From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #93 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, March 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 093 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori & Neil Gaiman ["Miss Mindi" ] here here here [rain ] Mp3 - I need the players. [earthsis@spindle.net (earthsis@spindle.net)] Re: Mp3 - I need the players. [A Faerie ] Re: Her Kind/Anne Sexton ["gaga_iguana" ] Re: availability of Tori stuff in London [topher@france-techno.fr (Topher] Re: here here here ["K. Fischer" ] re: here here here ["Paul Fleming" ] tori covers... [Catherine Adria Hardison ] Re: availability of Tori stuff in London ["Geoff Moore" ] How did that Oprah thing go? [lilchibi@flash.net] Planet Tori ? ["Kaj-Michael Lang" ] spark--atlantic records [johanna ] re: here here here [Beth Coulter ] Re: Planet Tori ? [Auburn2244 ] curious about a song [A Faerie ] MORE News! IMPORTANT **read** ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] Re: MORE News! IMPORTANT **read** [Richard Handal ] Re: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! [Beth Coulter ] Spark ["Nick Schutz" ] Re: News! [violet@torithoughts.org] Re: spark--atlantic records [violet@torithoughts.org] Re: The Fat of the Land--Prodigy ["Tamika Pinkney" ] Atlantic Records & other stuff [Gwenevere@alloymail.com] Re: Spark [wojs of mass destruction ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:31:41 AKST From: "Miss Mindi" Subject: Tori & Neil Gaiman I was just curious as to the whole comic book thing, I purchased Neil's Stardust #1 of 4 today thinking that was the series that featured Tori. I haven't read all of it, but I don't see a connection. Is she in the Sandman comics? I know someone mentioned a character "Angela" based on Tori in Spawn... Help here please? I'd really appreciate hearing from someone "in the know". ~Mindi also, anyone interested in the Stardust serious out there (I know it's been mentioned) and can't find it anywhere, I would be able to help you out, the comic shop here in town has many issues :-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:30:41 -0800 From: rain Subject: here here here i dont know how many of you are familiar with the preformance tori amos gave on october 23,1996 but during the show she left the stage crying and when she came back she mentioned something about being sick. until now no one (that i am aware of) really knew what was going on but ill bet this was about the time she had her misscariage. poor tori ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:56:34 -0600 From: earthsis@spindle.net (earthsis@spindle.net) Subject: Mp3 - I need the players. Hi everyone, I have seen mention of these darn Mp3's everywhere, and I would love to have access to them. However, I don't have the plug-ins, software, etc. Could a kind EWF help me with finding what I need to play these? Is there a free download anywhere? Stuff like that.. Thank you very, very much and have a glorious day!! Angela :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:19:21 -0600 From: A Faerie Subject: Re: Mp3 - I need the players. earthsis@spindle.net wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I have seen mention of these darn Mp3's everywhere, and I would love to > have access to them. However, I don't have the plug-ins, software, etc. > Could a kind EWF help me with finding what I need to play these? Is > there a free download anywhere? Stuff like that.. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7409/mp3.html there ya go! Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....In my heart stirs a quiet passion http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (yes that be a homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:27:18 +0800 From: "gaga_iguana" Subject: Re: Her Kind/Anne Sexton Hi everybody, I'm Serene from Singapore and have been on this list for quite some time already. I saw Cindergirl's email about Anne Sexton's Her Kind. Sorry, I didn't have the URL, but I would like you guys to know about this: well here in Singpore, there's a band called Self-Portriat, and their music are very much influenced by Tori and Ani Difranco (so I think). On the last track of the demo, they did their version of Her Kind... and I must say it sounds great and I often found myself humming to its tune. Just my 2¢ §é®êñë Ýâþ¿ ***************************************************************** I think it's sad that you've built a brave construction on weak STILTS. --- Self-Protrait ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:28:27 +0100 From: topher@france-techno.fr (Topher) Subject: Re: availability of Tori stuff in London Hi, The best place for rare Tori stuff is definitely a place called "Music & Video Exchange". They have several branches but the one with all the rare stuff is in Notting Hill Gate. You go up the stairs and they keep all their rarities behind windows. There are a lot of Blur, Beatles and Oasis items (of course) but I've also seen Bleach-era Nirvana 7" singles, and tons of rare 12" vinyls for every band. It is pretty expensive though. I got my Silent All These Years (Limited Edition) digipak for 20 pounds and I saw Crucify (Limited edition with the postcards) for 35 pounds. UTP CD-Singles usually sell for around 6 to 9 pounds. I also