From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #46 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, February 6 1998 Volume 03 : Number 046 Today's Subjects: ----------------- New album of Tori [Jesz ] Re: Honey we're recovering Christians.... [Stephen.Allen@psygnosis.co.uk] Australian Tori Single Update ["Planet Tori" ] T-shirts [bos197@soton.ac.uk] Smells like Teen Spirit [Micah McCrary ] [none] [Rachel ] Re: Smells like Teen Spirit [BF & VA Maier ] Christianity/Honey...Recovering [Space Dog ] Re: New album of Tori [Ken Tough ] Re: Smells like Teen Spirit [Nadyne Mielke ] etienne "knight" [MM62@aol.com] UK Talula [Jon & Janet Haverman ] GE, Recovering Christians, etc. [Cindergirl@aol.com] mike gray's tori trade / toriphile registration [ChinaDust@aol.com] recovering Christians, on tee shirts and otherwise [Miss Modular ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:47:59 GMT From: Jesz Subject: New album of Tori I have heard that Tori would publish a new album which can be disponible in the late april, but i forgot the title .... Jesz << When I was younger, so much younger than today, I never need anybody's help in any way, Now I change my mind , i open up the door ... >> The Beatles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:29:28 +0000 From: Stephen.Allen@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: Re: Honey we're recovering Christians.... I had a T-shirt that said 'YOU FAT BASTARD' in very large, bright orange letters. I got arrested for wearing this T- Shirt. Would I get banged up for wearing the other T-shirt. Ste. In a message dated 98-02-04 21:09:04 EST, adamwm@adnc.com writes: << And why do we choose to wear these religious statements around Mom and Dad when we know it upsets them? Is it for attention, or just plain defiance?>> i don't have the specific shirt, but i've done that sort of thing. it used to be a bit of attention and defiance like you said, but then when i really looked at it, it's strange, i felt like i was making up for being gutless. i mean, i had always denied myself before because even if i stood up for myself, i would be stomped down even harder, so i learned to tune myself out. and now, i'm sort of doing a counter-phobic thing...i'm just lashing out as hard as i can for myself because i'm afraid that if i don't i'll lose myself. ah, you've fallen asleep wondering why the hell this is not ending. eileen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:04:11 +0000 From: "Planet Tori" Subject: Australian Tori Single Update Dear Aussie EWF This is for all Australians on this News list ... It is *not* relevant to Toriphiles from the USA or otherwise. Following the post on our site regarding the info about a possible March release in Australia (therefore before the USA and UK) for Tori's new single, please read below. We finally got through to David Catteral at Warner Music (Sydney) - A hard man to track down by phone but he graciously shared the following information. P.T : David, could you confirm a few news stories from your site for us? D.C : Of course. P.T : Your site is reporting that Tori's first single and video is scheduled for an early March release, is that correct? Can you confirm this? D.C : NO I can't. It is very possible that this date will move. They (the releases dates) always move, so I cant be sure. She (Tori) has an Album out due May but that's all we know at the moment, and that (Album) date could change as well. P.T : Is the Warner site updated from Sydney or are your sources from overseas? D.C : Oh, it's run from here, not by me of course. East West in the United Kingdom told us of the Tori Amos news about the single and album release, but that's all I can help you with at the moment. P.T : Thanks very much for your help David. D.C : Ok then. Pleasure. Planet Tori also received, after posting to the ToriNews Group, an email from a Official Source saying that, "...Typically singles have been released in Europe first and then in the US and Australia. I've no idea whether this is a departure or even reliable at this point. It would be very unusual for Australia to release the first single because usually East West in the UK doesn't send them the master until they're done with it..." Terry would like to sincerely thank Warner Music and our other source (that can't be named at the moment because we have not asked for permission to do so - sorry) for their help and information so in turn, we i.e. Planet Tori can be a source of TRUSTED Tori Amos News for fellow Australian Ears With Feet. Unless any other Australian Tori News breaks, see you in March / April for the Second year of Planet Tori Radio :) RDT Maria and Terry PLANET TORI (On Holidays) http://www.geocities.com/~planettori - --------------------------------------------- She's a Beauty Queen, my sweet bean bag in the street Tori Amos... - ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:59:04 GMT From: bos197@soton.ac.uk Subject: T-shirts My personal favourite has to be one of the numerous Calvin Klein logo rip-offs: gothiC as fucK! Brian the Lion ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Micah McCrary Subject: Smells like Teen Spirit Hi guys, I am very new to this mailing list, and Tori for that matter. This girl that I really adore insisted that I purchase Little Earthquakes, so I did. From that moment, that is almost all I listen to is Tori. Last night I found a copy of her Crucify CD (single?) and was curious to the song Spells like Teen Spirit. I know Nirvana did this song as well, I am just wondering if Tori redid it, or was it hers originally? Thanks - -- Micah