From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #137 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, April 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 137 Today's Subjects: ----------------- A way to subscribe to The Big Picture [Pro Widow ] SF EWF!!!! [LaMorenaCA ] about tori chat [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] Rolling Stone [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] Merman [ally ] spark [Dominic Marullo ] Re: Mac users [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] CODs? [Butterfly Angel ] Re: merman [A Faerie ] RE: this tori chat thing [Billings@WHAD.com] merman & Tori pre-order ["K. Fischer" ] Spark and other stuff too [A Faerie ] Re: talula [Nadyne Mielke ] Tori and the baby and the MSG show [Beth Winegarner ] Re: Rolling Stone [Auburn2244 ] Prism Records [darkfire@netcom.ca] mp3 problems [SmerfCrazy ] Re: A Review of the entire album! ["Hanna P." ] Merman availalable for FREE online [WeirdyBoi ] Re: Tori's different. [Richard Handal ] Re: $ for DC Bos Phil and Tor [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] HBO Ole and HBO [Alicia ] letterman video [Jon & Janet Haverman ] Re: Merman availalable for FREE online [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: merman [STAR982 ] I found it (Merman) [lilchibi@flash.net] Chatting with Tori [Molly Marguerite ] FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY SOMEONE BETTER HAVE A TRANSCRIPT! [forsyt] Leno [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] Tori Amos: Star Profile [allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox)] Address and Letterman ["Hanna P." ] Re: CODs? [Nadyne Mielke ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:17:25 EDT From: Pro Widow Subject: A way to subscribe to The Big Picture Go to this URL for an easier way to subscribe to the Newsletter of The Big Picture. http://members.aol.com/prowidow/index.html Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:44:25 EDT From: LaMorenaCA Subject: SF EWF!!!! hey everyone, kust wondering how many people are planning on camping out at the filmore for tix. maybe we can meet up before hand. there's safety in numbers. if you are interested, e-mail me at this address Dorena151@worldnet.att.net - -dorena ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:44:26 -0400 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: about tori chat I've chateed on yahoo many times but never with the people they have on it... so if someone could just tell me how to get to the "room" she'll be in.... thanks :) - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:59:58 -0400 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Rolling Stone I was wondering when is tori going to be in Rolling Stone???? I just looked at the latest issue( with sarah on front) and I couldn't find her in it. Is she even going to be in Roling Stone??/ thanks :) - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:52:54 -0500 From: ally Subject: Merman Is there anyone who can download Merman can make it into a mp3 or a wav file or real audio or anything so us non-credit-card holders/un-big-business-elitists can hear the song also?? ally - ----- "don't judge me so harsh little girl, so you got a playboy mommy"-t.a. http://prism.net/~ally ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:14:47 -0400 From: Dominic Marullo Subject: spark as i said early last week, you can still see spark on letterman if you missed it. tori television is prsenting show four within the next 24 hours and it will contain spark. tori television- http://www.geocities.com/~bluest/toritv.html a frog named jethro- http://www.xensei.com/~jethro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:21:57 -0400 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Re: Mac users >I just found out that Merman won't work on macs. Before I preorder from >Tower Records (and support a really weird publicity plan), I'd like to know >if anyone here knows what they are going to give mac users in place of >Merman. > >Thanks, >Kari whoever was sending merman through the list.... sent a copy of Merman and i have a mac, i opened it up with Real Player which you can download for free... so anyone needs help or whatever e-mail me privately I'm ALWAYS willing to help a mac lover :) - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:13:10 From: Butterfly Angel Subject: CODs? Okay, here's the thing...I want to order some of Tori's stuff online but I want to be able to pay AFTER it gets here. I've been to a lot of sights but none of them accept CODs. Is there any recommendations? *lyn* ****************************************************************** she's addicted to nicotine patches, she's addicted to nicotine patches she's afraid of a light in the dark, 6:58 are you sure where my spark is here here here... ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:38:36 -0500 From: A Faerie Subject: Re: merman SmerfCrazy wrote: > holy shit, this is the most beautiful song ive ever heard. im practically in > tears. this is so incredibly sad, and yet, at the same time, i get a warm > feeling inside. it reminds me alot of twinkle- just tori and her piano. a > lullabye to the spirit of her baby. its incredible. absolutely beautiful. > > jjjjjjjjjjjjjj > (plastic is a disease) Oh boy! I agree! I just heard it and I had to listen again, i mean its so sad, and I had HUGE goosebumps listening to it, teary eyes and *sigh* its just so beautiful, its classic tori, for sure! Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....In my heart stirs a quiet passion http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (yes that be a homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:58:15 -0600 From: Billings@WHAD.com Subject: RE: this tori chat thing Celebrity chat sessions are typically archived on the host's site. When you get to Yahoo! Chat, look for an "archives" section. D. Eric Billingsley "What have you done with his body?????" - Mrs. Buttle (BRAZIL) >-----Original Message----- >From: Joni Doe24 [SMTP:JoniDoe24@aol.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 11, 1998 1:46 PM >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: this tori chat thing > > >about this tori chat thing, is anyone going to write up a transcript (is that >what they are called?) for those who cant be there? i cant go, but i want to >hear what she says ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: merman & Tori pre-order From what I have heard there are already some people who have been able to get this new song after pre-ordering Tori's new album from Tower. However, the Tower in Seattle does not seem to be having much success. I have been there four times now since last Friday, and every day they say that they still have not received the promotional items from Atlantic. They said they got a letter stating the materials would be sent to Tower by Friday afternoon, but they still haven't gotten anything. This is really frustrating, because they keep saying "we'll have it by tomorrow for sure." For right now Tower is blaming Atlantic, but it could be a problem with the postal service. (Seattle's post office is really good at screwing things up) I'll let people know when I have been able to be successful with this. Karin fischera@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:17:10 -0500 From: A Faerie Subject: Spark and other stuff too Hi everyone! I hope you all are doing well! since my computer crashed I hadn't had alot of time to update my page of mp3's cause i was offline and then had to reinstall everything on my computer, so in loo (or is it lou?) of that I thought that I would post here about the update, since alot of you like to download mp3's of Tori. I have added the following mp3's to my site as of 5 minutes ago, so if' you would like to check them out feel free to! Silent All These Years Down by the Seaside Sweet Home Alabama Landslide Wrapped Around Your Finger Sentimental Journey New Shoes The "All Things Considered Medley" Fire on the Side/Purple Rain Twinkle Whole Lotta Love and Spark from Letterman as been up since eysterday evening, thanks to Ian who made it. Since some people are doing this, i contimplated on doing it for a few days, but i might as well, cause if you don't ask you may not get it, and one never knows when something will pop up. I'd love to see tori on the club tour and my plans on having tickets fell through, and if anyone has an extra ticket (yeah right) i'd be happy to pay whatever for it and drive over from Nashville to see her in Atlanta. I'm not going to beg and plead, cause i'd look stupid, so that will have to be good enough. Thanks for listening and take care everyone! Danica, who apologizes for the typos :P - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....In my heart stirs a quiet passion http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (yes that be a homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:43:12 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: talula SmerfCrazy said: >In a message dated 4/12/98 11:59:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >allthegirlshateher@juno.com writes: >> From my understanding, you cannot get the original version >> anymore. All BfP's have the Tornado version on them now >hmm....... this may be true, but that doesnt mean that there arent any >originals still around. if i remember correctly, this topic was discussed a >while ago and someone said that there was like this enormous amount of >original Boys for Pele distributed, so the chances of the original ever >becomming a collectors item was slim to none. i think thats what was said, >but dont quote me on it. i dont know about everyone else, but where i live, i >have more trouble finding a BfP albumn with the tornado remix than the regular >one. maybe its just me...... oh well. Okay, here's a listing of all the BfPs printed in the US on CD. Ready? 1) Original Talula. 2) Tornado remix, but the liner notes and back of CD still showed it as Talula. 3) Tornado remix, and the liner notes and back of CD caught up this time. ;) 4) {As recently reported on rmta} Original Talula, but the liner notes and back of CD showed it as the Tornado remix. IIRC, the original pressing of BfP was around 800,000 copies. If that's the case, the version with the original Talula isn't a rarity. If you want to get a copy with the original Talula and it looks like it's the right one, you're going to have to listen to that song before you buy the CD. If you can't find one new, check out your local used CD store to see if you can't pick up a used one. {Oh, and while I'm here and listing off the various versions of BfP, there's also a UK re-release of the album that replaces PW with one of the remixes {although I can never remember which one offhand} and completely removes Voodoo.