From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #86 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, March 12 1998 Volume 03 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: EWF australians + poss. tour? ["Planet Tori" ] tori wedding pics ["Mishel Cottam" ] tori's wedding ["Princess Saige" ] Re: tori's wedding ["sleek, sheek, GQ duck" ] Re: tori's wedding [Get Rid of Hurd ] Re: tori's wedding [Anavrin560 ] for Neil and b5 fans [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: Fear of Tori's evolution of style ["La Wench" ] Re: for Neil and b5 fans [Mikewhy ] Re: change [Cindergirl ] :::sigh:::: [Is It Rite ] priceless [Jon & Janet Haverman ] a lifetime is a long time [Jon & Janet Haverman ] Sorry! and other things... [Is It Rite ] Tori & Nina Simone ["K. Fischer" ] Re: tori's wedding [allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox)] re: Baltimore [Beth Coulter ] Tori mentioned... ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] FW: World Charts ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] Re: Copying MP3's to CD [Yanos Aldron ] Re: Fear of Tori's evolution of style [Xackary Phobe ] Re: The new album and promo materials [Beth Coulter Subject: Re: EWF australians + poss. tour? Gday all Aussie EWF Mishel Wrote: > i've only just started getting this list and i was wondering if > their were any other EWF aussies who would like to help me out with a > petition to get tori to tour here this time 'round. if so email me > privately so we don't take up this list. Mmm, it is an idea seeing that for whatever reasons Tori decided not to tour Australia at all on the last tour in 1996 .That makes it "4 Years" since we got hammered by the Goddess! Will Tori tour Australia in 1998/99? It's a good question and be rest assured we are "plugged" into the powers that be and will announce any Australian Tour news the moment we can confirm :) For the record an Australian Tour has not been confirmed nor denied! RDT Terry, Mariana and Staff PLANET TORI NETWORK (Radio) http://www.geocities.com/~planettori PLANET TORI RADIO REQUESTS http://homepages.tig.com.au/~spacedog/requests.html - -------------------------------------------- "She's a Beauty Queen, my sweet bean bag in the street" Tori Amos - ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:38:45 EST From: Is It Rite Subject: Re: Fear of Tori's evolution of style Dear you guys, I am in a strange mood..need to talk to something..something being this "paper" (?) and well if you are bored..odd..kind..or curious read on. If not..delete before it gets dangerous. I'm in one of those tori-talking moods.Bare with me. >I can't imagine for a second not liking Tori's work. For me, it's never >been strictly what she's done as much as where it's come from. THAT'S >what's interesting to me, and that's what I relate to. The feelings, the >expression. And the musicianship used to translate those things into >something I can *feel* -- not just on a conscious level, but on an >instinctive one. She hit it! Its where it comes from rather than what it is as music i suppose for me. I mean I think from an objective view the music is excellent as well. But its not really about.."well she played the piano really good at that one part" kinda stuff. Recently I got the In Conversation interview disc and Tori does this thing to me. While I was listening, I couldn't help but get a little case of the watery eyes (this may also have to do with the fact that I am INCREDIBLY emotional...i once cried at a Hallmark commercial..you know the one where the brother comes back from college and...nevermind) because..hmm..how do i explain how i felt? Well when she starts talking about how we aren't taught to be whole. And when she talks about how she talks to trees and most people find that behavior silly. But they don't really know why they find it silly. Its like she said before "Who said that? Who made up that rule? The worms have eaten him". And I guess what I feel when I listen is kinda like this: "YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!!" And other times when she says things its incredibly moving because it might be something that I have thought about but never really known how to express because i'm not too good at trying to explain whats going on in my head. (see this letter for evidence). Sometimes it feels like my thoughts have been sucked into the tape and she's translating the feelings and realities of every person everywhere. Like all of us have been sucked into the tape. I don't know. I know i'm babbling. Let me. I know I'm not saying anything new. Most ewf's feel similar things. There are some people who do not and listen simply for the music as in...how one would listen to a radio.