From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #295 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, October 21 1997 Volume 02 : Number 295 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Preachiness alert [Richard Handal ] Siren [Dennis Snelders ] tori and drugs [Andrew Smith ] Re: eclecticmusic.com [gerryjd ] Re: tori and drugs [WeirdyBoi@aol.com] FS : Limited Edition Cornflake Girl [Carter ] Re: Tori and Drugs ["Michael L. Whitehead" ] [none] [] Precious Things sample? [Lady Eorann ] Fwd: Alanis and Tori ["Ray Bailey" ] Tori and smoking and some other stuff... [Lady Eorann ] Memphian Toriphiles. ["Mr.Zebraa" ] Afro American Toriphiles ["Mr.Zebraa" ] The best Tori pages . . . ["Mr.Zebraa" ] Re: Afro American Toriphiles ["Mickey Sun" ] Re: DDI Boulder [Nadyne Mielke ] Hi again... ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Preachiness alert Yough, All: I came across this article below from the Boston Globe--one of the most respected newspapers in the U.S.--which says that Tori was on the Lilith Tour. Just states it in passing as if it was the most natural and obvious fact. Tori was not on the Lilith Tour, of course. (Unless we all missed something major like that!) Some people think I'm nuts for questioning everything and remaining skeptical. A respected paper such as the Globe has this--an *easily* checked fact--in one of their articles. If this kind of thing is screwed up by a major newspaper, how about items *less* easily checked? How about less reliable publications and other sources? (I have also since found another such bogus reference in a college paper, which I've included below the Boston Globe one.) Anyone who's been at an event covered by a newspaper or magazine and read the resulting article has likely had the reaction I've had *multiple* times, when I wondered where the reporter had been that day, since the story bore nearly no resemblance to the event *I* had attended. Around the time of Princess Diana's funeral, different newspapers had three different ages listed for her son Harry--11, 12, and 13. It was just a month before his birthday, so at least one of the papers had committed the regularly perpetrated sin of just using the year of someone's birth and doing quick arithmetic, ignoring the month. Beyond that type of mistake, how a paper could have gotten a *completely* wrong date of something so easily checked I don't know. Just a plain old mistake combined with laziness, I expect. This type of date error can be found in the official Tori bio All These Years. It says that Tori's grandfather "Poppa" Copeland died in January of 1973, when Tori was ten. (From memory, I think that's on page 14 near the top.) So, let's see--Tori was born in 1963, Poppa died in 1973--was Tori ten? No. Tori was not to turn ten until August of 1973. No major deal there, but there's something to be learned from it. I might not have noticed it myself had not Tori said she was 9 1/2 when she told the story of Frog On My Toe on her birthday last year. Her exact age at the time clearly means something to *her*. (I am aware of some relatively insignificant errors in the Collectibles book, too, but have not had time to compose a post about that book yet. My feelings about it and the bio are generally positive, BTW. Buy both but beware--there *are* errors.) Sorry to clutter your inboxes with this only tangentially Tori-related item, but the principle of healthy skepticism is one which will hold everyone in good stead in Online Toriville--let alone everywhere else. Just over the past weeks on Precious Things we've had a number of corrected bits of misinformation. How many errors went *un*corrected, and will continue being passed around and quoted as fact? I know *I* don't have time to untangle everything *I* see on the lists that's false, even though I could do more of that had I more time. I know others share that feeling because sometimes people write me and ask if I saw such and such, which was obviously incorrect. (And often wondering where someone had heard such garbage, let alone why they believed it and repeated it.) I can't be and don't want to be a self-appointed police type person. Those kinds of people are one of the main reasons I generally stay away from the newsgroup. And it's nearly impossible to kill a lousy rumor, especially on the internet. Always demand references. Ask "who, what, where, when, and why." Don't believe something simply because you saw it somewhere! This is why I always include the URL when I refer to something on the web. Anyone can go check what I'm quoting themselves and see that I didn't make up or misquote the entire thing, whatever it is. Never trust me! Everyone is wrong sometimes! If they don't cite references, unless you know them very well and trust them a lot in the area they're discussing, don't file it away as a fact. File it away as an unsubstantiated lead which might possibly lead you *to* a fact. And if someone is actually *trying* to mislead you and