From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #135 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, April 12 1998 Volume 03 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: pronunciation [Richard Handal ] 4-track promo ["K. Fischer" ] Boston tori tix [Dominic Marullo ] tori.com and MERMAN [lilchibi@flash.net] Tori in London Times [Tickle-Me-Marlys ] if you are going to ANY city concert before 4/30 [Joni Doe24 ] AGH!! ["Jennifer Jacobsen" ] Tori on Letterman (was Re: pronunciation) ["stasia halyn" ] Re: the "Merman" deal [Alicia ] site [Zuezette ] Re: the "Merman" deal [Dave Woodson ] grr. (letterman) [coquette ] Tori, changed? [JiVa DiVa ] Re: 4-track promo [coquette ] the many joys of moderating [Michael Curry ] ORPHEUM [Khloegirl ] Philly Tickets [heffnern@mail.cvn.net (heffnern)] Re: Tori Chat?? [Anavrin560 ] About Tori And Dave [Pro Widow ] I love David Letterman [forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (Dust A Bunny)] Boston Ticket Wanted [rlones@juno.com (Marla/Antigone E. F.)] ADMIN: MIME and HTML messages [Michael Curry ] Tori's Most Powerful Performance Ever [Tripp Gwyn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:21:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: pronunciation Stasia asked: > What is the proper pronunciation of Tori's last name? Well, the only way I ever heard *her* pronounce it on the radio was AY-miss. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: 4-track promo I realize this is a long shot, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. I am looking for a copy of the 4-track promo for Spark. I have all sorts of items for trade, but I am also willing to pay for it. If you have a copy you are willing to trade then let me know what items you might like in return or what price you are looking for. Thanks, Karin fischera@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:35:16 -0500 From: Dominic Marullo Subject: Boston tori tix hi, i just got back from getting my voucher and i want to tell you what it was like. at 5pm there were only 13 people at the orpheum...i left. i came back at 11pm and i was number 79. there was a brilliant person there named brian who had a notebook and numbered everyone. the orpheum guys went by his numbers and we lined up accordingly at 6am by writing our number in our spot with chalk. they let tons of people in but had to turn away many. that is the brifest possible account i can give of my 11 hours in line. if you want to know more, email me. thanks, dominic ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:30:31 -0500 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: tori.com and MERMAN Ok, I finnally got through by tping the location www.tori.com and then it took me to the IP addy and works. I remember clicking on something like photo of the day and to get the photo of the day you hafta be a member and they give you the registration window! I registered and remembered saying that they were giving the WINDOWS members the song, and a diff bonus for mac users. Anyhoo after I regis'ed it brought me to this: You are signed in as a member and ready to experience the full site. Please choose a selection below, or select an area from the menu at the top right. If you have your unique code for the bonus track download, click on "a2b music internet music exclusive". Are they planning to give members this UNIQUE CODE? I didn't get it! Ok, someone who gets through, when you register.. can you copy down what the rules and other info they give... because I tried to sue the back feature on my browser but it just reloaded. Wierd. But I wanna know what the terms and conditions were... Please and thanks to anyone who figures this out. laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:03:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Tickle-Me-Marlys Subject: Tori in London Times Hey guys. This is from yesterday's London Times (10 April) and offers some decent insight as to the choir-girls. Enjoy. Sex, rape and now her miscarriage: there is little that Tori Amos won't turn into a song. No wonder, then, that to some she is a crazed egotist, to others a victim. James Bennett puts the case for the defence. Could marriage to Mark change things? The big interview - No pain, no gain It has been six years now since Tori Amos, piano prodigy and flame-haired preacher's daughter, emerged on to the world stage and sang so bewitchingly about the "antichrist in her kit-chen" on the first track of her 1992 debut album, Little Earthquakes. And after spending two harrowing hours with the singer as she prepares to release her fourth album from the choirgirl hotel, I have to report that she is as arresting as ever. On Playboy Mommy, a key track on the new album, you