off with it. I have no idea whom stole it but I think it's pretty damn lame when people are stealing from other Tori fans. Anyways.. if anyone comes across someone whom is proud of their new piece.. I'd love to hear about it... R, Julien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:09:12 -0400 From: "Nephilim" Subject: The tori corner merman takeover hello all. i found out who took over the site. it is someone that i dont know personally but they frequent a toriamos chat room i am sometimes in. and they thought it would be a nice way to "well, Since i haven't takled to anyone on the list for awhile..and since i havent been on XXX (the channel) in a while..uhmm i figured the only way to get back in with the groove of things is to confess.." I declined putting this person's email address and the channel name because i dont want this to go any further. i want to thank you all for your support and the site is back up and running. please dont email the basterd or waste your time. i requested for her to take down what she put up and i hope she will. either way, geocites has been made aware of the situation and will probably take care of it if she doesnt do it. as for merman, well unless someone requests it, it wont be back up. there are other sites out there which now have merman in mp3 format. and in real audio remember that this month is a new tori poll i would like all to participate also, that every week there are new mp3s and also that the Tori book will make its online debut on sunday august 16th. thanks for all your support alex i hope all the links are now okay, since i had to change some. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:23:05 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: Jackie's Strength/Raspberry Swirl singles actualy, as of latest notest, raspberry swirl is only going to be a one-disc release, and it has two remixes....one of them, I think is by the guy who did some of the remixes on Professional Widow US release (armand sumthin or other). that's all =) brother, lover, bogenvilla, ~* josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:51:56 -0400 From: "Scott A. Kenney" Subject: Pregnancy Clue? Having just seen the Springfield show I'd like to add this bit of fodder to the ongoing debate. :) While singing "Cruel", Tori (while cradling her abdomen) sang the following line: "lover brother bougenvilla your vine twists around my baby" Has this lyrical alteration been seen before? - -- Scott Kenney >|< saken@rmta.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 23:19:00 PDT From: "Mika Bennet" Subject: Tori Lithograph Hello All, I have an extra beautiful Tori lithograph I would like to get rid of if anyone is interested. Please email me with a bid, highest bidder will receive it. Thank you, M.B. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:22:25 EDT From: ToriPyro@aol.com Subject: Merman MP3 just to offer, i have the .mp3 of Merman...i've had that info on my site for months now and have had my email link there too....but for anyone who doesn't know that, let me "advertise" now: it's good quality, mp3....and i don't need anything in exchange....just email me and it's yours :) loveintori, Vicki http://members.aol.com/ToriPyro/torimain.html (or http://welcome.to/apple.green.icecream) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:57:25 +0500 From: "Hector Hernandez" Subject: Need help in Austin Hello, is there anyone from Austin who wouldn't mind kinda taking me under their wing and guiding me through my first few Tori concerts? I'll be a freshman at UT in the fall and I won't have a car and I've never been to a Tori Amos concert. Thanks. Alma ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:04:25 -0700 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Re: Jackie's Strength/Raspberry Swirl singles >some of the remixes on Professional Widow US release (armand sumthin or >other). that's all =) That would Armand Van Helden, indeed the guy who butchered "Professional Widow" - however, he's not mentioned in the liner notes of the RS promo, but there are different mixes on the *real* single, so maybe he's responsible for one of those... all I can tell you is that he didn't do the "Lip Gloss" mix. Cheers Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:02:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Boston concert On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, kytiara majere wrote: > I will say that the concert at the fleetcenter went extremely > well, in my opinion. If anyone is interested, i have a somwhat sizable > review of it... if interested, email me privately, please. Please feel free to post it to precious-things if you'd like. I don't want anyone to feel they shouldn't post a review of a Tori show just because it's long and detailed. :) Mike precious-things co-owner | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 15:12:05 -0600 From: Cheryl Pike Subject: New Mexico EWF ticket camp out? Hi there!! Any fans up for a mini-gathering in Albuquerque? Bonnie Doxey and I were talking about camping out for tickets and I thought it would be cool if we could get all the NM fans on the list to come along. Let me know - tickets go on sale Saturday! Also, are there any out of state EWF coming to NM for the show? I want to plan some sort of pre-concert get together :) Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 17:25:56 EDT From: Katapilla7@aol.com Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? this could also be her talking about her first baby "vines twist around" sounds like a death inuendo do you think? kat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 17:12:17 -0400 From: kytiara majere Subject: April 25th club concert pics Hi all. I have a big favor to ask... I'm looking for any pictures anyone may know of that are of the April 25th concert. It was @ the Avalon in Boston. My friend Kim was there, and she was in the front row, and when Tori played Baker Baker (her favorite song) she burst into tears, and Tori consoled her. Well, some grrl @ the fleetcenter concert told Kim that there were pictures of Kim & Tori around