you don't question them carefully, you're a sitting duck. Beware of anyone with a possible agenda who might be out to sell you a bill of goods. Sometimes people will try to mislead you just for kicks. CNN interviewed someone for fifteen minutes live on the air who claimed to be an eyewitness to the Diana car accident before he intentionally blew his cover, showing them to be gullible fools wanting to believe they had a big scoop. I want to check on what people post from the web if it's important to me to trust what it was. Always give the URL, always *GIVE* *THE* *DATE* of any publication, always cite your sources--so *you* can be trusted. With all the potential information overload of items whizzing by, it's easy to look the other way and not take the time to question. A lot of misinformation ends up spinning around and around the internet and other media that way, and much of it could have been easily checked out before it was repeated as gospel. Context and provenance (where something came from) are everything. Enough sermon for today. I hate being preachy. Please forgive me. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ___________________________________________________________________ http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe/globehtml/284/Lilith_s_McLachlan_in_the_MIX.htm The Boston Globe OnlineBoston.com Boston Globe Online / Living | Arts Lilith's McLachlan in the MIX By Steve Morse, Globe Staff, 10/11/97 The surprise of the summer concert season was the Lilith Fair tour. The festival of all-female headliners was run by singer Sarah McLachlan and drew more than 700,000 people in 35 tour stops. While some festivals struggled, the Lilith Fair chalked up a spate of sold-out shows, including Great Woods in Mansfield. ''I made a lot of great friends and I can't wait to do it again next summer,'' says McLachlan, whose Lilith compatriots included the Indigo Girls, Tracy Chapman, Jewel, Paula Cole, Emmylou Harris, Tori Amos, and a rotating cast of other women who made this an extraordinary, empowering event. [...] This story ran on page C03 of the Boston Globe on 10/11/97. (c) Copyright 1997 Globe Newspaper Company. <>====<> <>====<> <>====<> <>====<> <>====<> http://www.centredaily.com/offcentre/features/082897f.htm Centre Daily Times State College, Pa. F E A T U R E S August 28, 1997 ______________________________________________________________________ Tour was a festival of fun By Bonnie Boden - State College junior Ever get the feeling you dont belong? Well that is how more than 500 guys must have felt at the Lilith Fair held Aug. 13, in Scranton on Montage Mountain. The Fair, started by Canadian singer Sarah McLachlan to protest Lollapaloozas predominantly male lineup, has a roster that totals 61 performers. Among them are McLachlan, Jewel, Tori Amos, The Indigo Girls, Shawn Colvin and Paula Cole. Liliths main goals are to glorify women in music and to raise money for breast cancer. [...] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:51:31 +0100 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: Siren hi! I've heard some people can't download their copy of Siren, so I encoded mine to Real Audio! The file isn't 2megs anymore but only 184 K and the quality is still fine! E-mail me if you want a copy of the real audio file. See ya Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:07:04 -0700 From: Andrew Smith Subject: tori and drugs > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 02:15:52 -0700 > From: rain > Subject: tori and drugs:? > hi i was just watching this tori video bootleg and she mentioned being > in amsterdam and (i think) smoking pot there, and i know she talked > about tripping off halucinogenic plant roots in new mexico before/during > the making of under the pink and maybe pele too...and shes talked about > smoking pot when she was 12...i was wondering if anyone knew for sure if > tori does drugs and what drugs she does or if she condones/condemns drug > use? I think I might have heard the thing you're talking about. I've got a tape of a concert from during the Little Earthquakes tour and she tells a joke about when she and a friend were arrested for possession of cannabis. Was that the one you heard, or was your's more recent? The only other thing I've heard about Tori's attitude to drugs was in a magazine interview during the Under The Pink tour (I think), which mentioned that she was trying to quit smoking and she asked friends travelling from Britain to American to "smuggle" nicotine patches, because apperently they're illegal in the States. I don't know if she actually quit or not (anybody know for sure?), but if she did then I can't imagine she'd be doing other drugs nowadays. Andy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:45:36 -0400 From: gerryjd Subject: Re: eclecticmusic.com Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo wrote: > > Hello my fellow EWF, > > I was just looking around on the web, and found the following