From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #342 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, December 3 1997 Volume 02 : Number 342 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori's house [Rachel Roth ] Re: swell-ins??? [A Wee Little Girl With a Can of Gasoline ] Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? [Shirley ] Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori [Shirley ] Re: a lil' fiona question.... [LEQ@aol.com] Re: a lil' fiona question.... [LEQ@aol.com] Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? ["Mickey Sun" ] Re: a lil' fiona question.... ["Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." ] Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori [Shirley ] most memorable tori moment ["poison me against the moon..." ] Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori [meredith ] Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? [Jessie L Ksanznak Subject: tori's house I don't know when this event actually occurred, but a friend of mine came over today and told me a story about her sister. supposedly her sister used to live in florida and was friends with a real estate agent down there. One day the guy said to her: hey you gotta come see this house its huge it's going for 3 million dollars or whatever. So she goes to look at the house, and its Tori's house... So she gets the grand tour, and even met Tori's mother because she was moving stuff... some story...does anyone know if and when tori had a house for sale in florida? Rachel ##################################################### Mother the car is here somebody leave the light on green limosine for the redhead dancing dancing girl and when I dance for him somebody leave the light on just in case I like the dancing I can remember where I come from.... #################################################### ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:30:19 -0500 (EST) From: A Wee Little Girl With a Can of Gasoline Subject: Re: swell-ins??? > 12KGILBERT@gallua.gallaudet.edu wrote: > > I finally got to listen to my YKTR album and found three songs that do > the same thing: Floating City, On the Boundary, and the Etienne Trilogy. > While listening to these, I noticed that ALL of the songs on the YKTR > album with the exception of Pirates end in a fade-out. Does this have > to do with Tori playing with a band? Should we expect more fade-outs > on her next album? It'll be interesting to see. > Kevin I doubt that.... (oops, sorry, too much coffee this morning....) Tori's albums are really very much informed by her live shows, shaped by live performances of them, and i think written to be played live. I don't think she was doing too many live performances of YKTR stuff when she wrote it (i could be wrong, but i haven't really heard about any shows of that music), and it's got a lot more conventionally poppy stuff on it, and happening in the music--like fade-outs. I think even if she puts a band together now, she wouldn't be too worried about that kind of thing--making the music radio-friendly, or making it "normal". Which i think was definitely happening on YKTR. I think she'd make an album with a band sound much more interesting, and i think she'd think of better ways to end songs that just to fade them out. Plus, you can't have a big rock finale with a fade-out. And where would Professional Widow be without its big rock finale? :) -=-laurie Or should that be "cock finale"? (Ouch, what a pathetic attempt at a joke that was....) _________________________________________________________________________ Quoth the Raven, furthermore, a garbage can wakes up, and a pathetic cough syrup hesitantly pours freezing cold water on a rattlesnake living with a Dark Overlord. My Whore code (v. 2.0) WhZz4 LSkGoG hR+(Br-)s+++ b64/63 B0E4# a20- sF7M252- K7+0bhlmOprX QZ v74s oTO X31 w5AT r4I- E- p0f*v7#g*s{87}C D3z7---!#a H!++p18usPa9 _________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: AstroKitty@aol.com Subject: Re: tori's house it might have been tori's parents' house. i heard they lived somewhere in south fla. but i'm probably wrong because as we all know half the things we hear about ms. amos are misconstrued anyway. - -megan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:06:45 -0600 From: "Ellis, Melanie S" Subject: Kate Bush vs. Tori Hello out there... Hey, its me, the one thats getting married. Well, I played Song for Eric (the chosen wedding song--my soloist loves it!) on the radio during my shift last week, and good friend called me up at the station saying that Tori was no good cuz Song for Eric was a Kate Bush rip off. I would like to heartily thank whoever posted about My Lagan Love, the Kate song and that the melody is traditional. Well what ended up happening was a war between me and this friend about whether or not Tori just does "Kate Bush rip-offs". I do NOT like Kate Bush...at least what ive heard, so I got pretty hot under the collar. SO--what im asking is: Whats your opinion on this? and What Kate Bush should I listen to to be objective about this whole thing? Whats Good? THANK YOU ALL!!! Daisy melanie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:11:38 -0800 From: Shirley Subject: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? What's your most memorable/chilling Tori moment? Mine is from Marianne: "I said Timmy and that purple Monkey are all down" I don't know why, but I really like how the "purple Monkey" sounds. It sends chills up my spine every time :) Actually, the entire song