} Any questions? :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:19:58 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Tori and the baby and the MSG show I have a couple of things to say about this issue, mainly going back to my interview with Tori. I interviewed her on January 30, 1997, which from our timeline was just a week after the RAINN show and a month or so after the miscarriage. She said some things to me in the interview that at the time appeared not to make much sense but now that I think about it, gives me a little chill. Firstly, to the person who was talking about Tori's RAINN performance, and how it felt a bit invasive to watch now that we know about the loss of this child, he CFG dance and the lines "I know that you're with me." I asked Tori specifically how she felt about the show, and this is what she said: (from http://www.addict.com/html/lofi/Features/Amos,_Tori/970301/page_02.html) Addicted to Noise: How did the RAINN benefit go? Tori Amos: When I was playing the songs, the night seemed to be like a celebration. And I really didn't know that it was going to feel that way. I think that sometimes when you walk into the moment in time you think you can sort of second-guess what you might feel like. You can't, right? Because first of all, there are 5,000 people there changing the energy and the tone of the evening. I'd been working, kind of preparing for about a week before I came into New York, just sort of sitting with different phrases. One of the phrases I've been sitting with is, "Nobody is anybody else's property." And obviously for a long time, if you weren't the person in power, or the race in power, or the sex in power, or the religion in power, you were somebody's property. Women and children have been property, predominantly. And men that aren't of the right race or religion have been property. As I was sitting with that phrase, RAINN started to kind of grow more roots into the ground for me. Because what is the program that I was really trying to break in myself? It's the concept that I'm anybody's property or that anybody's my property. And that's a real big thing, you know, when you start thinking about how deeply embedded that thought is. If that was truly understood as a law of the universe, and respected, this would be a very different place. - ----------------- Obviously she wasn't in a place at that time where she was ready to talk about what had happened to her. She wasnt even planning, at this point, to go right into the studio and make an album. But I get the sense that after her ordeal, it probably felt good to go out there and be her old self again with her friends and fans, something to put a little joy into her heart after that great sorrow. A funny thing happened while she and I were talking though. I had asked her about the plan to allow the piano to take a lesser role in future albums, and this is what she said: Amos: Over the years, my identity got very confusing. I think sometimes I wasn't just a piano player, I was part of the piano. I was so dependent on it for my identity that I got a little resentful of it. And I just didn't know how to develop a personality without having to bring up the fact that I was a piano player. So, with a lot of help from friends and people that have really cared, and wanted to help me develop an identity that wasn't just a piano, I've been able to do that. Now, the thing is, a friend of mine had just had a child and I was thinking about how so many women, when they have children, find that their identity stops becoming themselves first, and starts becoming 'mom' first. I talked to her about this, about how once women become moms it seems their friends tend to talk more about the baby than about the woman in question. And then she asked me if I was a mother myself. I had no idea why she was asking me about that, but thinking back there was this tone to her voice... hopefully it's not stretching it to say she sounded a little like she was yearning. It really did seem that way, although it didn't make sense at the time. Now it does. Rereading my interview, I do see one more thing that looks compelling: ATN: You've been talking about taking some time away from music. What are you thinking about doing in the future? Amos: Well, I'm getting to this space where--you know when people say they need to go into sweatlodge? I need to go into sweatlodge. And also the spa, too. (laughs) A bit of both. A bit of the spa and a pedicure and the sweatlodge. Because things need to kinda cook, and not cook too long, but cook long enough so that you can taste and go, "Mmmm... I didn't get that right." Or, "I did get that right." I'm just allowing this next work to not be rushed. It's time. I think that people who are creative on any level--and I think most people are, even if they don't realize it--you have to know that if you're talking to somebody who is a lover of gardens, it's great when you don't feel rushed, when you're racing against the season, when you haven't missed the seeding. If you're racing because you started late, that's no fun. I think if you ask any artist, one time in their life I bet they'd say they'd love to not be rushed. Even from your own self. So that's where I am right now. I don't want to rush this work. - -------------------- Maybe we can even see a reflection of something in the gardening/seeding metaphors. Anyway, I just wanted to share that with you guys. Beth - -- "The clouds never expect it when it rains But the sea changes colours but the sea does not change." (Stevie Nicks) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:50:39 EDT From: Auburn2244 Subject: Re: Rolling Stone In a message dated 98-04-13 17:35:53 EDT, you write: << I was wondering when is tori going to be in Rolling Stone???? I just looked at the latest issue( with sarah on front) and I couldn't find her in it. Is she even going to be in Roling Stone??