From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #249 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, July 11 1998 Volume 03 : Number 249 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Tori on MTV ad [Natesgirl1@aol.com] Beatles and Elton [HyJptrCrsh@aol.com] mom quote [HyJptrCrsh@aol.com] promotion [RasbrySwrI@aol.com] Bachlorette [SilentSelf@aol.com] On-sale dates from RDT [Greg Burrell ] Well of all things! Jackie cancelled in the UK.... Raspberry Swirl *WILL* be the next single. ["Mike Gray" ] Re: Well of all things! Jackie cancelled in the UK.... Raspberry Swirl *WILL* be [Katapilla] Foam? [Amethyest@webtv.net (Alice)] Tori poll results [Persephone ] Re: my northern lad [BlueGirl88@aol.com] online tori seller [Katapilla7@aol.com] 1 philly (7/29) ticket for sale (face value) [BlackSwan2@aol.com] Re: tell me which hand I use... [BlueGirl88@aol.com] looking for two tori merch. pages... [Aurora252@aol.com] Filmore poster for sale. ["Dydo, Chloe" ] some neat tori schtuff [roller girl ] Re: Foam? [Bobdel123@aol.com] Toronto tickets - [becky ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:19:49 EDT From: Natesgirl1@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori on MTV ad I just saw that ad too the show is called Drop Spot and it airs at 1:00pm and 6:30pm on Sunday July 12th on MTV just in case anyone wants to watch it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:24:26 EDT From: HyJptrCrsh@aol.com Subject: Beatles and Elton How many Beatles songs (or songs of someone who was once in the Beatles)has she covered? Shes Leaving Home, Abbey Road, Imagine, Let it Be and what else? then Elton John: Candle in the Wind, Tiny Dancer, Daniel and what else ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:50:29 EDT From: HyJptrCrsh@aol.com Subject: mom quote someone asked about this, "everything is secondary when the songs are coming. I dont know what kind of mother i would be' it would depend on how the songs felt about the baby. Im a musician before im a women, no question." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:12:02 EDT From: RasbrySwrI@aol.com Subject: promotion Just a quick reminder, if you havent visited my new tori webite The Other Side of the Galaxy then please do! http://members.aol.com/rasingirl6/theotherside.html, and dont forget to sign my guestbook! thanks ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:54:52 EDT From: SilentSelf@aol.com Subject: Bachlorette Hey peoples... I think that mostly some of you have been to my nfty little Tori page called Petals of a blood Rose.... It had lots of fun and interesting things on it... Welp... I got bored (as i do ALOT) with it so i decided to change some stuff.... I ended up changing EVERYTHING! I changed the name to Bachlorette, changed the logo, restarted the Faeried ring, made new award stickers (this time rated from 1 to 5) updated MASSIVLY, and ive re-done the guestbook... ive tried to get rid of the roses as MUCH as possible! Oh yeah, and about the faerie ring, I NEED SOME GRAPHICS!!!!!!!!!! Please please please.....if you can make some graphics for the ring, i would love you forever! And i am also taking logo and layout designs... the URL is: http://surf.to/prowidow Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Burrell Subject: On-sale dates from RDT Hi Everybody, 7/9/98 CONCERTS These are all the concerts that Tori's management confirmed as going on sale in the near future: ------------------------------------------------------------ Concert City Venue On-Sale Date Date ------------------------------------------------------------ 8/29 Norman, OK Lloyd Noble Center 7/18 8/30 Omaha, NE Orpheum Theater 7/18 9/9 Vancouver, BC GM Place 7/11 9/13 Eugene, OR Cuthbert Amphitheater 7/10 9/19 San Jose, CA SJ State Events Center 7/19 9/20 Santa Barbara, CA Santa Barbara Bowl 7/11 9/27 Phoenix, AZ America West Arena 7/10 TELEVISION Tori is confirmed to play Conan O'Brien on August 7. However, the Jay Leno date (rumored to be September 17) has not been finalized and is subject to change. JACKIE'S STRENGTH SINGLE Tori's mangement reports that they are working on artwork for a US "Jackie's Strength" single but they don't yet have any release dates finalized. -Greg Burrell The Official Tori Amos Fanzine News Editor http://www.toriamos.org Really Deep Thoughts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:36:17 -0700 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Well of all things! Jackie cancelled in the UK.... Raspberry Swirl *WILL* be the next single. Hi Guys.. I never would have believed it, and if it hadn't been for E/w's past record for incompetent promotion, I'd be sat here thinking "typo". But nope... Raspberry Swirl has today been confirmed as the next single in the UK, due to be released on August 3rd. So... 1)The E/w representatives in-store did not know this on *TUESDAY* 2)E/w have been promoting Jackie's Strength both in the trade press and 3)With in-store sampler