video, at the > Eclecticmusic web site...does anyone know what exact performance this video > refers to? Does it have anything to do with the so-talked-about RAINN video?? > > Thanks... > > Cynthia > p.s Has anyone ordered from them? they have SEVERAL tori cd's on stock, and > wanted to know.. > > Number Artist Location From Length > Vid 1144 Amos, Tori New York , Ny 23jan97 Pro-1 45min I'm pretty sure its just the Lifetime selection of songs. I posted this site up about a week ago. Its not really worth $20. for that video. If anyones interested in a copy of the Lifetime performance, email me and I'll tell you what to do. Corey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:50:00 -0400 (EDT) From: WeirdyBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: tori and drugs In a message dated 97-10-20 05:56:48 EDT, andrew@amorph.demon.co.uk wrote: << The only other thing I've heard about Tori's attitude to drugs was in a magazine interview during the Under The Pink tour (I think), which mentioned that she was trying to quit smoking and she asked friends travelling from Britain to American to "smuggle" nicotine patches, because apperently they're illegal in the States. I don't know if she actually quit or not (anybody know for sure?), but if she did then I can't imagine she'd be doing other drugs nowadays. Andy. >> Do you know what magazing she said this in, and the date? Also... the statement made, "I can't imagine she'd be doing other drugs nowadays" totally baffles me. How can one say that based on this info? First of all, I was totally unaware that Tori ever smoked cigarettes (hence, the nicotine patches) in the first place, but i don't see how her trying to stop smoking those relates to the things we've been talking about here as "drugs," though nicotine is also a drug. During the tour last year I read many quotes she made from the stage (compiled on the Dent...), things she may or may not have said, actually, since most of the quotes are from the memories of audience members, but she did talk about hallucinogens and hash brownies with a smile :) (I know for a fact that she got some hash brownies on her birthday 1996 and was quite pleased). So, that's my bit o' info.... - -j'ason http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:40:26 +0100 (BST) From: Carter Subject: FS : Limited Edition Cornflake Girl Due to severe financial hardship, I'm offering my UK Limited Edition Cornflake Girl single for sale. It has "If 6 was 9", "Strange Fruit" and "Case of You". Bids in pounds sterling please, via email. Cheers Paul - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "It's like talking to half a hundredweight of condemned veal" - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- The World Of Grendel : http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du The World of Tori : http://toristuff.home.ml.org - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "The elite is by definition a minority" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:32:10 -0400 From: "Michael L. Whitehead" Subject: Re: Tori and Drugs Andy Smith says: >The only other thing I've heard about Tori's attitude to drugs was in a >magazine interview during the Under The Pink tour (I think), which mentioned >that she was trying to quit smoking and she asked friends travelling from >Britain to American to "smuggle" nicotine patches, because apperently >they're illegal in the States. I don't know if she actually quit or not >(anybody know for sure?), but if she did then I can't imagine she'd be doing >other drugs nowadays. I would like to read this interview, as I don't remember it. Can you tell us more about it Andy? Richard Handal, do you know which interview this is? Anyway, Tori certainly does not smoke these days. She has never been seen smoking at any of the shows and meet and greets I was at, and someone told me that asked Joel the security guard that question and he confirmed that she does not. In fact, there are a few stories about Tori being bothered by cigarette smoke and asking people not to (obviously does not apply to Caton though ;) Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Precious Things sample? Hi everyone! I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but... Saturday afternoon I was in a rather large local music store, and they were playing some techno-esque dance kind of music over their speakers. Now call me crazy, but I could've sworn that this song had a sampling of the vocals from Precious Things, the "yell" Tori does right after she sings "... let them break their hold on me..." and there's a sound of a whip, and then she does the "yell". Am I totally crazy or is this "yell" sampled in this song? the place was totally busy and I didn't have a chance to ask one of the employees what the song was. If anyone has any info, please let me know. I'm just really curious! Thanks a million in advance! Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:24:11 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Fwd: Alanis and Tori > I just found a kewl interview, that is pretty recent by >Alanis, she talked alot about Wade, and how they all handle >her stardom. And also her new house...things like that:) >(it was done after the release of jagged little pill live. >Here is just something she said in it about Tori Amos:) >This is probably true, as Morissette isn't into the trappings of celebrity >and is pretty bright. Amusingly, it turned out that stars had often tried >to come backstage at her concerts and she had refused to see them. (She >said this, I should add, in a way that didn't sound offensive.) I was >intrigued to know >which celebs had had their egos squashed in this way, but she didn't >elaborate. She told me who she had agreed to see, though--Tori Amos, of all >people-- and that she has been in correspondence with Annie Lennox,although >they have not met. "I'm very much into supporting female artists that I >like." >if you want to read the whole interview go here: >http://www.austin360.com/enter/music/news/oct/alanis.htm I just got this off of the Alanis list and just thought it might interest some of you... - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Tori and smoking and some other stuff... HI everyone. I had no idea that Tori smokes cigarettes (or used to). I've never heard or seen anything that would even insinuate this. I'm just curious if anyone knows this for a fact (i.e. seen her smoking or heard her refer to smoking). Personally I'm not a big fan of smoking, but of course that won't alter my opinion of Tori and her music! :) On another related subject that has been tossed around on the list recently... About Tori and drugs. I have never personally heard or seen any outright mention of drugs by Tori, although a good friend of mine swears that she said something about eating hallucinogenic mushrooms. The few references I've heard (now this is simply hear-say, *don't* take this as gospel or even truth... just stuff I've heard, and would like to have either confirmed or put to rest as ugly rumors), I've heard from different people, including a few posts on this list, that she has made reference to smoking pot and eating hallucinogenic roots/mushrooms. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but both of these are "natural" drugs, i.e., they appear rather naturally in nature and that's how they are consumed. (Unlike say crack or coke or heroin which are processed with goodness-knows-how-many other things before they reach whoever is going to take them) Anyway, my point is that the few drugs I've heard others say she's mentioned are "natural" *and* are known to have been used by shamans, medicine men, seers, holy people, etc. in what I suppose could be called "tribal" religions/spiritual experiences. Does anyone think that maybe this could have any relation at all to Tori's alleged use of these drugs? Just a thought, that's all... One more thing, about Tori's weight... Who really cares? We all know that Tori loves to eat, so I don't think we have much to worry about there. I think she's absolutely beautiful no matter what. Right after BfP came out, my friend and I noticed she'd gained some weight, and he joked that she was probably eating more as a certain measure of comfort after her breakup with Eric. You know, how women a lot of times do that, hit the ice cream or the box of chocolates... ;) And like she's said a few times, banging away on the piano is her only real form of exercise, and that would explain why at the end of the tour she appeared to have lost a few pounds. At any rate, so long as she's healthy and happy, it doesn't matter if she weighs 100 pounds or 300 pounds! :) Well, that's just my 2 cents on these topics of discussion. Anyone willing to agree, disagree, challenge my views? I'll be happy to hear what any of you has to say on these or other Tori-related topics! :) Hope to hear from you soon! Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: WeirdyBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: Precious Things sample? In a message dated 97-10-20 18:31:28 EDT, you write: << I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but... Saturday afternoon I was in a rather large local music store, and they were playing some techno-esque dance kind of music over their speakers. Now call me crazy, but I could've sworn that this song had a sampling of the vocals from Precious Things, the "yell" Tori does right after she sings "... let them break their hold on me..." and there's a sound of a whip, and then she does the "yell". Am I totally crazy or is this "yell" sampled in this song? the place was totally busy and I didn't have a chance to ask one of the employees what the song was. If anyone has any info, please let me know. I'm just really curious! Thanks a million in advance! >> You're not crazy, the CD is a compilation of dance/techno stuff called Urbal Beats and it has a song by Rabbit In the Moon called "O.B.E." which stands for Out of