will hear her blaming herself for a traumatic miscarriage. She sings: "In my platforms I hit the floor/ fell face down/ then the baby came/ before I found/ the magic how/ to keep her happy." She goes on to plead: "Don't judge me so harsh little girl/ so, you've got a playboy mommy." Hard to tell whether she is being literal or metaphorical - it always is with Tori - but this miscarriage informs the entire album. If her debut was the "rape album" (Tori was raped by a fan in the Eighties when she gave him a lift after a gig), and 1996's Boys For Pele was the "break-up album" (Tori split with her boyfriend of seven years), then this is the "miscarriage album". However, we do have happier things to talk about first. Heard you just got married Tori. "Yes I did - two weeks ago. I've hardly told anyone, but with the Internet you can't keep anything secret. He's really, really private and I try to respect that. It's very precious and very fragile too." The pictures also made it to Hello! magazine. Did she wear white? "Blue," she whispers. "Ice blue." Tori has changed little since I first met her around the time of Little Earthquakes. Now 34, she seems less orange, less fiery, more assured. But interviewing her is still an intense and bewildering experience. Uncomfortably long pauses punctuate the conversation. Sometimes she turns inwards, goes into a trance; her eyes mist over. She has married her sound engineer, Lincolnshire-born Mark Hawley. Anyone familiar with Tori's work, the way she has constantly raged against the Almighty, may be surprised that she saw fit to sanctify her union in His sight. She seems surprised herself, and almost apologetic at having done something so conventional, so very uncool. "How do I reconcile it?" Thirty-second pause. "I never had a fantasy of being a bride as a child after I realised that Robert Plant would never marry me. And with Dad being a preacher, I saw too many weddings. You see, I don't think I could ever have gotten married in America." It was in Britain, then? "Yep" In a church? "Yep. A little old church in West Wycombe." In this way, the details trickle out. She continues: "I don't feel an intense religious vibe here in this country. All that shaming and guilt I was brought up with, all that stuff I heard from my grandmother: you stay a virgin till you're married, then you give your body to your husband and your soul to Jesus and don't keep anything for yourself, Uh-uh, not me." So did she promise to obey? "No, no, no. Love and honour." And how does it feel to be married? There is a pause so long that I think she has forgotten I'm here with her. "I think I'm still in shock. I'm trying to be honest with you, and yet . . ." It transpires that Tori is scared of what may happen to a woman when she marries. "I hired a physical trainer (sic) this week. I start tomorrow. I don't want to just like get married and then become a blob. I really . . . You see, I didn't get married because I didn't have anything to do. I really looked at this man and thought 'this person is incredibly unique and I don't want to be with anybody else'." This man? This person? She laughs. "I'm trying not to say his name. I know you know it but it feels more private, you know, if I don't say it. I wanted the wedding to be real private, just our friends. But family is tricky. It's like the f**king Waltons, my family - they'll all show up like critters crawling out from under the Appalachian mountains and be at your door with a banjo." Her father, however, did give her away. Back to the apology: "I thought about it, and if I'd got married in front of a judge, well, that wouldn't have meant anything to me. And, sure, I could have got married in the middle of the mountains and all the other nature spirits could have been there, but . . . In the end I tried to find a place that was very sacred. This place was an ancient site since the Bronze Age, and a pagan one before it was a church, and the vicar honoured that." Ah, pagan - this is more the Cornflake Girl we know. She is a rare animal, Tori Amos. Part Cherokee (on her mother's side), part Scarlett O'Hara, raised downhome Southern style in Carolina. She's a choirgirl who can screech like a banshee. A preacher's daughter who sang about menstruation on her first album, masturbation on her second and castration on her third. A trained classical pianist (practising scales from the age of two-and-a-half), who turned into a Led Zep fan and a honky-tonk harlot, legs wide astride on stage. Some, particularly insecure male critics, find it convenient to pigeonhole her as Ginger Nut, in the scheme of things where women singers must be categorised as either bimbos (Kylie) or basket cases (Björk). Some, having heard that rape