McCrary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:52:26 -0600 From: Rachel Subject: [none] I have a question about Kate bush...and its not really whether or not she sounds like tori or anything, so no one run in fear :) I know some of you like kate out there and I'm wondering if you can help me out... i was listening to the radio (yes the radio) yesterday and I heard a song by kate but didn't catch the title... it was upbeat... (the only song I've ever heard by Kate is "wuthering heights") and her voice didn't sound high and raucous as it did in wuthering heights (I'm sorry! Maybe it was a bad recording or something, but it did).... does anyone have an idea what album this may have been on? I'm sorry I'm so sketchy, any help would be appreciated Thanks Rachel PS sorry for the non tori material :) ************************************** Maybe I aint used to maybes smashing in a cold room... -Tori Amos http://batwoman.dyn.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 00:48:59 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: Re: Smells like Teen Spirit It was originally Nirvana's... Tori covered it. She sang it along with American Pie as a tribute to Cobain when she was touring and heard of his death, I understand. ~*~Heidi~*~ Micah McCrary wrote: >=20 > Hi guys, I am very new to this mailing list, and Tori for that matter. > This girl that I really adore insisted that I purchase Little > Earthquakes, so I did. From that moment, that is almost all I listen to= is > Tori. Last night I found a copy of her Crucify CD (single?) and was > curious to the song Spells like Teen Spirit. I know Nirvana did this s= ong > as well, I am just wondering if Tori redid it, or was it hers originall= y? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > -- > Micah McCrary - --=20 =D0=CF=11=E0=A1=B1=1A=E1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:12:01 -0500 From: Space Dog Subject: Christianity/Honey...Recovering You know, I was born and raised Catholic by my parents who did not abide or live like good Catholics, so instead I just inherited all their guilt. I felt completely confused, lost, unwanted, and cold in the Catholic religion (no offense to you Catholics out there--whatever works for you, didn't for me). But now I am I Christian and I feel there is a HUGE difference. I feel creative, free, and free from guilt. I think a lot of Christians hold onto that guilt, but the Bible really says that we shouldn't hold our sins against ourselves because God doesn't, so this is why I feel so open and liberated as a Christian. I feel like I am free to experiment in my life with my boundries (as long as I'm not overboard or hurting anyone else or jeopardizing my faith) but that I still have that safety net underneith me which is my belief in God. Maybe someone else can relate, but I consider myself a Recovering Catholic and a born-again Christian. - --JOE ************************************************************** Alanis Underground www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 Listen, My Children www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 Old Dads Club www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" --Tori Amos "Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for believers in live, love, faith, and purity." --I Timothy 4:12 ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:03:31 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: New album of Tori Jesz wrote: >I have heard that Tori would publish a new album which >can be disponible in the late april, but i forgot >the title .... Ladies and gentlemen... here's the only person on the entire internet who knows the title of Tori's new album... And he's forgotton! Arrrggggg! - -- Ken Tough Cornwall, UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Smells like Teen Spirit On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Micah McCrary wrote: > Hi guys, I am very new to this mailing list, and Tori for that matter. > This girl that I really adore insisted that I purchase Little > Earthquakes, so I did. From that moment, that is almost all I listen to is > Tori. Last night I found a copy of her Crucify CD (single?) and was > curious to the song Spells like Teen Spirit. I know Nirvana did this song > as well, I am just wondering if Tori redid it, or was it hers originally? Smells Like Teen Spirit is a Nirvana song. Tori covered it. If you look at the back of the Crucify single, you'll see that it has the names of the songwriters attached, and none of them is Tori. :) /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:10:22 EST From: MM62@aol.com Subject: etienne "knight" In a message dated 2/4/98 10:57:31 PM, you wrote: <<"Maybe you're the KNIGHT, who saved my life", maybe I'm the only one with the mistake, >> i always thought thats what it was, KNIGHT makes much more sense than night i think when the context of the song is considered... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:35:52 +0000 From: Jon & Janet Haverman Subject: UK Talula I have an extra for sale: "Talula" UK cd single 1996 w/1)Talula(the tornado $6 mix)3:43 2)Frog On My Toe 3:43 3)Sister Named Desire 5:29 4)Alamo 5:11 A8512CD2 I also have these nice items for sale: MODERN ROCK LIVE sampler: exclusive LIVE performances $7 Indigo Girls - Power of Two Sam Phillips-Circle of Fire Sarah McLachlan-Ice Cream Victoria Williams-You R Loved The Posies-Coming RIght Along Sarah McLachlan-The Path of Thorns cd single $4 Canadian W2-3056 1) The Path of Thorns(Terms)-radio edit 2)The Path of Thorns (Terms)-album version 3)Shelter-violin mix Amy Grant's Christmas program from this years show. (free with all three purchased) or $4) shipping extra, but exact amount. No overcharges on postage, Customers choice of service. Some Kate Bush items available as well. Inquire within thanks, jon (cleveland, ohio) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:52:19 EST From: Cindergirl@aol.com Subject: GE, Recovering Christians, etc. Well, I saw the long awaited Great Expectations last night with some friends, and i hope you will all excuse me for i've got to get this off my chest. IT SUCKED! sorry. now, there were some good parts. the beginning where Finn is played is beautiful, and of course the rest of the soundtrack was absolutely essential. but i think that the whole story was about a bitchy, snobby, fickle girl who used this poor guy who was so pitiful he was obsessed with some chick that treated him like crap all his life. he was a good artist though. anyway, that's all i have to say about that. Now to add my voice to the dissonance of the christianity thread: I, being a Christian, have never rebelled against my parents(about religion). but i would like to respond to the comment about how Christianity has hurt people. I don't think it's Christianity itself, but the people down here who set the guidlines for it. I have this belief in God and Jesus, etc. but I think that the churches screwed a lot of this up. enough about that now. 2 more non-tori related questions (reeeealy sorry:) has anyone else heard what a masterpiece pearl jam's new album is? and does anyone know when the new Ani DiFranco will hit the shelves? thanks for your time:) tory ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:44:28 EST From: ChinaDust@aol.com Subject: mike gray's tori trade / toriphile registration i read the post about the toriphile registration, but before i could save it and go, an error occurred in my program and my aol was shut down. does anyone still have the url for that page? mike gray? i don't think you're getting any of the emails i sent to your personal account. You're probably kind of P.O. and thinking i'm screwing this on purpose, but it's not me! my last 2 or 3 messages were just returned to me today. do you have another address? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: Miss Modular Subject: recovering Christians, on tee shirts and otherwise >speaking of that recovering christians t-shirt, does anyone know where to >get that? Try Burning Airlines in NYC. I don't know the address off the top of my head, but I know they run ads in the back of SPIN. I'll post ordering information when I find it. ObChristianity/Beliefs (I say this knowing I'll be the straw that broke the camel's back, and that our fair listowners will jump down my throat for posting off-topic as soon as I send this in): My belief is that, as humans, we're all searching for truth in some form or another. Some look for it in spirituality or religion, some in science, some in music (like Tori), some in drugs, etc. I've come to respect and accept others' search for the truth, even if it's something I disagree with, as long as they're doing it in a way that doesn't interfere with my own or others' quests. I lose my respect when those looking for the reason why we're here in Christianity start interfering with what I'm or you're trying to do, thinking that their way is the best. The person who anointed their kids' room is a good example. Just to cross two verboten threads, there is an exception to every rule; I'd hate to see anyone believe this and become addicted to drugs without any interference, for example. Anyway, that's it. My 2c. Chelsea, the artist formerly known as Traumachik@aol.com (reset your kill-files NOW!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 19:38:59 PST From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: [none] >I'm interested to know who else's parents objected to the >"Recovering Christian" T-shirts. I know mine did. And why do we >choose to wear these religious statements around Mom and Dad >when we know it upsets them? Is it for attention, or just plain >defiance? > >Adam Last summer, my friend attended a Tori Amos concert where I lived then. I was out of town for a couple months, so I didn't know about it. I was very sorry that I had missed it, but my awesome friend (whom I love dearly to this day) actually BOUGHT me a tshirt, without me asking or anything. Just thought enough of me and bought me one. Even when she hadn't seen me in a long time. Anyways, she's amazing. Back to the story... The sad ending was that I ended up giving the shirt back to her, because my parents would have strongly objected. I described it to my parents, but said it was a different artist than Tori, so they wouldn't steal my Tori CD's. :) Ah well... Really, though, it has nothing to do with defiance. At least not for me. Think about it... Tori's views and that of her father's don't exactly match up, do they? And she goes about singing her views all over the world. I really don't think it has to do with defiance. At least not in some cases. I wear things like that because I refuse to defy MYSELF, and my own feelings and beliefs. I can't help that they may be different from someone else's, even that of my parents. I really respect their point of view, but mine and theirs don't always exactly coincide. They had a hard time with our differences of opinion when I was younger, as did I, but now we are both able to appreciate each other a lot more, and give each other the respect that we all as individuals deserve. Just my $.02! :) ==Peace== rAy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #46 ************************************