From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #310 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, November 4 1997 Volume 02 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: apple green ice-cream [AKTUG IREM ] Sorry!! [Laura ] Re: "poster child?" ["Karen, Goddess of the Groove" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:11:35 +0200 (EET) From: AKTUG IREM Subject: Re: apple green ice-cream On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 aliciau@ibm.net wrote: > I always thought the "these precious things, let them bleed, let them wash > away, let them break their hold over me" line was sort of saying that you > shouldn't get attached to precious things/people, because it's bad for you, > they end up controlling your life and it really hurts you, I've been there > (I am there right now, so...) so YOU have to let them go before THEY leave you. > > Alicia > > hello everybody, premiere... well i couldn`t hold myself from responding to this. yes, it is true that it hurts to get attached, but i believe everybody needs to hold onto someone in some period of his/her life. The important thing is to stand up as yourself as quickly as possible because the more time you spend attached the more you get attached and the greater the possiblity becomes of that person to hurt you-even without meaning to- (sorry if the grammer is wrong) And when you get hurt in a time like this you get hurt more than ever. But then again there must always be precious things and people in a person`s life. Otherwise you get no joy (tested with experience) And hurt is part of life... irem aktug - -Don`t be afraid to know who you are, you are much more than you have ever imagined. -MJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:42:51 -0300 From: Laura Subject: Sorry!! Ooops I forgot to erase the Precious things adress from my reply to Alicia. Sorry for the deleting time :) besos laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:11:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Karen, Goddess of the Groove" Subject: Re: "poster child?" Sorry it took me so long to respond... On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Lady Eorann wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Karen, Goddess of the Groove wrote: [snip] > > Well, I don't really consider denial a form of healing. Fiona is *young* > > in her outlook about things. I don't blame her for not wanting to talk > > about it all the time, since we just cannot be victims forever. But I > > really believe that she doesn't know how to handle these things (e.g. > > the rape, fame, etc.) and is as mentally/emotionally troubled as she makes > > herself out to be. > > I think Karen hits on a good point here. Fiona is really really young. > She just turned 20 last month, you know? IMO, I think she'll be lucky to > survive this rocket to fame that she's been on. Tori is 34. Fiona is 20. > Tori was raped when she was in her twenties. Fiona was 12. There's > totally different issues she has to deal with, like simply trying to grow > up AND heal this other wound as she does so. I'm not saying that it's > easier for Tori or anything, I just think that Tori was at a different > stage (and age) in her life when this horrible thing happened to her. > They are just totally different people, in my book. Very very good point, Yvette. I think Fiona has to have more time and life experience to heal. > > Give her some years and a major flop. Her attitude will change. > > Possibly. I kinda feel sorry for Fiona, having so much so fast (good and > bad stuff). The whole "poster girl" statement to me seemed like a young > kid being interviewed and saying something that is easily misconstrued. I It's not just her age. The press intentionally misconstrues interviews and misquotes celebs all the time. Not to say that the entire press corps is this way, but keep this in mind. > mean, I'm sure it's happened to all of us that we say one thing and it > doesn't come out right, and someone else totally misunderstands our point. > I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here, I hope I'm not wrong in > doing so. I think when anyone reads an article or sees an interview, they must realize that perhaps they are not getting the full context of the quote. - -Karen i know i can't be with you * karenjw@one.net i do what i have to do | ray of sunshine - sarah mclachlan * manager of self ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #310 *************************************