Marianne sends chills down my spine every time :P Another favorite moment is from "Here. In My Head" from the Dew Drop Inn Boulder CD You know how the in the song, her voice is high, lofty? Well, there's this one very short part in which her voice becomes husky. ...spring brings fresh little puddles "that makes it all clear, makes it all"... The part I have in quotations is when her voice is deep When I first heard it, it sent chills down my spine :) I also really like the way "Precious Things" is performed at a slow, drawn out pace on the DDI CD, compared to the album version. - -- Shirley "Spend all your time waiting for that second chance For a break that will make it okay There's always some reason To feel not good enough And it's hard at the end of the day" - -Sarah McLachlan, Angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:16:39 -0800 From: Shirley Subject: Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori > Whats your opinion on this? and > What Kate Bush should I listen to to be objective about this >whole thing? Whats Good? I'm a huge Kate fan, and I think a lot of her stuff is fantastic. Uhm, The Whole Story is a best-of compilation up to 1995. She has a great song called "This Woman's Work" on The Sensual World album (1989) and the album that really made her big in the US is Hounds of Love (1985). I really like that one. I like Kate. I like Tori. I also like a lot of other artists, you know what I mean? Well, here's a quote from Tori on Kate: > TORI: Well, when I was about seventeen, I was playing clubs and people > would come up to me and say, "You sound like Kate Bush." And at the > time: seventeen, that was ... thirteen years ago, and I would say, "I > don't, I don't know that, but I've heard of her." So eventually, of > course, I got her record, and I didn't really think I sounded like > her. But maybe there're moments--there're moments--who knows what my > great-great-great-great-grandfather was doing back there, you don't > know where the genes go. [Audience laughter.] I, I do admit that > there are moments of "God, that's uncanny." I mean, I guess if > somebody was going to do, like, you know, "Is it live or is it > Memorex?", we could probably do each other and nobody would know, > unless you really have a good ear. But, um, she smokes a little more > weed than I do, so I'd have to catch up. [Audience laughter.] Just > a little more. - -- Shirley "Spend all your time waiting for that second chance For a break that will make it okay There's always some reason To feel not good enough And it's hard at the end of the day" - -Sarah McLachlan, Angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: LEQ@aol.com Subject: Re: a lil' fiona question.... wow, didn't know i would offend you soooo much this is crazy, i just thought i would share my thought, jumping down my throat is unreal but that's okay, i can handle it! I like fiona due to her animal right activity. Which has nothing to do with tori also. so, toodles! sarah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:59:50 -0500 (EST) From: LEQ@aol.com Subject: Re: a lil' fiona question.... Wimplewurm wrote: <> god, all i did was say one little thing and i've had tons of letters (rude letters) replying back. EXCUSE me for being unaccurate, f. apple is a vegan. i didn't know this mailing list had to be precise. Is there anyone else on this list with an attitude that would like to go over the coals with me? I DIDN't lose any respect for fiona when she made the comment about tori because i don't know EXACTLY what she meant. She wasn't precise enough. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:40:13 -0800 From: "Mickey Sun" Subject: Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? >What's your most memorable/chilling Tori moment? Well, it would have to be when I met her on the Dew Drop Inn tour last year and asked her for an autograph. She started to sing the theme song to the Mickey Mouse club after I told her my name. Mickey Sun University of California, Santa Cruz | mailto:micksun@cats.ucsc.edu PGP print: E2F6 A7E7 EDFE 5A09 CE91 0D32 5ECC 74CD E14B A1F4 PGP public key located at: http://www2.ucsc.edu/~micksun/pgp.htm Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right. - -Isaac Asimov | N = R* x fs x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 14:06:07 -0700 From: "Raven" Subject: Re: Re: a lil' fiona question.... No offense but if ya'll are going to argue over who affended who, etc, please take it to private mail. It's a waste of space for everyone to be reading a little flame war about something stupid. - --Raven, who's hoping she doesn't get flamed for saying the above... - --"and i hate...and i hate...and i hate elevator music, the way we fight, the way i'm left here, in silence..." Little Earthquakes, Tori Amos >Wimplewurm wrote: ><butterball meat--that's a real feat. I sure can see why Fiona would be >jealous of Tori, but if you can respect her for being a vegetarian--I mean veg >an, how much respect did you lose for her when she made that comment about >Tori?