From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #55 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 03 : Number 055 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Brian the Lion ] Re: Kate Bush [JoniDoe24@aol.com] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Brian the Lion ] Re: Kate Bush [JoniDoe24@aol.com] Re: Technical Difficulties [BF & VA Maier ] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Brian the Lion ] Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! [Stephanie Handley ] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Brian the Lion ] Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! [Stephanie Handley ] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: Kate Bush [JoniDoe24@aol.com] Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! [Stephanie Handley ] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] Argh!! [JLee833093@aol.com] Technical Difficulties [lilchibi@flash.net] Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO [Liz ] Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! [Stephanie Handley ] duplicate messages [Jennifer Frediani ] Re: tori married? ["Capriccio 191" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:29:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Brian the Lion Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > --MoIIy I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... but don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as God.... I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her sentiments totally become a bad person.... for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to live.... though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here - ---------------------- Brian the Lion bos197@soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:29:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Brian the Lion Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > --MoIIy I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... but don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as God.... I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her sentiments totally become a bad person.... for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to live.... though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here - ---------------------- Brian the Lion bos197@soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:08:24 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Technical Difficulties me too... how bizarre! oh well, at least i am not the only one! with faerie dust and best wishes, ~*~heidi~*~ lilchibi@flash.net wrote: > > Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! > I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: > > Mike's sorry > and the Tori Rape thing > and the Kate Bush thing > > Weird... - -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:29:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Brian the Lion Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > --MoIIy I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... but don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as God.... I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her sentiments totally become a bad person.... for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to live.... though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here - ---------------------- Brian the Lion bos197@soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:22:03 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! After having visited my favorite radio station, WHFS, (who are also good friends with Tori, since she's from this area, and they supported her early on, as stated already by Richard Handal), I learned that stations mainly have just the cd singles, not entire albums, in their collections. I brought the morning crew doughnuts and asked them to play my favorite, Doughnut Song, but they didn't have the whole cd, just the singles that were released. So, I don't think this will work too well with commercial radio stations. And HFS is *far* from commercial. BTW, did she ever release "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as a single, or was it just on the "Crucify" ep? I do remember HFS playing that a lot when it first came out. Stephanie Tori805@aol.com wrote: > I have an idea for the campaign. Everyone on the list agrees to call up all > the local college - type radio stations and request Space Dog like, 3 times a > week for a month. That way, they'll play it a bit, they'll see that it's > risen in popularity (yes, that was sarcasm), and perhaps some commercial > radiostations will hear it and start playing it too. whadda ya think? > -Sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:08:24 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Technical Difficulties me too... how bizarre! oh well, at least i am not the only one! with faerie dust and best wishes, ~*~heidi~*~ lilchibi@flash.net wrote: > > Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! > I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: > > Mike's sorry > and the Tori Rape thing > and the Kate Bush thing > > Weird... - -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:29:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Brian the Lion Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > --MoIIy I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... but don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as God.... I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her sentiments totally become a bad person.... for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to live.... though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here - ---------------------- Brian the Lion bos197@soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:22:03 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! After having visited my favorite radio station, WHFS, (who are also good friends with Tori, since she's from this area, and they supported her early on, as stated already by Richard Handal), I learned that stations mainly have just the cd singles, not entire albums, in their collections. I brought the morning crew doughnuts and asked them to play my favorite, Doughnut Song, but they didn't have the whole cd, just the singles that were released. So, I don't think this will work too well with commercial radio stations. And HFS is *far* from commercial. BTW, did she ever release "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as a single, or was it just on the "Crucify" ep? I do remember HFS playing that a lot when it first came out. Stephanie Tori805@aol.com wrote: > I have an idea for the campaign. Everyone on the list agrees to call up all > the local college - type radio stations and request Space Dog like, 3 times a > week for a month. That way, they'll play it a bit, they'll see that it's > risen in popularity (yes, that was sarcasm), and perhaps some commercial > radiostations will hear it and start playing it too. whadda ya think? > -Sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:08:24 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Technical Difficulties me too... how bizarre! oh well, at least i am not the only one! with faerie dust and best wishes, ~*~heidi~*~ lilchibi@flash.net wrote: > > Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! > I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: > > Mike's sorry > and the Tori Rape thing > and the Kate Bush thing > > Weird... - -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:22:03 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! After having visited my favorite radio station, WHFS, (who are also good friends with Tori, since she's from this area, and they supported her early on, as stated already by Richard Handal), I learned that stations mainly have just the cd singles, not entire albums, in their collections. I brought the morning crew doughnuts and asked them to play my favorite, Doughnut Song, but they didn't have the whole cd, just the singles that were released. So, I don't think this will work too well with commercial radio stations. And HFS is *far* from commercial. BTW, did she ever release "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as a single, or was it