the internet somewhere... and so Kim asked me if i could find them. I've browsed around the dent, tried tori.com, and even hunted through some old RDT(RN) archives. So, if anyone knows of any, could you drop me a URL? I would really appreciate it... thanks bunches {[>nessa<]} ...and hey do you know what this is doing to me... {:.t.a.:} here.in my head ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 17:12:17 -0400 From: kytiara majere Subject: April 25th club concert pics Hi all. I have a big favor to ask... I'm looking for any pictures anyone may know of that are of the April 25th concert. It was @ the Avalon in Boston. My friend Kim was there, and she was in the front row, and when Tori played Baker Baker (her favorite song) she burst into tears, and Tori consoled her. Well, some grrl @ the fleetcenter concert told Kim that there were pictures of Kim & Tori around the internet somewhere... and so Kim asked me if i could find them. I've browsed around the dent, tried tori.com, and even hunted through some old RDT(RN) archives. So, if anyone knows of any, could you drop me a URL? I would really appreciate it... thanks bunches {[>nessa<]} ...and hey do you know what this is doing to me... {:.t.a.:} here.in my head ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:39:59 +1000 From: "DirtyFishyDish" Subject: Little Earthquakes Australian Promo Cassette For Sale Hi! I'm selling one of the Tour Promo Cassettes of Tori's from her Little Earthquakes tour. This item is VERY rare and has sold previously for a couple of hundred dollars! This item is in MINT condition. Any offers? E-mail me!!! I'm also wondering how rare Australian Tori Promo CD's are (such as TA3). Thanks. DirtyFishyDish s368370@student.uq.edu.au - -- VISIT ' A TORI AMOS HEAVEN' http://come.to/toriheaven/ ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ 'Don't Judge Me So Harsh Little Girl' | 'I Believe In Peace, Bitch' 'If The Divine Master Plan Is Perfection' | 'Why Do We Crucify Ourselves?' ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 16:19:07 -0500 From: A Faerie Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? Scott A. Kenney wrote: > > Having just seen the Springfield show I'd like to add this bit of fodder > to the ongoing debate. :) While singing "Cruel", Tori (while cradling > her abdomen) sang the following line: > > "lover brother bougenvilla your vine twists around my baby" Are you sure it was 'baby' and not a twist on the pronounciation of 'need'?. During Cruel tori changes the pronounciation of the words in the song to sound different, so maybe it kinda sounded like baby, but indeed wasn't. Also Tori's been craddling her tummy during that song all tour as far as i know. at least she has in 6 shows i've seen so far. But then again i can be wrong, just posting what i've heard, and i think trying to figure out of tori is preggie is a bit time consuming and ridiculous. just something to think about, because assuming that Tori is pregnant, just isn't right to me and i am not the type to go on talkign about it until Tori goes "hey guys! guess what? i got a bun in the oven"... Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....I guess I'm an underwater thing, I'm liquid running http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (my homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:19:49 EDT From: RsberySwrl@aol.com Subject: need what tori is selling list Hi peoples, okay my friend is goin to the tori concert with me and she needs the list of what tori is selling. could one of you kind EWF please send it to Demeter732@aol.com...thanx! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:48:57 EDT From: Nothing769@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Pregnancy Clue? Ok. Lets consider. If Tori were pregnant again, do you think that she would add all of these extra dates to the tour? I think she would be extremely careful this time ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 18:52:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Tori in Springfield Hi all, I was lucky enough to have a chance to attend Tori's wonderful performance at the Springfield Symphony Hall last night, so I thought I'd share some of my thoughts on the event. This bit of luck came about thanks to the same person who provided me with a ticket to Tori's preview tour show at the Avalon, so I am once again in her debt. Thanks Heather! The meet and greet was certainly much better run than the one at the Avalon had been back in April, mainly because the security guards actually took an interest in what was going on. While I once again failed to meet Tori (*sigh*), at least this time I didn't get crushed in the process and I did get to hang out with some pretty cool Tori fans while I was waiting. Symphony Hall is one of the smaller venues that Tori is playing in on this leg of the tour (and also where she played during the Dewdrop Inn tour), and the smaller audience and truly excellent acoustics made an extraordinary show even more enjoyable. While Tori gave a great performance she was obviously still not 100%, and during the show she avoided the very top of her normal vocal range. I guess having been ill for a while has given her time to figure out how to best deal with the limitations on her voice. She never reached for the high notes and failed to get them, instead wisely choosing to avoid the need to test her voice in front of a live audience by adjusting her delivery to keep things within her current range. Overall it was a great set. I was happy to have a chance to hear the band arrangement of "Sugar," but I think that I prefer the older live versions of the song. Some songs do very well in their new guises, but I don't think that "Sugar" is one of them. I was also glad to get a chance to hear "Merman" live again and was thrilled that the set included my favorite song off FtCH, "Liquid Diamonds." "Raspberry Swirl" sounded damn good live, and Matt's choice of headwear (glowing star antennae) during the song was really funny. I could have done without the extended version of "Waitress," but the set was of such high quality