saw the Japanese t:me recording Compilation CD with mad@chris "this" (devious mix) which includes the MAAG sample for 60 pounds !!... but I found it *just around the corner* at another Music & Video Exchange store for 12 pounds !!... (it is crap anyway. Better get the 12" with more mixes if you're a hardcore fan. It will probably cost much less.) :-) Therefore, I suggest you go visit the other MVE branches before you go to this one. They might have some for cheaper. Lucky you, I happen to have all the different branches in my address book (by order of interest): :-) 38, 56 & 64 Notting Hill Gate, LONDON W11 229 Camden High Street, LONDON NW1 480 Fulham Road, Fulham Broadway, LONDON SW6 95 Berwick Street, LONDON W1 90 Goldhawk Road, Shepherd's Bush, LONDON W12 403 Mare Street, Hackney, LONDON E8 ENGLAND Open 7 days * 10 a.m. - 8 p.m. ... and no... I don't work for them. :-) I have also seen the YKTR bootleg at this store called "Select-A-Disc" on Berwick St. for 16 pounds (new). Big stores like Virgin, Tower & HMV won't probably stock anything old. If you want to buy other CD's, HMV is the cheapest of the three but I recommend another small shop on Berwick St. (again) called Mr. CD where all the CD's cost 10 pounds - some cost 11 but never more. Some cost less than ten. They're all brand new except that they're unwrapped. Tori bootlegs can also be found at Camden Market on week-ends. There are two stalls in the area on the left just after the bridge where you can find them for 15 pounds. That's expensive, but you get 2 for 25 and 3 for 35. Worthwhile, eh ?... Would anybody know other places of interest ?... Topher. (who would obviously like to live in London on a full-time basis) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Re: here here here In the Rumba article Tori said she found out she was pregnant at the end of the tour, so she didn't have her miscarriage until after the tour was over. Maybe the fact that she was caught off guard by the pregnancy was what upset her at that concert on Oct. 23. This is just a guess because I really have no way of knowing what was really going on with her that day. Karin On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, rain wrote: > > i dont know how many of you are familiar with the preformance tori amos > gave on october 23,1996 but during the show she left the stage crying > and when she came back she mentioned something about being sick. until > now no one (that i am aware of) really knew what was going on but ill > bet this was about the time she had her misscariage. poor tori > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > -- > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from > my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across > the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i > can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high > priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock > Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me > much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more > ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the > inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then > things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big > moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:36:14 GMT From: "Paul Fleming" Subject: re: here here here can we please stop discussing Tori's miscarriage, I am sure you will agree that it saddens us all. And within the context of any lyrics on FTCS, it will be certainly open for discussion. Buy a thread on when it happened is a little to invasive for my taste, no offence intended, Paul. btw, did anyone mention that toris marriage pictures where in Hello, issue 499. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine Adria Hardison Subject: tori covers... are there any bands that have done covers of tori songs??? i know jawbox covered 'cornflake girl', but are there any others??? also, on a more frivolous note, does anybody know what tori uses to dye her hair??? i absolutely love the colour she uses... - ------------------- kate hardison hardic2@rpi.edu 'you're taking steps that make you feel dizzy then you learn to like the way it feels you hurt yourself you hurt your lover then you discover what you thought was freedom is just greed' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:09:26 -0500 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: Re: availability of Tori stuff in London Do these people ship to the U.S.? If so, I'd like to give them a call...... what's the exchange rate again? 