song, Me and A Gun, see her chiefly as a victim. Tori's language is full of these contradictions. It can go from cutesy to coarse in a flash. Like a little old Southern lady she asks me: "How's your sweetheart, James?" Still sweet, I reply. As far as interviews are concerned, she doesn't really do sentences. Thoughts hitch a ride mainstream. Metaphors go wild. If you heard some of it, coming raw off my tape recorder, you would think her barely literate. And I would direct you to her last album, and ask you to find a more powerful, more economic, description of heartbreak than this one from Hey Jupiter: "If my heart is soaking wet/ boy your boots can leave a mess." Look inside the sleeve of that last album and you will find a picture of Tori offering her breast to a piglet. There should by rights be a baby at that breast now. Tori tells me what happened: "I finished the Boys for Pele tour at the end of 1996 - and surprisingly I got pregnant. With Mark's child. I got to three months. I had really gotten used to the idea, and I thought I was out of the woods. Then I miscarried. I didn't intend to make another album so soon, but that's when the songs started to come." So while other artistes often talk of their new albums as their "babies", this, the new Tori album, is as close as it gets. Her eyes are quickly misting over. "When it happened you have to know I asked every question I could possibly come up with." Asked who? God? (You have to keep interrupting Tori and coaxing out specifics.) Disjointed words tumble out: "You bet. I was dragging God around by the balls. "I was saying, like, look at this f**king mother in this mall somewhere in the South, where I was, and she like totally whops the kids, just hits them, and you're going, you know, there's so many people who don't want their kids, don't love them, don't care for them. It's just . . . I feel like you're an under-achiever." She is shouting now, and pinning me to my chair with an accusing glare. An under-achiever? Me? "No, God. I'm always talking to the Christian God like this. The way I was bought up was 'Thy will, not my will', and I'm always arguing with that." God may move in mysterious ways, but Tori is dogging his every step. All this by way of explaining why she became Mrs Mark Hawley, and she finishes up: "After all that trauma, you know, Mark said 'Hey, we're in this together'. And we thought about it, and he . . . he asked me. And I just . . . I went . . . I just looked, and it felt like: 'Yes. This is my dear friend . . .' " So now Tori Amos, a married non-mother, is back in the public arena with from the choirgirl hotel and forthcoming tour. After six years as one woman-and-her-piano, she is now in a band, and where the previous album featured tacked-on rhythm tracks on only six of the 17 songs, this one has beats incorporated throughout. She explains: "You know I'm a huge control freak, but this time I really wanted to interact with other players. Eric (the former lover), of all people, came by and said he knew just the drummer for me." This was Matt Chamberlain. "I met with him and played with him and my jaw just dropped to the floor. Wow, psychic rhythm!" A guitarist, bass player and programmer were then recruited. "It's a joy to play with them. And its not like they work out a track and I come in and put a vocal on top. It has to be live." Does the advent of this psychic rhythm have anything to do with the Armand Van Helden dance remix of Professional Widow which took Tori to No 1 last year, although it featured little more from the original track than her chopped-up vocal line: "Honey, bring it close to my lips?" And has she ever danced to it herself? "Absolutely. While drinking margaritas on the bus, on tour in the mid-West." Then she gets a little defensive: "Van Helden did an amazing job, but it's not like I'm saying 'Hey, make something of my work please. I'm not waiting for the wizard to come and make it OK for me." It did, however, spur her on to consider new ways of using rhythm in her own work, a process which began in a most bizarre way. "I would play my body in the shower and then start singing around it. I was writing songs completely around playing my flesh, knowing a drummer would later take it to the tenth power." This breast-beating concluded in several months of recording in the 300-year-old Cornish barn which Tori (who also has homes in Miami and Ireland) has converted into a studio. Discussion of the resulting album inevitably leads back to the miscarriage, since several songs are about or addressed to the child she lost. She calls it "the spirit". Disjointed words tumble out again, that faraway look in the eyes: "After it happened, I mean, how do you find? Where do you go and look for