/ thanks :) >> Just as a reminder, Tori should be in the May 5th issue of Rolling Stone which is not yet out!!! Sarah :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:05:57 -0500 From: darkfire@netcom.ca Subject: Prism Records 'lo, Just wondering if anyone here has bought Tori boots from Prism Records...the prices look really good, but I'm not sure how reliable they are. Thanks. Andrew "We all have a 'you' in our lives...someone who was to have spent the day with us and then went away for some reason." - -Douglas Coupland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:43:03 EDT From: SmerfCrazy Subject: mp3 problems i know this isnt completely tori related but i didnt know where else to turn. :) is there any type of software that can convert mp3's to WAV files? i want to make a cd-R of some tori stuff, but need to find a program that does this. anyways, if anyone can give we a website or any information regarding this, it would be really appreciated. thanks alot in advance. jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj (plastic is a disease) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:45:37 PDT From: "Hanna P." Subject: Re: A Review of the entire album! >I felt this way with BfP. Many of the songs on it were not >memorable (unlike, for me, LE or UtP) the first or second time I heard >it. I didn't feel like that really at all, but for me it was the 2nd album of hers that I got, so, I don't know, but all those songs were very memorable to me it was like after I listened to the city I was kind of connected with them. Love Always, Hanna ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:56:34 EDT From: WeirdyBoi Subject: Merman availalable for FREE online http://members.aol.com/spireishot/merman.html ~~ You can download an mp3 of the once exclusive Tori Amos song "Merman" without purchasing from Tower records or downloading the weird a2b music player thanks to EWF Christ at her website "The Little Merman" and it's absolutely Free. The song will be up on the page at about 6:30pm, 4-13-98. If you need an mp3 player, one is available for Free at www.winamp.com j' ~~ http://members.aol.com/spireishot/merman.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Tori's different. Ryan said: > I acompletely agree with whoever was saying that she appears to be > dealing with something behind the scenes (which she is most definately > enititled to) I am just worried. I think that was me you're agreeing with, there. To be clear, I didn't mean to imply anything especially pernicious or horrible, I was just trying to say she has a lot on her mind, and that she doesn't share all of it with us. I'm sure anyone thinking about it would have reached the same conclusion. No breaking news item, that. > First off, if anyone owns the RAINN video, watch it again, keeping in > mind that it was recorded less than a month after her miscarriage. Yeah, I keep meaning to watch it again. > You can totally tell. She keeps cradelling something in her arms that > isn't there, and she acts very distant and she adds lines to MANY of the > songs which refer indirectly to the miscarriage(in my opinion) I think that what you're saying may very well have a lot of validity, but I do want to add some perspective, too. She began cradling a baby in the CfG dance in Portland, Oregon on July 21, 1996--unless she began it the day before in Eugene, Oregon. The reason I say that is because with those two shows that night in Portland, I'd seen ten of eleven shows in a row. (I hadn't seen Eugene the night before.) I was struck by the cradling and defining-a-pregnant-belly moves in that Portland night, along with something else that happened in the second show that night. She did CfG in the first show, and Muhammad in the second show. In CfG was the cradling move for the first time, and in Muhammad she told the story of Christmastime with her folks, and spoke about all the children at the church. I wrote the following paragraph to someone in private mail after reading Mikewhy's review of the Indianapolis show of July 28-- No spreading this around please, as it's only a rumor, but she made a big movement around her stomach to begin the CfG dance in Portland for the first show, in a way that was to me unmistakably meant to signify pregnancy, and in the second Portland show, during the "Christmas with the 'rents" story she said something about loving children, and "I think I'll be a good mother." [!!!HELLO?!!!] Whoa! *I* got that message from her that night loud and clear. [...] She's still trying to convey this message, it sounds like. This was the mention of the cradling move in Mikewhy's Indianapolis review-- Tori then said "This is Caton. I just love Caton, bless you." Caton just blushed and he began Cornflake Girl. Tori did the most energetic and amazing version of the mime dance that I have ever seen. She went to the very edge of the stage with it, which I have never seen her do. At times she had this huge smile on her face, and she also did a move where it looked like she was cradling a baby or something. She was obviously enjoying herself. It was great, and so was the rest of the song. I since came to see the CfG dance as being full of wish-fulfillment and acting-out symbolism, along the lines of traditional Native American dances before going to war, etc. > During Cornflake Girl, she adds the line "I know that your with me girl" > repeatedly. Many times. I'll have to go back and listen to