(what the hell did that mean?) And they may LOVE the music and not really know (or care) about what Tori has to say. Its not like those are bad people. There are lots of bands/musicians who I listen to basically just for the music. I don't feel guilty. hehe. But with Tori fans you can tell which are fans and which are ears. Doesn't mean we hate the fans. Certainly not. No no no. But its comforting to know that when we really want to talk about our tori feelings..other people can understand and respond with something other than "That 'Silent All These Years' song is really kickass". You deserve lots of pretty things if you have gotten all the way here. I'm really sorry but I need to type. Weird. Email me por favor. Es importante. Maybe I'm a witch lost in time, Jenny P.S. Violet's cake example was absolutely delicious. Mmmmmthanks. P.P.S. Please keep the letters for Oprah coming because I told my aunt I would have them soon. I've still only received a few. I am kinda hurt that no one has really responded to this. ( i mean not responses as in letters but posts) I think to give the letters, physically, to Oprah in the form of a folder would be the most rewarding way to do this. I just want to know opinions thats all! Come on guys come on. For random people: http://members.aol.com/isitrite/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Soon the child's clear eye is clouded over by ideas and opinions, preconceptions and abstractions. Simple free being becomes encrusted with the burdensome armor of the ego. Not until years later does an instinct come that a vital sense of mystery has been withdrawn. The sun glints through the pines, and the heart is pierced in a moment of beauty and strange pain, like a memory of paradise. After that day . . . we become seekers." ~Peter Matthiessen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:10:05 PST From: "Mishel Cottam" Subject: tori wedding pics finally i get to bring u some tori news today i got the shock of my life as i was flicking thru a mag 'New Weekly' - this is an australian mag - whilst waiting at my hairdressers and i suddenly see tori in a wedding dress - they had pictures from the wedding.(there would be an exclamation point here but i know tori doesn't like them) i just about died. the New Weekly mag i think came out on monday but is dated March 16. the small article titled 'Tori takes a vow' is on pages 24 and 25 with 4 pictures - 3 of tori and mark and 1 of the church in which they were married. there is a brief article with it which reads as follows - "Wacky Tori Amos, hit singer of Cornflake Girl, Blue Skies and Silent All These Years, married sound engineer Mark Hawley last month. But the big surprise was that her father, Methodist minister Dr Edison Amos, gave her away. The father and daughter have had a stormy relationship for years - Tori's hatred of religion was a response to his beliefs, and several songs from her album Little Earthquakes condemned her parents. Tori and Mark, both 33, met while working on her new album, From The Choirgirl Hotel(out early May), which was recorded in a 300-year-old farmhous in Cornwall, UK. Tori who grew up in North Carolina, USA, has lived in England for several years. She's currently featured on the soundtrack for the film Great Expectations." wacky? god what a horrible word to describe her with. i'm not too sure about that 'stormy relationship' with her father either. i don't find it a surprise that he gave her away at all. normally i wouldn't buy this magazine either as it tends to be a very rumour spreading/paparazzi based magazine so i did feel uncomfortable buying the magazine as this maybe invading tori's privacy. i'm sure there will be some debate over this. tho tori does just look so radiant and stunning and elegant and hapee! absolutely beautiful. i'm not sure whether i should describe her wedding dress to you as i know some of you have preconceptions of what it may look like but it is gorgeous - very simple. unfortunately i do not have a scanner but i'm sure there is someone else out there who lives in australia and can scan them for you if they buy the magazine. anyways luv mishy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:32:45 EST From: "Princess Saige" Subject: tori's wedding I don't know if this is just me, but I always liked to think of Tori as "available" and now that she's married I find myself sad at times. I even cried when I found out she was married. I try to be happy for her, but it doesn't work... I know it's probably just me being immature or something... I was just wondering if I was alone with this or not. Does anyone else feel this way? thanks ahead of time, Stacie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:42:26 -0600 From: "sleek, sheek, GQ duck" Subject: Re: tori's wedding >Does anyone else feel this way? > the first thing i thought was "what about my future wif her?" (tee*hee.) a. "love is a dangerous angel," dirk said. [h t t p : http://www.overlap.org . o r g ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:53:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Get Rid of Hurd Subject: Re: tori's wedding On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Princess Saige wrote: > >I don't know if this is just me, but I always liked to think of Tori as >"available" and now that she's married I find myself sad at times. I >even cried when I found out she was married. I try to be happy for her, >but it doesn't work... I know it's probably just me being immature or >something... I was just wondering if I was alone