1.5 U.S. = 1 Pound? Thanks, Geoff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And I'm askin' the good Lord, "Why?" and sigh.... He told me we lived to die." -Bone Thugs~N~Harmony - -----Original Message----- From: Topher To: precious-things@smoe.org Cc: Cindy26471 Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:37 AM Subject: Re: availability of Tori stuff in London > >Hi, >The best place for rare Tori stuff is definitely a place called "Music & >Video Exchange". They have several branches but the one with all the rare >stuff is in Notting Hill Gate. >You go up the stairs and they keep all their rarities behind windows. There >are a lot of Blur, Beatles and Oasis items (of course) but I've also seen >Bleach-era Nirvana 7" singles, and tons of rare 12" vinyls for every band. >It is pretty expensive though. I got my Silent All These Years (Limited >Edition) digipak for 20 pounds and I saw Crucify (Limited edition with the >postcards) for 35 pounds. UTP CD-Singles usually sell for around 6 to 9 >pounds. I also saw the Japanese t:me recording Compilation CD with >mad@chris "this" (devious mix) which includes the MAAG sample for 60 pounds >!!... but I found it *just around the corner* at another Music & Video >Exchange store for 12 pounds !!... (it is crap anyway. Better get the 12" >with more mixes if you're a hardcore fan. It will probably cost much less.) >:-) >Therefore, I suggest you go visit the other MVE branches before you go to >this one. They might have some for cheaper. > >Lucky you, I happen to have all the different branches in my address book >(by order of interest): :-) > >38, 56 & 64 Notting Hill Gate, LONDON W11 >229 Camden High Street, LONDON NW1 >480 Fulham Road, Fulham Broadway, LONDON SW6 >95 Berwick Street, LONDON W1 >90 Goldhawk Road, Shepherd's Bush, LONDON W12 >403 Mare Street, Hackney, LONDON E8 >ENGLAND > >Open 7 days * 10 a.m. - 8 p.m. > >... and no... I don't work for them. :-) > >I have also seen the YKTR bootleg at this store called "Select-A-Disc" on >Berwick St. for 16 pounds (new). Big stores like Virgin, Tower & HMV won't >probably stock anything old. If you want to buy other CD's, HMV is the >cheapest of the three but I recommend another small shop on Berwick St. >(again) called Mr. CD where all the CD's cost 10 pounds - some cost 11 but >never more. Some cost less than ten. They're all brand new except that >they're unwrapped. >Tori bootlegs can also be found at Camden Market on week-ends. There are >two stalls in the area on the left just after the bridge where you can find >them for 15 pounds. That's expensive, but you get 2 for 25 and 3 for 35. >Worthwhile, eh ?... > >Would anybody know other places of interest ?... > >Topher. >(who would obviously like to live in London on a full-time basis) :-) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:22:17 -0500 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Fw: here here here You could be correct. I remember somone saying Tori had commented that someone special had passed away and she was very upset. But I don't know..... Tripp > > i dont know how many of you are familiar with the preformance tori amos > gave on october 23,1996 but during the show she left the stage crying > and when she came back she mentioned something about being sick. until > now no one (that i am aware of) really knew what was going on but ill > bet this was about the time she had her misscariage. poor tori > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > -- > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from > my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across > the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i > can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high > priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock > Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me > much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more > ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the > inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then > things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big > moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:38:38 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: How did that Oprah thing go? Just a question. What happened to the OPRAH NOW! and Storytellers campaigns? Are those over? Did oprah get the letters we emailed? Jenny, did people reply? Just curious cuz I really am looking forward to see her on one of these shows, if not both. Also, maybe we could get Tori's first video launched on MTV's Women of Music (?? I think its called) or something? Ok, just a thought Bye, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:47:06 +0200 From: "Kaj-Michael Lang" Subject: Planet Tori ? What has happend to Planet Tori ? I can't find it anymore and the e-mail address at geocities doesen't work. /--------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Kaj-Michael Lang | WWW: http://www.tal.org | | Kaskentie 5 C9 | E-Mail: milang@tal.org | | 20720 Turku | milang@onion.sip.fi | | FINLAND | milang@infa.abo.fi | |-------------------------| klang@abo.fi | | GSM: +358-(0)40-5271058 | FTP: ftp://ftp.tal.org | |--------------------------------------------------------------------| | CS@ÅA DBMS&CGI&PHP&HelpDesk&PTRoot&Coding@SIP Ltd | | Software is like sex; it's better when it's free. - Linus Torvalds | \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:52:17 -0500 From: johanna Subject: spark--atlantic records from mtv online... http://www.mtv.com/mtv/news/headlines/980318/story8.html 3.18.98 15:30 EDT Atlantic Records Fights To Keep New Tori Amos Song Under Wraps Atlantic Records is reportedly in the process of filing cease and desist orders against web masters who have illegally posted soundclips of a new Tori Amos song on the web. The song, "Spark," comes from Amos' new record, "From The Choirgirl Hotel," which isn't due out until May 5. But two radio stations apparently played the song last Friday, dubs of which were posted soon after on several Amos fan sites. The incident is reminiscent of what has happened in recent months with new songs from Pearl Jam and Oasis, as soundclips from both Pearl Jam's "No Code" and Oasis' "Be Here Now" appeared on the web prior to both albums' actual release. Further complicating the situation is news that an Amos song will be part of a new deal signed between Atlantic, Tower Records and AT&T. According to Billboard Online, an unnamed new track from Amos' new album will be available to download April 7 from AT&T's a2b music Web site. But computer users will have to purchase full-length albums from Tower's stores or their website in order to receive the password needed to access the song. Representatives for Tori Amos were unavailable for comment. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:01:53 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: re: here here here At 05:36 PM 3/18/98 GMT, you wrote: >can we please stop discussing Tori's miscarriage, > >I am sure you will agree that it saddens us all. And within the >context of any lyrics on FTCS, it will be certainly open for >discussion. > >Buy a thread on when it happened is a little to invasive for my >taste, > >no offence intended, > >Paul. I want to agree 100% with Paul. All this when and where talk is becoming morbid and personally I'm starting to dump any mail regarding it because it is making me sick, literally. Isn't enough to know the tragady happened? Why must anyone know where or when or if the Cornflake Girl Dance was a secret message? Please people, I hate deleting unread messages. Enough is enough in my opinion. Thanks Paul for stating what I've been thinking for 4 straight days. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** I gave my life to become the person I am. Was it worth it? - -richard bach- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:10:01 EST From: Auburn2244 Subject: Re: Planet Tori ? In a message dated 98-03-18 15:51:03 EST, you write: << What has happend to Planet Tori ? I can't find it anymore and the e-mail address at geocities doesen't work. >> Planet Tori will not be back until March 24th and they promise to explain everything then!!!! Sarah :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:13:24 -0600 From: A Faerie Subject: curious about a song I figured this was the best place to ask this so here goes... Sometimes Tori sings an intro to Sugar, i've seen is listed as Blue/Sugar, but you all know how unreliable bootlegs on cd can be! So here are the words that i can make out and perhaps one of you will know what song this is, if it is infact Blue or not, and who its by if it is a cover..... "some boy you are, to take me by the hand...in an elevator, in a dream, maybe (something i can't figure out) is always blue. and you said, girl if you think.you can change that violator, you'll finally be that woman, yes finally be that woman thats been frozen in the pretty silver gown, and i've never seen blue, like the blues he (drives?) and around, through me, again" something like that! anyone know? thanks! Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....In my heart stirs a quiet passion http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (yes that be a homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:00:44 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: MORE News! IMPORTANT **read** Ok, friends, here it goes, this one is taken from the MTV website. - ----------------------- 3.18.98 15:30 EDT Atlantic Records Fights To Keep New Tori Amos Song Under Wraps Atlantic Records is reportedly in the process of filing cease and desist orders against web masters who have illegally posted soundclips of a new Tori Amos song on the web. The song, "Spark," comes from Amos' new record, "from the choirgirl hotel," which isn't due out until May 5. But two radio stations apparently played the song last Friday, dubs of which were posted soon after on several Amos fan sites. The incident is reminiscent of what has happened in recent months with new songs from Pearl Jam and Oasis, as soundclips from both Pearl Jam's "No Code" and Oasis' "Be Here Now" appeared on the web prior to both albums actual release. Further complicating the situation is news that an Amos song will be part of a new deal signed between Atlantic, Tower Records and AT&T. According to Billboard Online, an unnamed new track from Amos' new album will be available to download April 7 from AT&T's a2b music website. But computer users will have to purchase full-length albums from Tower's stores or its website in order to receive the password needed to access the song. Representatives for Tori Amos were unavailable for comment. - -------------------------------- http://mtv.com/mtv/news/headlines/980318/story8.html - -------------------------------- AY! How did they find out????????????????? Giovanni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:12:12 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: MTV picture Hey... me again. The picture that MTV used in that news report I had never seen before. Here's the link for the picture: http://mtv.com/news/images/a/tori980318.gif That's it. BTW, have any of you people who *so* kindly posted "Spark" soundclips on the web for us all to enjoy been contacted by Atlantic Records as the MTV news report affirms? Giovanni (listening to "Spark" as I write). