From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #294 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, October 20 1997 Volume 02 : Number 294 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori in books and siren and hurt ["/meade ee" ] Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] siren lyrics [Ekkehard Morgenstern <101543.2024@compuserve.com>] Re: Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... [Richard Handal ] Speeking of the RAINN photo... ["Ashre, Ashre" ] fiona apple [agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby)] Tori and Drugs ["Michael L. Whitehead" ] Re: fiona apple [becky ] FIONA ONLY WANTS TO BE YOUR FRIEND [forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (DUST ] Re: tori and drugs:? [ChinaDust@aol.com] pauline struckey artwork ["/meade ee" ] a little tori story [bluegirl ] Tori Calendar [Carter ] Re: me too.. sorry :) [Alicia ] Re: me too.. sorry :) [Alicia ] eclecticmusic.com [Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo ] Re: eclecticmusic.com [Richard Handal ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:17:25 PDT From: "/meade ee" Subject: tori in books and siren and hurt greetings and salutations: first off, there are some books out there that mention tori. The first is the dictionary of rock and roll that has a brief mention, mostly about yktr, and brief discussions of quakes and pink. the making faces book talks all about makeup and how to apply it - it's wonderful, if you wear makeup at all, and that pic of tori is to die for. thirdly, gavin edwards (i think) wrote a new book in his series of misheard lyrics called 'when a man loves a walnut' and a piece of crucify is misheard. they quote the misheard lyric and the correct one in there. <: (his other two are 'got the whole world in his pants' and 'scuse me while i kiss this guy') i don't think it's been mentioned, but on the cover of the rainn cds, you can see tori has written 'siren' on her hand, as well as 'paper ice cream'. and yes, i knew that 'hurt' was by nin, and that it was an intro, but she changes the lyrics slightly every time. please, send me the lyrics? i don't have any of them (other than the copies of hurt i have). and if you have a copy of hurt, are you willing to do some trading? i have a fairly extensive list at http://list.home.ml.org if you want to check it out. and here's a question for all of you: i'm starting a little faerie page on my tori site. what would you like to see there? i'd really appreciate some help. peace love and a hard cock, /meade ********************************************* he says he rekons i'm a watercolour stain he says i run and then i run from him and then i run he didn't see me watching from the aeroplane he wiped a tear and then he threw away our apple seed tori ** father lucifer http://toriamos.home.ml.org ********************************************* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:42:35 PDT From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... Hi, this is my first post to the list, even thought i read it in a digest form! I just downloaded "Siren" and lemme tell you that it rules! this is sooooooooooooooo great.... tori's vocals sound so alike to what they do in "Precious Things" and the beat sounds like CALS, it's very good, especially in the "prissy girl" part... the beggining is weird... but i love it all! "cool kid calling for an ambulance"... cool! this is definitely the bomb! i pray it's be included in her new album... i just received Fiona's album "Tidal" which i had imported a couple of months ago-- i'm from south america so now you know--. I like Fiona a lot, but she has a long way to go if she wants to be in the same level Tori is,... but since she doesn't what people to tell her what she is... i'll shut up now... BTW.. i don't Fiona actually said that "poster girl" thing about Tori, i think the context was somehow changed to make her seem "weirder" to the public.. as if the SPIN article wasn't "weird" enough for the people.... but still, Fiona's soo cool... I've too noticed Tori constant weight changes from LE to BFP... sometimes she look very skinny (like in the LE era) but then she looks slightly "bigger" (like on MTV Unplugged or E!'s Fascinating Women Show), and suddenly she looks so skinny again(like in the mentioned SATY cover)... and i've always wondered if she gets on a diet once in a while... i personally don't think she's anorexic since we've heard so much about how she loves food... i hope she hasn't been anorexic because i've had eating disorders myself and they screw up your life... i'd love to hear her comments on this... i personally think she has either the perception to know when to diet or she has someone who takes care of her image... i dunno... you tell me... Ok, byebye Giovanni Mantilla PS. please don't email me asking me to send the Siren .WAV, my bandwidth is terrible, so it'd take hours to get to you... just for you to know and don't waste your time....... ;)) PS. next week i'm getting a lot of Tori CD singles i imported from Music Boulevard a week ago, i can't wait... but then again... you people should have them all... so no surprises! ******************** CORNFLAKE CITY >>> My Tori Amos Tribute Page http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1826/main.html Giovanni's ARTIST CENTRAL http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1826/personal.html ********************** "when i am king you will be first again the wall" Radiohead "Paranoic Android" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:25:02 -0400 (EDT) From: WeirdyBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori's weight... I've noticed Tori's weight changes, too... especially in the earlier months of 1996, she looked a little plump. But i think umm.. it