souls that are gone? I needed to communicate. I didn't think about what she needed. Then I thought that maybe she didn't choose me as a mom. Then I got pissed off and thought, 'OK, go and choose Susan down the street then, that right-wing Christian bitch'." I put it to her that she is giving herself a hard time again. What does she have to feel so guilty about? "I wasn't really healthy when I got pregnant. I let myself go down - but there are heroin addicts who have healthy babies, so why . . .? "Look, it was just something I went through and then finally what I went through was surrendering. This is out of my hands. If this spirit doesn't want to come or can't come for whatever reason, well OK. I'm here. I'll keep myself open. Although for a while there I was so angry it was: 'No way - you don't even get a chance to come back'." I have to interrupt. You think she will come back? "I don't know. I don't think so now. But at the time I was so connected to this spirit. I had a deep conversation with this spirit. I was communicating with a being on another plane." This is nerve-racking. Tori, can I smoke? "Absolutely. I'll be mentally smoking with you." She calms down. I take a deep drag. She starts talking about God again. "The Christian God is alive and well and I usually go out with him every six weeks. Just for a good binge. "Seriously, there are so many energies out there, and there is some kind of force . . . father, Lucifer, whatever . . . but they've all been made into Disney rides: go on this one, try this one. Which one is better? "Obviously I believe in The Design but I don't always agree with it. You know, the thing I hated most was when people told me 'it's all for the best'." She is back to the miscarriage. She can't talk about anything else. She's shouting. I'm shaking. "Don't tell me it's all for the best. DON'T YOU EVER TELL ME THAT." Suddenly she is back when it happened and it all pours out. I haven't asked, but she insists on telling, in a trembling monologue, half to herself. "I got in the truck. An hour's drive to the hospital. I'd been at the beach and I started bleeding and I was in pain. I drove myself because, you know, I didn't want anyone driving. I would have crawled out of my skin . . . I had to do something. And, you know, I was asking myself 'Is there anything I can do to save this life? Stick a cork inside yourself Tori' . . . and then we got there, into the room and the nurse broke down and cried. She put me on the table, gave me this scan. I reached out to her and said 'I'm so sorry.' And I said, 'Let me see it,' and it was just . . . It was just one of those things." Her tears have dried by the time I give her a long hug and leave. Everyone has their own way of dealing with the tortures God or fate or chance inflict on us. On one track from the album, Tori sings: "Celebrate/you're top ten in the charts of pain." That's Tori's way. The single, Spark, is released on EastWest on April 20; the album, from the choirgirl hotel, is re leased on May 4. Tori Amos's British tour starts in Liverpool on May 20. - ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie tugboat@channel1.com "It's easier to fall in love when there's distance between hearts. Thank you for once loving me and letting me once love you." -- Thomas Lomaccio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:11:44 EDT From: Joni Doe24 Subject: if you are going to ANY city concert before 4/30 let me know how many t-shirts they are selling, if there is a tour book, ect. i need to know how much cash to bring ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:16:14 +0200 From: richard68@globalxs.nl Subject: saving realaudio files Hi everybody, I heard Spark on the excellent website. Now, the thing is, I'd like to save the file (at least till the single's out). Can this be done? Thanks, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:52:48 EDT From: Zuezette Subject: it works Hello all.. First off tori on David was AMAZING!!!! and second off...i've been having the same problem as a lot of you in getting on the tori site..."this site does not exist" until about 11:00p.m. it is now 1:48 est. and it works for me, so you may want to try it again....and aol users...it seems to work more oftern for me when you first log in and you are given the welcome screen with the mailbox, and the oval yellow globe egg looking thing that says "internet"...go there, and then type it in at the box in the middle that has www.aol.com....it works there now... with love amanda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:20:54 -0500 From: "Jennifer Jacobsen" Subject: AGH!! Did someone tape Tori's performance last night? My dumb self accidently taped it at the wrong time. I taped it Eastern time when I should have taped it Central time. I am used to Florida time and not Alabama time. I would greatly appreciate it and would be more than willing to send you a tape. I want to see Tori but missed it. I would really appreciate it. Please let me know. Jenn - -- "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:19:27 PDT From: "stasia halyn" Subject: Tori on Letterman (was Re: pronunciation) That's it! 