>> > >god, all i did was say one little thing and i've had tons of letters (rude >letters) replying back. EXCUSE me for being unaccurate, f. apple is a vegan. > i didn't know this mailing list had to be precise. Is there anyone else on >this list with an attitude that would like to go over the coals with me? >I DIDN't lose any respect for fiona when she made the comment about tori >because i don't know EXACTLY what she meant. She wasn't precise enough. > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 17:17:35 +1300 From: anabug Subject: Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? At 01:40 PM 12/2/97 -0800, you wrote: >>What's your most memorable/chilling Tori moment? > >Well, it would have to be when I met her on the Dew Drop Inn tour last year >and asked her for an autograph. She started to sing the theme song to the >Mickey Mouse club after I told her my name. similar for me is when she sang yes, anastasia at a show i went to. it's my favourite song and my name. anastasia http://www.mhv.net/~anabug/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Re: a lil' fiona question.... > Wimplewurm wrote: > ...snip: how much respect did you lose for her when she made that comment about Tori?>> > This is just a quickie, but I've had so many messages in my mailbox I've been just too lazy to check them and I've expunged most of them un-read (I know... I feel guilty about it.), but what exactly DID Fiona say about Tori? I caught the thing about her not being a "poster child for rape" but I didn't think that sounded like a flame. Anyway, if somebody could please send me a copy of the Fiona Tori flame, I'd be interested in knowing. Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visi(bi)lity!| --------------- "Usually they sprinkle a few drops "Once you're friends with of water on your head; sad, you don't need to in my case, they held my head under be afraid of her anymore." for thirteen fucking years." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos "As for me, I'm one with my duality!" "Love all... open your eyes." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 20:27:53 -0500 From: kel11@scasd.k12.pa.us (Kim) Subject: Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? >>What's your most memorable/chilling Tori moment? It's gotta be when I first heard the recorded version of 'Losing my Religon.' Chills, and tears. The song really bore herself into my chest and made it feel empty. The song, for me is almost a continuation of 'Precious Things,' but softer, and so much more fragile. I completely deal with a past, painful infatuation when I listen to 'Losing my Religon.' That song feels as if it came out of the deepest part of my gut. 'Thought that I heard you laughing' follows me around sometimes, it nags and pulls on me, but it's a big part of what I went through, and it serves as a cold reminder. - --Kim "If you really want a challenge, just deal with yourself." - -Tori Amos "Music is the strongest kind of magic" - -Marilyn Manson "We all get intimidated by showing ourselves, for whatever reason, we think, If I really show who I am, and someone goes [pfftt] then it's gonna crush me. Well, it's not gonna crush me. It doesn't crush you if somebody does that- somebody will do that. Many times. And once you accept that that's not why you're doing it, you're doing it because that's your form of expression." --Tori Amos "Ike, who cares about your hair?" - -Taylor Hanson "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins "Music takes us out of the actual and whispers to us dim secrets that startle us to wonder as to who we are, and for what, whence, and whereth." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson "I listen to a lot of music and I read a lot of books and I know something great when I hear it." - -Tori Amos "Who said that? Who made up that rule? And what grave is he in over in Europe? Who cares? The worms have eaten him. It's over" - -Tori Amos "When all young people would start listening to their own voice instead of saying what adults say or whatever MTV dicatates, this would be a whole different planet." - -Tori Amos "Actually, I think the Muppets have a pretty good grip on things." - -Ray Lesch ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:55:08 EST From: Urucyon Subject: Re: administrivia In a message dated 97-12-02 01:36:50 EST, Yvette writes: << I don't think we were so much upset as it had taken a turn toward that place where all you do is go around in circles and attack those who do not agree. >> OK OK OK -for the record. i can't write any more apology notes tonight, i'm exhausted, so this is it. there were no attacks (made by me) directed towards anybody, and if any attacks were percieved, i'm honestly sorry- i'm sure some mispoken words probably did come out of my big fat mouth. sometimes i agreed with people's posts, but i want to make it clear that it was only the views on the particular subject i agreed with, not the attacks toward anybody. i am thankful to read everyone's views, no matter what they are. so i will not post to any more non-Tori touchy subjects. i love you all, peace, and good night. bryan sorry Administration, this is the last non-Tori post, i promise. it's just that some people were offended and i must make things right. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 18:35:01 -0800 From: Shirley Subject: Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori At 12:06 PM 12/2/97 -0600, Ellis, Melanie S wrote: Well what ended up happening was a war >between me and this friend about whether or not Tori just does "Kate >Bush rip-offs". >SO--what im asking is: > Whats your opinion on this? and > What Kate Bush should I listen to to be objective about this >whole thing? Whats Good? First, disclaimer: the following is simply what I have observed! none of this, unless explicitly stated, is my opinion! Okay, when Tori Amos came out with Little Earthquakes, the closest artist to her was Kate Bush. Since Kate was already an established and respected artist, Atlantic happily lumped Tori with Kate. Lots of marketing was done on the part of Atlantic to promote her as the next Kate. Kate is very famous in Britain, and Europe, which is where Tori got her "beginning." And, many Kate fans were happy with Tori. They thought of Tori as the next best thing since Kate is very reclusive; she never tours, interviews are rare. In many articles early in Tori's career, you will probably find them lumping the two women together. Tori's a lot more accessible to her audience than Kate. But, the two artists are different. Lyrical content, for one. Tori is more personal. And their fan bases are different. The extreme views are that: Some Kate fans think of Tori as an upstart. Some Tori fans probably don't think much of Kate at all. I don't know the exact demographic statistics, but Kate fans tend to be older. Tori fans, well, that's us :) And then there are those who adore both. Also, in the recent Rolling Stone issue of Women in Rock, Tori did mention Kate Bush as one of her musical influences, along with Joni Mitchell and others. And, I've already posted a Tori quote on Kate, so I won't mention that again I do NOT like Kate Bush...at least what ive heard, so I >got pretty hot under the collar. I used to not like Kate. I used to think Kate was bunk. When someone I knew told me that since I liked Tori, I would like Kate too, I thought they were full of shit. What brought the change of heart? Sitting down with one of her albums, and really listening. Now I think she's great. She did a lot for music. In the 70s to hear somebody like Kate Bush was truly revolutionary. There had been no artist like her then. Her influence in music can't be underestimated. For example, Sarah McLachlan said in a Pulse interview over summer that her first album Touch was heavily influenced by Kate, such as the "elevated" sounds. I don't think that my liking Kate has much to do with liking Tori. But they do sound eerily similar at times. My Lagan Love and Song for Eric, for example. I would never ever be able to tell the difference between the two vocals. And, Tori herself has admitted to this in a quote I already posted. And, you will find, in the most comprehensive site on Kate Bush on the internet, http://gratuitous.com/gaffa/ , called Gaffaweb, in the FAQ section a link to Tori Amos. I interpret that this is the Kate fans out there acknowledging the similarities between the two artists. Your question about good Kate music would probably be better received in rec-music-gaffa, the Kate Bush news group. I mentioned this earlier - I reccommend Hounds of Love as a first album, just because it is the album that made Kate big in the US. By the way, The Whole Story is a 1986 release, not 1995 (sorry for the earlier mistake) And, I don't know about objective. I really can't think of an album that would definitively lump Kate and Tori together, because I don't think that's possible. I know a lot of people are narrow minded and would say, for example: "Oh Fiona Apple and Tori Amos are one and the same because both have been raped and both play piano." I've actually heard this from several people. I don't think that makes it a legitimate reason to lump Fiona Apple and Tori Amos together. Musically, both are so different. So, some people might lump Kate and Tori together because they are both unique, wierd, and sound eerily alike at times. I don't think that is a legitimate reason to lump them together. I think it's grounds for comparison, but not to call them twins. Certainly Tori may have cited Kate as an influence in the Rolling Stone Magazine, but she also cited NiN, Joni Mitchell, Led Zeppelin. So, your friend calling Tori a Kate rip-off - well, Atlantic may have wanted that at the beginning, but I don't think that it's true at all. - -- Shirley i used to be a superhero no one could hurt me not even myself you are like a phone booth that i somehow stumbled into and now look at me i am just like everybody else - -Ani Difranco, Superhero ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:52:33 EST From: "poison me against the moon..." Subject: most memorable tori moment i would have to say it would be listening to tear in yr hand very recently. now, i have had this cd for five years, and i hadn't listened to it recently, so i put it on my discman when i was sitting in a long car ride. and i nearly broke out crying, after going through a bad breakup where the boy never gave me a sure reason as to why he did break up with me "i don't believe it's cause me and charles manson like the same ice cream"(or something to that effect...) i realised that this song, along with spacedog are my life gotta love her, jordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 22:43:52 -0500 From: Natasha Wong Subject: Re: Tori books for cheap, revisited >Okay, just a question for my fellow EWFs in South Florida... Hi babe! :) >Has anyone seen any Blockbuster Music that actually has any of the Tori >books? I went to the one in Kendall and they had nothing at all... >Although I know they usually had a fwe books in stock... Any help would >be appreciated... I'm particularly searching for the Images and Insights >book, and any of the books of sheet music... Thanks a million for any >help! :) They never had the sheet music there. I'd seen a few copies of the _Images & Insights_ there a few months ago, but when I went back ~2 weeks ago, there weren't any there. My guess is they sold out, unless they have some hiding in the stockroom. *natasha ******************************************************* Xians & republicans & nazis, oh my! - Big Gay Al, South Park Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous? - Hobbes, Calvin's sidekick ******************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 23:49:02 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Kate Bush vs. Tori Hi! Melanie inquired: > Whats your opinion on this? and Ah, the Tori-vs-Kate debate. At least in this forum, I'm pretty much guaranteed to be spared the Tori-bashing that inevitably results when this same topic comes up on Love-Hounds, the Kate Bush list. :} Kate Bush's influence on the current generation of women "alternative" (or whatever you want to call it) artists is undeniable. Just look at that Rolling Stone Women In Rock issue, and count the number of times her name was brought up as an influence. Even k.d. lang acknowledges a debt to her music! If not for her (and Joni Mitchell before her), the musical landscape would look *very* different (and I daresay, much bleaker) today. Her influence extends even beyond the music itself; her (one and only :P) tour in 1979 basically set the standard for shows of that type going forward. (I actually watched Madonna's HBO special a few years back, and I seriously thought I was watching Kate's _Live At Hammersmith Odeon_ video - -- whoever did the production design for that Madonna tour desperately needed to go look up the word "plagiarism" in the dictionary, but I digress.) However, I also firmly believe that Tori is one of the few female musical artists in her genre (whatever that is) who can honestly say she *wasn't* influenced by Kate. When asked to list her musical influences she never voluntarily brings up Kate's name, instead focusing on Led Zeppelin etc. She only discusses Kate if the interviewer specifically brings the conversation around in that direction. Just because Tori once owned a copy of _Hounds of Love_ doesn't mean she had to be influenced by Kate in any way. Unfortunately, when _LE_ first came out in the UK she was marketed using constant comparisons to Kate, because the folks at Atlantic figured they needed to put Tori's music into some sort of a context that would spark interest in it. (I first heard Tori's name mentioned on Love-Hounds, actually, and most of the die-hard Tori fans I know personally are also big Kate fans.) This led to the inevitable charges that Tori was just a Kate rip-off, which have proven irrefutable even in the face of direct quotes from Tori in which she states exactly the opposite. Even more unfortunate was the cover of _LE_, which shows Tori in a box. The American release of Kate's first album _The Kick Inside_ showed Kate in a box. Never mind that Cindy Palmano, who designed and shot the _LE_ cover is British, and had *no* clue about the Kate-in-a-box shot until it was brought up to her by an American interviewer (in every country but the US the cover of _The Kick Inside_ is a whimsical Kate-as-a-kite design, with no boxes in sight). To this day there are American Kate fans out there who would swear in a court of law that the _LE_ cover is unequivocal proof that Tori has just been ripping off Kate all along. Tori and Kate are both women who play the piano and sing. They each make incredibly beautiful music, and the world would be a sadder place without their art. The similarities end there. > What Kate Bush should I listen to to be objective about this >whole thing? Whats Good? _The Whole Story_ is a good place to start, if you can find a copy. It's a good sampling of the first 8 years of her career (though it's hard to believe that album is over 10 years old now). I'd also recommend her 1989 album _The Sensual World_, which is one of my faves. Kate's voice is an acquired taste, but that shouldn't be too much of a stretch for an ardent Tori fan. It's completely coincidental, but Tori can sometimes sound eerily like Kate (especially in the backing vox for "CALS" and "Doughnut Song"). If all of the stars are aligned correctly, 1998 should see a new album from Kate as well as from Tori. (In Kate's case, all I can say is, it's about friggin' time. ;) Is that by coincidence or design? *You* be the judge. ;> +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jessie L Ksanznak Subject: Re: Most memorable/chilling Tori moment? On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Shirley wrote: > What's your most memorable/chilling Tori moment? Well moment would have to be the first an so far only time I saw her on stage. When I saw her at the Lyric Opera House on Nov. 1, 1996. When the boring opening act was done and the curtains came up revealing Tori and the transparent scrim with the lights in it. It was awesome. (BTW, a scrim is a piece of material the hangsdown as a wall or the like on a stage) My favorite quote from a song is "Your mother shows up in anasty dress, It's your turn now to stand where i stand, everybody looking at you here take hold of my hand" from Silent All these Years that is because it reminds of (and got me through) the time when my boyfriend and I were having problems with each of our parents. (He's 6 years older than me and neither set of parents really liked it all that much) Jessie "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Marry comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it Be." - -"Let it Be" by Lennon/McCartney of the Fab Four Smile!!!!! :) http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/8616/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #342 *************************************