From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #118 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, April 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NYC (irving Plaza) ticket info [Michael Curry ] Re: they're baaaack... [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Cornwall again [Ken Tough ] Re: list moderation [Kaj-Michael Lang ] (KTS and how I learned to hate AOL) [Adia 509 ] Philly Fakeout [Beth Coulter ] CHICAGO PEOPLE!!!!!**** please read(thanks ) [FareyFreak ] Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. ["Mike Gray" ] Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. [AKlink8489 ] Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. ["Mike Gray" Subject: NYC (irving Plaza) ticket info > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:55:01 -0500 > From: Webmaster > To: CYBERCASTS > Subject: IRVING PLAZA UPDATE 04/1/98 - -----==================================================----- + JUST ANNOUNCED AT IRVING PLAZA! + - -----==================================================----- TORI AMOS sneak preview '98 "plugged" April 23 Tickets: $30.00 Vouchers On Sale Saturday, April 4 @ 10am MAXIMUM 2 TICKETS PER PERSON - -----==================================================----- VOUCHERS will be sold at The Irving Plaza Box Office at 10am. Sales are cash only. Line up time will begin at 7am. Must have a valid photo ID:(Driver's License, Passport, or State Issued ID Card). - -----==================================================----- Tickets: Tickets are available for purchase in person from the Irving Plaza Box Office and through Ticketmaster. Payment Accepted: Cash Only at Box Office Box Office Hours: Noon-6:00PM Mon-Sat - Closed on Sundays. Box Office Phone: (212) 777-6800 Concert Hotline: (212) 777-1224 Address: 17 Irving Place, New York, NY 10003 Doors Open: 8pm; unless otherwise noted. All shows produced by Delsener / Slater Enterprises SFX Entertainment - -----==================================================----- IRVING PLAZA Donates 25 cents to LIFEBEAT for every ticket sold. (The Music Industry Fights AIDS) We invite you to match our donation! - -----==================================================----- ************************************************************ TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send eMail to: lists@inside.irvingplaza.com with the SUBJECT: unsubscribe concert-club (note the eMail must come from the address you want removed) ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:50:30 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: they're baaaack... On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 geministar@webtv.net wrote: > I just went to the site, and I had a question about track 15 on the boot > "Broken Stone" ('96). It's a song called "Sweet" that I had never heard > anything about before . . . any deep thoughts anyone? Bootlegs are notorious for making errors on songs [1]. Sometimes they're just typos, but there are enough errors that are just stupid on the part of the bootleggers. For a complete -correct- track listing, check out the Tori-boot discography at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/4370/tabdnew.html :) /nad [1] Not to say that legitimate CDs don't make errors, too. For example, the promo misleadingly titled "New Music from Tori Amos", released just before BfP came out {with not a single new song on it}, mislabeled Precious Things as "These Precious Things". Oops! *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:32:21 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: Cornwall again Beth Winegarner wrote: >> since I wouldn't say anything of rural ireland shone through >> on BfP, or New Mexico on UtP. >Really? I feel like I can, although I can't put my finger on how or why most >of the time. I would call it the 'tones.' That's a good way of describing how I could see UtP's New Mexico influence, since (never having been there) I think it's all pinks and shades of ochre and airy. I don't hear it much in the album itself, but certainly in Famous Blue Raincoat, even though that does have the zinger "I hear you're building a house deep in the desert" >which are also present in >the American South) are all over BfP, and same with the desert tones of New >Mexico on UtP. And then there's more audible things -- like the steer in >"Professional Widow." :) Oh yeah, the Deep South influence in BfP I accept entirely. (How could you not, since it's so prevalent in the artwork. I was disappointed that the only influence in the artwork I saw in UtP was on the Cornflake Girl UK Ltd, and there wasn't anything of Ireland in BfP. It would be nice to see something of Cornwall in the artwork of FtCgH, especially "Black Dove (January)" and Pandora's Aquarium, which lyrics really strike home (so to speak) for me. cheers, - -- Ken Tough Cornwall, U.K. Home of the Choirgirl Hotel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:14:58 +0300 (EET DST) From: Kaj-Michael Lang Subject: Re: list moderation On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Lil3rthqks wrote: > We already have the RDT(RN) and the ToriNews lists for both of those. I don't > think P-T needs to change at all; it's a happy medium between the two > extremes. ToriNews is mainly for news and RDT(RN) is digest only (And I don't like that... to much text to read in one go...). And if Precious things is going to change to a moderated list, then it's content will also change to a more Tori only thing. If anyone would like a "non-moderated, talk about anything", Tori list then I might put one up, if there is enough interest. I just hope PT will stay as it is, IMHO. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:31:55 EST From: Adia 509 Subject: (KTS and how I learned to hate AOL) Admittidley I am not an expert at buying things on line, and I am not shure of the reliability of the manufacturer however everyone else is free to ask about other's expieriences that they've had on line, that is neccasary if we are to be informed consumers. I just felt I had to mention what I found on line. However, even though listings can be wrong on boots quite often, it does not an absoulute garantee that the recording is crappy, though I would be suspicious of any boot out there in the first place and if you can't listen to the boot yourself, look for reviews in Ice magazine (back issues can be found in a public library, depending on how well funded it is, but they only skim the latest offerings, thus should not be counted on as a bible). Hot Wacks is also good, they have thier own website (wich I would refer anyone in the first place if it hadn't have been due to the fact my favorite places thing got screwed and now I have to start all over again, wich wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't had about 50 favorite sites), but I am having problems right now with AOL I have no addresses to make available immediatly now. You can also look up reviews on the internet, but since I am having problems with this fu%&#^$&^ computer and internet service again, it will take me some time to look for them so someone else-anybody else, should volunteer info because right now I just don't have any right now. Speaking of AOL, has anybody else had any other problems with other servers? I want to get on Netscape but can you get a seperate e-mail address from the person who's using the same computer? (I don't want to read my mother's e- mail.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:43:41 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Philly Fakeout The *huge announcement* was Not Tori. The most they will say about Tori is she is playing the Electric Factory on the 26th. EFC is offering pre-notification for those on the mailing list. MAX 95.7 offers no apoligies and the morning guy could only say, "get on the mailing list". Sorry Guys, but I'll keep my eyes and ears open. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** I gave my life to become the person I am. Was it worth it? - -richard bach- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:03:55 EST From: FareyFreak Subject: CHICAGO PEOPLE!!!!!**** please read(thanks ) Hey Toriphiles, whats new? Um,,, I had a big favor for anyone planning on going down to the box office this Saturday: I live in Milwaukee and it will be impossible to get tickets, so if anyone COULD or would buy me tickets, I could probaly add in a little "tip" there or whatever you need. Please help me out on this on, I really need tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyone???? spinning.... melody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:18:29 EST From: AKlink8489 Subject: Re: CHICAGO PEOPLE!!!!!**** please read(thanks ) I wish you luck. However, you all must remember that tickets are NON- TRANSFERABLE! This means the person who presents the ID is the person going to the show and presenting the exact SAME ID upon entrance. I'm not sure if they're going to ask a name of your guest for the second ticket or not. If it's open, that would be easier. But I'm assuming that you'll have to meet up with the original buyer and enter the show together. So, if you want a "couple" tickets, you'll have to convince TWO people to get them. Sorry if you can't be there, but that means, as my grandma always said.....more for me! =) (just kidding!) Amber "All the White Horses" http://members.aol.com/AKlink8489/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Ticket Sale Dates - US Tour Info as of April 1 Ticket vouchers on sale this weekend at most venues. Lots of additions. Because of all the questions being asked I have assembled all the currently known information (including *RUMORS*) about the venues for the upcoming Tori club tour. I will continue to post this as new info becomes available. Please contact me at cpoole@indiana.edu if you have additions or corrections. I am also making this information available on the Web. Go to http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html Last updated April 1, 8:00am. NEW: Additions / Changes since March 29th Atlanta - Roxy - Tickets on sale 4/4 at 10am Chicago - Park West - Tickets on sale 4/4 at 9am Detroit - St. Andrews - Tickets on sale 4/4 at 10am or noon Ft. Lauderdale - Chili Pepper - Rumor: tickets on sale 4/4 Los Angeles - El Rey - Tickets on sale 4/4 Tori to be on KROQ Friday New York Irving Plaza - Tickets on sale 4/4 at 10am Philadelphia - Electric Factory - Announcement coming today San Francisco - Fillmore - Rumor: tickets on sale 4/5 or 4/19 Seattle - Moore Theatre - Tickets on sale 4/4 at 10am Toronto - Phoenix - Announcement coming 4/4 Rumor: tickets on sale 4/3 Washington DC - 9:30 Club - Rumor: radio announcement VOUCHERS will be sold for all of these venues. Sales are cash only. Ticket prices vary between $27.50 and $30. Must have a valid photo ID: (Driver's License, Passport, or State Issued ID Card)for the voucher and the same ID to get the tickets. Vouchers and tickets are non-transferable. Maximum of 2 per person. Date Location Venue 4/18 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Chili Pepper Address: 200 West Broward Boulevard Telephone: (954) 525-0094 http://nightguide.com/fll/data/n101466.htm This url is just a listing of the club info. NEW: RUMOR: 103.5 Planet Radio says tickets to go on sale 4/4 at the Sunrise Musical Theater at 10AM. Sunrise Musical Theater Box Office Address: 5555 N.W. 95th Ave. Telephone: (954) 741-7300 (954) 741-8600 http://www.cellardoor.com/sunrise/ NEW: RUMOR: Mix 102.3 FM to announce details of ticket sales today (Apr 1). 