just on the "Crucify" ep? I do remember HFS playing that a lot when it first came out. Stephanie Tori805@aol.com wrote: > I have an idea for the campaign. Everyone on the list agrees to call up all > the local college - type radio stations and request Space Dog like, 3 times a > week for a month. That way, they'll play it a bit, they'll see that it's > risen in popularity (yes, that was sarcasm), and perhaps some commercial > radiostations will hear it and start playing it too. whadda ya think? > -Sue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:08:24 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Technical Difficulties me too... how bizarre! oh well, at least i am not the only one! with faerie dust and best wishes, ~*~heidi~*~ lilchibi@flash.net wrote: > > Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! > I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: > > Mike's sorry > and the Tori Rape thing > and the Kate Bush thing > > Weird... - -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:23 EST From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Argh!! Why the hell are all these postings being repeatedly sent to people 2, 3, 4 times??? Peeved, Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:18 -0600 From: lilchibi@flash.net Subject: Technical Difficulties Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: Mike's sorry and the Tori Rape thing and the Kate Bush thing Weird... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:19:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Liz Subject: Re: sTORIed Rape:PART TWO I think this is the third time Ive gotten this same message, along with quite a few of the previous ones. Anyone else having this problem? On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Brian the Lion wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:16:38 EST MoIIy@aol.com wrote: > > > I feel the same way about the Rape thing. Tori was raped. There's no doubt > > about it. And if you doubt her for one second, you are not a devoted Tori fan. > > I know she would be hurt to read that one of her "fans" doesn't believe her. > > I'm sorry, but don't call yourself a fan if you don't believe every last word > > that woman says. Why would she ever lie about something as serious as rape? > > Answer me that one. That's all I have to say. > > > > --MoIIy > > I think a deviding line needs to be drawn... > > I am 100% that Tori is telling the truth.... > > but > > don't we need to distinguish 100% between believing that tori > is telling the truth in everything she says(which is how is > how i see it) and simply accepting everything she says as > God.... > > I don't think she'd feel to happy if she felt like she was > dictating to us all how to live, 'cos she's put up such a > fight against people who blindly accept words as the truth.. > > Yes, i too believe she was raped-i am not questioning that > for a fact, but does anyman who does not agree with her > sentiments totally become a bad person.... > > for a woman who has great belief in self-determination, i > don't think she'd like to feel she was telling us all how to > live.... > > though saying that, if the average jo took a leaf out of her > book thing s might be one hell of a lot nicer round here > ---------------------- > Brian the Lion > bos197@soton.ac.uk > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:22:03 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: Spacedog Now Campaign!!! After having visited my favorite radio station, WHFS, (who are also good friends with Tori, since she's from this area, and they supported her early on, as stated already by Richard Handal), I learned that stations mainly have just the cd singles, not entire albums, in their collections. I brought the morning crew doughnuts and asked them to play my favorite, Doughnut Song, but they didn't have the whole cd, just the singles that were released. So, I don't think this will work too well with commercial radio stations. And HFS is *far* from commercial. BTW, did she ever release "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as a single, or was it just on the "Crucify" ep? I do remember HFS playing that a lot when it first came out. Stephanie Tori805@aol.com wrote: > I have an idea for the campaign. Everyone on the list agrees to call up all > the local college - type radio stations and request Space Dog like, 3 times a > week for a month. That way, they'll play it a bit, they'll see that it's > risen in popularity (yes, that was sarcasm), and perhaps some commercial > radiostations will hear it and start playing it too. whadda ya think? > -Sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:32:49 EST From: JoniDoe24@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush i havent heard any of her songs either... the first time i heard her name was when my friends step-moms name was that, and someone thought it was funny and i didnt know why (who? kate bush?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:44:11 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Space Dog and Technical Difficulties Someone {ack, deleted the message {all 88 copies of it ;) } mentioned that their local radio station doesn't have many albums, just mostly singles. I know that at least the college radio station I worked for had -many- more albums than singles. When a new album was released, we got an advanced copy or three of it {look in the Collectibles book for all the promos of the full {or mostly full} albums}. I don't see why a commercial radio station wouldn't get the full album while a college station would -- but then, I also don't pretend to understand how record labels work anyway. ;) Someone else asked if Tori's cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit was released in its own right, and the answer is no. It's only available {legitimately} as a b-side. And while I'm here, about the current technical difficulties: In the future, if you're seeing strange things on the list, try to email someone else that you know is on the list and see if they're having the same problem. If they are, email our oh-so-nifty list owners {or "good cop" and "bad cop", if you prefer ;) } and let them know thta there's a problem. :) That way, if they happen to skip reading the list that day, they're still aware that there's a problem and can {hopefully} get it resolved. And please -please- don't post here saying "I'm glad it's not just me!". You're clutterinig up a lot of mailboxes with multiple copies of what amounts to a "me-too" message, and it doesn't help clear up the problem. Plus, if folks are on the digest version of the list and the digest is taken up with multiple copies of each message, they're not stuck reading multiple "hey, me too!" messages all in a row. :) This public service announcement was brought to you by the number10 and the horrific class known only as "computer networks", which I am currently skipping. ;0 /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:08:24 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Technical Difficulties me too... how bizarre! oh well, at least i am not the only one! with faerie dust and best wishes, ~*~heidi~*~ lilchibi@flash.net wrote: > > Liz! Yeah I was just about to comment on that! > I have gotten a zillion of the exact same messages for stuff like: > > Mike's sorry > and the Tori Rape thing > and the Kate Bush thing > > Weird... - -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jennifer Frediani Subject: duplicate messages I think I've received the same messages like 8 times already (at least). I'm glad to see it's not just me. -- The Mermaid and Alyxa! 21 Sept 97 velvet@khazad-dum.ccsi.com http://rs.cname.com/~lestat/velvet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:36:08 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Re: tori married? Hi, Just some speculation here, but last year around October or November I heard something about Tori getting married. A guy at one of the record shows mentioned that she was marrying her boyfriend of many years. Now, unless she's been seeing someone since Eric...but I dont see since '94, '95, or '96 as being many years ago. Anyways, my .02 Jenn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #55 ************************************