From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #375 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, December 30 1997 Volume 02 : Number 375 Today's Subjects: ----------------- bside question [SmerfCrazy ] Re: bside question ["Everybody Else's Girl" ] tori and trent ["mimi stout" ] Re: bside question [Richard Handal ] Re: bside question [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Boot Track Lists [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: jumping on the bandwagon [Tori805 ] Re: bside question [Mickey Sun ] Crossroads video [Jennifer Cypres ] Re: Crossroads video [geministar@webtv.net] Re:Flub-Ups [Stephanie Handley ] Re:Flub-Ups [Tim Madden ] Re: Crossroads video [JEDAS1 ] talula extra! [Torifile ] Merry Widow [Alicia ] BfP remastered? [pigs@swva.net (Martin)] Re: talula extra! [Alicia ] Re: BfP remastered? [Nancy Ann Motherway ] Re: BfP remastered? [WeirdyBoi ] Re: BfP remastered? ["Centaur" ] Re: bside question [MaidenShru ] Re: BfP remastered? [JLee833093@aol.com] Winter Single ["Geoff Moore" ] Re: Flub-Ups [Anavrin560 ] could tori be the next big thing in 98? [Torifile ] Pedals of the blood roses. [Torifile ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 01:16:21 EST From: SmerfCrazy Subject: bside question well, i was just flying through the countelss tori sites tonite and came across 2 bsides that i had never even heard of before...... they are "Cooling" and "For Mark". i was just wondering if they are on any singles/bootlegs that i could geta hold of...... can anyone help? i also saw two other bsides: "To the Fair Motor Maids of Japan" and "Peeping Tommy", but it said next to these two that they were never released/not available......... hmmmmm....... how would this person know about them then? food for thought i suppose. ok, its late and im just kinda spilling my mind to you poor people.. ill stop now circles and circles, ~johnny 2-tones~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:00:32 -0800 From: "Everybody Else's Girl" Subject: Re: bside question On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 01:16:21AM -0500, SmerfCrazy wrote: > well, i was just flying through the countelss tori sites tonite and came > across 2 bsides that i had never even heard of before...... they are "Cooling" > and "For Mark". > i was just wondering if they are on any singles/bootlegs that i could geta > hold of...... can anyone help? > circles and circles, > ~johnny 2-tones~ *hugs and faerie dust* everyone. I have the boot "Blood Roses" with the song "For Mark" on it, and I know "Cooling" is on a taped boot of a DDI tour concert...That's about all I know. I think "For Mark" might be on several different boots. Everybody Else's Grrl aka ramoth@sonic.net **************************************************************************** "As for fighting dragons... I say, let the wimminfolk slay their own dragons. But most women I've heard talk about it, said they would keep it for a pet. *Shrug* As long as they get a big enough litterbox..." Chris Meyers from RDT **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:04:11 PST From: "mimi stout" Subject: tori and trent i really hope i'm doing this right :) anyway i was wondering if anyone knows where the cartoon picture of tori and trent hugging that was on a christmas card is or where i can get it see i found it once somewhere on the net and then lost it anyway i'd really appreciate it if anyone can help me thanks so much "and in the doorway they stay and laugh as violins fill with water screams from the bluebells can't make them go away" tori, girl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 07:06:46 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: bside question johnny 2-tones wondered: [...] > i also saw two other bsides: "To the Fair Motor Maids of Japan" and > "Peeping Tommy", but it said next to these two that they were never > released/not available......... To The Fair Motormaids of Japan is an unreleased song recorded in the Pele era. Peeping Tomi is an unreleased song recorded in the UtP era. (Note corrected spellings.) > hmmmmm....... how would this person know about them then? Well, she mentioned To The Fair Motormaids of Japan in an interview which I don't recall by name. Mikewhy referred to it on his site a while ago, and it's probably still on there somewhere if you slog through the articles links. Might have been an article in Billboard. I believe it was early in 1996. Other than in Online Toriville, I never saw any public mention of Peeping Tomi, and I, too, would be curious to know how that title got out to public. > food for thought i suppose. Indeed. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 08:21:42 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: bside question On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, SmerfCrazy wrote: > well, i was just flying through the countelss tori sites tonite and came > across 2 bsides that i had never even heard of before...... they are "Cooling" > and "For Mark". Well, I really wouldn't call these b-sides, since they've never been released in legitimate form. "Cooling" was performed in Florida on October 23, 1996, during the DDI tour. "For Mark" was an improvised song that she did on Modern Rock Live. If you need copies of either of these, just drop me a line and we'll work something out. > i was just wondering if they are on any singles/bootlegs that i could geta > hold of...... can anyone help? > i also saw two other bsides: "To the Fair Motor Maids of Japan" and "Peeping > Tommy", but it said next to these two that they were never released/not > available......... hmmmmm....... how would this person know about them then? > food for thought i suppose. IIRC, Tori mentioned the motormaid song during an interview {Billboard maybe?}. As for the other, I haven't seen any online mention of it. However, my memory is telling me that one can go to the Library of Congress and peruse their stacks, and find information about copywrited material by doing a search on the writer's name. Don't quote me on that last bit, though, it's been a long time since I've dug through the LoC stacks! /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 08:16:35 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Boot Track Lists On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Jacob wrote: > I hope I'm not violating anything, but I saw these three boots (I think > they're boots) on a cd store website. But there are no track listings. > Forgotten Earthquakes > Unplugged > Unplugged & Unreleased Yup, these are all boots. > Could someone please send me (privately) the track lists or a URL for a > page that will have it. I'd sooo appreciate it. I'm hungry for new Tori and > her new album's a while away. I'm sorry if this isn't allowed. If I could > find any singles from LE I would shell out the cash, and if Unplugged were > released officially I'd buy it. But bootlegs seem to be my only option. You can find the track listing for all known Tori boots at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/alley/4370/tabdnew.html Depending on which LE era singles you're looking for, you may still be able to find them. The UK LE singles are harder to come by, but the US ones aren't bad at all. The "limited edition" Winter is -very- easy to come by, as is the Crucify EP. I see both around here {Atlanta} regularly. Be aware that the boots that have the Unplugged performance -only- include the songs that were aired, and don't reflect the whole performance that Tori did. To my knowledge, there is nothing out there with the whole performance. If you've taped the Unplugged performance, it would be a whole lot cheaper to just hook up your stereo to the television and tape it off of there. /nad {it's snowing!} *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:04:25 EST From: Tori805 Subject: Re: jumping on the bandwagon stephanie - *applause* - -sue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:31:43 -0800 (PST) From: Mickey Sun Subject: Re: bside question On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Richard Handal wrote: > Other than in Online Toriville, I never saw any public mention of Peeping > Tomi, and I, too, would be curious to know how that title got out to > public. I recall reading about Peeping Tommy/Tomi in the now defunct Upside Down Fanclub Magazine. If anyone's interested, I'll go dig that one up when I get back from work tonight. Have a great one. Mickey Sun University of California, Santa Cruz | mailto:micksun@cats.ucsc.edu PGP public key located at: http://www2.ucsc.edu/~micksun/pgp.htm Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:22:58 -0500 From: Jennifer Cypres Subject: Crossroads video JEDAS1 wrote: >>Last night my boyfriend gave me the VH1 Crossroads CD with the Tori video. It's wonderful. Maybe that was magical in a way...b/c I wasn't feeling well last night...and then I just felt instantly better from the CD! =) julie>> Which video? And can you buy that CD at any old record store, ya think? Thanks! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:05:08 -0500 From: geministar@webtv.net Subject: Re: Crossroads video Jennifer, I bought my copy of the Crossroads CD at Barnes and Noble and I've seen it other places too. It was under "compilations" in the racks. Oh - and the video is a CD-ROM video clip that I haven't been able to see 'cause I only have a Web TV! Oh well - I heard it's amazing! Good luck finding it! :-) "maybe I'm a witch, lost in time . . ." ~~~ check my webpage at: www.angelfire.com/ny/westwind ~~~~~~! ~geministar* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:58:31 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re:Flub-Ups Ok, I guess it's time to 'fess up. I thought long and hard about this (as you can tell by the tardiness of this post!) In "Take to the Sky" I thought for a week or so that she was singing: "Have a cig while I take to the sky", rather than "seat". Sorry Tori, I like cig better, work with Caton! You just sit and smoke your cigarette while I fly with the eagles. Stephanie (who is also a nasty smoker) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:08:01 -0700 From: Tim Madden Subject: Re:Flub-Ups Stephanie wrote: >In "Take to the Sky" I thought for a week or so that she was singing: >"Have a cig while I take to the sky", rather than "seat". Sorry Tori, I >like cig better, work with Caton! I am glad I am not the only one who thought it was "cig" and not "seat". I thought it was cig for about 2 years until UtP came out, and I found the lyrics on the 'net. I also think cig works better too. The first time I heard Culture Club sing Karma Chameleon (or whatever the song is) back in high school I thought Boy George was singing about the joys of becoming a comedian! My version is better. Tim Madden timadden@tesser.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:35:08 EST From: JEDAS1 Subject: Re: Crossroads video In a message dated 12/29/97 3:00:52 PM, CYPRESJ@SMTPG.COMPSYS.COM wrote: <> It's a live performance of her cover of Bruce Springsteen's, "I'm On Fire." And yes any old record store will do. =) julie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:50:17 EST From: Torifile Subject: talula extra! ok in 96 when i bought my FIRST tori CD, boys for pele, I loved every song on it. Talula was one of my favorites. I noticed that at the en she dos this little half sigh half laugh. Its like"heyeah". Welp im the god of useless news. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:24:56 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Merry Widow =20 Hi everybody! =20 I just wanted to share my thoughts about the Merry Widow version of Professional Widow. I love it, it's absolutely and completely beautiful. Why had nobody told me about this? And I also really, really love "Honey". And I also could realize how rude some fans can be.=20 I'm so lucky I could get this friend to lend me the HJ ep.=20 Well, anyways, take care, Alicia "How could I be so immature To think that he could replace The missing elements in me" -Bj=F6rk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:03:04 -0500 From: pigs@swva.net (Martin) Subject: BfP remastered? So, this is probably old news, but what do I care cause it's news to me and I am surrounded by about 8 inches of snow. I broke my BfP CD a while ago, don't ask me how, so I got another one. I listened to it a while later, and discovered that Talula had somehow become the Twister version. I tried to exchange it for an older copy with the album version, but they wouldn't let me, saying they thought the album had just been remastered and they didn't know if they even had any old copies. Just wondering if anybody else had heard this. See you in the wings, Erin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 01:50:59 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: talula extra! I noticed that at the en she dos this >little half sigh half laugh. Its like"heyeah". Welp im the god of useless >news. I noticed it too! only that the first BfP I bought was a tape (I didn't think only one song- CALS- was worth buying the CD! How would I know?) and I thought she did it before Not the Red Baron, and I tried to understand the meaning.=20 Alicia "How could I be so immature To think that he could replace The missing elements in me" -Bj=F6rk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:55:20 -0700 (MST) From: Nancy Ann Motherway Subject: Re: BfP remastered? Yeah, as of a year ago, BFP has been released with the Talula "Tornado" version. The album with the original Talula is no longer made. I have found used copies of BFP in record stores though. On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Martin wrote: > So, this is probably old news, but what do I care cause it's news to me and > I am surrounded by about 8 inches of snow. I broke my BfP CD a while ago, > don't ask me how, so I got another one. I listened to it a while later, and > discovered that Talula had somehow become the Twister version. I tried to > exchange it for an older copy with the album version, but they wouldn't let > me, saying they thought the album had just been remastered and they didn't > know if they even had any old copies. Just wondering if anybody else had > heard this. > > See you in the wings, > Erin > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:58:28 EST From: WeirdyBoi Subject: Re: BfP remastered? Atlantic really liked the Tornado mix of Talula, and so did Tori. So, only the first pressings of Boys for Pele have the original version. The first 800,000 copies, to be exact. All the rest, and all in the future, have the Tornado version. j'Ason http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:15:48 -0500 From: "Centaur" Subject: Re: BfP remastered? That's funny - I had the exact opposite experience a few weeks ago. I scratched my BfP CD with the Tornado version, bought a new copy at Circuit City and was shocked by how different Talula sounded. I didn't realize at first that I was buying one of the original CD's. Actually I was disappointed since I prefer the Tornado version. I did hear Glitter Girl for the first time at least :) Ken - -----Original Message----- From: Martin To: precious-things@smoe.org Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 8:51 PM Subject: BfP remastered? >So, this is probably old news, but what do I care cause it's news to me and >I am surrounded by about 8 inches of snow. I broke my BfP CD a while ago, >don't ask me how, so I got another one. I listened to it a while later, and >discovered that Talula had somehow become the Twister version. I tried to >exchange it for an older copy with the album version, but they wouldn't let >me, saying they thought the album had just been remastered and they didn't >know if they even had any old copies. Just wondering if anybody else had >heard this. > >See you in the wings, >Erin > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:18:33 EST From: MaidenShru Subject: Re: bside question im probobly responding to this a lot later than i should be b/c i havent cheked my mail in um...a while. but i dont think they're b-sides....i think they are supposed to be on the new album. Kedren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:42:41 -0500 (EST) From: JLee833093@aol.com Subject: Re: BfP remastered? i believe that the first 800,000 copies of BFP had the original Talula on it while the others contain the Tornado version. If you look through the used CD bins you might be able to find the "1st edition." From what I know, the new CDs that are in stores now should have the Tornado version on em. Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:53:48 -0500 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: Winter Single Okay, Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are three copies of the Winter Single? I'm really not sure. See, I know there's the one in the U.K., which shows Tori on a pony in Black & White, I think. Then, there's the one in the U.S. with a close uup of here on the pony, in color... which is Limited Edition. Then, it was re-released in 1992? Could someone please clear this up for me, because I have the L.E. one, and it says 1991... and I'm just really lost here. Geoff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Every finger in the room is pointing at me.... I wanna spit in their faces, then I get afraid of what that could bring...-Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:12:50 EST From: Anavrin560 Subject: Re: Flub-Ups I just just remembered my mess up. I thought that in Muhhamad My Friend where she says "I got a place in the pope's rubber robe" that she was instead saying "I got a place in the pope's rubber room" and that just made so much sense to me, and I thought it was really cool. Well until I learned what it really was, then I felt kinda silly. But only slightly. Carol (a brand spanking new to this girl) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:49:02 EST From: Torifile Subject: could tori be the next big thing in 98? Ok i was watching MTV this morning and Bill Belamy had said something like "Could there be a new thing in 98? Could there be a new star or one that already exist that is just risinG? What will 98 bring?" Well I was thinking. What if tori was the next big thing in 98. How would It change things. It would definitly change the way a lot of people think. Especialy some of the critics. Well this is my 2 cents worth! Love ya Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:41 EST From: Torifile Subject: Pedals of the blood roses. salutations TO ALL!!!!!!!! YOU ARE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE THE PEDALS OF THE BLOOD ROSES. FOR LYRICS TO ALMOST ALL OF TORI'S SONGS, SOME IMAGES OF TORI, AN INTERACTIVE BIOGRAPHY, AND A NEAT LITTLE SURVEY, GO HERE. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #375 *************************************