otherwise that I can live with one song I wasn't thrilled about. So now I'm looking forward to the show at the Oakdale on Tuesday and hoping that another day off will mean that Tori will be futher recovered from her cold/flu, though this time I'll be skipping both the meet and greet and another boring set from The Devlins. Mike | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:01:23 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: springfield hey toriphiles, seeing that the setlist for the springfield show was on the dent no less than two hours after the show was over (and in the hot little hands of mikewhy even sooner than that!), i guess i don't have to say anything about how wonderful a set tori played last night. this was my first plugged show and pretty much all of my needs were met. ;) the only sngs i wouldn't have minded hearing as well were "iiieee" and "little earthquakes", but i'll settle for "merman", "sugar", "landslide", "marianne" and "little amsterdam" in a pinch. ;) i agree with mike curry that tori's voice was not quite 100%, but damned if i could barely notice the difference -- she was wailing as well as ever on "cruel" and "the waitress". the venue was perfectly-sized -- big enough fora rock concert, but small enough to have that feel of intimacy that the later shows in 1992 had when tori was playing places like town hall in new york city or the keswick in the philly area. it was a treat to finally meet abbe@mit.edu and nocturne -- i wasn't able to reply to anyone who had contacted me about meeting beforehand due to an unfortunate disk crash at the end of last week. but, i wore my way-old-ut-not-too-ratty rdt t-shirt in hopes that someone would notice and, sure enough, that's what prompted abbe to come over and say hi. i did record the springfield show and it came out fairly well. if anyone is interested in trading, please drop me a line as i'm rather interested in getting some of the other shows from the current tour. i'll also be taping on tuesday at oakdale, so it may be best to wait until afterwards to discuss things, but feel free to peruse ye olde trade liste at . it's a wee bit out of date (i have a couple shows from this tour, but haven't had a chance to add them to the list yet), but still chock-full of all sorts of goodies, tori and non-tori alike. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:16:43 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: 1994 tour info also sprach Bob Kollmeyer (rjk1@cs.wustl.edu): >(woj - when did precious-things >start up - was it 95 or was it around for the end of the UtP tour??? My >archives got whacked last year...). as richard mentioned, it was march 1, 1996. for everyone's information, *all* of the precious-things digests are archived at . by the way, the first digest is actually #13 -- the first twelve are just mike and i making sure things are working right and deciding how things would work on the list (took us a whole month as you can see). >But, um, regarding the not varying the songs... even in the LE days she >mixed things up well. I dare say she's more stagnant in her set lists on >this tour (owing mostly to the newness of the band I hope) than on any >other tour. while i haven't done a statistical analysis or anything, i think she's mixing things up more on this tour than on the first one. during those halcyon days, she usually played the same triad of songs to start ("crucify", "silent all these years" and something else i can't remember right now), a couple b-sides, a couple covers and a couple album tracks. these days, she's playing longer shows, a wider variety of songs and even mixing up the opening three numbers (witness "precious things" usurping "black dove" in the #1 spot (not that great of an idea if you ask me since i think "p t" is too much a wallop of a song to be the first one she plays) and "spark" moves in and out of the triad periodically). woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:02:42 EDT From: Nothing769@aol.com Subject: i believe in peace Ok. When Tori plays 'waitress' I think she adds words to it... I saw her twice in philadelphia, and I didn't catch what she was saying. Does anyone know what it was? - -anastasia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:01:05 EDT From: PANG223@aol.com Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? I personally have never heard or seen her do this but at the philly concert on the 29th, she sang the line as it appears on the album, but on the word, "NEED", she paused and framed her crotch with a devlish little smile, and she really just made the song sexier with the way she sang it. However, her last song was Playboy Mommy and during the intro, she rocked her arms in front of her abdomen. But don't get me wrong, I DON'T think she's pregnant again, she wouldn't keep touring like this if she was, think about it, she just extended her tour to the end of November. I don't think she'd go around using nasal sprays, and those huge shoes and tour this heavily if she was ESPECIALLY sick like she has been. In the article from the free music magazine Tori even says that she's not getting pregnant for a while because she's not completely healed yet, and that's what the music is helping her do. If she's still not over the loss of that first little girl, there's no way in Hell she'd risk another with her current schedule. In the meantime, love to all who love Tori Corinne "And is your place in Heaven worth giving up these KISSES?