Body Experience and it contains samples from Tori's "Precious Things" plus some spoken vocals by Tori. - -j'ason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:02:39 -0500 From: Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo Subject: DDI Boulder Saludos! I guess this subject line has been recursive...anyhow, just one short question: is 49.95 a good price for DDI Boulder?? thanks, Cynthia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:09:28 -0500 From: "Mr.Zebraa" Subject: Memphian Toriphiles. I was wandering if there were any Toriphiles that lived in Memphis TN. I know of one and she works at Blockbuster Music. My mom talked to her and she said that she knew all that you can know about one person. She is small, blonde hair, kinda cute Welp, if there are any than E~mail me please. I would love to talk TORI! Hello Mr. Zebra, can I have your sweater? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:06:25 -0500 From: "Mr.Zebraa" Subject: Afro American Toriphiles I have never met an African American Toriphile so I was just wandering . . ARE THERE ANY OUT THERE!!! If there are then speak up. I myself am not black but I do respect all cultures so I was just wandering. Hell Mr. Zebra, can I have your sweater? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:03:47 -0500 From: "Mr.Zebraa" Subject: The best Tori pages . . . The top 5 Tori pages. 1}The Sent 2}Circles, again. 3}A Frog Named Jethro 4}Toriphoria 5}The force of Tori Amos Hello Mr. Zebra, can I have your sweater? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:57:09 -0700 From: "Mickey Sun" Subject: Re: Afro American Toriphiles I met someone who was half Black and half Japanese on the DDI tour last year. I am Chinese myself and I only know one other Asian Toriphile (who's Korean). I believe that Tori's genre of music appeals more certain "types" of people rather than certain "ethnicities". Mickey Sun University of California, Santa Cruz | mailto:micksun@cats.ucsc.edu PGP Fingerprint: E2F6 A7E7 EDFE 5A09 CE91 0D32 5ECC 74CD E14B A1F4 PGP Key at: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/ - -----Original Message----- From: Mr.Zebraa To: precious-things@smoe.org Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 7:33 PM Subject: Afro American Toriphiles >I have never met an African American Toriphile so I was just wandering . . >ARE THERE ANY OUT THERE!!! If there are then speak up. I myself am not >black but I do respect all cultures so I was just wandering. > >Hell Mr. Zebra, can I have your sweater? > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: DDI Boulder On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo wrote: > I guess this subject line has been recursive...anyhow, just one short question: > is 49.95 a good price for DDI Boulder?? That's about right. A 2CD bootleg should cost you somewheres between $45 and $60. :) /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:53:06 PDT From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Hi again... hey again! with all the discussion about Tori's weight i've been thinking about this that happened to me the other day... i went over a friend's house and took the tape where i have the MTV Unplugged recorded and a couple of friends and i sat to watch it... one of them hadn't seen the Unplugged before and at some part of the show he said something about Tori's face looking weird.. i then replied telling him that it must had been the camera lights on her face and he said "well, yeah, look at her face, it looks so skinny".. i couldn't agree with him because i actually thought she was beggining to grow a double chin! (again, not that that's a bad thing) what i've been thinking about is how much the definition and views when it comes to beauty, change from person to person... it's totally valid for someone to say they liked how she looked on pics like the RAINN one, the same way it is for another to say they loved the way she looked during the BFP promotional era... it's a FREE world! thank God it is! With nothing left to say, Giovanni Mantilla ********************** CORNFLAKE CITY: My Tori Amos Tribute http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1826/main.html Giovanni's ARTIST CENTRAL http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1826/personal.html ************************ PS. I'm glad that the discussion of the Fiona comment of Tori is settled, it's actually great Fiona posted that herself to the net... could the person that wrote the message tell me how to Join that Fiona List, i'm already in other 2, but none of them seems to be the one Fiona posted to... PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY! **************************** "Me and Jesus a few years back, Used to hang and he said, It's your choice babe just remember, I don't think you'll be back three days time, so you choose well..." ToRi AmOs "Me And A Gun" **************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #295 *************************************