From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #60 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- the rush [] no offence... [MM62@aol.com] Re: Tori quote and its implications [Tori805@aol.com] [none] ["Ray Bailey" ] For sale (http://www.eil.co.uk) ["Mike Gray" ] me and a word [Ellen Morris ] me and a word [Ellen Morris ] *rush* [zaina@juno.com (Lisa Zain)] Re: me and a word [ChinaDust@aol.com] Letterman and Leno [Len Alan Demby ] Re: *rush* [Cindergirl@aol.com] For Mark [Tripp Gwyn ] Attn: French toriphiles! [pigs@swva.net (Erin Martin)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 0:26:07 CST From: Subject: the rush Relationships...hmmm...just broke up with the love of my present life, the first 'big one' two days ago...insight? I agree with the Vampire idea...people feed off of each other...you lose part of your identity, or it morphs into a 'them'. I don't think you can have a romantic relationship without the 'rush'. That's what makes the relationship...the catalyst, so to speak. But the deal is...you have to be able to take the punch when the whisky that Aunt Jane slipped in wears off...most kids my age and beyond aren't ready to deal with life together. My boy was two years younger...18. He had alot of growing to do that I've dealt with...hence when his surroundings and security were suddenly smashed, he couldn't hold on to me. He had to let me go. We're still friends, and I believe that we'll stay that way. I do understand Pele more now. The time has come for me to find my fire, and quit swiping it from boys who need it to grow. No more boys. Not even in the middle or on my left side... Caught a lite sneeze... Time for the girl to be on her own for awhile... to get her bitch back. kerriloo^ "thanks for your interest, but my thing is already just the right size..." -miss ani d.- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:25:45 EST From: MM62@aol.com Subject: no offence... In a message dated 2/14/98 10:45:19 PM, you wrote: <> i thought that was a reference to the tentative title for what became "under the pink"-- the tentative title was at one time "god with a capital g"... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:55:16 EST From: Tori805@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori quote and its implications <<<"What gives it to you? Does this rush, this being in love, meeting someone that has it? You want to be close, you want to be near them? No. You can feed off them for a while, but in the end, you're just a vampire." - -Tori Amos This was the Tori quote of the day... for today Anyway, it made me think about the things going on in my life. If that's the case, meaning the quote, when are you_not_ a vampire? All my relationships have had the rush, etc., so how do you sustain one that isn't based off of that, asides from friendship >>> There is a wonderful discussion of this in a book by James Redfield called the Celestine Prophecy. He talks about how couples often keep stealing energy from one another instead of sharing and drawing from the divine. This is what happens when we fight. It is all a battle over energy. The energy we give freely to one another (at first) is the "rush" we feel. But after a while, we don't give the energy freely anymore and instead we take it from each other, when we should be taking it from the world around us - from the divine. This causes problems between two people. I could go on to explain in more detail, but I know you all dont' want to read so much non-Tori content. just go out and get the book - it's really wonderful. I don't know if Tori's read this book or not, but she seems to have hit on this concept. - --Sue ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:58:01 PST From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: [none] Hello everyone... I was on one of my very rare visits to Camelot the other night, and I was looking for the Little Earthquakes piano book. This girl that worked there asked if I needed help finding anything, and I told her what, and she told me she liked Tori too, and that she was really excited about the new album coming out May1st. I am very excited too!!! Just thought I'd share; sorry to bore you. ;) Len- You're from the Hampton Roads area of Virginia?? I just moved from there in August. ==Peace== rAy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:31:08 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: For sale (http://www.eil.co.uk) This showed up on the catalogue a couple of days ago, if anyone is interested... I don't know if these prices are realistic or not, but it's what they're selling them for. - -- TORI AMOS Me And A Gun (Scarce UK 4-trk 12" EP, superb p/s YZ618T) UK 25.00 / $ 41.00 TORI AMOS Me And A Gun (Rare 1st UK 4-trk CD single, p/s YZ618CD) UK 39.99 / $ 66.00 - -- If anyone wants to buy them, the company selling them is Esprit International (they're reliable, I believe) http://www.eil.co.uk or http://www.eil.com Cheers Mike Mike Gray - now - mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk "The time between meeting and finally leaving is sometimes called falling in love" - Lisa Loeb ICQ : 6200976 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:58:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Morris Subject: me and a word hi everyone, i am like the silent member of this thing! i guess i should say something once in a while since it eats up so much of my mailbox space!!! i have been ultra busy lately so i missed a whole discussion of whether or not tori was truly indeed raped. the discussion, i am glad i missed. none of us will ever really know so why do we seem to debate about the details of others lives when we miss the big picture ex: did OJ do it???? what about the big picture that two people were taken away from this world in such a cruel fashion- it got all lost withing the trial and OJ's guilt or inn a sense and racism again, i think the bigger issue is that of rape which through writing me and a gun, and through RAINN tori has managed to help many victimized survivers. even if one has never been raped technically, i think the majority of women can relate to you an experience that was "rape". violation, robbed, raped, murdered...they are all pretty much the same thing, just different remixes of the same evil... actually, this is not what i really want to talk about. it is a story about the RAINN concert. me and my friend went together. during me and a gun, the couple in front of us , bent over and were shaking vigorously...i thought that they could have been sobbing at the time, but that was just hte humanist in me denying that any human could possible so sick as to be so taken by ammusement in tori's performance on such a sensitive issue... afterwards, my friend brought me out of denial and professed that the couple were indeed laughing. It s always bugged me. it was an couple in the 30's or early 40's and probably connected to lifetime, since we were in their section. the thought that adults that were going to work for RAINN which was a whole bit about helping vicitms andd the