seems like she doesn't obsess over weight, i can't count how many times i heard Tori tell girls at concerts to eat, and "boys, feed your girls." So i think she has some strong feelings about that. I have a quote here that goes along with this stuff: "I can get very physical, too [playing live]. Hopefully, when I go back on tour, it'll tone my body." -Tori Amos That was from a little interview in People magazine back in 1996, called "Talking with... Tori Amos." I can't believe i don't have the date, sorry, but i'm looking for it... I don't think it's something we should worry about, though, because Tori obviously eats :) - -j'ason http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... Giovanni Mantilla said: > Hi, this is my first post to the list... Welcome, Giovanni! > I've too noticed Tori constant weight changes from LE to BFP... > sometimes she look very skinny (like in the LE era) but then she looks > slightly "bigger" (like on MTV Unplugged or E!'s Fascinating Women > Show), and suddenly she looks so skinny again(like in the mentioned > SATY cover)... This is true. On the publicity tour for Pele when she was making some of the television appearances, she seemed to me to be busting out of her clothes, and had a bit of a double chin! I was shocked, even. She lost a few pounds before too far into the tour, though. If she isn't already, it won't be long before she'll have to struggle to stay on top of the battle of the bulge. She's definitely a total foodie, though, so she'd have to do a one-eighty if she's ever to become anorexic. Not likely. She seems to be in a pretty good place these days emotionally. Frankly, if she gets much more on top of herself, I'd be afraid the music might be even *more* intense. That scares the hell out of me. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:19:35 -0700 From: rain Subject: Re: Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... personally i think she looked way way WAY prettier and sexier and cuter when she was "busting out of her clothes, and had a bit of a double chin" i wish she looked like that all the time her ponch is really cute!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Richard Handal wrote: > > I've too noticed Tori constant weight changes from LE to BFP... > > sometimes she look very skinny (like in the LE era) but then she looks > > slightly "bigger" (like on MTV Unplugged or E!'s Fascinating Women > > Show), and suddenly she looks so skinny again(like in the mentioned > > SATY cover)... > > This is true. On the publicity tour for Pele when she was making some of > the television appearances, she seemed to me to be busting out of her > clothes, and had a bit of a double chin! I was shocked, even. She lost a > few pounds before too far into the tour, though. If she isn't already, it > won't be long before she'll have to struggle to stay on top of the battle > of the bulge. She's definitely a total foodie, though, so she'd have to do > a one-eighty if she's ever to become anorexic. Not likely. > > She seems to be in a pretty good place these days emotionally. Frankly, if > she gets much more on top of herself, I'd be afraid the music might be > even *more* intense. That scares the hell out of me. > > Be seeing you, > > Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:14:18 -0400 From: Ekkehard Morgenstern <101543.2024@compuserve.com> Subject: siren lyrics Hi folks, these are the lyrics of "Siren" as I perceived them. There may be some errors in it, but I think it comes pretty close. have a good time, ekki. - ----------- Siren - ----- you know you never gonna lie to you (I'm the only way) you know you never gonna lie to you (I'm the only way) and I lie San Arakuta your voodoo yeah and you say give know know too well know chill know she begs my siren oh no teenage flesh know chill know she begs my siren no no chill no I never was born for a prissy girl cool kid calling for an ambulance sweet child loves them in the side she's got me she's got a cellular handy almost brave almost a breaking end almost in i-in love been there love been there love - ----------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Siren, Fiona and Tori's weight... Rain said: > personally i think she looked way way WAY prettier and sexier and cuter > when she was "busting out of her clothes, and had a bit of a double > chin" i wish she looked like that all the time her ponch is really > cute!! I wouldn't normally get into my personal tastes in attractiveness, but the only few seconds I was ever turned on by her looks was once when she walked onto the stage of some show last year when she was heavier. It was like, "Uhhh..." with my jaw on the floor for a few seconds. So I basically agree with that. I didn't mean to be stating a value judgement when I said she had been busting out of her clothes. It's just a fact that she was. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 02:15:52 -0700 From: rain Subject: tori and drugs:? hi i was just watching this tori video bootleg and she mentioned being in amsterdam and (i think) smoking pot there, and i know she talked about tripping off halucinogenic plant roots in new mexico before/during the making of under the pink and maybe pele too...and shes talked about smoking pot when she was 12...i was wondering if anyone knew for sure if tori does drugs and what drugs she does or if she condones/condemns drug use? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:11:21 PDT From: "Ashre, Ashre" Subject: Speeking of the RAINN photo... Ok. Now that there is all this talk about the RAINN photo shoot, I was wondering what she has written all over her hands. Does any one know? I sat for an hour once trying to read it but the words were so small that I couldn't . Thanks ahead of time :) Don't loose your cracker jacks, Staci ()()()()()(Flashdance)()()()()()() "You go out there and the music starts and you begin to feel it. And your body starts to move... Sometimes I can't wait to get out there, just so I can disappear" ()()()()()(Jennifer Beals)()()()()() Ashre8@hotmail.com ~*-Staci-*~ the *proud* owner and creator of: _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Ashre *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6271 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:20:07 -0400 From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Subject: fiona apple ladies and gentlemen.... i am also on the fiona apple list. yesterday she sent a letter to the list, and here is what she had to say about tori: >Also, here is a letter I am sending to Spin (no explanation necessary). >Three things: >1) I do not think of Tori Amos as the "poster girl for rape"- I was merely >referring to the danger in both of us being honest about our personal >experience, when, as public figures, there is a tendency of the media to >label us and reduce our music to simply a reflection of one cultural ill. >-Fiona (i don't think i was supose to send this to this list, but it needed explanation.) - -rusty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ check out my web page! (updated 10/17/97) http://www.cantnot.org/rusty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:29:16 -0400 From: "Michael L. Whitehead" Subject: Tori and Drugs Late last year I posted to the RDT mailing list my thoughts on the subject of Tori and Drugs and then placed it on my web page. More importantly, I also included quite a few quotes from Tori on the subject after the posting. You can find that at: http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/drugs.html Hope that helps :) Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:23:47 -0400 From: becky Subject: Re: fiona apple Hi. I've been reading all of the responses about Fiona Apple's statement and I kind of figured that what she thought was the case. Thanks, Rusty. I'm not a big fan of the girl but how could she not respect Tori Amos for something that she, herself, had experienced? Speaking of Fiona leads me to think of the girl's emaciated looks and, wow, am I glad Tori isn't one of those types. People fluctuate weight, especially girls, and there isn't one picture that she doesn't look different in. I don't think she has a weight problem and, even if she did, it's probably momentary. And, since the discussion of Amsterdam and weed was brought up . . . there's a wonderful independent documentary entitled "Weed" that I saw last night. It was very educational. It was all about the annual convention and competion that they hold in Amsterdam every year regarding marijuana. See it. It's great. Perhaps Tori has attended it. becky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:57:07 -0500 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (DUST A BUNNY) Subject: FIONA ONLY WANTS TO BE YOUR FRIEND Hello everyone who I am sending this too, Here Fiona clarifies herself and what she said about Tori. Hm, does she deserve to have her name clean? I dunno, I am willing to forgive, but Tori is always the best. Take care. Buh-bye. Taken from FionaList@aol.com No. 261 Hi everyone - Iıve been meaning to write this for a while now. Thank you very much for the birthday book. For those of you who contributed, I need to tell you that that was the most wonderful thing you could have done for me, and it couldnıt have come at a better time - You should all know, that whatever it is that I and my music do for you, it can only be expressed so, because youıre there listening. Iım proud of being the reason why so many wonderful people gather right here, and get to know each other, but Iım aware that I need you to be what I want to be. (Thereıs no way to say that right.) Anyway I gotta explain the MTV speech, because itıs too annoying to be misunderstood, and if itıs written down, I wonıt have to talk about it anymore. Hereıs what happened: Sitting there in the audience, just before my award was announced, I had a crowd of people sitting around me, staring, awaiting my reaction to the outcome of the "contest". Now me, - I was sure I couldnıt win. For me MTV, seemed like the land of the cool - the popular peoplesı party, and I honestly didnıt expect to be accepted and appreciated by the very ones who, at that point, still intimidated me, you know? I mean, I remember what it was like being a freshman in highschool, and feeling so small and inadequate in the shadows of those beautiful "senior people". I remember actually believing that somehow their lives were better then mine - more fun, and more meaningful, because they had status, and I didnıt. Then, when I was a senior, I still thought the grass could be greener, only this time, it was the celebrities I was comparing myself to. I would watch these awards shows, watch them all walk down the red carpets, and think, - fuck - Iım nobody. Those people are special. Theyıre perfect. Everyone likes them. The get invited to parties - they get all the pretty clothes. I donıt have shit. I shop at Ross, dress for less, and I gotta pay a 10 buck cover charge to wait in the cold before anyone lets me in to their parties, and even then, Iım still just me. No one knows my name. No one cares what I think. How come some people are born to grace and perfection and gleeful reception wherever they arrive, and others are doomed to be shunned and shamed for their misfortune and even for their sacred individuality? I know a lot of people feel that way, thatıs why people got so annoyed with me for saying what I said. They figured "she's got it all, and she's complaining to us?" But you see, thatıs exactly the mentality I strive to overturn. I mean, you think Iıve got something that