CDs 4)Release dates for JS have been issued twice now - firstly for the 29th of June? and then 3rd of August 5)They've just changed their minds. WHAT THE F*CK IS GOING ON WITH THAT?! Someone give e/w a good kick for being clueless, please? I mean, OK, OK, OK, so JS wasn't going to be overly commercially successful, but now I think we'll be getting remixes. Oh well, sorry to have been spreading misinformation all these weeks. And even more sorry that someone was spreading it to their own representatives... So Mike, it looks like whoever was telling you it was the next single was right. Oddly, though, a friend of mine (whose SO works for Esprit incidentally) was still telling me on Monday that it was to be JS on 2 CDs, and that this had been put about in the trade press as recently as last Saturday. Take care. Mike (Who feels like he only opens his mouth to change feet these days..) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 21:52:38 PDT From: "Casey Benton" Subject: [none] Hi, I have been collecting Tori for quite some time now, my uncle used to work for Atlantic Records and I have been able to collect many things such as promotional items etc. I am going to be auctioning all of it off shortly. For a complete list of what I am offering, email me PRIVATELY. Some things I will be getting rid of are: Cornflake Girl Box Precious Things Promo Smells Like Teen Spirit Deodorant Baltimore Vinyl Y Kant Tori Read Promo Under The Pink Triangle Pendant Hey Jupiter Promo Promotional Spin poster Magazine Cover Poster I am also looking for front row seats to the Madison Square Garden show, I will pay any price. Casey "MMMMBOP" -Taylor Hanson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:03:34 EDT From: Katapilla7@aol.com Subject: Re: Well of all things! Jackie cancelled in the UK.... Raspberry Swirl *WILL* be so what is going to happen to us that have already pre ordered the jackies strength singles??????? damnit kat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:28:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Amethyest@webtv.net (Alice) Subject: Foam? Halo all, This is my first time posting I'm finally delurking after 4 months.I was listening to Pandora's Aquarium when I began to think about the foam line:"foam can be dangerous with tape across my mouth." Is it actual foam or something else? I've seen foam discussed in newsgroups(not r.m.t-a) and many people would to refer to it as some sort of drug.I'm really curious about this.Anyone have any interps of what Tori might mean by it? - -Alice- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Persephone Subject: Tori poll results Here's the results from my tori poll (in order, 1 having the most votes) Favorite song from Choirgirl: 1) Playboy Mommy 2) tie between Black Dove and iieee 3) tie between Raspberry Swirl and Liquid Diamonds Least favorite song from Choirgirl: 1)Pandora's Aquarium hands down (hey, I love that song!) 2) She's Your Cocaine 3) Hotel (another of my favorite) Favorite song of all time: 1) Upside Down 2) Here. In My Head 3) Crucify (although Silent All These Years came pretty close) That's all folks! Whew, I didn't know poll-taking was so hard. Time for a sandwich. Bye! Persephone `Be careful, honey. Come back with all your DNA intact' --Gillian Anderson == ~~~~~~ Listowner of tori-x-philes@onelist.com (lovers of tori amos and the x-files) Join at http://www.onelist.com or e-mail eyelashing@yahoo.com and write subscribe in the subject ~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:37:31 EDT From: BlueGirl88@aol.com Subject: Re: my northern lad In a message dated 7/9/98 4:14:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, luna17@hotmail.com writes: > > You know, Northern Lad is just so very analogous to Norwegian Wood by > The Beatles. Then again, that could just be me... It's very interesting that you said that because Tori mentions that song........ "Well, we have to remember that hit records and good songs are not synonymous. Maybe in the old days, a little bit. But now most hit records are not great songs. I'm not saying that those formula writers cannot stumble on something. But at a certain point, it's not about formula writing. I know I'm going back to the Beatles, just because that's a big point of reference, but how consistant can you get? 'Eleanor Rigby?' 'Norwegian Wood?' How many great songs and hit songs do you get? 