concert was for this and she was singing about it....i cant even articulate now i am so disturbed. knowing that tori's actual rape was in question on this list serve brought back th same feelings...thank you for reminding what we really are. actually that is why i like tori's music so much, it tells you something you know but dont....it makes you feel... ellen what is beautiful is good, what is good is beautiful sappho ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:58:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Morris Subject: me and a word hi everyone, i am like the silent member of this thing! i guess i should say something once in a while since it eats up so much of my mailbox space!!! i have been ultra busy lately so i missed a whole discussion of whether or not tori was truly indeed raped. the discussion, i am glad i missed. none of us will ever really know so why do we seem to debate about the details of others lives when we miss the big picture ex: did OJ do it???? what about the big picture that two people were taken away from this world in such a cruel fashion- it got all lost withing the trial and OJ's guilt or inn a sense and racism again, i think the bigger issue is that of rape which through writing me and a gun, and through RAINN tori has managed to help many victimized survivers. even if one has never been raped technically, i think the majority of women can relate to you an experience that was "rape". violation, robbed, raped, murdered...they are all pretty much the same thing, just different remixes of the same evil... actually, this is not what i really want to talk about. it is a story about the RAINN concert. me and my friend went together. during me and a gun, the couple in front of us , bent over and were shaking vigorously...i thought that they could have been sobbing at the time, but that was just hte humanist in me denying that any human could possible so sick as to be so taken by ammusement in tori's performance on such a sensitive issue... afterwards, my friend brought me out of denial and professed that the couple were indeed laughing. It s always bugged me. it was an couple in the 30's or early 40's and probably connected to lifetime, since we were in their section. the thought that adults that were going to work for RAINN which was a whole bit about helping vicitms andd the concert was for this and she was singing about it....i cant even articulate now i am so disturbed. knowing that tori's actual rape was in question on this list serve brought back th same feelings...thank you for reminding what we really are. actually that is why i like tori's music so much, it tells you something you know but dont....it makes you feel... ellen what is beautiful is good, what is good is beautiful sappho ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:28:55 EST From: zaina@juno.com (Lisa Zain) Subject: *rush* hey... i'm only 14, and i've gotten WAY past this *rush* everyone's talking about. i mean i may be young, but i was forced to grow up very quickly... ( i live with my dad who works like 100 hours a week and my younger sister) my boyfriend and myself (he's only a year older then me) have been together for quite a while, and plan to be for even longer... i mean i maybe i'm just lucky and i've found what i wanted... but even my previous boyfriend (my only other serious one) wasn't *based* on a rush. sure, it's what attracted me to him... and to my present boyfriend, but once you get passed the quickening of the heart, blushing *oh my god there he is* mode, you have to make sure you're with someone you really enjoy being around, not just being seen with... Tori rules! Lisa Zain ... so if you jump, you best jump far... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:15:50 EST From: ChinaDust@aol.com Subject: Re: me and a word In a message dated 98-02-15 13:52:42 EST, emorris@mailbox.syr.edu writes: << the discussion, i am glad i missed. none of us will ever really know so why do we seem to debate about the details of others lives when we miss the big picture >> yeah, i guess no one will know and has no right to know the very details, but i found an interview that sheds some collective light on the whole thing...and i remember a girl asking me to give her the closest thing to the truth or something like that, so this is all i've got, girl...most of you have probably read this already, but just in case, here's a page from MikeWhy's shrine: Tori Amos and the Question Of Rape eileen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:06:07 -0500 From: Len Alan Demby Subject: Letterman and Leno Hello everybody, Tori Amos will be on Letterman on April 10th and Leno on May 12th (a day before my birthday). "I want to bite people's butts when they hear my record, and I want people to want to bite other people's butts when they hear it." - -Tori on her upcoming 1998 album ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:17:51 EST From: Cindergirl@aol.com Subject: Re: *rush* In a message dated 98-02-15 14:13:35 EST, you write: << i'm only 14, and i've gotten WAY past this *rush* everyone's talking about. once you get passed the quickening of the heart, blushing *oh my god there he is* mode, you have to make sure you're with someone you really enjoy being around, not just being seen with... >> i totally agree with this. and that is so true, and i've been thru all that. ha, you're only 14. i'm 14 too, but that's not the point. :) 14 doesn't seem so young when you're living it eh? ha i'm stupid i'm being dumb tonight. i saw the wedding singer today and it was the greatest movie in the world me and my boyfriend sang along to all the cheesy 80s songs that i love SO MUCH. anyway to the tori content, see i was reading the lyrics to 'mary' the other day and i noticed something. it says "Like Jimmy said, even the wind calls your name" or something like that. and i remembered the song 'the wind cries mary' by jimi hendrix and i finally figured out that's what she was referring to. Ah! i don't know whether to feel smart or stupid. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:04:19 -0500 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: For Mark I listened to FOR MARK today for the first time....I love it so much. I really hope Tori will consider it as a B-Side. WOuld someone PLEAS send me the lyrics... Tripp Gwyn tgwyn@infoave.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:55:12 -0500 From: pigs@swva.net (Erin Martin) Subject: Attn: French toriphiles! Bonjour! I'm looking for help from any EWF out there in France. I have a friend from Paris who goes back often and said she could get me some French Tori if I tell her what to get. I was wondering what Tori stuff you'd often find in a place like FNAC or somewhere that you can't get in the USA. I remember Stephan Fauchille from (I think) Lyon but I don't know who else out there knows about this...could you please email me privately if you do? Thanks a lot! Silence faith and luck, Erin ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #60 ************************************