4/20 Atlanta, GA 30305 Roxy Address: 3110 Rosewell Rd. Telephone: (404) 233-1062 (404) 233-7699 http://www.consopro.com/roxy_frameset.html Lists Roxy events through April 25 - Tori listed. All shows at the Roxy are all ages. e-mail: info@consopro.com NEW: Tickets on sale 4/4 at 10am at the Roxy Box Office only. Full details at Important Ticket Information: http://www.consopro.com/tori.html 4/22 Washington DC 9:30 CLub Address: 815 V St. N.W. Telephone: (202) 3-930-930 (concert line) http://dev.930.com/shows/930.html (this is the slowest link on the Web!) Lists events through May 9 - No Tori info. All 9:30 Club shows are all ages. NEW: RUMOR: Listen to WHFS on April 10th at 5pm. 4/23 New York, NY Irving Plaza Address: 17 Irving Plaza Telephone: (212) 777-6800 http://www.irvingplaza.com/ NEW: Concert listed on web page. All ages venue - wrist band needed for alcohol. NEW: Tickets on sale Saturday, 4/4 at 10am at The Irving Plaza Box Office 4/25 Boston, MA Avalon Address: 15 Landsdowne St Cambridge MA 02215-2424 Telephone: (617) 262-2424 http://www.tparty.com/tpc/avalonconcerts.html Lists events through May 2 - No Tori info. "No info before next week." RUMOR: Tickets may be sold through Mama Kin (NOT Avalon). Mama Kin Music Hall 36 Landsdown St., Boston Phone: (617) 351-2525 (617) 536-2100 (Contact Person: Chris Porter) Fax: (617) 424-6995 http://www.e-guide.com/venues/v0000407.htm No Tori info. http://www.tourdates.com/venue/400210.html Mama Kin is a three room entertainment complex opened in 1995 by Aerosmith. No Tori info. E-mail: mamakin@mamakin.com Mama Kin is also a Steven Tyler song. The lyrics are located at http://www.topcat11.demon.co.uk/sla/m/m16461.htm 4/26 Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory Address: 421 N. 7th Street Telephone: (215) 569-9400 http://www2.electricfactory.com/venues/factorypage.html Lists events through May 8 - No Tori info. All ages venue (upstairs bar). "Club" shows may be restricted to 21 and over. e-mail: efclist@electricfactory.com This address for mailing list subscription. NEW: WXXM-MAX 95.7 FM, Philadelphia has said it will make an "announcement" today. RUMOR: No "official" announcement will occur until Friday, 4/3. 4/28 Toronto, ONT M4X 1K2 Phoenix Address: 401 Sherbourne St. Telephone: (416) 323-1251 http://www.libertygroup.com/phoenix/concert.htm No concerts listed. http://www.starcitysearch.com/E/V/TORON/0011/38/05/ No concerts listed. NEW: 102.1, The Edge Toronto says ticket information will be given on the air on Saturday April 4 at 10 am. RUMOR: Tickets on sale Friday, 4/3. 4/29 Detroit, MI 48226-2912 St. Andrews Address: 431 E Congress St (St. Andrews Hall) Telephone: (313) 961-8137 http://www.961melt.com Lists events through May 11 - No Tori info. "No information yet available." E-mail: Studio@Radioedge.com NEW: 105.1 The Edge announced that tickets will go on sale 4/4 at Noon at St. Andrews Hall. Planet 96. announced tickets go on sale at 10:00AM. 4/30 Chicago, IL 60614 Park West Address: 322 W Armitage Ave Telephone: (773) 929-1322 (773) 929-5959 http://www.chicago-guide.com/main/venues/parkwest.htm Lists events through March 28 only. http://centerstage.net/chicago/listings/music/venue/ParkWest.html Lists events through May 15. http://www.metromix.com/object/ (cut&paste these together) 9586.html?search_text=Park+West&distype=detail&oid=732 This url is just a listing of the club info. Shows _usually_ restricted to 21 and over. The Album Network will broadcast a program based on this show. For a list of Album Network Broadcast Stations go to http://www.phish.com/stations.html (last updated 3/20/97) or http://www.redrocker.com/radiobroadcastlist.html NEW: Q101 just announced that tori tickets go on sale this saturday [April 4th] at 9:00am. RUMOR: 101.9 is giving away tickets but they say the only thing that has been announced is the ticket sale info. May 1998 5/03 Seattle, WA 98121 Moore Theatre Address: 1932 Second Avenue Telephone: Theatre - (206) 443-1744 Business - (206)467-5510 http://www.themoore.com/ Lists events through Oct 25 - No Tori info. I've been told that this club is generally all ages. e-mail: soldout@themoore.com NEW: 107.7 to announce location of ticket sales Saturday at 10am. NEW: The Theatre says tickets will go on sale on Saturday 4/4 at 10am at the Paramount Theatre Box Office, not at the Moore. The Paramount Theatre Box Office Address: 911 Pine Street http://www.theparamount.com 5/05 San Francisco, CA Fillmore Address: 1805 Geary Blvd. (415) 346-6000 (recorded info) (415) 346-3000 (live person) http://www.thefillmore.com/beta01/index.html Lists events through May 27 - No Tori info. All shows listed are all ages. *NOTE* Concert date changed. May 5 is correct. NEW: RUMOR: Tickets may go on sale on Sunday, 4/5 or Sunday 4/19 at 10am. 5/06 Los Angeles, CA 90036 El Rey Theatre Address: 5515 Wilshire Blvd Telephone: (213) 936-4790 (recorded info) (213) 936-6400 (live person) (213) 954-8881 (special events line) http://hollywired.net/elrey/ This url is just a listing of the club info. http://www.goldenvoice.com/venues.html#elrey Another listing of the club information. http://www.casenet.com/concert/concert.html This is a multi-venue listing. All ages. *NOTE* Concert date changed. May 6 is correct. NEW: Tickets on sale 4/4. Info on ticket purchases will be published in the Thursday LA Weekly and announced on KROQ. RUMOR: Kevin and Bean (on KROQ) announced that Tori will be on the show Friday morning and they will announce ticket info then. Additional information may be available at http://www.toriamos.org and, of course, at Mikewhy's wonderful Dent at http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html ProTix and Ticketmaster have no information on Tori Amos concerts. http://www.ticketmaster.com http://www.protix.com Tori is NOT touring with the Lilith Fair. Info on the Lilith Fair is available at: http://www.lilithfair.com Thanks to Adam and Adam, Addicted Trent, Amber, Angie, Beth, Beth Havers, Bill, Daniela, Deborah, dki, Fiona, Flickergrl, Fragments1, Jack, Jama, Jamie, Jason, Jenn, Jessica, Jodio, Jordy, Justin, K. Fisher, Kim, KKelly, Linda, LostSpireX, Marie, Marina, marisajo, Matt, Michael, Monicat, Natalie, Neile, Nicky, Nicole, Oz, Pavlina, QTsmile =), RDT, Rusty, Saavok, SistrShp23, Steve, stewartj, TADude9999, Talula33, Tom, Trent, Tripp, Zoe and especially Laura (who first posted the tour info). Hope I haven't forgotten anyone. Thanks also to everyone who has contacted me with corrections and additions. In Tori, Charlie - -- +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 08:28:20 +0000 From: **Molly Marguerite** Subject: Re: list moderation I would like that... I have some awesome list server software at work I could almost pull off running the list through our server but I don't know how my boss would feel about that (not that he ever knows whats going on with the server I would just feel guilty). The software is for a Mac though...let me know how I can help...I think this would be a good idea so that the people who run the other lists can have what they want and those of us who like to blab have what we want. **Molly Marguerite** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ They say that goldfish have no memory I guess they're alot like me and that little plastic castle must be a surprise every time - -AD Kaj-Michael Lang wrote: > > > ToriNews is mainly for news and RDT(RN) is digest only (And I don't like > that... to much text to read in one go...). And if Precious things is > going to change to a moderated list, then it's content will also change to > a more Tori only thing. > If anyone would like a "non-moderated, talk about anything", Tori list > then I might put one up, if there is enough interest. I just hope PT will > stay as it is, IMHO. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:30:08 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. Hi Guys.. Get your hands on a copy of the May 1998 Issue of Q Magazine (UK) or you'll never forgive yourself. Tori is in on the front in a skin-tight (and I mean skin-tight) gold, sleeveless top, and very frizzy hair, along with the quote "How can I be a sacred being *AND* a hot pussy?" The 8 page article is wonderful - it talks about the marriage, the miscarriage, shopping, and even the Tellytubbies. The Internet (and us, the online fans) get quite a mention, the story behind "Tori", news on the new album and some meanings, her entire rise to fame (including some names that she might have chosen instead of "Tori"), *A TORI DIARY* for the recording of the album, written by Tori, with illustrations. New photos - some taken by Tori... comments on Kate Bush, Alanis Morissette and Joni Mitchell... She also talks about the miscarriage, her childhood and the state of the modern music scene. You can't afford to miss it. If you're in the UK, *GO* *NOW* stop reading this and buy it. If you're in the US, I'll try and type the thing up in it's entirity before I go into hospital on Friday - so with a little luck, I'll do it tomorrow and post late tomorrow, early Friday. Cheers Mike PS: It says she'll be playing... 200 shows .... mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk - ICQ : 6200976 Webpages - http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mikegray/ Sleeper, Dubstar, Meredith Brooks, Celine Dion, Gloria Estefan, Erasure and more. "You and your letters that go on forever. You and the people who were never friends." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. The Ever-handy Mike Gray said: > Get your hands on a copy of the May 1998 Issue of Q Magazine (UK) or > you'll never forgive yourself. [...] > If you're in the US, I'll try and type the thing up in it's entirity > before I go into hospital on Friday - so with a little luck, I'll do it > tomorrow and post late tomorrow, early Friday. Goodness, don't do that! It's already online! http://members.aol.com/gloriusday/torimay.html > PS: It says she'll be playing... 200 shows .... Well, I just hope the fact that she's got a band with her will take a lot of the weight off of her, and she won't end up nearly so exhausted as the last tour(s)! Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:11:13 EST From: WeirdyBoi Subject: hahaha "Freakily, there are lists of every foodstuff she has ever mentioned in her songs and interviews." (on the internet) - -Q Magazine, May 1998 ~~~~ I thought this quote was particularly funny...for some reason.... j'ason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:11:39 EST From: AKlink8489 Subject: Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. There's a link to someone's site that has this article in its entirety. http://tori.by.net Amber "All the White Horses" http://members.aol.com/AKlink8489/index.htm This article will be on my site soon! If anyone has pics from this article, please email them to me!!! =) Of course, you'll get all the credit on my page. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:06:07 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Re: SPARK #1 requested song in san fran >just wanted to let everyone know, "spark" is the #1 most requested song of the >week on Live 105.1 FM radio here in san francisco. thats pretty good i think, >i don't remember any of tori's other songs getting this much attention... =0) ROCK ON TORI FANS :) *BG* - -Jenn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:04:35 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: That damn article... ;-) Well, I hope I helped someone without web access out... ;-) Cheers Mike (Who, unlike the Murphy's, is not bitter..) mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk - ICQ : 6200976 Webpages - http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mikegray/ Sleeper, Dubstar, Meredith Brooks, Celine Dion, Gloria Estefan, Erasure and more. "You and your letters that go on forever. You and the people who were never friends." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:03:20 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. >The Ever-handy Mike Gray said: > >> Get your hands on a copy of the May 1998 Issue of Q Magazine (UK) or >> you'll never forgive yourself. > >[...] > >> If you're in the US, I'll try and type the thing up in it's entirity >> before I go into hospital on Friday - so with a little luck, I'll do it >> tomorrow and post late tomorrow, early Friday. > >Goodness, don't do that! It's already online! > >http://members.aol.com/gloriusday/torimay.html What's the word I'm looking for again? Damn! Cheers Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:04:28 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: Re: Q Magazine. May 1998. Don't think. Just buy it. >Hi Guys.. > >Get your hands on a copy of the May 1998 Issue of Q Magazine (UK) or you'll >never forgive yourself. Tori is in on the front in a skin-tight (and I mean >skin-tight) gold, sleeveless top, and very frizzy hair, along with the quote >"How can I be a sacred being *AND* a hot pussy?" > >The 8 page article is wonderful - it talks about the marriage, the >miscarriage, shopping, and even the Tellytubbies. The Internet (and us, the >online fans) get quite a mention, the story behind "Tori", news on the new >album and some meanings, her entire rise to fame (including some names that >she might have chosen instead of "Tori"), *A TORI DIARY* for the recording >of the album, written by Tori, with illustrations. New photos - some taken >by Tori... comments on Kate Bush, Alanis Morissette and Joni Mitchell... >She also talks about the miscarriage, her childhood and the state of the >modern music scene. > >You can't afford to miss it. If you're in the UK, *GO* *NOW* stop reading >this and buy it. If you're in the US, I'll try and type the thing up in it's >entirity before I go into hospital on Friday - so with a little luck, I'll >do it tomorrow and post late tomorrow, early Friday. > >Cheers > >Mike > > >PS: It says she'll be playing... 200 shows .... > >mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk - ICQ : 6200976 >Webpages - http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mikegray/ >Sleeper, Dubstar, Meredith Brooks, Celine Dion, Gloria Estefan, Erasure and >more. >"You and your letters that go on forever. You and the people who were never >friends." so theres no way to get this magazine in the us??? :( - -Jenn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:01:33 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: The Q article. All of it.... (and boy do *my* fingers hurt...) PS: MikeWhy - take this! Take it now! Put it on your site! ;-) Oh, and I typed this by hand... - -- Ready, Steady... Kook! It's been a harrowing, then hallowed, typically switchback 18 months for Tori Amos. Miscarriage, marriage, a perspective-alterting retreat into deepest Cornwall, and finally an album of towering and volatile new music. Tom Doyle gingerly places his head in her old joanna and waits for the fairies to turn up. Just after four o'clock on a Wednesday afternoon and the concourse of Paddington station is already infested. Ranks of commuters stare up at the flickering announcement boards and then scurry away the very second their platform number is called. None of them casts a second glance at the slight, flame-haired woman in the brown jacked and faded blue jeans, gripping the handrail of a trolley, her neck craned, eyes scanning for any information on the 16.35 to Exeter. In this setting, at least, there is no glittering star-like aura or huddle of attention-attracting minders surrounding Tori Amos. Nothing to suggest, to the casual passer-by, that she's not just some mature student or year-out world traveller waiting to catch her connection. It's an enviable and unusual anonymity for an artist who - at last tally - has sold upwards of eight million albums globally. Although in England (her on-off home for the past six years) she can drift unnoticed through a crowd, in her native America, where her fan base borders on the near-religiously fanatical, she is far more likely to be accosted in public places. In the US, Web pages document every aspect of her life history, discuss her tangential, often brutally candid lyrics. Freakily, there are lists of every foodstuff she has ever mentioned in her songs and interviews. "I don't have a computer," insists Amos, keen not to add cyber-stalkers to her menagerie of over-obsessive fans. Coaxed futher, whiile she and Q each take a handle of her hefty bag and struggle down the platform, she adds. "Well, I'm aware of them. This might sound strange but I really live independently of all that." Although she is often forced to gravitate towards the accepted music business capitals of London, New York, and Los Angeles, Amos is a rustic girl at hearet. Today our destination is the 300-year-old North Cornish cottage that houses Martian Engineering, the studio purpose-built in a renovated barn where work has just been completed on her fourth album, From The Choirgirl Hotel ("My fifth album actually," she points out, mindful to include the debut effort of her failed Los Angeleno rock band, Y Kant Tori Read). Reluctant to parade the trophies of a successful career, she is coy when questioned about how many propertes she owns - dot-joining detective work revealing two, a Georgian house in County Cork and another retreat in a "geriatric community" north of Miami. The farmhouse studio in Cornwall is owned by Mark Hawley, Lincolnshire born recording veteran of the last two Amos albums, and since February 22nd of the year, Tori's husband. Strangely, she refers to him, along with partner Marcel Van Limbeek as "the engineers". "I talk about so much in my songs that I really need something for myself," she offers, sliding into a seat. Amos is full of such dichotomies - appearing guarded at times when the topic seems slight and inoffensive; yet, as the questions probe more conventionally sensitive zones, she will prove unsettlingly frank. The kooky affectations often attributed to her appear, close-up, to be natural eccentricities, and although she often lapses into therapy-speak, even her most earnest divulgences can be punctuated with little, gaspy laughs. Still, you have to wonder