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:20:02 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: MORE News! IMPORTANT **read** Giovanni informed us: > Ok, friends, here it goes, this one is taken from the MTV website. > > ----------------------- > > 3.18.98 15:30 EDT > Atlantic Records Fights To Keep New Tori Amos Song Under Wraps > > Atlantic Records is reportedly in the process of filing cease and desist > orders against web masters who have illegally posted soundclips of a new > Tori Amos song on the web. What an enormous load of garbage! None of the clips I heard are even *good* quality, let alone anything worth genuinely complaining about. This looks to me to be an obvious publicity ploy. The song is apparently being played regularly on HFS. The stations that played it clearly did so with Atlantic's permission, and they know enough about the internet that they should have expected it to be online soon thereafter. Unbelievable. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:21:55 -0500 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! Wuz going on here?!?! What the crap! I thought Atlantic would support this for the lord's sake! Those sound clips are not top quality. They sound pretty low quality. That's because they were recorded from the radio.... But that doesn't mean I'm not 100% thankful to Kip, Mike...etc. I'm forever thankful! I thought Atlantic would support this. A low quality version of this excellent song would get it out to more fans so they would know they HAVE to buy the top notch single... To Kip, Mike, and any other website owner's with this clip, I'm so sorry Atlantic is angry. If they're going to do anything besides make you remove the clip, tell me, and I will write letters in your defense. EWF, wanna join in? I think it is sort of our responsibility..... Tripp Gwyn tgwyn@infoave.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:22:04 -0500 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: Re: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! This reminds me of something Sony did when a much touted playstation game, Final Fantasy VII, was released "ahead of schedule". They made a big to do about it, the media ran wild, and everyone rushed to get it. Then, when it all died down people wondered.... how come this happened? They realized it was all a setup to cause a media blitz. Somehow, I believe those tapes did not "accidentally" fall into the hands of the radio stations. It's was probably set up. Now look.... it's on MTV news, and everyone will be scrambling to hear this new "illegal" song. If it was a setup, I'm all for it- the more publicity Tori gets, the better! Geoff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And I'm askin' the good Lord, "Why?" and sigh.... He told me we lived to die." -Bone Thugs~N~Harmony - -----Original Message----- From: Tripp Gwyn To: Precious Things Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 7:27 PM Subject: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! > >Wuz going on here?!?! What the crap! I thought Atlantic would support this >for the lord's sake! Those sound clips are not top quality. They sound >pretty low quality. That's because they were recorded from the radio.... >But that doesn't mean I'm not 100% thankful to Kip, Mike...etc. I'm >forever thankful! I thought Atlantic would support this. A low quality >version of this excellent song would get it out to more fans so they would >know they HAVE to buy the top notch single... > >To Kip, Mike, and any other website owner's with this clip, I'm so sorry >Atlantic is angry. If they're going to do anything besides make you remove >the clip, tell me, and I will write letters in your defense. EWF, wanna >join in? I think it is sort of our responsibility..... > >Tripp Gwyn >tgwyn@infoave.net > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:12:58 EST From: Auburn2244 Subject: Re: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! In a message dated 98-03-18 19:29:21 EST, Tripp wrote: << To Kip, Mike, and any other website owner's with this clip, I'm so sorry Atlantic is angry. If they're going to do anything besides make you remove the clip, tell me, and I will write letters in your defense. EWF, wanna join in? I think it is sort of our responsibility..... >> I am behind this 100% Atlantic is being ridiculous and I will most definitley write a letter in anyone's defense!!! Keep it real, Sarah :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:25:57 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Curry Subject: ADMIN: How to unsub from precious-things Here's that periodic reminder again... How to unsubscribe from precious-things: Address your email to majordomo@smoe.org, with no subject and a body of: unsubscribe precious-things (for the loose version) OR unsubscribe precious-things-digest (for the digest version) Mike | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:32:53 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: Atlantic: Cease and Desist, how incompetent!! Tripp and anyone else: Calm down. Do it now. As Richard H. so kindly pointed out, This is what they call PR. AtRec leaks a record to a station, allows it to go across the internet for 5 - 7 days, then insists that it is