that, but I can't say I'm surprised to hear about this. To quote the Yogi Berra line, "Sometimes you can observe a lot by watching." No kidding. If one really knows a lot about Tori and sees a lot of shows, one can see all sorts of things which would go unnoticed to the casual observer. I always loved comparing notes with others who went to a ton of shows last tour. It's too bad that almost all of them seem to ride large steeds. I don't understand how that kind of person can even get enjoyment out of Tori. Weird. > I definately think Tori's anguish was recorded on that performance and I > feel almost invasive watching it with that knowledge. I have to say, watching the shows with a high state of awareness of how she's referring to such things is a trip unto itself. I never saw anyone mention this on the lists before, but I know the feeling very well. This is a lot of the value of being in communication with one another about the shows. I'd spend hours with one friend in particular who saw a lot of shows last tour comparing notes about such things. Between the two of us we'd seen more than one third of the entire DDI tour, and she's real sharp, so her observations were always important to me. I expect to be spending a lot of time with her soon. :-) Having said that, I absolutely feel funny about noticing such things, but it seems to have always been her way to deal with such stuff onstage. I'm sure there are many references that relate to things only close friends of hers would recognize. Ultimately, if she puts it out there then we can't feel *too* bad about noticing it. Some of it seems to be a game with her, to get personal comments out to individuals at the show that night, or even just to see what she can get away with without people noticing. Just part of what makes her so fascinating to me. This kind of thing is endless. I wish I had time to write a book about it. I could easily fill one. > Secondly, on the Letterman thing I saw something, but I'm not sure if > it was the same, but she was different. Her face looks totally different > on that, and in the Q magazine! Totally different! That's normal with her. She lets makeup people do anything they want to do to her face. It's been this way as long as I can remember--her looking completely different from one photo shoot or whatever to the next. The most striking time I noticed this in person was when she was on Letterman on October 4, 1996, and I'd just spent a lot of time talking with her in Baltimore twice earlier that week, and she came out onstage on Letterman looking like a china doll--her hair all curled up and cascading down her right shoulder--that was as gorgeous as I ever remember seeing her, but it wasn't the Tori I'd come to know from up close. Sure enough, the day after that Letterman aired (and it had been a Friday show taped on Thursday, too), when I saw her on Saturday, October 5 in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, it was the same Tori I'd come to be familiar with before the shows, wearing faded jeans, and with a scarf around her neck--and hair back to normal as it had been on Monday and Tuesday. Don't let that throw you. Expect it. > I think maybe she had plastic surgery, but that's beside the point. I seriously doubt she has anywhere near to enough vanity for that, and she just looked to me like Tori up close last Thursday morning. > She seemed a little sad maybe but I don't know. On Letterman? Four minutes wearing glitter eye makeup in her first public performance with her own band? She's plenty enough self-conscious doing television anyway, but with her new band, new song, new instruments, and having flown in from England only the day before, I think it's far too much of an anomalous situation to be able to determine that. > Everyone should read the Neu Revue magazine article. It is a Dutch > magazine(you can read it on the Dent I believe) The Dent points to two English translations of it, yes. Another astonishing interview. > It definately shows that this miscarriage is taking a heavy toll on her. Surely this is understandable, no? > The article also left me wondering if she really wants to be married to > Mark. Why? Because she didn't discuss him? When she was on the phone Friday being interviewed on WHFS in the D.C./Baltimore area she had the following exchange with interviewer Johnny Riggs-- JR: First I need to congratulate you. We haven't really even talked about it much on the air. And I know it's one of those private things. But, I just think if you could hold up your ring right now so we can all see that, that rock on your finger. T: How do you know it's a rock? JR: I've heard, I hear things. T: Yeah... JR: And just congratulations. No questions about it. T: Okay. Good. She just wants to keep that area of her private life private. I don't think we'll be hearing her talk about Mark the way she used to so freely talk about Eric Rosse. Part of that is likely because of the more private person Mark is, but whatever the reason, she needn't have to explain it for it to seem natural to me. > Why do I feel something really big is going on that no one knows about? > I don't think it is just the miscarriage. I really don't. I'm worried. You know, after she collapsed from exhaustion backstage in Madison, Wisconsin in 1994, I was worried sick for the rest of the tour. I saw her wrist act up in Richmond on August 17 on the DDI tour, which worried me tremendously until it turned out she was fine for the next show. I managed to feel reasonably relaxed about the DDI tour until the