about the two torn-off Teletubby heads peeking out of her handbag. Amos is razor-sharp, fond of unflinching eye contact, not shy of peppering her sentences with what video censors refer to as "sexual swear words". She insists for paying for Q's gin and tonic when the buffet trolly rolls our way. Any polite protestation on Q's part is met with a comedy rolling of the pupils, the millionairess flatly stating, "Look, you're a cheap date, OK?" On March 31, 1977 in an edition of The Montgomery Journal, the first published photograph of the 13-year-old Myra Ellen Amos in mid-song, seated at a small piano, appeared above the headline "Top Teens In Talent Test". She scooped first prize in this local competitioin, winning $100 ("I played by own song that night, something called More Than Just A Friend"). But by the dawning of her teenage years, Amos was already a prodigious talent, having first clambered up onto a piano stool at the milk-toothed age of 30 months. By five years, she'd won a scholarship to the Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore, Maryland, their youngest ever admittance. By 11, having forcefully revealed her disdain for classical studies and her passion for Led Zeppelin, she had been expelled. This, she admits, was a crushing blow to her Methodist minister father, who had firm designs on his daughter becoming a concert pianist. "You see, I'm not music theory smart," she reasons. "To me, it's an internal, instinctive thinig. It's like, I don't care if this is making mathematical sense, I am not creaming. If I'm really honest, looking back, I wanted my father to be proud of me. But I couldn't do it in that way, because it has to be in your soul to be a great concert pianist." Even is she was often at odds with her reverend father, it was Amos's Protestand grandmother who became the target of her youthful hatred. "I'm sure I would've been the youngest child in jail for murdering my grandmother," she says, her temper flaring even now. "At five, I just wanted to take the butter knife and slit the bitch's throat. At the same time, if I ran into her in between the worlds, y'know, I'd have a margarita with her. I'd fucking make her inject it before I talked to her. The problem with my grandmother - and a lot of Christian women form the Calvanist side - was that there was so much shame for a woman, with all of the self-righteousness and the finger-pointing. It was very hard for them to claim the dark side of their femininity. They couldn't say Jesus, how can Ibe a sacred pure being *and* a hot pussy?" As such, in puberty, Amos claims to have harboured sexual fantasies about both Robert Plant and Jesus Christ (iconic, long hair etc). When eventually she recorded a duet with the Led Zeppelin singer, "Percy" fancied his chances ("He asked me to marry him, and I said, *you* are late). Later, at 13, Amos's desire to shag Plant was supplanted by the desire to *be* Jimmy Page. Chaperoned by her father, she began fulfilling hotel bar engagements in and around Washington, performing easy listening standards. At home, she composed and recorded her own songs. Reverend Edison Amos then dutifully mailed them to record companies and dealt with the stream of rejection letters. For nigh on a decade, it seemed as if the minister's daughter was destined to burn eternally in the fires of piano lounge hell. "It got to the stage," she sighs, "where I was sick of playing Feelings seven times a night at The Marriot. It thought I was going to kill the next person that asked me to play "Memory" from Cats." In the midst of all this, at 17, she changed her given name to Tori, a matter she rarely discusses. "I just hated my name," she bluntly reveals. "If a guy even started to look at me and they heard my name was Myra Ellen, it just created .. a limp dick immediately. I couldn't bear it. You wouldn't have believed some of the names I was going through at the time." Come on then. Give us three. "I'll give you one. Sammy Jay . Obviously that was my Dallas period. That was my late-70's prime-time soap opera name. Or it could've been my porn name. I'll remember that when I date Tommy Lee." How did you stumble on Tori? "A friend of mine at the time was dating some guy and she brought him to one of the clubs I was playing and he just looked at me and said, You're a Tori. I just went, you know what? I am. So from then on, I made out my cheques aka Tori. Then of course I found that it meant 'little chicken' in Japanese." By the start of the '80s despite Tori Amos's dogged efforts, the consensus among disinterested A&R personnel was that the appeal of the girl-and-a-piano concept had died in the '70s along with the dwindling commercial fortunes of Carole King. Narada Michael Walden - celebrated funkateer and future producer of Whitney Houston - disagreed, having spotted Amos playing in a hotel lobby and likened her to a young Joni Mitchell. Following a year in which the singer-songwriter posted off a succession of cassettes to Walden, at 19, Amos flew to San Francisco to work with him on her first serious demos. The resulting traks featured her voice tweaked up a vari-speeded notch to make her sound more girly - which she hated - and no record contract was forthcoming. In desperation, in 1984, at the age of 21, Tori Amos moved to Los Angeles, heralding the beginning of her ill-fated rock-chick makeover. In teased hair and thigh-length boots, she became a Sunset Strip metal fashion atrocity, although this transformation was to fleetingly pay dividends with the singing of her band Y Kant Tori Read to Atlantic Records. Following a fraught recording period in which the outfit disintegrated and the record company seized the creative reigns, the band's eponymous album was released to mass critical derision and negligible sales. Amos woke up to the reality that she had become "a musical joke". In licking her wounds, she turned once again to the piano and began to pen the confessional