From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #22 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, January 17 1998 Volume 03 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori Club Tour [NaughtyEmp ] Re: Purple Monkey ["Mickey Sun" ] Re: Sound Checks [Tasha325 ] Re: rabbit in the moon's OBE [Tasha325 ] Tori in People, Feb. 5, 1996 [Richard Handal ] harmonium -- again ["/meade ee" ] A new user. [Stephen.Allen@psygnosis.co.uk] Re: sword & stone [Ken Tough ] Re: anyone who doesn't believe in faeries, etc. etc. ["Saige the Faerie P] Re: REALLY IMPORTANT TORI INFO (4 REAL!!!) [The Bursar ] Re: the purple monkey [Ruthless ] sword and stone [Ruthless ] Tori covering Sarah McLachlan song [Laryza Morales ] re: critics and marianne [Boy4Pele79 ] Re: faerie trees [clockwork_lemon@juno.com (natalie t ballard)] Re: critics and marianne [clockwork_lemon@juno.com (natalie t ballard)] Re: anyone who doesn't believe in faeries, etc. etc. [clockwork_lemon@jun] Marianne ["Hanna Paulus" ] On Tori's Popularity.../Doughnut Song [Space Dog ] Re: critics and marianne [darkfire@netcom.ca] Re: Marianne [Richard Handal ] All non Tori fans are recruitable/Doughnut Song ["Hanna Paulus" ] Re: On Tori's Popularity.../Doughnut Song [JEDAS1 ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:12:02 EST From: NaughtyEmp Subject: Tori Club Tour Anyone know of any set dates? Anything would be a tremendous help thanks, Lissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:19:31 -0800 From: "Mickey Sun" Subject: Re: Purple Monkey Beth wrote: >Umm... no. It's a reference to a stuffed purple monkey that Tori takes >around with her, puts on stage sometimes, and stuff. I even knew his name at >one point, so I'm sure someone around here knows what it is. That's funny, mainly because I recall reading an article in People magazine a couple of years ago where Tori mentioned that she had an imaginary purple monkey pal named Clunky. I never knew that she got Clunky stuffed? :) Mickey Sun University of California, Santa Cruz | micksun@cats.ucsc.edu PGP public key located at: http://www2.ucsc.edu/~micksun/pgp.htm Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right. - -Isaac Asimov | N = R* x fs x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:34:56 EST From: Tasha325 Subject: Re: Sound Checks well, if you end up with the right kind of job at the right time...you might get to go in, for a while anyway. i worked for an entertainment paper here (i'm a photographer by major and trade). and due to a grand twist of fate, the only real thing i got to do for the paper was go to a tori soundcheck and snap away. the rules of the venue or the tour managers or whoever, i don't know... was that the photographers (there was one other guy from another city) could come in for one song only and stand up at the stage and move around taking as many pics as possible. it was so hard to still be able to try to stop and enjoy being that close! so i got a roll of about 36 b&w pics... it was really incredible. oh yeah...she sang sister janet for that one song...it continues to be one of my favorites due to that memory. my soundcheck stori, anistasha i also ended up meeting her after the show, she gave me a kiss on the cheek and a nickname...but that is a whole nother toristori!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:45:11 EST From: Tasha325 Subject: Re: rabbit in the moon's OBE she has no credit on urbal beats anyway...so i don't know. that's why i was asking if it was on another album. the music sounds like P.T., but there are no P.T. lyrics. just someone (tori?) saying things like "will you meet me? and fly away..." or something remotely like that. i am the queen of flub-ups. :) the scream/moan is very tori... anistasha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:27:34 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Tori in People, Feb. 5, 1996 http://www.pathfinder.com/people/960205/picksnpans/song/song5.html Talking with ... Tori Amos "My Dinner with Clunky" How offbeat is singer-songwriter Tori Amos? Well, her childhood imaginary pal Clunky, a purple monkey, is alive and well and in a song on her third full-length solo CD, BOYS FOR PELE (Atlantic). "I've been aware of him for years," says Amos, 32, an American who's single and lives in London, "I've had many a dinner with him. He's always sitting on my shoulder." WHERE DO YOU WRITE YOUR SONGS? I like writing in bathrooms. The acoustics can be great. You can turn on the water, sing, and nobody can hear you. LIKE TERI HATCHER, YOU HAVE A BIG FOLLOWING ON THE INTERNET? DO YOU READ THE MESSAGES YOUR FANS SEND TO YOU? I don't own a computer. I have a nine-foot piano in my home to compose my messages. Why would I want a one-foot computer to do the same thing? I'm fascinated by my road crew's fascination with computers, but I don't have any desire to use that keyboard. I want to go back to my own. WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT PERFORMING LIVE? When I play live, I walk in feeling that we could go anywhere, reach any star system. Once I'm out there it's almost like I'm in a trance. I can get very physical, too. Hopefully, when I go back on tour, it'll tone my body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:44:13 PST From: "/meade ee" Subject: harmonium -- again greetings, earswithfeet: I'm still trying to make the harmonium tape, which has proven to be more difficult that i expected. not that that's bad, i like a challenge, but it does postpone it a bit and take it's toll. to those of you who have sent me tapes: thank you *so*much* for your prompt reply & action, i only wish everyone could've done so much! please give me a little more time, i promise i'll have it to you. shall i begin: i was expecting six or so tapes in the mail that i'm now convinced aren't coming, and i can no longer get in touch with the person who promised them to me. the problem is: now i don't have enough songs to complete the tape. and lucyx, if you're out there, email me please! the offer i made before stands: one tape, one show with a song tori played on *the*harmonium*organ*, and i'll send you a copy of a harmonium collection when i have completed it. if you have more than one show, i'd be glad to exchange a tape or two (or more!) from my personal collection, located at http://stain.simplenet.com/boots/ the setlist *so*far* is as follows: 4.9.96 tampa fl -- hey jupiter 6.21.96 salt lake city, ut -- professional widow 7.2.96 phoenix, az -- purple rain 8.26.96 homdel, nj -- professional widow/hey jupiter 9.18.96 muncie, in -- kumbaya/killing me softly 9.24.96 normal, il -- professional widow 9.28.96 chicago, il -- etienne 10.19.96 clearwater, fl -- purple rain/fire on the side 10.22.96 miami, fl -- killing me softly 10.29.96 austin, tx -- sister janet unknown/undated -- killing me softly unknown/undated -- hey jupiter but: these are those that i've heard of since starting my search or have lost along the way. if you have *ANY* of these shows, please let me know, i hope we can work something out. 4.26.96 washington, dc (hey jupiter) 5.13.96 new york city (talula/sweet dreams/hey jupiter) 5.15.96 new york city (professional widow) 6.4.96 cleveland, ohio (cool on your island) 7.28.96 indianapolis, in (cool on your island) 8.6.96 milwaukee, wi (cool on your island, hey jupiter) 8.16.96 wolf trap, wi (purple rain) 9.30.96 baltimore (killing me softly) 10.11.96 roanoke, va (old man/hey jupiter) ? albany, ny (song for eric) ?/? (black swan) this isn't all of them! there are more, i know! please *please* let me know if you have anything or even know any more songs out there, and their dates & location... you're the best! i sure love the net...the earswithfeet on the net tend to be my favorite. <: /meade ********************************************* he says he rekons i'm a watercolour stain he says i run and then i run from him and then i run he didn't see me watching from the aeroplane he wiped a tear and then he threw away our apple seed tori ** father lucifer http://stain.simplenet.com/ ********************************************* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:33:29 +0000 From: Stephen.Allen@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: A new user. Hi fellow fans, I am new to these mailing list larks so bear with me. I am a 20 year old lad fan from Liverpool, England and have liked Tori since I heard Crucify. I am currently awaiting the new album material. Any people in the UK (esp girls) wanna chat to a scouser feel free. For my first request I was wondering if anybody has any good quality mp3 files of Y Kant Tori Read apart from the ones at the 'Putting the damage on' web site (The Big Picture, Cool on your Island, Fire on the Side and Fayth). I bought the 'Ultra Rare Tori' bootleg CD but the quality was awful so I got my money back straight away. Any replies would be appreciated Ste ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:04:36 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: sword & stone girl goddess #9 wrote: >>ok, i don't have the single with me right now, but the saty >>single by the company i Think is sword and stone (or something >>like that, correct me if i'm wrong): are they the ripoff company >>who just copies cd's and adds little stuff to 'em? >sword and stone are her lyrics copyright type peoples That's right (publishers). Better known as Edison & Mary Ellen (not necessarily in that order). - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:41:12 EST From: "Saige the Faerie Princess" Subject: Re: anyone who doesn't believe in faeries, etc. etc. >I myself am not going to alter my perceptions of the spiritual world >to please a woman I will most likely never meet. (I know *so* many >people, notably the AOL Tori room frequenters, who would say that I >am a *poser* Tori fan for this little bit of sacrilege that I just >spouted). ok... first off (and i'm not being bitchy) faeries aren't really spiritual. They are of another realm... the Fae realm. I have a story, written by my friend, posted on my webpage about Tori being of faerie decent (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6271/thebabe.html). It's just a story, so don't take it seriously or bitch to me about it. >I know *so* many people, notably the AOL Tori room frequenters, who >would say that I am a *poser* Tori fan for this little bit of >sacrilege that I just spouted). Don't worry about the lil AOL chat groupies... i've been to thet chat room once and never went back because of all the arguing and hatred. Loves ya, Stacie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:49:58 +0000 (GMT) From: The Bursar Subject: Re: REALLY IMPORTANT TORI INFO (4 REAL!!!) On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, MM62 wrote: >I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THIS BUT LOOK!!!! AND GUESS WHAT, APRIL 18 IS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!! It's mine too! Blah, I live in England. This has to be the only time in my life I've wished I didn't. To see Tori in a club!! Paul - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | "Uh, aha, uh, let's go to Rixy's! http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du | Elysium! Rowing! Rugby! Facking hell! http://toristuff.home.ml.org | Rowing! Elysium!" - A Durham Bloke speaks - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "Unemployment is not a disease but the natural, healthy functioning of an advanced technological society." - Robert Anton Wilson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:55:01 GMT From: bos197@soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tori Covers I had thought the same thing about Mansun doing covers of fav songs; i listened to "attack of the grey lantern" and i was really stunned because it was something special. But when i got to the end of the CD i found the hidden track which is a song about how lyrics aren't important as long as the song sounds nice.....and to me, Tori's lyrics are the centre to every song (the fact that the music is gorgeous simply helps)...so can you reconcile a very good band doing a cover of a song when the fundamental part of the song is the lyrics, which they don't care about!?!!?!!?!!? I'm confusing myself but i'd like to know what y'all think. If i could rule the world, Tori'd cover :"Little baby Nothing"-Old Manic's song :"From the edge of the deep green sea"-More Cure :""Only happy when it rains"-Garbage(that one'd bring out the devil in her, i think) God knows what songs i'd like to here her cover. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:14:02 -0500 From: geministar@webtv.net Subject: Really Deep Musings . . . Calling all Ears With Feet! On my homepage, I currently have a page devoted towards "Really Deep Musings", which are almost entirely Tori quotes that I've collected from various sources. I was wondering if any of you here have a favorite Tori quote (or any other *deep* quote, for that matter), that you wouldn't mind sharing with my page. Also, send me your own, and I'll credit you on the site. Thanks a lot! Hear the west wind whisper my name . . . http://www.angelfire.com/ny/westwind/quotes.html Toodles . . . ~geministar* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:38:50 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Tori Covers Someone said: > But when i got to the end of the CD i found the hidden track which is a > song about how lyrics aren't important as long as the song sounds > nice.....and to me, Tori's lyrics are the centre to every song (the fact > that the music is gorgeous simply helps)...so can you reconcile a very > good band doing a cover of a song when the fundamental part of the song > is the lyrics, which they don't care about!?!!?!!?!!? I find Tori's *music* to be uniquely inspired and brilliant, and I was just thinking a while ago this morning that it's odd to me that her lyrics are discussed about 50 times more than her music is--even realizing that it's much simpler to discuss words than it is sounds. She has so much artistry that it's difficult to take in all of it at once. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:13:14 GMT0BST From: Ruthless Subject: Re: the purple monkey Hi everybody, Hanna wrote: > line: "I see Timmy and that purple monkey..." in reference to masturbating Just for the record the purple monkey refers to Tori's imaginary childhood friend- Clunky the purple monkey. Cheers, Ruth Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine- Patti Smith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:06:29 GMT0BST From: Ruthless Subject: sword and stone Hi all, Just would like to clear one thing up- sword and stone is NOT a rip-off company who copies cds. SWord and Stone is Tori's official publishing company and is run by her father. Cheers, Ruth give me life, give me pain, give me myself again- Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:24:20 -0600 From: Laryza Morales Subject: Tori covering Sarah McLachlan song I would think it would be interesting to hear Tori cover a Sarah McLachlan song. Specifically the song Fumbling Towards Ecstasy on her album of the same title. I don't know ... maybe its because they are two of my most favorite artists. - -L- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:25:13 CST From: "rosalind's pea soup" Subject: faerie trees >Don't worry about the lil AOL chat groupies... i've been to thet >chat room once and never went back because of all the arguing and >hatred. I've had mostly positive experiences with this room...I think it really depends on who's in there, ya know??? I mean, thousands of Tori fans use that room...I'm sure the majority of them are great little specimens of humans. i believe in spreading the positive light around me...if that means I believe in faeries it isn't because someone told me to...it's because life has taught me how. lyrics are lyrics. what you feel and experience when you spin that little silver disc in your laser light is what matters. And where you go with the light you recieve from that disc is what matters. Tori doesn't preach to us...far from it...she hopes to help people and make them the better for having listened. When people bibber amongst themselves about which is the best or who did what first or anything of the sort it destroys the entire purpose of listening. offhand- i had a really bad experience one evening on aol...a person came into a tori chat and began to completely slam on absolutely anything he could...my initial reaction was to im him and tell him what a bastard he was...but then I thought about it, and I proceeded to keep telling him that I thought he was great and that I loved him as a human being...that he was all good. He got so frustrated that he began spouting insults about my family and my friends and various other mammals. Then he told me he couldn't stand my stupidity and he had to leave. I'd like to think I left some sort of odd impression... things always come back to you. somewhere on the wind... (my spouting episode is now complete. those of you who fell asleep please extinguish your cigarette before it burns a hole in your Dew Drop Inn t-shirt) bye lovers kerriloo^ "thanks for your interest, but my thing is already just the right size..." -miss ani d.- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:34:43 EST From: Boy4Pele79 Subject: re: critics and marianne Two things to comment on: "Alanis is little more than Glen Ballard's puppet (no relation to me." This comment really angers me because I respect Alanis Morissette greatly as an artist. I am quite aware that she doesn't write all of her own music and do her own producing, but calling her Glen Ballard's puppet is going WAY too far. She writes all of her own lyrics and her songs are poured directly from her heart. Her songwriting has helped me in my life just as Tori's has. "I agree with you all that Marianne is kind of like sexual in ways, besides Tuna Rubber a little blubber in my igloo, there is also the line: "I see Timmy and that purple monkey..." in reference to masturbating." I believe I read in People magazine when Boys For Pele first came out that Tori has an imaginary friend (name I can't remember) that is a purple monkey. Because of this, I doubt that she was refering to masturbation here. But it is possible I guess. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:39:31 -0600 From: clockwork_lemon@juno.com (natalie t ballard) Subject: Re: faerie trees On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:25:13 CST "rosalind's pea soup" > I mean, thousands of >Tori fans use that room...I'm sure the majority of them are great >little specimens of humans. Actually, I have noticed that in general, the same 10 people are always in the Tori room. As I mentioned in another post, the people in there frequently use each other's real names and act as clannish as possible, perhaps driving out the other EWFs who just want to talk about how much they love Tori too, and whose only crime is that they are not in the little Tori Chat Room Society. Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:36:20 -0600 From: clockwork_lemon@juno.com (natalie t ballard) Subject: Re: critics and marianne On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:34:43 EST Boy4Pele79 writes: > her songs are poured >directly from >her heart. Her songwriting has helped me in my life just as Tori's >has. If someone else writes her songs, how can they come directly from her heart? Just a thought. Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:34:00 -0600 From: clockwork_lemon@juno.com (natalie t ballard) Subject: Re: anyone who doesn't believe in faeries, etc. etc. On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:41:12 EST "Saige the Faerie Princess" >written by my friend, posted on my webpage about Tori being of faerie >decent (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6271/thebabe.html). > >Don't worry about the lil AOL chat groupies... i've been to thet >chat >room once and never went back because of all the arguing and hatred. I have had many a bad experience in the Tori rooms as well. I once made the grave error of saying "LOL" to some comment some girl made, and she and two of her friends jumped on my ass about how that comment wasn't intended to be funny, and how I should really get my act together. Sheesh!! Most of the people who frequent that room are invariably snotty and clannish.....when I enter the room, they will resort to using the real names of the other people in there, so I have no idea who is talking to who. I finally gave up and began to go to the rooms inhabited by fairly intelligent people. Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:56:21 PST From: "Hanna Paulus" Subject: Marianne I'm sorry all, I miss interpreted the line timmy and that pruple monkey, *embarassed*, it's just because of my pervert friends and this little joke w have amongst our selves. Sorry. Hanna ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:52:53 -0500 From: Space Dog Subject: On Tori's Popularity.../Doughnut Song Right on, Josh! People have thought I was gay for listening to her. I used to think Tori was just a female thing, but then watching some concerts on tape and meeting people on this list I'd say there are a LOT if not MORE guys that are into her. I don't see what's wrong with understanding the female point of view. I really can't stand people who won't even listen to Tori and will bash her. My friend, Blair, will just talk about her using terms like "bitch" and other vulgarities and he hasn't even listened to her music. But he's really into Phish and the like, so there's not much hope for him. I'd just like to say while I feel like I'm on my soap box, I sometimes cry when I hear the background vocals on the Doughnut Song. Theyr'e so simple, but so moving. Maybe it's just because I can relate so much. Anyone else had an experience with the background of Doughnut? - --JOE ************************************************************** VIEW MY TRADING LIST HERE! Alanis Underground www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 Listen, My Children www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 Old Dads Club www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" --Tori Amos "Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for believers in live, love, faith, and purity." --I Timothy 4:12 ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:30:26 -0600 From: darkfire@netcom.ca Subject: Re: critics and marianne > If someone else writes her songs, how can they come directly from her > heart? Just a thought. > Natalie Alanis writes the lyrics herself. She and Ballard write the music together. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:59:06 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Marianne Hanna Paulus said: > I'm sorry all, I miss interpreted the line timmy and that pruple monkey, > *embarassed*, it's just because of my pervert friends and this little > joke w have amongst our selves. Sorry. Hanna, et al--no one has to apologize because they didn't happen to read a certain article or two which addressed something like this. It's just not appropriate. Don't give it a second thought. And I am *so* looking forward to yet *another* list being taken over by Alanis-bashing. [sigh] :-/ What an enormous waste of time and energy! Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:22:32 PST From: "Hanna Paulus" Subject: All non Tori fans are recruitable/Doughnut Song << But he's really into Phish and the like, so there's not much hope < Subject: Pet Promo Hi EWF's This is marginally Tori related if any of you don't know Pet. They were the first artist signed to tori's own record label Igloo. Anyway I've got a promo of their album that I've had for a while (since it came out I guess) and I don't feel like keeping it around anymore. I never really listened to it. So here I am ready to give it away :) No auction or anything. I'm giving it away just for the cost of shipping which is 5 bucks for me because I don't live anywhere near a post office and the Mailboxes Etc. is a rip-off with priority mail. So just email me and the first reply I get will get it. Thanks Roger "I'm a clinically-depressed fecalphiliac on prozac" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:13:12 EST From: JEDAS1 Subject: Re: On Tori's Popularity.../Doughnut Song In a message dated 1/16/98 7:30:27 PM, jlovoi@sps.edu wrote: <> yeah Joe...me! I had a horrible ex boyfriend...but now I'm with my new guy for seven months. So, I guess Dougnut Song used to make me really sad but now I'm happy I'm over my ex! :) julie ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #22 ************************************