'Scarborough Fair' was a big blueprint for 'Tear in Your Hand' [from Little Earthquakes.] I remember John Lennon talking about listening to songs that he loved, then changing them to make them his own versions. He would say, 'God, I love this song. I wish I'd written this song.' Then it would come out totally different. You might not even know what song it is that inspired you to do something, but there is that ingredient. Sometimes I do think that we're really just rewriting songs. There are only 12 bloody notes, you know. So I'll listen to some song and say, Why didn't *I* write that?" You just might be right. Once again I'd like to credit this but I can never remember where I find things on the web. Love Sarah & Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:44:06 EDT From: Katapilla7@aol.com Subject: online tori seller I just found a site with an extensive list of tori merchandise(mostly bootlegs many of them). (disclaimer I have never ordered from them I have never heard of them but the website looked professional) anyways the address is www.woodpecker-records.com kat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:28:16 EDT From: BlackSwan2@aol.com Subject: 1 philly (7/29) ticket for sale (face value) hey toriphiles~ due to *very* unfortunate circumstances, i will not be able to attend the philly corestates spectrum show on wednesday july 29th. :( so i have one ticket available which i am looking to sell for face value (i am not looking to make a profit, just to get the ticket off my hands). the ticket cost is $30 plus $6 TM and mailing charges (i had my ticket mailed to me so it was an extra $1 or so for that...crooks!) hehe. anyway...the seat is in section C, row 11, seat number 10. if anyone is interested, please e-mail me back...blackswan2@aol.com thanks a lot. :) *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* love kRiS** <~@ the Black Swan @~> bootlegs galore! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:32:27 EDT From: BlueGirl88@aol.com Subject: Re: tell me which hand I use... Here's what Tori had to say about "Yes Anastasia" "I hope I told your story correctly, my friend. So many codes, it was hard to decipher, but I believe Anastasia's story is everyone's in a way. She tried to tell me that and I blew her off." "Poppy is the little girl who was in Silent All These Years." "It's a journey. Anastasia Romanov. It's not like I've read loads of books on her. I was aware of the family and that's about it. So I'm in Virginia, and I had crabs...(giggles) I keep saying that! I had crab sickness, I had eaten bad crabs in Maryland! But I couldn't cancel the show. I was at soundcheck, and needless to say, when you are very, very ill, it is easier to communicate with your source... you are fragile and vulnerable. Well, her presence came. Now I have only heard of her in history, I've got no point to make. She comes and goes 'you've got to write my tune.' I go, 'ohhh, now's not really a good time.' She says, 'no, you've got to understand something from this, there's something here that you've got to come to terms with.' And that night came, (as she softly sings the line) 'We'll see how brave you are,' and that was really about the whole record. That came just about before everything. And whenever I sing that chorus, 'we'll see how brave you are,' it means so many different things to me. It's part of my self, my spirit self saying to the rest of myself, 'if you really want a challenge, just deal with yourself.' The funny thing is that Anna Anderson, who claimed to be Anastasia, died very close to where I was playing, an hour or so from there in the 80s. The feeling I got that Anna Anderson was Anastasia Romanov. She always tried to prove it and a lot of people believed her and some people didn't want to believe her, because of what that would have meant. And again, it's really working through being a victim. 'Counting the tears from ten thousand men, and gathered them all, but my feel are slipping.' You can't blame the men anymore; there's always you. It comes back to us; it comes back to me. " "So Cornflake Girl, The Waitress and Bells for Her add an underlying theme to the record... even with 'girls, what have we done to ourselves' in Anastasia: 'thought she'd deserved no less than she'd give, well happy birthday, her blood's on my hands.' You're not the cause of this person's unhappiness. And yet you seem to be the one standing there getting dumped on." "When we get to Anastasia - I had some visitation on this. I was in Richmond. It was after the Washington show, and I had food poisoning. Very ill. I was in Richmond the next night [which is where Anastasia supposedly died] and her being visited me, and said, 'You need to tell my story.' And I'm like, 'Oh, come on. I'm losing crab at both ends. [Tori had eaten some bad seafood] Can't we, like, negotiate this?' And it was a bit of - that's where my experience from the violent kidnapping that I went through with Me and a Gun kind of made me able to understand the horror that she went through, and yet, the incredible understanding that she came to, which is the first half of Anastasia, that whole, 'Show me the ways to get back to the garden' and 'Driving on the vine over clotheslines. But officer, I saw the sign.' You're very aware of what's happening, that you're being changed and that you're numbing yourself, but how do you turn it around? And that's where 'We'll see how brave you are' - when you're 18, you know everything, and it's, yeah, I can handle anything. Well, any of us can be brought