'Amiss' I say it that way too, I just couldn't think to put it like that. Anyway, god wasn't Tori amazing? She looked great, sounded great, and...wow, speechless. I am in a total trance. The way she sounded so pissed off in one part of the song and so sad in another. Tori works magic like that. And she sounds so great with the band. They are all very talented folks as well, obviously. And the way she switched back and forth, awesome! My favorite thing was at the end when she whispered into the microphone. That gave me chills. Then that cute lil Tori smile when she finished. Also, her glittery eyemakeup was cool, but that's beside the point. stasia (still in shock) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:23:44 EDT From: JiVa DiVa Subject: Tori, changed? I know I'm not the only one who's noticed the significant "change" in Tori. I'm not talking so much about her musical style but her. It's something behind her eyes. In a way she seems so much happier, but there seems to be a deeper pain in her than before. In a way, she seems more "human" to me, but more distant as well. I know with everything she's been through--- to use the roller coster cliche/metaphor--- I'm just wondering if anyone else would like to comment on this. I don't want anyone to take what I'm saying wrong. I'm not saying anything bad about Tori. I love her, and I respect and admire her now more than ever. I've never seen her as lovely as she was on Letterman last night. But my heart goes out to her. I wonder if this "music making stuff" is really what she wants to be doing right now.... just a thought or two. >*< jiva ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:15:03 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: the "Merman" deal Warren wrote: >But, in a slightly different direction, someone in here mentioned >that one would be able to hook audio equiptment into their computer to >record the song. I have a question... If somebody hooked up his or her computer to another computer and copies Merman from one to the other (I read somebody else said this but I deleted the e-mail.. sorry), then the copy would not be protected against copiers, right? Because if that's so, then it would only take one person to make a copy, and make it available for everyone in the net... bye bye Tower's attempt to create a monopoly. But then again, what if they get really angry at this and decide to sue all the people who have Merman downloadable in theit homepages. Can they sue people from another countries? If they can't I'm sure there'd be lots of non-US Toriphilies willing to put it up in their homepages. I'd even be willing to CREATE my own page (if I knew how)! When you think like this everything seems so... possible! Alicia. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:28:19 EDT From: Zuezette Subject: site ANother update on the site... like i said, it seems to be working now (for me at lease...though it wasn't working until 2 a.m.est.) The fact that all of the video's are available is absolutely wonderful....Though considering this is a farely new technology...there seems to be some bugs...(obviously)...And even at two am there was enough congestion on the site to interupt the looping video about 4 times a video, and about 5 seconds at a time....and to be expected, the video's were a bit blocky....though the fact that they are there is a greatness in itself, considering that my luck was NEVER there when i turned on MTV as for seeing tori video's....I was very very impressed with caught a lite sneeze...(Like a big bowl of eye-candy)...Maybe when the traffic there cools down a bit...then access will be a bit eaiser...As for the rest of the site...it was beautiful...expecially the wallpaper...tori was trapped in my computer....I had her all for my own...and other thing that i assume will be cleared up in time is that the siter seems sort of congested, not with traffic so mch but just visual stuff...i found it kind of hard to take in...there is so much stuff on the site, and only about 4 sections...That the titles don't really seem much to relate to the inside until you've been there...and the back ground is dark...so that doesn't help much either....and there is a constant obnoxious banner at the bottom...grrrr well that's enought. i'm sure you all can get on the site now