makes my life a fairytale - that makes my life enviable, because people know my name, Iım starting to make a lot of money? Well, I agree. I do. Iım lucky to be able to do the shit I do, and I love to do it, most of the time. But when I started with this whole music thing, I wanted to bring people together, and show them that all we are is what we feel. No oneıs got more than anyone else. Not really. The only thing anyone ever truly possesses, are the thoughts and feeling we use as fuel, to motivate ourselves into action. And the only things we can ever take real pride in, are the physical manifestations of all our pains and passions; the actions we control - the situations we create - the thoughts and feelings we provoke in one another. In that sense, weıre all the same, and thereıs no reason to ever envy or feel inferior to anyone no matter how much fame and money theyıve got, and thereıs no sense in even looking up to them, just because theyıve got those things. But this society is infatuated with celebrities. We look on hollywood with the eyes of desperate disciples. We copy their clothes their hair doıs and donıts, their attitudes, behavior and even the most trivial of characteristics we read about in magazines, like what comic books they read, and what soda they drink. We herald them as gods, as royalty, and when we compare ourselves to them, we feel small. When I won, I felt like a sellout. I felt that I deserved recognition, but that the recognition I was getting, was for the wrong reasons. I felt that now, in the blink of an eye, all of those people who didnıt give a fuck who I was, or what I thought, were now all at once, just humoring me, appeasing me, and not because of my talent, but instead because of the fact that somehow, with the help of my record company, and my make-up artist, my stylist, and my press, I had successfully created the illusion that I was perfect, and pretty, and rich, and therefore living a higher quality of life. I started to resent being there, because I felt like I was now one of those seniors, one of those "better than thou" celebrities, who made me feel so small before, and now, I was going to make people feel small. Iıd saved myself from the misfit status, but Iıd betrayed my own kind, by becoming a paper doll in order to be accepted. "It's stupid that Iım in this world" only referred to that fact that up on that stage, I didnıt feel cool. I didnıt feel like I had graduated into celebrity, I felt I snuck into that party, and because I was wearing nice clothes, and I was bearing a name that some people now recognized, somehow, I tricked them all into thinking I belonged. I thought they liked me for superficial reasons, and therefore, I resented being liked. (Just like when I was a junior in highschool, and guys started asking me out all of a sudden, I know it was because of my physical metamorphosis. -"I've always been a good person," I thought, and I hated their clothing for I knew it was due only to that fact over the summer I had grown breasts). - -Does anyone see what I mean? I know Iım a little oversensitive. Iım cynical, impulsive, and in many ways, very stupid. But I had this thought, and I had this feeling, and I said it. I put it into action. I provoked conversation. And that, I am proud of. Also, here is a letter I am sending to Spin (no explanation necessary). Three things: 1) I do not think of Tori Amos as the "poster girl for rape"- I was merely referring to the danger in both of us being honest about our personal experience, when, as public figures, there is a tendency of the media to label us and reduce our music to simply a reflection of one cultural ill. 2) I donıt want to die. If you knew me personally, youıd see that I was just being me - sarcastically cynical and deadpan. (Please - I was coming out of a photo shoot - and if you read the article, you know I consider suicide a tasty alternative to modeling.) 3) And finally, just to clarify, the "Criminal" video is not an erotic reference to my childhood assault - please. Itıs about the trouble in wielding the double edged sword of female sexuality. The thin line between sweet seduction and subversive manipulation. How come I feel like a "Bad, Bad girl," when all I did was have a night of fun? Just cause a girl gets her kicks in bed, donıt mean sheıs a victim, or a slut, or a whore. And if youıre dumb enough to think Iım a victim cuz I look "waifish", well then you probably canıt read this letter, so what can I say? One last thing. Remember everything you see in the media, is what the people with the big desks want you to see. Seek your own answers to the questions that are raised. Like I said before, "Go with yourself!" Fiona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:19:23 -0400 (EDT) From: ChinaDust@aol.com Subject: Re: tori and drugs:? there's this phenomenal Tori page that i found, which has a whole page dedicated to tori and her drug experience (this is tori talking, not a tabloid-bull session). it's Weirdyboi's, and i think his URL is "http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html" he ought to be the one telling you about it, but, i dunno, i do weird things. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:57:43 PDT From: "/meade ee" Subject: pauline struckey artwork for those of you who don't know pauline's artwork, she was the artist behind the beautiful illustrations in the bee sides songbook. she's also had many pieces in really deep thoughts. (speaking of - has there been a number 11 yet?) anyway, in order the continue to raise money for the SPCA (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals), Pauline is offering 2 different poster-sized prints of her Tori-inspired artwork. * Cost: $7 (U.S.) for one, $12 for the set of two. These prices INCLUDE surface mail shipping fees in the US and Canada - for delivery anywhere else, please inquire. For air mail, please add $1 to the order. * Prints are 11 3/4 inches by 16 inches and are printed on high quality poster paper. * Each print will be signed by the artist. If you're interested, or even if you just want to say hi, please email Pauline at bluecats@stn.net mikewhy has the prints posted on his page: http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/pauline1.gif and http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/pauline2.gif for the sake of the animals! /meade ********************************************* he says he rekons i'm a watercolour stain he says i run and then i run from him and then i run he didn't see me watching from the aeroplane he wiped a tear and then he threw away our apple seed tori ** father lucifer http://toriamos.home.ml.org ********************************************* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:56:58 -0500 From: bluegirl Subject: a little tori story a girl that i know here at school worked back stage at shows... she worked backstage when tori was here about a year ago. well, i was talking to her on friday and she was telling me all about how sweet tori is and how aurther spivak came with and was very protective of tori.. because tori is so chatty backstage. the help backstage is not allowed to go up and talk to the performers and usually the performers do not talk to them. but tori was different. she bounced up to this girl (literally) and started talking to her. i just thought this little bit of info might interest ppl on this list. *hugs* moonbeams and sprinklings of *^^**faerie dust**^^* ~marissa at-->mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu _____________________________ | hEllo EveRybOdy | | iT's ME. nOt anYone ElsE | | jUsT mE. HIII. | | *^*^^*^* | | ->delirium of the Endless<- | |_____________________________| _____________________________________________________________________________ +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= I go from day to day I know where the cupboards are I know where the car is parked I know he isn't you -T O R I A M O S- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= I think my body is as restless as my mind -A N I D I F R A N C O- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= when i am king you will be first against the wall with your opinions which are of no consequence at all huh what's that?? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambition makes you look very ugly -R A D I O H E A D- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:26:11 +0100 (BST) From: Carter Subject: Tori Calendar Could anyone in the UK who has seen the Tori 1998 Calendar near them in any stores please get in touch with me? I can't find it anywhere! Cheers Paul - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "It's like talking to half a hundredweight of condemned veal" - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- The World Of Grendel : http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du The World of Tori : http://toristuff.home.ml.org - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "The elite is by definition a minority" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:16:15 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: me too.. sorry :) ButterFliKip wrote: >hey everyone, I am yet another who cannot download Siren from the >website (I have a TERRIBLE line out..downloading is horrid for me) >so could someone also send it my way? >thanks! >toodles.. >kip* downloading is impossible for me too, so please, PLEASE, add me to the list of desperate Toriphiles who would like the song sent their way. thanks!!! - -alicia "tears on my pillow, of course they're not mine..." Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:16:15 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: me too.. sorry :) ButterFliKip wrote: >hey everyone, I am yet another who cannot download Siren from the >website (I have a TERRIBLE line out..downloading is horrid for me) >so could someone also send it my way? >thanks! >toodles.. >kip* downloading is impossible for me too, so please, PLEASE, add me to the list of desperate Toriphiles who would like the song sent their way. thanks!!! - -alicia "tears on my pillow, of course they're not mine..." Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:09:07 -0500 From: Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo Subject: eclecticmusic.com Hello my fellow EWF, I was just looking around on the web, and found the following video, at the Eclecticmusic web site...does anyone know what exact performance this video refers to? Does it have anything to do with the so-talked-about RAINN video?? Thanks... Cynthia p.s Has anyone ordered from them? they have SEVERAL tori cd's on stock, and wanted to know.. Number Artist Location From Length Vid 1144 Amos, Tori New York , Ny 23jan97 Pro-1 45min ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:42:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: eclecticmusic.com Cynthia said: > I was just looking around on the web, and found the following video, at > the Eclecticmusic web site...does anyone know what exact performance > this video refers to? [...] > Number Artist Location From Length > Vid 1144 Amos, Tori New York , Ny 23jan97 Pro-1 45min That is indeed the Concert for RAINN, but seeing as how their site lists nearly every known Tori bootleg concert videotape ever made, I'd say that this is just a pirated copy of the Lifetime Television special of that concert. > Does it have anything to do with the so-talked-about RAINN video?? Definitely not. > Thanks... Sure thing, Cynthia. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #294 *************************************