pulled. Everyone hears it, whets everyone's appitite, then it makes good copy when it is pulled. This is quite simply, a wonderful publicity stunt with a gracious nod to us EwF on the net. Atlantic Records essentially gave us all a present of a sneak peek, and in return, more people are aware that Tori has a new album coming out. To anyone who gets a notice from AtRecs, I suggest you do as they ask, don't stand on any principles. We play nice, they play nice and we get goodies months before the album is released. I think there might be some more stunts in store. Just my opinion, of course. So to those that are upset, I suggest that you tape Spark if you absolutely have to listen to it and enjoy the ride. I think it's quite a homage to us net freaks. IMHO of course Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** I gave my life to become the person I am. Was it worth it? - -richard bach- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:36:43 -0500 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: Alanis Morissete Mp3 Hello, I know this isn't Tori related, and I'm sorry, but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find the MP3 of the new Alanis song, Uninvited. Thank you, and please e-mail me privately. Geoff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And I'm askin' the good Lord, "Why?" and sigh.... He told me we lived to die." -Bone Thugs~N~Harmony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:14:13 PST From: "Nick Schutz" Subject: Spark I just heard Spark today for the first time. It's pretty cool. It's not a complete change for Tori. I like the sort of lounginess to it. It's sort of like the Scott Weiland song "Lady Your Roof Brings Me Down." I mean, it like gives off the same vibe. It's pretty cool. I want to hear more... Nick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:25:44 -0800 From: violet@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: News! About the Tower/Atlantic/AT&T bonus Tori track on the Net, Bob writes: >2 words. Just 2 words repeated over and over.... > >Lame. Utterly, utterly lame. > >Headlines might just as well have read: >Mom 'n' Pop stores take another one to the chin as labels ally themselves >even more tightly with the big guys. [...snip...} >Put the song on a single and I'll buy it in an instant, but damned if I'll >>be goaded into purchasing the disc from any particular store, especially >one that doesn't even bother to have a presence in my city If only so many Torifans weren't so desperate about snatching up anything Tori, no matter what or where, I would entertain the fantasy of suggesting that we all ignore this offer entirely. If it bombs, they won't be likely to do stupid things like this anymore. I, for one, plan to go out of my way to drive past three Tower Records on my way to my favorite local store. I'll be damned if I'm going to let corporate deals control me. I've given Atlantic my money for years as I've gone out and bought every piddling Tori single that's been dangled in front of me. I am not going to sit still for them now telling me WHERE to buy. If I buy the album, I should get exactly what anyone else gets when they buy it. Singling people out is infuriating. We're all laying down our money, so offer it to us all, dammit. Violet xoxox ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:09:00 -0800 From: violet@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: spark--atlantic records >from mtv online... > >According to Billboard Online, an unnamed new track from >Amos' new album will be available to download April 7 from >AT&T's a2b music Web site. But computer users will have to >purchase full-length albums from Tower's stores or their >website in order to receive the password needed to access the >song. What has me confused is that the album is due out May 5, but the free track will available for download April 7th for those who "purchase full-length albums from Tower's stores or their website." Does this mean OTHER albums, or Tori's? And if they mean Tori's, how can we purchase the album (from Tower *stores* anyway) if it won't be released until nearly a month after the download date??? People who buy from the stores will be left in the dark until May 5th, even if they DO buy the album? And by then, everyone online will have heard that secret song, just like they heard Spark. Maybe I'm not getting the idea. I will say it again...I would like to know why Atlantic is playing so many games. It's ridiculous. From the "fan-driven" tour that has actually done nothing but make fans frantic and is clearly NOT for our benefit at all to the fact that all the information anyone has so far has come from places like MTV and Jam!... it's been a farce. Events are already shaping up to be even worse than last tour (when we got NO information from Atlantic or their never-finished or updated Tori site...THAT was a joke). During the LE and UtP eras, the record company seemed to cared about us. Then, as soon as Tori started becoming popular and had built up a fan base, the tide turned; the focus became mediamediamedia and we --the loyal fans - -- were abandoned. It makes me heartsick. Bizness-shmizness. It's BS, no matter how you spell it. People can keep believing "well, hey, it's a business" all they like... It doesn't HAVE to be this