audio clip from before the September 16 show that Mollie and Allie's dad made came out, and I heard Tori totally *crying* before she was able to even finish one paragraph--from then on, I was on pins and needles just hoping she would get through the remainder of the tour in one piece. It's just a good thing that I read about the October 23 Miami show (where she left the stage in tears during the fourth song of the show, only to come back and finish it soon thereafter) after she'd already given another show which went okay. I can't imagine my mental state over the course of the next day had I read about it before she gave her next concert without incident. So, yeah--you *bet* I worry about her sometimes. Someone else wrote me privately a couple nights ago being all concerned for her just from having seen her on Letterman. You guys may very well be onto something, but I'm going to stick to my typical stance of waiting for more information before deciding to believe anything. I think if folks decide with too little information that they know what's really going on in a situation about which they have nowhere near enough information to make a determination, then it's probably a desire to feel more in control of their life and surroundings. Like, "I know what's going on here. The wool isn't going to be pulled over *my* eyes. No one's going to fool *me*." But often small bits of information that couldn't have been known at the time folks made up their minds a given way, turn up later to have been the innocent explanation for something which may, at first glance, have seemed to be a coverup or conspiracy. She has more than enough that I'm already aware of with the miscarriage and the new album and band for me to be able to understand why she might be scared and seem "off." As she said on L.A. radio station KROQ a week and a half ago-- T: Sneak Preview. It's sort of like this is just a peek. And I've never played with a band before, so I'm a little nervous and I wanted it to be intimate and I didn't want to sit there and to see all those people and just go, oh peep, and you know, fart. That would be horrible! So, she admits to being nervous. She's incredibly resourceful and musically savvy. I'm not at all close to being convinced there's anything other than this going on. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:36:37 -0400 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Re: $ for DC Bos Phil and Tor >How much was a ticket in each city, this weekend? It says on the RDT site >that Toronto was $37.50. I assume US cities were $30 and under. Is that >correct? ......I want to know how much to bring. >Grazie, >Joel the tickets for boston were $27.50, well worth it I must say :) - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:51:31 GMT From: Alicia Subject: HBO Ole and HBO Hello everybody. I will reply to the list because so many people asked me the same question. Is HBO Ole the same as HBO? All I know is that HBO Ole is the channel for latin America (the movies have captions in spanis or some are translated to spanish, the guy who says "this weekend on HBO Ole..." says it in spanish, I don't really know if you can get HBO Ole in other places since I've never received any other channel in my TV. I think it's like MTV Europe, MTV Latino (they speak spanish and they show the videos that sell the most in L. America), MTV Cantonese (I think there's one), MTV Brazil, etc etc... Like I said, I have no idea if regular HBO will show it (I hope so, although I'm sure that if it is shown someone in this list will post it for everybody), I should have realized most people wouldn't understand, but hey I was so excited about it I think I posted it 30 seconds after finding out!! I was just so happy because I didn't get Letterman as most of you did, I thought someone up there wanted to make it up to me! I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Take lots of care, Alicia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:03:01 +0000 From: Jon & Janet Haverman Subject: letterman video as i have done mumerous times in the past, I'd like to offer my master VHS copy of the Letterman show to anyone who is interested. I have already dubbed it onto another tape of Tori television appearances. Make tape swap offer, or small cash donation to cover expenses of tape and postage. (oh, this offer is to North American toriphiles) slainte mhath jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:16:59 -0500 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Re: Merman availalable for FREE online Was this page taken down? http://members.aol.com/spireishot/merman.html I was hoping to get Merman, but there was an error. The time is now 7:16 CST. If anyone has this in an MP3 and is willing, please email me it, or give me the new page. Thanks a bunch! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:21:41 EDT From: STAR982 Subject: Re: merman I got the email copy of Merman sent out to everybody...from what I could hear it sounded really beautiful, but it kept skipping a lot. Can someone try to send it to me again? Thanx in advance! Laura ** by the way, I have a copy of The Letterman show, and if someone wants to borrow it, that's fine with me...email me @ star982@AOL.COM ****When will you wake up, I want you more than the stars and the sun...****** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:27:15 -0500 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: I found it (Merman) Ok, for those of you having trouble finding the merman page. I didn't find it, but magically while trying to search for it. I found it in the directory for this page: http://members.aol.com/spireishot/ and VIOLA! There it was. then when my little mouse traveles over it, it says http://members.aol.com/spireishot/merman.mp3 So maybe you can travel there directly! Hope this helps! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:40:03 -0500 From: Molly Marguerite Subject: Chatting with Tori Hi all I got on in Tori chat just went in through the main page in Yahoo Chat...Yahoo chat keeps an archive of the transcripts so probably pretty soon they will have one up... it was great she didn't get to answer my question but she said a lot of interesting things...three things she would want on a dessert island: Her lipgloss, Her husband and olive oil..(which she said later lubes the vocal chords). She talked about diet restrictions and working out during the tour, how to behave in the clubs , making magic, gave a long list of good books, about being photocopied, what she would be if she wasn't a musician, what animal she would be, what she wants to be remembered for....and so much more it was wonderful. There were some jerks in there but she cloud only read the questions given to her not all the chatting going on. Molly Marguerite ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:47:54 -0500 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (Dust A Bunny) Subject: FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY SOMEONE BETTER HAVE A TRANSCRIPT! Hello my pretty little horses, I hope someone got a transcript of that Tori chat thing because I will just cry if no one did. My sister gets all upset when I get online and she can't, leading to lots of screaming and yelling in my household, so I decided to stay offline and see if any of you lovely peoples copy and pasted. Please say you did. I would be forever grateful. Someone said she is doing a bigger venue tour after Europe. Well, if that's true there is hope yet for us Houstonians. Hell, I don't know. I'm listening to Radio head and that "rain down" part of Paranoid Android makes me so flowy. I love it. Anywho, that's off topic. I don't like Raspberry Swirl at all. It's too technoish (sorry, I absolutely hate techno, always have). But Jackie's Strength is wonderful. I can't download Playboy Mommy. It says there is an error. Boo. Well take care. Bi bi. Me, the Flea "Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again." - - Tori Amos _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:06:35 -0400 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Leno Tori will be on leno May 12th.... not the 10th , thats what I thought - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:21:56 -0600 From: allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox) Subject: Tori Amos: Star Profile Hi guys- Ryan and I have been wondering what "Tori Amos: Star Profile" that I found on the dent is? I'm specifically looking for the ISBN (International Standard Book Number) to it, if there is one. Like I said be4, I work in a bkstore and can get it at a good price (for me and others, with some postage) if someone can get me the ISBN. (Hope that solves some questions for ya, Ryan; I don't know much more than you do, really) :) Warren PS, Also, I've written Tori a letter so if anyone can repeat the address given a few weeks ago, I would love you. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:53:55 PDT From: "Hanna P." Subject: Address and Letterman Does anyone know any address other than her one at Spivak because I have written to Spivak many times, but I have also been told that the letters sent to Tori c/o spivak entertainment don't get to her, but for anyone who wants the address here it is: Tori Amos C/O Spivak Entertainment 11845 West Olympic Blvd., Ste 1125 Los Angeles, CA 90064 If that helps anyone, but I want to know if there is another one. Anyone? Also on Letterman, I don't know when, it was like right after they got back from the break from that little girl talking Dave said something about Tori Amos to the crowd and all I heard was her name, anyone there know what he was saying? After he said that he said like "Tori Amos coming up next" went to another break, came back and she played, but I was wondering what he said about her that you couldn't hear. That's all. Thanks. Love Always, Hanna ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:50:19 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: CODs? Lyn asked: >Okay, here's the thing...I want to order some of Tori's stuff online but I >want to be able to pay AFTER it gets here. I've been to a lot of sights but >none of them accept CODs. Is there any recommendations? I can't name a store offhand that I'm sure that does COD orders. If you order with credit card, not only do they deal with any exchange rates {a wonderful wonderful thing!}, if you have any trouble with your purchase {like not getting it}, you can complain to your CC company and they can help you resolve the issue with the store. I've had to do this once, and my credit card company bent over backwards to help me out. If you don't have a credit card and can't get ahold of one, or for whatever reason are stuck on the idea of COD, I'd suggest emailing a company that you're interested in and asking them if they're willing to do that for you. I can't imagine why a company wouldn't do it, but be aware that it will definitely cost you significantly more in shipping and handling charges. /nad ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #137 *************************************