From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #28 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, January 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: a "best of" compilation of non-lp tracks [Quinn024 ] Re: Tori feature in Blender CD-ROM magazine... [Kaj-Michael Lang ] Re: Icicle [FlutterVxn ] about the problem downloading Anouk [Dennis Snelders ] Re: Tori doing work with other artists. [MsSakamoto ] Re: Non-Tori-ish [MsSakamoto ] Re: 'Lovin' Whiskey' a new tori song? decide for yourself! [Ken Tough ] RE: Not the Red Baron/Dutch Pilots [Anki ] Mozart/Tori ["Capriccio 191" ] Tori Stories.. ["Mike Gray" ] Lovin' Whiskey is not a Tori song !!! ["B.J.van.der.Linden" ] New Tori Song; 2 [Marcel F G Rijs ] God UK CD Single found... ["Mike Gray" ] Re: "Lovin' Whiskey" a new tori song? [Marcel F G Rijs ] Re: Muhammad my friend [Jessie L Ksanznak ] Re: Not the Red Baron/Dutch Pilots [SmerfCrazy ] God Single ["Geoff Moore" ] Siren & The Great Expectations Soundtrack [JupiterCMS ] petty correction [rain ] Re: Muhammad my friend [Alicia ] The song in the GE commercial... [Traumachik@aol.com] Re: a "best of" compilation of non-lp tracks ["John M." ] Re: God Single [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: New Tori Song; 2 [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: covers [Mike Richman ] Extra GE promo soundtrack [Traumachik@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:36:19 EST From: Quinn024 Subject: Re: a "best of" compilation of non-lp tracks Hey- It's funny that this should come up now, I just finished creating a three 90 minute tape collection of Tori Bee Sides and such. I called it, Stung by Tori; a Bee Sides Collection. I made the set for a friend of mine but if anybody is interested in a track listing or wants a copy of the set let me know and maybe we can work it out... Okay, just thought I'd mention it. Peace, NeilQuinn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:09:36 +0200 (EET) From: Kaj-Michael Lang Subject: Re: Tori feature in Blender CD-ROM magazine... On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Josh Kostka wrote: > even know about Tori so I guess I had just ignored it. Anyway, inside > there's small screen shots and one's a picture of Tori and it says Tori > Kicking It Live and there's a button that says "click to play video". You can find the video clips from that CD on my Tori page. - -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Kaj-Michael Lang E-Mail: milang@tal.org Kaskentie 5 C9 WWW: http://www.tal.org 20720 Turku FTP: ftp://ftp.tal.org FINLAND GSM: +358-(0)40-5271058 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:31:42 GMT0BST From: Ruthless Subject: eating men like air Hi everybody, Jen the quote you cited is Sylvia Plath. It's in the Ariel collection. Cheers, Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 05:29:39 EST From: FlutterVxn Subject: Re: Icicle its morning time and i cant hear my brain yet so...dont shoot me or anything..but if anyone has boulder or maybe its another *Import* it begins with an actual hymn then has onward christian soldiers and then continues into icicle....seeing as how im not too bible reading i dont know the name....i'll check to see if im not dumb later... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:33:48 +0100 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: about the problem downloading Anouk Hi: Some people have had probs downloading the file of Anouk singing 'Lovin' Whiskey', but I fixed the problem. Everyone should be able to download it. dennis - -- This message was sent by Dennis Snelders - ---------------------------------------- Tori Amos page 'Little Amsterdam' http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html - ---------------------------------------- E-mail: dsnelders@geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:34:48 GMT From: Alicia Subject: the GE soundtrack (again) Hi, I know this might be an old topic for some of you, but, hey, not to me. I'd like to know if anybody has any idea when the GE soundtrack will be released in S. America? I've asked and asked in music stores, and nobody knows what I'm talking about.=20 Thanks, Alicia=20 "I felt a painful stitch throughout my body that I knew stitched my tears to my soul. No longer would my weeping be separate from what I knew" -Tashi, in "Possessing the Secret of Joy"=20 by Alice Walker "How could I be so immature =20 To think that he could replace =09 The missing elements in me" =20 -Bj=F6rk =09 Smile - Its The Second Best Thing you can do with Your Lips.