songs that would make up her 1992 solo debut album, Little Earthquakes. Although, lyrically, these were dominated by Amos's incisive, angular ruminiations on sex and religion, the msot shockinig inclusion was the a capella Me And A Gun. Its true story begins at a Y Kant Tori Read show in Los Angeles, after which she offered an audience member a lift. Some miles down the road she was raped by her passenger in the back of the car with a pistol held to her head. In the past, Amos has been understandably le ss than keen to relive this horrific experience (once chillingly pointing out that "he's still out there"), although she is now open to talking about the lasting aftershocks. "I have horrible nightmares," she admits. "My nightmares are just like a horror movie. Ii mean, Mr Blond lives in my head. It's that repressed anger, it doesn't just go away, it breathes in another form in your psyche. You begin to know who your demons are and I think that's where you grow as a being." Amos has also hinted that part of her psychological unburdening involved Carlos Castaneda-like experiences with Native Americans both in Los Angeles and New Mexico, where she supped the ritualistic brew. "Yeah, there was a period in the late '80s where I was working with different shamen," she says. "Myself and a friend Beene would take Iowaska - but it wouldn't be in the liquid form, it would be a freeze-dried pill - and mushrooms. Some of those trips were eighteen hours long and I'll never forget, once I ended up sitting by the bush trying to ask the flowers why they didn't like me . It's like, Why can't I be your friend? I was crawling out of my skin at that time. In my twenties I was really...I was just losing my mind." If the songs on Little Earthquakes served to heal the emotional scars of their creator, then the reviews for the album threw up one recurrent comparison : Kate Bush. The debt's there in the songs' skewed perspectives on the world outside, and the singer's contortion of certain voels. "I'll never forget the first time I hear about Kate," Amos recalls. "I was playing in a club, I was 18 or 19 and somebody came up to me, pointed their finger and said, Kate Bush. went, Who's that? I wasn't really familiar because Kate didn't really happen in the States until Hounds Of Love. I was shocked because the last thing you want to hear is that you sound like someone else. Then people kept mentioning her name when they heard me sing, to the point where I finally went and got her reords. When I first heard her, I went Wow, she does things that I've never heard anybody do, much less me. But I could hear a resonance in the voice where you'd think we were distantly related or something." So you were never influenced by her directly? "Well... I must tell you that when I heard her I was blown away by her. There's no question." Did you sing along to the records. "Absolutely. But I knew that I had to be careful, so I didn't voraciously learn her catalogue. I left the records with my boyfriend at the time, because I didn't want to copy her." The kook rock torch passed from Bush to Amos, but it didn't stop there. Little Earthquakes had a massive influence on the formative Alanis Morissette (quoted in Q as saying that the first time she head the album, she played it, "in its entirety, lying on my living room floor... I just bawled my eyes out"). For her part, however, Amos is careful when offering her opinions on the glove-seducing phenomenon that is Jagged Little Pill. "I really like her. She's such a good person. I like her as a person a lot." So you don't like the record. "I like the songwriting and I think I like her singing but I've got to tell you, I have a hard time listening to that record, just on a sonic level. It would make a dog's ears hurt. I hate records that have so much high end and no bottom." This is mild criticism, however. In the version of Professional Widow that appeared on Amos's third solo album - as opposed to Armand Van Helden's remix - Amos appeared to be attacking another of her key contemporaries, Courtney Love. Since then, the singer had fiercely denied that Love was her target in the song. Lines like "Don't blow your brains yet / We gotta be big boy" are fairly uneqivocal, though. "Let's put it this way," she hedges daintily, "Courtney and I have never spoken. We've never spoken about it and we've never spoken and I think it's best kept that way. We have mutual friends. I don't want to put them in a bad position." - ----- I'd like to apologise for the typos, but this is arm-aching stuff. I'm just having a coffee break now... back in a minute .... ------ Mike The songs on each of Amos's albums have always borne a central thematic link - Little Earthquakes (catharsis), Under The Pink (the female condition), Boys For Pele (the emotional fallout of her split with long-term boyfriend/co-producer Eric Rosse) - and in that sense, From The Choirgirl Hotel is no different. Amos explains that many of her new compositions are underpinned by a more recent wretch, a tragedy in the wake of the Boys For Pele tour as she recuperated in Florida. "I was pregant," she softly states. "I got pregnant on tour, it was a surprise, but I was deeply thrilled about it. I was almost three months pregnant... Christmas '96... and I miscarried. And it was very difficult. The sorrow was just really deep. I know some people who've gone through it and they move on quickly. Everybody responds differently to a loss. I got quite attached to the spirit of this being." Do you know if it was a boy or a girl? "It was a girl. That's why on Playboy Mommy, I sing, 'Don't judge me so harsh, little girl.' I had so many responses to it before I could get to the place where I am now. You see people hit their kids in stores and you just go, What force of judgement gives these people these little lives? I have a lot of questions right now. I know it's a free-will planet. Thiings happen. But you nkow that saying, Bad