anyway... bye XOXO amanda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:04:05 -0700 From: Dave Woodson Subject: Re: the "Merman" deal Violet wrote: >I don't care how they do it, though. As I said before, I REFUSE to buy my >copy from Tower specifically because of this "deal." >If we ALL pay for the album, we should ALL get the song. I don't think >that's an unreasonable expectation for my having given them a pretty chunk >of change for a myriad of Tori goods over these past six years. >So I'm boycotting this BS. Even if I'm the only person who does, and Tower >and AT&T and Atlantic and their pet duck don't give a crap, at least *I'll* >still know I wasn't anyone's puppet. >As far as I'm concerned, this "Merman" deal is a slap in the face for all >of us. I am not going to buy at Tower either. I think it's a case of corporate people using the internet like a shiny new toy without actually understanding it at all. The offer itself is simply too limited as far as who can take advantage of it, even if it wasn't a blatant attempt to herd Toriphiles away from their regular record stores. I am really not concerned enough to get upset about it though. It is stupid corporate BS, but I don't believe the song will actually be unavailable, and even in the unlikely event that it is...well...guess what...I've never heard Strange Fruit, or Lovesong, or If 6 Was 9, or Gary's Girl, or all the never released stuff from the BfP sessions or any number of other things Tori has recorded or played throughout the years. Some of it, I may hear someday, some I might not. The fact that I might not hear every sneeze and cough that Tori ever committed to tape won't make my experience of her unsatisfactory or incomplete. And this is the heart of the matter; Tower and Atlantic, assuming they don't realize how fast their "Exclusive" track will be bootlegged, seem to think they can lure you away from where you normally buy your music by offering one single bonus track, in an almost uselessly limited format. This depends on the completist mentality, and on an unwillingness to wait and not be among the first to have any given Tori item. I do not like the idea of collectible music. Limited Edition collector's discs are fine; buy them or don't. But the music itself should be made available to all buyers. If a single goes out of print and becomes rare, that's one thing, because it was available at one time, but songs should not be made scarce from the beginning, and the big corporate record chains shouldn't be given yet more ammunition to wipe out local stores. As far as I am concerned, buy where you want to and disregard this offer, unless you absolutely must be the first one on your block to have all things Tori, or you're one of the helpful people who are going to "liberate" the song from Tower and Bill Gates. The track will be available to you sooner or later anyway, and with all the other "new girls" to listen to, can't the 12 tracks you get with the album and all the single b-sides tide you over until Merman is available on a more realistic and less limited, corporate butt-kiss format? In other words, I agree with Violet. It's a dumb idea, and we shouldn't reward them en masse for having it. Don't let yourself be manipulated by these corporate games. You won't miss out if you say no. I wouldn't waste too much emotional energy being mad at Atlantic or Tower for this though. If there's anything that's really pissing me off about how things are being handled, it's the way that radio stations are screwing up the club tour for their own benefit. KROQ basically ruined the entire concept of the tour for the L.A. Toriphiles by running their ad blitz and then turning the ticket sales into a lottery after insuring that demand was artificially inflated. Now they have a captive audience for all the promo tickets that they are giving out, which they cheated the Toriphiles out of with their self serving crap. I really wanted to see that show, but from the accounts I have read, I'm glad I wasn't there. I don't blame Tori for the screw-ups regarding this tour, I think it is wonderful she's doing it, and I'm glad at least some of us will get the experience. The crap that's gone down just shows what she's up against, and how difficult it is to keep the money people from spoiling things. In the end, all of us will have a new Tori album, the usual variety of singles, interviews, TV appearances and a regular tour later in the year, where most of us will see at least one show. Compared to all that, Tower's stupid little game is pretty insignificant. You'll be happier if you concentrate on all the things you have to look forward to, not the one or two that you might not get, or that you might have to wait a bit longer for. - -Dave "Everybody that comes into contact with us, once they realize the Spice Girls are human beings, they get a different view of what we're about" - -Geri Halliwell [Ginger Spice] "I am...grates..full...grape..fruit" "The future is not set - -Bjork at Brit Awards There is no fate except that which we make "Know your Teachers, Learn all you Can, for ourselves" Then go Teach what you have Learned. -John Connor "Terminator" For That is the True Secret to Life." - -Beth Coulter "I make rough seas. I set the jungle on fire. I'm a bad influence." Marlene Dietrich in "Seven Sinners" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:53:03 -0500 From: coquette Subject: grr. (letterman) i must've been on crack or something last night becuase as i was driving home around 2:30 a.m. i realised that i forgot to tape tori on letterman.. i was wondering if any of you would kindly share wif me..? i have no tapes to trade (i have videos but can't hook vcrs up together) but i can send songs.. i have the promo.. thanks, ana i'm no fucking buddhist, but this is enlightenment. http://www.overlap.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:23:44 EDT From: JiVa DiVa Subject: Tori, changed? I know I'm not the only one who's noticed the significant "change" in Tori. I'm not talking so much about her musical style but her. It's something behind her eyes. In a way she seems so much happier, but there seems to be a deeper pain in her than before. In a way, she seems more "human" to me, but more distant as well. I know with everything she's been through--- to use the roller coster cliche/metaphor--- I'm just wondering if anyone else would like to comment on this. I don't want anyone to take what I'm saying wrong. I'm not saying anything bad about Tori. I love her, and I respect and admire her now more than ever. I've never seen her as lovely as she was on Letterman last night. But my heart goes out to her. I wonder if this "music making stuff" is really what she wants to be doing right now.... just a thought or two. >*< jiva ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:00:53 -0500 From: coquette Subject: Re: 4-track promo > >*Raspberry Swirl*--If any song off this album hits heavy air and club play, >this is it! All the ingredients of a radio hit--distorted sounds, >unintelligible lyrics and a great tribal dance beat in the background. And >a big plus--the simulated *sounds* underneath it all embarresses my oh so >mature 16 year old daughter. *Oohh, Ahh, Sigh* *giggle* ;) > i didn't like raspberry swirl at first when i heard it.. i was like, wtf - this isn't tori. but it really grew on me. the one thing though.. why was everyone comparing it to portishead? raspberry swirl is so absolutely nothing like portishead.. it's just got that generic dance beat going on (but tori plays her piano like percussion along wif the beat.. pretty coolio). does anyone else hear a male voice in the end? - -a i'm no fucking buddhist, but this is enlightenment. http://www.overlap.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:07:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: the many joys of moderating Hi all, Two recent events, the new official Tori web page and her appearance on Letterman, have resulted in a deluge of email being sent to the list. If you sent a message about how you were unable to access Atlantic's newly revamped Tori site be assured that you were not alone, lots of people had trouble. I chose not to send the pile of messages all saying "I can't access the site!" to the list, but I will send through any technical advice people have on how to make accessing the site easier. There were also a lot of glowing comments about Tori's appearance on Letterman last night. In an attempt to keep the list volume relatively sane I'm probably going to send through just some of those comments. If yours doesn't make it to the list it is not a comment on your opinions or your writing style, I'm just trying not to flood mailboxes with a pile of messages that all say the same thing. Mike precious-things co-owner | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:59:04 EDT From: Khloegirl Subject: ORPHEUM I think praising Brian went a bit too far. He tried to take the credit for the idea until I corrected him in front of a few of his adorers. Maybe I'm just a bit cranky from no sleep due to the wonderful group next to me who screamed all night long and made fun of everybody calling them "white trash". Is it me? I remember at the Wang in '96 I was the happiest little girl alive before that show. Everybody was so friendly and I met the most delicious friends. Has her fan base changed? In the audiTORIum I felt as though I was back in High School. People were bitching that they couldn't