=20 =09 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:31:24 EST From: MsSakamoto Subject: Re: Tori doing work with other artists. In a message dated 98-01-18 23:32:33 EST, Traumachik@aol.com writes: > It's a very pure, dark red shade of MAC lipstick, often seen on the drag > queens at Lucky Cheng's. Oh! You know Lucky Cheng's? Kisses, Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:23:03 EST From: MsSakamoto Subject: Re: Non-Tori-ish In a message dated 98-01-18 12:47:56 EST, zellarre@pilot.msu.edu writes: > I've been reading all of the bitter, sarcastic remarks about Puff Daddy and > I just came up with a couple of things to say. I'm not a big fan of the guy > or rap music in general but, over my Winter Break, I caught a few of his > videos and forced myself to watch them all the way through. I discovered > that the man isn't quite so terrible as I presumed him to be. In fact, he > has quite a sense of humor and he doesn't take himself seriously. Which, a > lot of the artists that were mentioned do. A sad commentary. I honestly > don't think that he thinks he's an upcoming monopoly on the music industry. > He's just doing what he loves. That shouldn't be criticized. And we don't > know if he was cashing in on Notorious BIG's death so it's silly to presume > so. I dare you to watch one of his videos . . . ALL THE WAY THROUGH. You > might even laugh. He's a good guy. ::pokes her head up from lurking level:: Hmm. I agree. He does have a sense of humour, and his music isn't that bad. Flame me if you want, but I do like some of his songs. Especially the rock mix of "The Benjamins". ::dives back from where she came from:: Kisses, Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:41:08 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: 'Lovin' Whiskey' a new tori song? decide for yourself! Dennis Snelders wrote: >I just watched (and taped) Anouk singing ‘Lovin’ Whiskey’ but I’m not >sure if it’s one of Tori’s songs. Anouk didn’t get to say a single word >so she didn’t mention Tori in the program. On the other hand, both the >local newspaper and the TV guide say that ‘Lovin’ Whiksey’ is one of "Lovin Whiskey" is actually a song written and performed by the acoustic blues artist "Rory Block", on her album "I've got a Rock in My Sock". She sounds like an interesting artist though. Anouk's version sounded surprisingly similar to Rory Block's, a very Joan Armatrading feel. Good stuff... thank's for the pointer. I may listen more. Lots of refs for Rory Block on all the web engines. - -- Ken Tough "Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine." ken@objectech.co.uk Cornwall, United Kingdom -- Patti Smith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:00:49 +0100 From: Anki Subject: Muhammad my friend "Muhammad my friend it's time to tell the world we both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem..." I don't know if it's my wild imagination or... But does anyone else think that Tori indicates that Mary (the mother of = Christ) slept with or was raped by Muhammad? And that "it's time to tell = the world" means that the whole Christianity is based on a lie. Only = beacause it was too dangerous for Mary in that time being pregnant = without being married. So she had to lie to save her skin? What do you = all think?=20 I hope that this mail doesn't offend anyone.=20 Have a nice day!!! Anki (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't so good. English isn't my native = language.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:10:31 +0100 From: Anki Subject: RE: Not the Red Baron/Dutch Pilots Space Dog wrote: OK, I'm sorry my posts are so brief (or maybe you're greatful?) but, whichever the case, I've got another puzzle for you. Oompah, loompah, doompidy doo, who the hell are the Dutch Pilots and what about the = little monologue she does in the beginning of the song? Now, I understand the meaning of the song about not accepting any of these men, how she find's fault in each one, or maybe about "anonomous" men in her life. But I = must know if anyone knows about these pilots or about the story behind it? = Oh, yeah, while you're at it, jumbalaya, what's her obcession? Can anyone = help to shed some light? I'm pretty clueless when it comes to these quirks = of hers. I don't know much, the only thing I know is that the Red Baron was a = pilot (or an airplane!) during the first worldwar (or was it the = second!!!). Well as you see, I don't know much! But I think it is an = interesting question, so