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:56:31 -0400 From: "Scott A. Kenney" Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 04:19:07PM -0500, A Faerie wrote: > > Scott A. Kenney wrote: > > > > Having just seen the Springfield show I'd like to add this bit of fodder > > to the ongoing debate. :) While singing "Cruel", Tori (while cradling > > her abdomen) sang the following line: > > > > "lover brother bougenvilla your vine twists around my baby" > > Are you sure it was 'baby' and not a twist on the pronounciation of > 'need'?. During Cruel tori changes the pronounciation of the words in > the song to sound different, so maybe it kinda sounded like baby, but > indeed wasn't. I'm definately sure of this, it was a crystal clear pronounciation. > Also Tori's been craddling her tummy during that song all tour as far as > i know. at least she has in 6 shows i've seen so far. But then again i > can be wrong, just posting what i've heard, and i think trying to figure > out of tori is preggie is a bit time consuming and ridiculous. I actually agree with you, my thought is Tori may have heard there are rumors of her pregnancy flying around and may be playing in her trademark subtle way. :) What I'm really interested in finding out is if she's sung this variation before. - -- Scott Kenney >|< saken@rmta.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:20:01 EDT From: Finney2567@aol.com Subject: new version of tori songs What's up Ears with feet, Just a comment about tori's new songs, I recommend that people listen to the new version of tori songs on the internet....this way you have a feel for what to expect at the concert... After listening to horses and Waitress on a site called Little Amsterdam http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/1017/frames.html I was so eager to hear them live.... Do not judge the songs on how it's so different (not like anyone i know has) but, they are new 'girls'....it takes awhile before you get to know them...?? I definitely recommend them to people going to future concerts....I'm sure there are a lot more webpages with these songs..... Later Finney (kim) p.s...someone was asking what song you would like to see tori cover, I would love to see 'the icicle melts' by the cranberries...just a thought ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:30:48 -0400 From: abbe@mit.edu Subject: Springfield show I love Matt's deely-boppers--they even light up! I think they may be officially dubbed the Raspberry Swirl headgear, as he wore them at the Fleet Center during that song and again in Springfield the next night. So now you can predict when she's going to play... Random Springfield Musings - The venue was excellent. Wish she'd played here for any of her earlier tours, I don't know of any where she did. but their web site needed directions for how to get *away* from the venue as well as how to get *to* it - we drove past it about 6 times in circles after following signs to the highway that were all closed due to construction before finally getting on the highway. *sigh*. I got to look down at the sound/light booth and at Mark's copy of the setlist from my seat in the balcony. She changed it around pretty heavily from what they'd printed on it before the show, some to my pleasure and some not. Pandora was on the setlist but didn't get played; maybe she decided it wasn't ready after all? (i don't think she's performed it live yet.) she dropped Happy Phantom in favor of Merman. I kind of wish I hadn't looked because I was looking forward to hearing Happy Phantom but I shouldn't be annoyed that she changed her mind. =) but I did get to look forward to Little Amsterdam with a band, which she *did* play as the setlist said, and it was worth looking forward to. Worked well with her voice not having its usual range too; such a deep and smoky song. - -abbe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:28:04 EDT From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: Re: new version of tori songs In a message dated 8/3/98 10:23:01 PM Central Daylight Time, Finney2567@aol.com writes: > p.s...someone was asking what song you would like to see tori cover, > I would love to see 'the icicle melts' by the cranberries...just a thought i love that song. but i don't think tori will be doing it anytime soon.. i think the songs is about abortion, and since dolores o'riordan is catholic, it's about how terrible abortion is (inher opinion). and since tori has expressed herself as pro-choice, I don't think she would really get into that song. just a thought, could be wrong Mairie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:34:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Springfield show On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 abbe@mit.edu wrote: > The venue was excellent. Wish she'd played here for any of her > earlier tours, I don't know of any where she did. I'm fairly certain she played there on the BfP tour, during her first pass through the northeast. I don't know the exact date though, and I'm too lazy to attempt to hunt it down just now. :) Mike | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Springfield show Mike Curry said: > I'm fairly certain she played there on the BfP tour, during her first > pass through the northeast. I don't know the exact date though, and I'm > too lazy to attempt to hunt it down just now. :) I keep that stuff right here. According to information gleaned from The Dent: May 17 - Springfield MA - Symphony Hall. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:09:27 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Getting Tickets the day of the concert In my opinion and experience with Tori Concerts, if you are willing to take a risk and go to the concert early, there *Are* Toriphiles who have extra tickets they will let go at cost. If you are willing to wait till after the show starts, the scalpers will let the tickets go at a fraction of the cost, just to recoup money. Also, the box office might release a few tickets after the opening act if VIP seats aren't claimed. I have known several people who insist that waiting till the day of the concert and hunting down tickets is the best way of getting good seats. In Philadelphia I knew for a fact several people had extra tickets that went to waste, and would have given/sold them to anyone who asked. But you have to be aggressive and willing to take the huge risk that you will have gone all that way with a small chance of being disappointed. If I had no other way of getting tickets, I would take this route and risk. Just an opinion of course. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated weekly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #275 *************************************