to our knees real fast. And with Anastasia, I would be looking kind of down on myself through different parts of my life, going, 'We'll see how brave you are.' And I get such hope from that one." "That's my big epic. A lot of Debussy influence on the first half, and the Russian composers on the second half. I was real excited working with Phil Shenal, who arranged the strings. We'd had quite a famous arranger arranging and Eric and I erased it all after we had some margaritas. No, we purposely did, it was shit. " "I was feeling so sick that I wanted to be put out of my misery. And then I get this presence. It's like a light, a blueish-greyish light . . . The message was, `You need to learn something out of writing my story'." I'd like to give credit to the website I found these quotes on, but I just can't remember where I found them. Sorry about that. Love, Cindy & Sarah In a message dated 7/9/98 4:14:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cystuhler@juno.com writes: > "I know what you want/the magpies have come/if you know me so well then > tell me which hand I use...make them go...make them go" from Yes > Anastasia (UtP) referred to. > > I thought it referred to Anastasia & the persistant questions over > whether she was really assasinated w/Czar Nicolas & the rest of the > family in 1918 or whether she survived; or if the woman (or women) who > claimed to be her was merely an imposter. > I thought "if you know me so well then tell me which hand I use" perhaps > referred to how Anastasia/the imposter was constantly questioned & > tested, especially by the royal relative all over Europe (including the > Windsors) who rejected the woman who claimed to be Anastasia. > > The song, to me, is littered with references to Anastasia..."there's > something we left on the windowsill", "show me the ways to get back to > the garden" "Happy birthday her blood's on my dress", and the most > obvious reference - "Thought I'd been through this in 1919". I don't > think the song is completely and absolutely about Anastasia, but perhaps > about the ability to live through something devastating, being doubted, > being true to ones' self/to others - all themes that are common in Tori's > songs. > > Just thought I'd share my hefty 2cents worth. The history of Czar > Nicolas & what happened to his family, including Anastasia & Alexi the > son, has been an ongoing obsession of mine (in addition to my obsession > with Tori!) > > Any comments/disagreements are quite welcome! > Callie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:33:10 EDT From: Aurora252@aol.com Subject: looking for two tori merch. pages... could anyone please give me the links to "HERE" and "The Tori Amos Marketplace"? Thanks so much!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:35:00 -0700 From: "Dydo, Chloe" Subject: Filmore poster for sale. I just put my Tori SF Filmore poster up for sale at ebay.com If you're intrested in bidding, please go to http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=20782465 They also have a lot of other cool Tori items that are hard to resist! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:14:14 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: some neat tori schtuff i ran into a place that has two Under the Pink tour posters ($7.99 each) and the tori choirgirl wall hanging with the UK dates on it ($15.99) as well as Dew Drop Inn, Purple Rose, Over the Pink, More Pink, Little Rarities 2, and Covering Em. I have these already, but i know that people are always looking for good quality/condition tori things. They also were selling the 3x5 pics from 4/9/96 and stuff. Its disc go round in edina, mn (france ave by centinnel (sp?) lakes) -- incase any of you minnesota toriphiles want to get some stuff. the ardvark (penn and some other road i didn't pay attention to) also usually has a good supply of tori stuff. but since i was just at disc go round yesterday, i thought i'd tell everyone. (: .ally. we nego t iate {i am an ally } with c h a o s {icicle@hempseed.com } for some sense { } of satisfaction {tori amos in clip } {http://come.to/tori-amos} http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:25:29 EDT From: Bobdel123@aol.com Subject: Re: Foam? foam can be dangerous with tape across my mouth welll when you are foaming at the mouth it is dangerous to have tape across it cause you might die by choking Bob just athought ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:29:45 -0400 From: becky Subject: Toronto tickets - Well, as things unfold in my crazy life - it looks like I'm not going to be able to partake in the Toronto show. I have two tickets on sale going at $42.00. Let me know asap, if you're interested. Thanks very much and enjoy the show. I'll be able to see her in Detroit, but money and time constraints just don't allow me to be able to see her twice. Damn. becky ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #249 *************************************