maybe anyone else knows anything? /Anki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:31:56 PST From: "Capriccio 191" Subject: Mozart/Tori Just a brief coment here... I actually think that if reincarnation exists then Tori could be Mozart. From what I've studied of him he seemed to be a very quirky guy who was an absolutely brilliant musician. He could write entire symphonies in his head. He didn't have to sit down and fiddle around with the notes. He heard them in his head and just knew them. >Actually, people like Mozart and Bach tend to be over-rated, IMO. >Why pick on certain people and say they're the greatest, and lord it >over others by saying, "well, s/he's no Mozart". ;-) I think Mozart was absolutely briliant. $Jenn (Formerly Little Earthquakes and Dagny T) reply to ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:59:54 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Tori Stories.. Hi! Does anyone know where I might be able to order a copy of the "Tori Stories" bootleg online who might ship to the UK? If not, is there anyone in the UK willing to do copies? I have a couple of bootlegs/B-sides that you might be interested in. Cheers Mike Mike Gray - mike@whitley56.force9.co.uk http://www.whitley56.force9.co.uk/index.html ^ Now including Celine Dion, Peach, Gloria Estefan, Erasure, Tori Amos... NP: "Mulder And Scully" by Catatonia ICQ : 6200976 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:19:26 -0500 From: "B.J.van.der.Linden" Subject: Lovin' Whiskey is not a Tori song !!! Ok guys; you might be to young to know but "Lovin' Whiskey" is a Rory Block song from about 1992. Rory is an American blues/folk/country singer. The Dutch press just messes things up, like they often do.-------------------------- Bastiaan > >Hi! >I just read in the newspaper that Dutch singer Anouk will perform one of >Tori=92s songs called =91LOVIN=92 WHISKEY=92 tonight on the programme =91= >t dak d=92r >Af on dutch television! >So =91lovin=92 whiskey=92 is probably a new tori song!!!!! But How could = >Anouk >possibly know that song? I don=92t know, obviously either the newspaper >was wrong or this is an incredible mystery! Anyway, I can=92t wait until >tonight! I=92ll tape the show and will put a real audio file of the song >Anouk will sing on my Tori page Little Amsterdam, where you will read >all info about it! >(aaah, I feel the adrenaline pumpin=92 through my veins!!) =20 >Tonight, right after the show I will post again to tell you what has >happened!! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: Renee Canada Subject: Tori Covers I was really trying to think about why I personally like Tori covers so much as well. I have to agree that the original spin Tori puts on all her covers is really what i think makes the song more than just a cover. To me, they sound like Tori originals. Yet they also have the benefit of sounding vaguely familiar. On the one hand, "smells like teen spirit" tended to get overplay so it was refreshing to my ears to hear tori play a tribute that had a unique twist of the tori hands. and with songs like "angie" which i wouldn't normally listen to, I was overwhelmed by the beauty of the song. For me, at any rate, Tori takes songs I normally couldn't hear the potential in, and she translates it to a language, if you will, that I can understand and relate to. I think *that* is where Tori's power as a musician, singer and songwriter lies. She takes things I normally couldn't put into words, and she plays with those words creating a complex layer of music, words, and emotions, whether she's playing a cover or an original. She truly *is* my biggest influence as a songwriter myself. Even though my style is uniquely my own, I still credit her for the inspiration to be brave and allow myself begin my own journey into the whirlwind of emotion and song. Renee Canada laverick@leland.stanford.edu ********* "What gets me up in the morning? The thought of another day, fresh with possibilities. A new day to love, to create something beautiful-a friendship, a song, a story. Sometimes it's just the pleasure of enjoying the wonders of life."-RLC, 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:02:09 +0100 From: Marcel F G Rijs Subject: New Tori Song; 2 Hi, On the subject of "new Tori songs": I saw a bootleg during a record fair this past weekend, containing "The concert for RAINN" and one bonus track. It was called "Abbey Road" (just like the Beatles album and the EMI studio) and was announced as a "new studio track from Tori, december 1996". I didn't buy this CD, but maybe someone has got it? Please let me know if I should've bought it or not. It sounds like a hoax, but one never knows. Kind regards, Marcel Rijs mfgr@bart.nl http://www.bart.nl/~mfgr GO FOR IT! The Ultimate Kim Wilde Internet Experience http://kimwilde.go4it.