with this or not. > >Does anyone else feel this way? How about every day??? Paul (happy for her tho) - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | "These aren't cars we're selling. http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du | They're todgers" http://toristuff.home.ml.org | - Swiss Toni - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "Headmaster suspended for using big-faced child as satellite dish" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:06:10 EST From: Anavrin560 Subject: Re: tori's wedding You know I wasn't that sad, cause for awhile I've wanted to die and be reincarnated as her child, so for me, her getting married was just part of the plan. :-) carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:41:45 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: for Neil and b5 fans Apologies from the start about the non-Tori content, but I just thought I'd pass this along for the other Neil Gaiman fans out there. Tonight's episode of Babylon 5 (TNT 9pm CST) was written by Gaiman. It origianlly was supposed to air on April first, but they moved it up to tonight (probably so they wouldn't have to compete w/the new episode of South Park). It will be repeated on Saturday, 6pm CST. -- The Mermaid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:49:45 PST From: "La Wench" Subject: Re: Fear of Tori's evolution of style i like that idea :) here's another cooking thought...let's use spaghetti sauce shall we? you use the same ingredients every time you make it (well...i do), and yet it never tastes exactly the same twice. sometimes you have to add extra stuff to get the balance, and sometimes it's just better than others in some way, not meaning it's bad though...just different. so that's the way i think of tori's music: the ingredients are her, a piano or two, and a bunch o' guys to help out. and although the "sauce" never turns out the same every time, you can still appreciate the different flavours. i can't imagine not liking any tori-flavour. bright blessings, veronica ...................................................................... "i like being a mess...it's who i am" - ally mcbeal "she was caught in a love triangle, forced to choose between her love for shoes, and her love for him...and frankly, he just didn't match her purse." - found on a greeting card ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:57:03 -0600 (CST) From: Carole Bellamy Subject: Useless Tori tidbit Hi everyone, Like the subject line says, this is completely useless, but I was watching my cheesy soap, Another World, *shoot me for it, but I'm addicted* and in the background I heard a familiar voice. It was Tori nonetheless, singing "Cornflake Girls". It just made my day!:-) Shannon xoxxo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:52:48 -0500 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: for Neil and b5 fans The Mermaid wrote: >Tonight's episode of Babylon 5 (TNT 9pm CST) was written by >Gaiman. It origianlly was supposed to air on April first, but they moved >it up to tonight (probably so they wouldn't have to compete w/the new >episode of South Park). It will be repeated on Saturday, 6pm CST. I just want to add that I think Babylon 5 is the best science fiction show I have ever seen, and that it is also one of the best TV series I have ever seen. I have even seen a few parallels between the thoughts of its creator,J Michael Straczynski and Tori. For example, in a recent interview, JMS said: "My feeling is that we have lost something very important in this country. We lost myth and we lost the future. I'm 43 years old and even I remember a time in this country when there were pavilions of the future, World's Fairs of the future, kitchens of the future. And we wanted to know when was it going to get here. And the problem is we stumbled along the way. And when you stumble as a culture, you take your eyes off the horizon and look at your feet because you don't want to stumble anymore. We stumbled at Martin Luther King, at the Kennedys and Vietnam and Korea and Watergate. And after a while, we forget that we're going somewhere, that we're part of a grand parade. That behind us are our ancestors are saying, "Make our lives have had meaning." And ahead of us are our inheritors saying, "Create the world we're going to live in." We just get caught up in having jobs and eating dinner and forgetting the parade. And Babylon 5 has tried where it can to point to that parade, to say, "We're going somewhere." I personally see a lot of common ground between this statement, and *some* of the statements I have read from Tori. If this makes no sense please forgive me! But I do LOVE Babylon 5! Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:55:49 EST From: Cindergirl Subject: Re: change Thank You is on the Crucify EP...really good song, i must say. **Tory** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:32:20 EST From: Is It Rite Subject: :::sigh:::: Hello you and you, ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:38:18 +0000 From: Jon & Janet Haverman Subject: priceless >From: "Geoff Moore" >Subject: Talula Singles > >What's the value of the two Talula singles printed in the U.K.? priceless. actually, i just sold these for $6 a piece. These are the UK singles which were mass produced, and if they were in the US, they have been marked down by now, aka (cut out). I do see them for sale at $10 though at the import shops through Goldmine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:38:20 +0000 From: Jon & Janet Haverman Subject: a lifetime is a long time > I myself have >>been looking for a copy for about 3 years, and have never found it; I >>doubt that one is going to become available in my lifetime. >> >>If you're just looking to hear the song, it's available on several >>boots. >> >>/nad Hopefully you have a long time to live. Don't give up hope though. The same story can be said of the Original version of David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" LP cover. The original shot showed the Dogs genitals, which was not approved for release. Thus a cover of Bowie was used with dog-like features. There was rumored to be only about five copies of the original cover ever made. A few years ago at a Sothebys(check spelling here) auction, one was shown and sold. Making the top 10 of alltime collectible rock records. At this time another copy is being available by silent auction. I have submitted my bid, with the hopes that I can find the most collectible record by the artist who influenced me more than any other in my teenage years. I first saw Bowie while living with my mother off Picadilly in London. Now much older (but not wiser), I find Tori as stimulating and intriging now as I did Bowie back in 72-75. Now there are numerous rock collectible records out there, i.e. original Free Wheelin' Bob Dylan, original Butcher cover, etc. etc. Goldmine Magazine has already labelled Tori as the most collectible 90's artist. Even though some of the early releases have levelled off, or even have come down. What we need to find is some old fogey who lives, breathes and then dies a Baltimorian (made up word), and the old lady takes his 45 rpm records to the garage sale!! Wouldn't that be a find, like I found the original Beatles LOVE ME DO LP with brackets and advertising in the back for a quarter. When I went to Ireland last year to see my folks, I paid for my plane flight with just this record. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:40:34 EST From: Is It Rite Subject: Sorry! and other things... Wow I didn't mean to press send on that last email. Whoops. Anyway.... lately i feel like i am not being listened to. it's a terrible feeling. i think i'm too sensitive. sorry why am i telling this to hundreds of people. Hey..makes me think...how many people ARE on this mailing list? my mom had donated some money to rainn and she got to choose between a cd and "something else" she said. I never even knew that she donated other than what we donated before but when she picked me up from school she handed me the package that came in the mail with the return address rainn. it was a single with tori on the front (same picture as on the silent all these years rainn single...different colors) and had 2 songs: "Me And A Gun" and "Putting the Damage On" (album version not twilight). So i'm a bit happy. who has this? Also, I was in the girls bathroom waiting for my friend to come out of the stall. (lol that sounded odd) and i saw this girl had put her books down and she had on top of her books, Under the Pink and the Great Expectations soundtrack. Now these may seem like usual situations but not in my school. it is largely populated by what one would refer to as a "homey g" if you will. i only know of a few toriphiles. i don't even know if they are big listeners. i saw one guy at the concert here. thats all. but it made me happy. i can't believe i didn't say anything to her. weird. are my letters too long? by the way, can someone...anyone...respond to this...i really really need to feel like my thoughts aren't going to shit. thanks a lot, jenny P.S. I'm really feeling this now...i don't know why..."Deck the halls..i'm young again..i'm you again" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:51:45 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Tori & Nina Simone Last week when people were talking about the song 'Strange Fruit' and the various artists who have covered it (including Tori) I thought of Nina Simone's cover. I have been thinking of what it would be like if Tori covered some of Nina's own songs, and I have been surprised at how much they have in common. Nina Simone was born and grew up in North Carolina, she was labeled a 'prodigious musical talent' early in life, and at age 6 she played the piano at the church where her mother (not father) was the minister. She later enrolled at Julliard, but was later rejected for a musical scholarship and had to drop out. In order to make a living she decided to be a singer-pianist at a nightclub, and this is when she changed her name from Eunice to Nina. Her lyrics are very powerful, and she is known for being very blunt about painful issues. After reading all this I could not believe how much it sounded like Tori's story. If you are a Billy Holiday, then you probably would love Nina Simone. Tori comes closest to Nina's style on BFP with songs like ITSOHVoodoo. Karin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:07:09 -0700 From: allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox) Subject: Re: tori's wedding Uuuuuum, oooook........ :) Warren You know I wasn't that sad, cause for awhile I've wanted to die and be reincarnated as her child, so for me, her getting married was just part of the plan. :-) carol - --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:44:07 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: re: Baltimore >> >>Baltimore was recorded when Tori was 15. _Tori Amos Collectibles_ by >>Paul Campbell {which I -highly- recommend if you intend to start >>collecting Tori stuff} says: >> >> Baltimore, still the rarest and most unobtainable Tori single, >> because there are fewer than ten in circulation, was written in >> 1980 in response to a Baltimore city contest to come up with a theme >> song for the city and is quite different from anythin Tori has recorded >> since. The B side, Walking With You, is a much more middle-of-the-road >> love song. It's quite pleasant, clearly showing promise of what's to >> come. Financed by her father, _Baltimore_ was pressed on their new 'MEA' >> (for Myra Ellen Amos) label. > I wanted to put in a personal note. When I first heard *Baltimore*, I immediately thought, "What a great 80s sitcom theme song!" That's what it sounds like, a show set in Baltimore and here is this cheery little number about loving living in Baltimore. *Walking with You* is *very* reminisent of Karen Carpenter. Same flavor, if you know what I mean. I really like both of them a great deal for making smile and highly recommend getting a listen anyway you can. I mean, this is *upbeat, cheery Tori*, but still our dear red-head. :) Fairy Blessings, Bethey - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** - --"I'm not going anywhere. So, just, Trust Me." Tori Amos- Rome, Italy; 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:05:28 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Tori mentioned... Hey, Tori was mentioned in a review of "Becoming Remixed", Sneaker Pimp's new album. If you want to check it out, just go to: http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Reviews/44.1kHz/Sneaker_Pimps/Becoming_Remix ed.html That's it. Giovanni "Why do all the things I say sound like the stupid things I said before?" Madonna, "Skin" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:14:35 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: FW: World Charts Hi, I am a subscriber to the WorldCharts list (www.worldcharts.com) and I received this email and thought that perhaps some of you people would want to submit your sites to participate in their respective categories. I think Mikewhy's site MUST be submitted, I will vote it every week. 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If you were some big major star, like oprah, and you hire a decorator, like your aunt, and she comes to you one day with an envelope of (what would look like to her) fan mail, would you be pleased? I know some stars have some major ego thing happening and it's all about them, so you may need to consider the ramifications... btw, I haven't heard the conversation discs, but I know what you are talking about. When I initially got the Little Earthquakes CD, I could not listen to anything else for three months! The lyrics touched me, the music touched me... and this is not something that I normally do. I am a recording artist, myself, and I have always listened to a wide variety of music. Even George(boy) has never captured my attention the way tori did with LE. (And I collected almost everything I could get my hands on from him in the early 80's) I am a gay male, so when she sang about being "everyone else's girl...maybe one day she'll be her own..." it expressed what i was feeling at that time(relationship-wise). sorry to have babbled on, also... tee hee steve <<<<<<<<< P.P.S. Please keep the letters for Oprah coming because I told my aunt I would have them soon. I've still only received a few. I am kinda hurt that no one has really responded to this. ( i mean not responses as in letters but posts) I think to give the letters, physically, to Oprah in the form of a folder would be the most rewarding way to do this. I just want to know opinions thats all! Come on guys come on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -- type you later visit my web site.. http://members.aol.com/xackphobe lots of tori/doa/bg stuff for sale! - --- "I just want someone who can love me as much as I love them..."-Me - --- "Every day you wait is another day you WASTE" -Me - --- "Eric, do you need to sit in the corner until your flaming gas is under control?"