things don't happen to good people? That's a painful lie, and it hits you on such a core-level. I know now that I have an appreciation for the miracle of life that I didn't have, but I don't belive in the saying that it all happens for the best... it's just not appropriate." Did It overshadow everything? "Yeah, it did. It took over, I think, the way I.... y'know, once you've felt life in your body, you can't go back to having been a woman that's never carried life. The other thing is feeling something dying inside you and you're still alive. Obviously when it was happening, it was already over but in your mind, you don't know that yet. You're doing anything, thinking, Oh God maybe if I put a cork up myself, maybe it'll keep this little life in. That's why in Spark, I say, "She's convinced she could hold back a glacier / But she couldn't keep a baby alive." You just start going insane. There's nothing you can do, so you surrender and then... start again." There have since been happier times, enjoyed in calmer waters. Let's talk about your wedding. " Oh let's *not* talk about that." A photograph appeared in Hello! magazine. " Oh can you *believe* that? I thought I'd really pulled it off and there it was.. Hello! magazine.. right there." It seemed to have a medieval, Arthurian theme. "It wasn't medieval in as much as... it's not like I ransacked the set of Camelot doing dinner theatre up in Sheffield. We got married in West Wycombe and I just wanted something that... we wanted it really private. But there is a side to me that believe in magic." It was the definitive fairy-tail wedding, then? "Yeah, I really believe in that force, I believe in the elementals. I believe that when you call on certain forces and if you respect them, sometimes, they are there for you. I figured if I had it where there were trees and water then maybe the fairies would show up." Bright and early the following morning, the air in the kitchen of the Amos cottage is suffused with the twin aromas of coffee and toast, as the housemistress emerges comfortably attired in T-shirt and combat trousers, towelling her damp hair. Grabbing the studio keys to conduct a guided tour, she leads Q across the courtyard. Outside hangs the overpoweing smell of dung. "Yep", Amos smiles, nostrils aloft for a cartoon sniff, "it gets to you sometimes." Inside the studio she introudces on of the two Bosendorfer pianos she owns as "my baby". Always referring to her instruments in the female third person, a year ago, Amos had told Q that this piano "had no character, she was boring". Now she admits, "She's making me pay for that statement daily," before beckoning Q under the piano's lid saying, "Here, put your head in," for the full cochlea-rattling experience. Following a torent of expert arpeggios played by a swaying, trance-like Amos, she holds the sustain of the last note, and then emits a breathy, "Isn't she pretty?" In the control room, the window of which frames a suitably calming natural spring, she flops into a tall-backed, black leather studio chair. The talk turns to the freedom of lyrical speech, something that - as a provocative writer - is a key issue for Amos. Specifically she experienced a strong reaction to The Prodigy's shoulder-shrugging defence of "Smack My Bitch Up." "I don't find anything cutting-edge about Smack My Bitch Up," she begins, her voice raised in pasion. "The thing that bugged me is that if you're going to say something, you stand by what you say. Or you just be honest and say, Look, I hit my girlfriend and that's my statement, love me or hate me. I think it's honest that all sorts of feelings come up , but you have to stand by your work as a writer. You can't say stuff that's gonna stir people up and then not be willing to stand by it. "But then it's not fair for me to say that it's wrong for them to have that thought either. look at the thoughts I've had - killing people, mangling people, hurting myself, havinig sex with God. But these were my thoughts. Whether I acted on them or not, that's between me and my maker." But then you must be aware of the shock value of some of your songs. Do you ever think, This'll get them gonig? "Well what I know is how I think and how I feel and what I believe are not things that people really want to talk about. So yes, I know that in my unconscious there are things that are kinda pukey. Even if I'm saying it to get you going, it's like, Hey, this thought came from me, so on some level, I'm OK with talking about it. If I talk about anything in my songs, and I tell you I never have these feelings, that I'm just lying about it, then I'm lying through my teeth. That's like, y'know showing up at a porno movie to eat the popcorn." In mid-April the wheels of the Tori Amos touring freight-train grind into gear for the first of 200 dates, offloading emotional baggage at every destination. A self-confessed "road dog", in 1996 Amos was named as the most tour-hardy act ni the US (followed by Garth Brooks and Kiss) notching up 600 shows since Little Earthquakes. For everyone one of her devotees, each night will mark an epiphany of sorts. But she's smart enough to realise that the pungent brew of characteristics that make up her music divides public opinion. Even after all this time, there are still those who can't stand Tori Amos. "You know what?" she feistily announces. "I could have a drink with those people." - --- THE END! I'll type the box-outs later. If you want to use this on a web-page, for pity's sake credit me and Q magazine! Cheers Mike mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk - ICQ : 6200976 Webpages - http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mikegray/ Sleeper, Dubstar, Meredith Brooks, Celine Dion, Gloria Estefan, Erasure and more. "You and your letters that go on forever. You and the people who were never friends." ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #118 *************************************