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:50:16 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: God UK CD Single found... Hi! If anyone in the UK needs a copy of the God UK CD Single, they should get in touch, as I think I might be able to pick one up this Saturday. Track listing:- 1.God 2.The Dharma Kaya Mix 3.The Rainforest Resort Mix 4.The Thinking Mix 2 Mike Mike Gray - mike@whitley56.force9.co.uk http://www.whitley56.force9.co.uk/index.html ^ Now including Celine Dion, Peach, Gloria Estefan, Erasure, Tori Amos... NP: "Mulder And Scully" by Catatonia ICQ : 6200976 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:00:03 +0100 From: Marcel F G Rijs Subject: Re: "Lovin' Whiskey" a new tori song? Hi, Dennis Snelders wrote: >Hi! >I just read in the newspaper that Dutch singer Anouk will perform one of >Tori=92s songs called =91LOVIN=92 WHISKEY=92 tonight on the programme =91= >t dak d=92r >Af on dutch television! >So =91lovin=92 whiskey=92 is probably a new tori song!!!!! But How could = >Anouk >possibly know that song? I don=92t know, obviously either the newspaper >was wrong or this is an incredible mystery! Anyway, I can=92t wait until >tonight! I=92ll tape the show and will put a real audio file of the song >Anouk will sing on my Tori page Little Amsterdam, where you will read >all info about it! >(aaah, I feel the adrenaline pumpin=92 through my veins!!) =20 >Tonight, right after the show I will post again to tell you what has >happened!! >Dennis This is probably a mixup by the newspaper you read. "Lovin' whiskey" was a song, released somewhere in 1988 by American singer/songwriter Rory Block. Nice song, but not really comparable to the work of Tori Amos. Kind regards, Marcel Rijs "Conan the Librarian" Den Haag, The Netherlands, EUROPE Web: http://users.bart.nl/~mfgr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:07:59 -0500 (EST) From: Jessie L Ksanznak Subject: Re: Muhammad my friend On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Anki wrote: > I don't know if it's my wild imagination or... > But does anyone else think that Tori indicates that Mary (the mother of Christ) slept with or was raped by Muhammad? And that "it's time to tell the world" means that the whole Christianity is based on a lie. Only beacause it was too dangerous for Mary in that time being pregnant without being married. So she had to lie to save her skin? What do you all think? Well, first let me opint out the Muhammad and Jesus and Mary lived hundreds of years apart. So technically Mary could not have slept with or been raped by Muhammad. I think that Tori was implying that Muhammad may have known "her truth" of the situation. (She believes that God is not solely a male figure). But I never even really thought that she meant it to mean the he specifically knew. To me she just uses this song to illustrate some of the strictness of Christianity and puts her spin on it. (Teach me how to love my brothers who don't know the lord). Just my 2 cents. Jessie Smile!!!!! :) http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/8616/ "Love is when two people are together-their hearts smile And when they're apart-a thought will do the same And when they embrace-their hearts just grin." - -Brian Oehlert "Love" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:48:21 EST From: SmerfCrazy Subject: Re: Not the Red Baron/Dutch Pilots > Oompah, loompah, > doompidy doo, who the hell are the Dutch Pilots and what about the little > monologue she does in the beginning of the song? from what i know, the "pilots" talking in the backround were like her technicians or something. what had happened was she had her headphones on and it had crossed lines or something. she ended up listening to the converstation between two people talking in Dutch or "technincal terms" or something or other (apparently, i kind of forgot the details of this story.. sorry :) anyways, they asked her if they should continue talking and she said "yes" and then they asked if they should speak in English, and she replied, "no, Dutch." and then she was inspired to write the song. apparently Red Baron was one of those one-take songs like Bells For Her, etc. does that clear anything up? hope so. and if i have any wron information please correct me, i know im kinda dim..... :) circles and circles john~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:17:56 -0500 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: God Single Hey, Does anyone know how commmon the God U.S. single is? It's the one with two non vocal songs and Home on the Range. While I'm on that topic, are any of her singles rare? I've seen Cornflake Girl, CALS, Talula, and others all for sale, about $5. All U.S., too. Any help would be appreciated... Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:27:24 EST From: JupiterCMS Subject: Siren & The Great Expectations Soundtrack Hey everybodie..i dont mean to sound dumb..but is the song Siren by Tori Amos the song that is on the commercials for Great Expectations ??? I was just wondering...also its pretty dumb that Tori contributed to this soundtrack & she is not even mentioned in the music credits !!!! aaaaahhhh! ok well peace out ~ Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:19:03 -0800 From: rain Subject: mozart? tori? well ive taken a couple of classes on classical composers,ect. and from what ive read mozart was musically brilliant but lifewise we was a bit of an irresponsible idiot, and if i remember correctly not very many people liked him once he grew up....correct me if im wrong...i mean there have been plenty of talented pianists and other musicians and i wouldnt really pin tori as being the reincarnation of this one. maybe shes the reincarnated mary magdalene *l*....i think shes probably bits of a lot of people. i think most of us are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:22:05 -0800 From: rain Subject: petty correction jessie...thats "teach me how to love my brothers who dont know the *law*" not the lord..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:20:34 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: Muhammad my friend Jessie wrote: To me she just uses this song to illustrate some of the strictness >of Christianity and puts her spin on it. (Teach me how to love my >brothers who don't know the lord). Just my 2 cents. Wasn't it "who don't know the law"? Because to muslims, the Koran is the= law.=20 Anyways, take care, Alicia "I felt a painful stitch throughout my body that I knew stitched my tears to my soul. No longer would my weeping be separate from what I knew" -Tashi, in "Possessing the Secret of Joy"=20 by Alice Walker "How could I be so immature =20 To think that he could replace =09 The missing elements in me" =20 -Bj=F6rk =09 Smile - Its The Second Best Thing you can do with Your Lips.=20 =09 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:13:34 -0500 (EST) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: The song in the GE commercial... ...is either "Like A Friend" by Pulp or Mono's "Life in Mono", depending on what ad you see. Tori's not being advertised as part of the Great Expectations pheomenon, unfortunately. :( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:05:34 GMT From: "John M." Subject: Re: a "best of" compilation of non-lp tracks On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:47:41 -0500, you wrote: >it's been a while since i posted anything.. i thought i would bring this >up, as i was dubbing a tape i made for a friend... i put together a 100 >min. tape of what i thought was a pretty good retrospective of non-lp >tracks (what i mean by this is - not the exact track from the lp, it >could be the same song, live or whatever).. i came up with a great title >for the tape.. "all these years"... original don't you think? :P >anyway.. i just wanted to see what other people's views on this idea >is... have you done a similar thing? what was on the tape? etc. etc. >btw, if anybpdy wants a copy of this tape, contact me and i will be = happy >to dubb it for you. Excellent post. I'm currently compiling rare Tori tracks from several = sources for a couple of 'fan only' CDs. Here's what I have already: TRACK SOURCE Wrapped Around Your Finger [Audience tape] Danny Boy [Audience tape] Cooling [Audience tape] Tiny Dancer [Audience tape] Ain't No Sunshine [Audience tape] Imagine [Audience tape] Sentimental Journey [Audience tape] Purple Rain [Audience tape]=20 Daniel [Audience tape] Candle In The Wind [Audience tape] Lovesong [Radio broadcast] She's Leaving Home [Audience tape] Boys In The Trees [Audience tape] =46or Emily Wherever I... [Audience tape] Saturday Afternoon, 1963 [Audience tape] Landslide [Audience tape] Baltimore [Baltimore vinyl single] Walking With You [Baltimore