-Mr Garrison (Southpark) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:34:29 -0800 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: The new album and promo materials I've been reading a lot of what people have to say about the new album, speculating on its sound based on what Tori herself has said about it, and all I can do is shake my head. Not at you guys, it makes complete sense what you're trying to do, but I just have no idea how you can come up with the way an album is going to sound based on the kinds of wacko comments that usually come out of Tori's mouth. :) I want to know what it'll sound like as much as the next EWF, but I just can't throw myself around trying to figure this out. The feeling *I* get from all the information we've been given -- from "the piano is going to be in the spotlight less" to "it's going to be more electric" to "it's going to be more joyous" to "the other 3 albums were a trilogy and this is something else" -- is that we will have NO idea. We're going to hear something we won't expect, we shouldn't expect, and that we should just allow ourselves to be surprised by it when we hear it. And that we will not be able to figure it out ahead of time, even if we think we have. I know it's our civic duty to try and figure this stuff out when we're anticipation... :) Anyway, I've also gotten the idea from things Tori has said that she's a bit fed up with us folks on the internet trying to track her every move, trying to figure out exactly everything she's doing, from how to meet her at sound check, to what songs she may or not be using as B sides, to who she's dating, and so on. Obviously a lot was hidden from us, beginning with the time she came off tour, especially after she did the RAINN concert. She was so vague -- 'writing in the tropics' -- 'I'm going to disappear for a while' - -- 'I always thought if I had nothing to say I would just shut up and go away for a while' -- not to mention that her relationship with Mark, which has been going on for three or more years now, was hidden from us (successfully!) until very recently. So I think there is a world of difference between the small things she IS telling us, and the larger issues which she IS NOT telling us at this time. I don't even thing Siren is an indication of her 'new direction,' whatever that might be, since it was co-written with someone else -- something she's never done before. Not like that. Sorry to rant, I hope I haven't offended anyone. :) I just had to get that off my chest. To the person who said their friend could get promo materials: yes, that's true, but I have the suspicion that even promotional materials may be kept under tight wraps for this project. The Sarah McLachlan album 'Surfacing' was kept away from the press until the day it was released to the public, and that album had nothing like the kind of advance anticipation that this one seems to have (although that may be because I spend my time online hanging out with Tori fans. :) ). I don't think this one will be quite that tight, but they won't have promo materials until early April at the earliest - -- in time for the press to have a single by the time it hits radio and she's on Letterman -- but it may also not be available to press until the middle of April. Or, it may be kept from the press until the day of release. Tori's publicist is so unpredictable, it's really hard to tell. Ok... that's all I have to say for now, except that you all should get this tribute to Rumours when it comes out, if for no other reason than Jewel's version of "You Make Loving Fun" and Matchbox 20's version of "Never Going Back" are just awesome. :) Beth - -- "One more anal-probing gyro-pyro levitating eco-plasm alien anti-matter and I'm going to take out my gun and shoot somebody." (Fox Mulder, "X-Files") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:56:31 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: The new album and promo materials At 09:34 AM 3/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >I know it's our civic duty to try and figure this stuff out when we're >anticipation... :) > And remember Beth, Like I said, it's just a game, at least what I was trying to do. Just a little distraction while waiting, and waiting, and waiting.... >Anyway, I've also gotten the idea from things Tori has said that she's a bit >fed up with us folks on the internet trying to track her every move, Obviously a lot was hidden from us, beginning with the >time she came off tour, especially after she did the RAINN concert. She was >so vague Well said, My friend!!! I will wholeheartedly agree with Beth. Tori wanted some privacy, she *still* wants privacy. This is a *BIG* thing to her. She can no longer deal, obviously, with the Thousands of Fans who want to know her every move, her every thought, etc. Let Tori tell us all that, whatever and/or however much she wants. It is not our business what she does in private life. So any flames that were toward Beth may be sent to me. >Sorry to rant, I hope I haven't offended anyone. :) I just had to get that >off my chest. > Not offended in the least. But can we still play *guessing games*? Please? pretty please? :( ;) Fairy Blessings, Bethey - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** - --"I'm not going anywhere. So, just, Trust Me." Tori Amos- Rome, Italy; 1994 ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #86 ************************************