sit where they wanted to and yelling for everybody to be quiet while our intructions were being given. Did we not learn in 3rd grade that it is such behavior that actually increase the noise level. In addition to this I think the 30 some odd people who screamed ignorantly for that man to "SPEAK UP" should be banned from her show completely. I'm disappointed. I went there looking to make some new friends and came home disgusted. I never expected to encounter such snobbery and ignorance. Again, is it just me? Anyone share a similar view on this? Or am I just looking to be bashed? BTW, this doesn't go for everybody. I met a few groovy people and even woke some of them up! (Sorry Dominic) K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:18:09 -0400 From: heffnern@mail.cvn.net (heffnern) Subject: Philly Tickets Can anyone tell me, is the Philly show sold out? This means a great deal to know this. Nicole~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:46:03 EDT From: Anavrin560 Subject: Re: Tori Chat?? as far as I know don't worry about the sonic net thing, I was on the Yahoo chat yesterday and there was some lady from Lost in Space, just go onto the Yahoo chat monday and there will be an option there to chat with Tori, just dot the box and go. :-) carol :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:18:33 EDT From: Pro Widow Subject: About Tori And Dave Okay, this is the first time Ive seen Tori on Dave Letterman. Did he EVER talk to her on his past shows? Cause they didnt speak on this show. Well, i loved the performance! Especialy the bridge "how many fates" in the lower octave of the piano, and not the higher portion. I also loved the smoothe piano to keyboard transitions. AWESOME. But the glitter kept throwing me off. I thought she would get it in her eye or something. CATON ALSO ROCKED ON GUITAR! YEAH!!!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:05:22 -0500 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (Dust A Bunny) Subject: I love David Letterman Hello my pretty little horses, OH MY GOD!!! Tori's Letterman appearance was wonderful. I almost cried. Seriously. I had chills. I really need to go to Atlantic and steal some cds or something. I can't watch this long for her. My mum says she looks like crap with all that sparkly stuff around her eyes and she got chubbier. But I proclaimed my everlasting love for Tori. My mum is loco. Tori is still absolutely gorgeous. God, I'm like still glowing from that. Ever noticed how when she started out she wore like no make-up and nailpolish and now she seems to love that stuff. More power to her. I can't live without my eyeliner. God, the only down part of this watching the Letterman thing is knowing I won't be able to see the same thing again somewhere in Houston. Why can't she stop by Houston on her tour? Argh, since I taped it; I am going to watch it again. Take care. Bi bi. Me, the Flea "You can't have grace without the whores." - - Tori Amos _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:15:46 -0400 From: rlones@juno.com (Marla/Antigone E. F.) Subject: Boston Ticket Wanted *sigh* So I didn't get a ticket to the Boston show. Did ANYONE buy two tickets hoping to sell one of them? I will not only pay for the ticket, but I will give you copies of some tapes from my collection (including one that isn't on my list). [wanna see? http://members.aol.com/antigone19/Toriamos/Toriboot.html] If anyone can help me, let me know. Marla (marlantigone) - --- http://www.KrebStar.com Your New Favorite Band _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:55:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: ADMIN: MIME and HTML messages A reminder that messages encoded in MIME and/or HTML will not make it to the list, so before you send anything pleas be sure your mailer is set to send things as just ordinary plain text. Mike precious-things co-owner | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:00:19 -0400 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Tori's Most Powerful Performance Ever WOW! Last night's peformance on Letterman was just too much. Tori was simply stunning. Her vocals sound so different than from her previous works. The only thing I'm a little sad about is the fact that I liked the Letterman version even better than the album version. When she got to the How many fates, and ended with the POWERFUL Say you don't want it again and again, my eyes were filled with tears. The album version has emotion, but not the emotion of her performance last night. I think I'm going to have to copy that onto CD. I really pray someone will record the concerts. Tripp Gwyn tgwyn@infoave.net ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #135 *************************************