vinyl single, B side] A Happy Day [Baltimore vinyl single, B side] Improvisation [The 'wedding performance' tape] Evergreen [The 'wedding performance' tape] If [The 'wedding performance' tape] You Needed Me [The 'wedding performance' tape] You Light Up My Life [The 'wedding performance' tape] We've Only Just Begun [The 'wedding performance' tape] I'm On Fire [Crossroads CD]=20 Ring My Bell [NME Ruby Trax CD] =46amous Blue Raincoat [Leonard Cohen tribute CD]=20 Happy Worker [Toys OST CD]=20 Butterfly [Higher Learning OST CD]=20 Losing My Religion [Higher Learning OST CD] Siren [Great Expectations OST CD] If anybody has anything other rare tracks in MP3 format (eg 'Thunder = Road') or on a bootleg CD then I would be glad to hear from them. I also have = snippets of 'For Mark' and 'Fool on the Hill' but would appreciate full length versions. - -- The windows of my soul are made of one way glass =20 Don't bother looking into my eyes =20 If there's something you want to know... just ask = -- Ani D. [Ani D.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:15:12 -0800 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: From The Rolling Stone Book of Women in Rock Hi all, I'm currently reading the Rolling Stone Book of Women in Rock (edited by Barbara O'Dair), which is fabulous and detailed and exhaustive, and I wanted to share with you the bit they wrote about Tori. It comes in the section called "Divas and B-Girls: From the Seventies to Today," and in an article by Ann Powers (who co-edited the amazing "Rock She Wrote" a few years ago) called "Bohemian Rhapsodies." The article discusses a ton of great female artists we all know and love, beginning with Stevie Nicks and Grace Slick, Heart and Lene Lovich, and going into Cyndi Lauper, Kate Bush, Madonna, Siouxsie Sioux, Kristin Hersh/Throwing Muses/Tanya Donelly, Jane Siberry, Diamanda Galas, The Roches, Sarah McLachlan and Bjork -- all leading up to this paragraph on Tori: "Yet if Robert Plant were in the market for a divine consort -- or adversary -- today, there'd be only one choice: Tori Amos. Not only does this one-time piano prodigy regularly riff on Led Zep's "Whole Lotta Love" in concert, she has also made it her project to recharge the feminine paradigm with a heavy dose of sexual drive and superstar charisma. This minister's daughter is a princess with a difference; instead of cultivating a separate space where her femininity can thrive, Amos mizes it up with that tomboy streak and puts it right out there. She prokects an androgyny that's far more down-to-earth than most that have graced rock's arenas, one that mixes ultragirl looks (the cascading hair, the leotards) with a physical confidence that's still too rare in most women (she sits wide-legged in ripped jeans at he piano, and growls as often as she trills). Her compositions follow the pattern of her body language. Sometimes Amos' self-importance grates, and she can be impossibly adorable, spouting verses in a lily-white whisper. But she can also turn those phrases dark or deadly with the bat of an eye. Singing about teenage clumsiness isn't risky, but singing about teenage orgasm is, and Amos does it. She's sung about the fear of pregnancy, female competitiveness and the memory of her own rape -- that song, "Me and a Gun,: was honored by the D.C. Rape Crisis Center in 1994, and inspired her to co-found RAIN (sic) (Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network), a hotline for victims of abuse or violence. And on 1996's Boys for Pelem she exhibited a musical courage as striking as her lyrical intensity, blending genres ranging from classical to musical comedy, postpunk to soft rock, in songs that defy standard structure, suggesting a whole new way of approaching the role of singer-songwriter." Later on in the final paragraph, Powers has this to add: "Rock still favors the boyish, and women who won't or can't conform to that style and attitude still get called names (just count the number of times the word 'weird' pops up in the collected criticism of Bjork, Tori Amos, Jane Siberry and Kate Bush)." I thought it was a pretty good analysis of Tori's work, and although it misses some of the finer points, it's nice to see she's making the annals of rock history already... Beth - -- "Look, a six-year-old girl last year fought off a kidnapper by imitating one of my kicks. That's what we're talking about when we talk about Girl Power." (Melanie Chisholm, aka Sporty Spice) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 21:27:27 EST From: sleeper Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #27 hello, i was just wondering if you have any exact dates and locations for Tori's upcoming club tour? i would really like to know about her shows in both Pillie and NY. thanx, josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:19:41 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: God Single On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Geoff Moore wrote: > Does anyone know how commmon the God U.S. single is? It's the one with two > non vocal songs and Home on the Range. While I'm on that topic, are any of > her singles rare? I've seen Cornflake Girl, CALS, Talula, and others all for > sale, about $5. All U.S., too. Any help would be appreciated... All of the US singles are still very easy to come buy, even the so-called "limited edition" Winter {limited in that not every man, woman, and cockroach on the planet can't have 8 copies each}. I can pick up all the US singles for $4-$10 very easily. UK singles, on the other hand, tend to be rare. None of the BfP ones are hard to come by, but several of the LE and UtP ones are rather rare. For example, the UK limited edition CfG single goes for around $50 these days, and I've seen the UK limited edition Crucify go for upwards of $100. /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: New Tori Song; 2 On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Marcel F G Rijs wrote: > On the subject of "new Tori songs": I saw a bootleg during a record fair > this past weekend, containing "The concert for RAINN" and one bonus track. > It was called "Abbey Road" (just like the Beatles album and the EMI studio) > and was announced as a "new studio track from Tori, december 1996". I > didn't buy this CD, but maybe someone has got it? Please let me know if I > should've bought it or not. It sounds like a hoax, but one never knows. That song, Abbey Road, is something that she performed on a live radio show in November 1996. I don't recall the name of the show offhand. In fact, if anyone has this, drop me a line so we can work out a trade. I've had a couple of trades worked out for it, but they've all fallen through, and it's annoying. I have -lots- to trade. :) /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:40:08 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Richman Subject: Re: covers > But secondly, and more importantly, I'm wondering what it is about Tori's > covers which we love so much? I mean she's done fantastic versions of > Landslide and Lovesong and Summertime and Losing my Religion and Teen Spirit > and Case of you and on and on... But they're not original material, so why > do we love it when she does 'em? It's not that she does 'em better than the > originals do, although some might prefer her versions. Is it that she likes > the same songs we do? Is it that we want to hear our favorite songs all done > by our favorite artist? Just my opinions follow... Funny you should mention this. I have a friend who claimed a cover could never be as good as the original. No so I counter. I am old enough to remember when Landslide was getting airtime. Tori's version seems pretty faithful to the original composition and, in my opinion, just as good. If you want an example of something not faithful (but brilliant), compare All Along the Watchtower by Dylan and Hendrix. I think Joni Mitchell's original Case of You is superior to Tori's though. There is a movie floating around (I forget the title) centered around that song. I've never heard Tori's cover of Summertime. What's that available on? The best cover of that song I've heard is Janis Joplin. I drove off the road the first time I heard it. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:22:00 -0500 (EST) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: Extra GE promo soundtrack Okay. I put thiss up on the auction block a few weeks ago, but since the one respondant hasn't gotten back to me, I'll post about it again. I have an extra prerelease (read: no-frills) Great Expectations soundtrack to offer to a lucky European/Aussie EWF. Originally I was going to auction it off, but if any overseas Toriphiles have an extra copy of the European "China" single (with "Flying Dutchman") or the single with the original "Here. in my Head", and want to trade for the GE soundtrack, PLEASE email me. (If you have any other interesting Tori singles/bee sides, contact me and let me know.) Thanks, Chelsea ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #28 ************************************