way. There are record companies and performers who do manage to respect the fans and put them first. And recently I find out that the RAINN site is rarely updated why?, because Atlantic controls it. Whose poor judgement was this? Someone please bring in the REAL businesspeople. You know...the ones who know what they're doing. Violet xoxox ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:51:32 PST From: "Tamika Pinkney" Subject: Re: The Fat of the Land--Prodigy I'm new to this list and all, but I thought I might say something about what is going on with that comment from Tori's interview. First, I'd like to say, that I agree with Ruth. She had it right. I listen to Marilyn Manson (no hissing) and they covered a song called "Rock-N-Roll Nigger". Well, me being black I was instantly mad and I didn't even listen to the thing. And then I did. Well, when I listened to it, I made myself listen it to it deep so that I can figure out what it was about. Well, it's not offensive. Well, to me anyway. It just was a song and I kind of liked it too. I tried to make myself not do it, you know, like it. In fact I listened to it, making sure I'd hate it. But that was not the case. So I looked on the internet and all and I just looked around for information about it, why they covered the song. And it wasn't for racist reasons at all because they said they weren't racist. And I thought that was cool. I didn't figure out the EXACT reason why they did the song but I know it is not for the reason everyone thought it was. But then i realized that a song is just a song sometimes and they shouldn't control you. They shouldn't control your hatred. You should. I believe hatred can be used to further yourself. If a song is about rape and that makes you mad, you shouldn't condemn the song, you should go out and help a rape victim. I read this book (to be left nameless) and it was talking about breeders and how they are bad for the world. That didn't make me mad. But I thought that if it did make you mad, maybe you can help women go through an abortion or go against a husband who has beat them for most of their lives. So I agree with Ruth. Hatred that originates from a book or a phrase from a song or a slogan, should be used to change the world, to make people stronger. Well, sorry for rambling. Bye. Tamika. "If you don't have a name, what do people call you? I mean do they just wave and smile, or jingle little silver bells or what?" - --Delirium Delirium Smiles: A place to go. http://members.aol.com/LadySun555/main.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:57:52 -0500 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Re: News! I agree with you 100%. I think the idea is the lamest thing i've ever heard. If it's a brand new track I will say I'll probably get it. However, if it's only getting a new album track a few weeks early, then I will not participate. I also read something somewhere about Tori's music being connected along with other ATlantic ARtists to a new sports promotion deal. I think it would be kind of dumb..... Tripp > I, for one, plan to go out of my way to drive past three Tower Records on > my way to my favorite local store. I'll be damned if I'm going to let > corporate deals control me. I've given Atlantic my money for years as I've > gone out and bought every piddling Tori single that's been dangled in front > of me. I am not going to sit still for them now telling me WHERE to buy. > If I buy the album, I should get exactly what anyone else gets when they > buy it. Singling people out is infuriating. We're all laying down our > money, so offer it to us all, dammit. > > Violet > xoxox > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:16:01 -0500 From: Gwenevere@alloymail.com Subject: Atlantic Records & other stuff Ok hello..first of all this is my other screename..I'm usually JupiterCMS@aol.com..ok yeah the whole Atlantic thing..it is soooooooo dumb..it was obviously a BIG set-up...oh well I guess thats how the world is.. but in any case if anyone needs me to write a letter...Kip, Mike..etc..whomever(sp?) else was KEWL enough to let Spark be available to us..I would be happy to write a letter =)..you guys kick n' stuff !!! Ya well I think I'm done rambling for the time being..oh also I hate to bring it up..but I fully agree w/ you (Paul & Beth)..about that whole Tori miscarriage thing..it was tasteless to continue talking about it.. I had a miscarriage last year..i know how it is..if it really is true I feel really bad 4 Tori..ok I'll stop talkin' now.. peace out- dusk =()...bye ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:31:03 -0500 From: wojs of mass destruction Subject: Re: Spark also sprach Nick Schutz: >I just heard Spark today for the first time. It's pretty cool. It's >not a complete change for Tori. i agree. what struck me first about "spark" was how little it *isn't* a change for tori. the song would certainly not be out of place on _under the pink_ and it's not too much of a stretch to imagine it on _little earthquakes_ or _boys for pele_. i think that expectations, based on what little tori had said and the touring with a band thing, were for something much more drastic than what it turned out to be. woj ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #93 ************************************