From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #293 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, October 19 1997 Volume 02 : Number 293 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: need help to find Siren [Dennis Snelders ] Re: Great Expectations? [Sara Hansen ] Re: "poster child?" [bluegirl ] Please help me! ["Josh Kostka" ] I AM GOING TO ALLURE YOU WITH MY SCENT [forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (D] me too.. sorry :) [ButterFliKip ] Re: "poster child?" [Richard Handal ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:41:32 +0100 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: Re: need help to find Siren Hi! I too have problems downloading the file! Can anyone send it to me too please? I'm dying for new Tori! thanks a lot, Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:24:24 -0500 From: Sara Hansen Subject: Re: Great Expectations? At 11:39 AM 10/17/97 +0930, you wrote: > > >On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, ~*jenn*~ wrote: > >> Hey...What exactly is the movie Great Expectations about? > >Um it's an adaption of the Charles Dickens novel isn't it. > >For a more detailed summary, mosey on over to IMDB they should have >details and release dates there. Ok yes I know I'm a lurker but I had to comment on this... Great Expectations *is* loosely based on the Dickens novel. Ethan Hawke is Pip and Gwyneth Paltrow will most likely be Estella. And of course Robert DeNiro will be the *VERY* frightening Provis. But anyhoo. I read this book for school last year and highly recommend it. It was really sad and really good. I can see Tori writing a song for it very easily. Maybe from Estella's point of view, hence the "Siren"? Who knows. But if you haven't read it, you should. It's not that long. Oh yeah and Ethan Hawke looks like Billy Corgan, so see the movie even if that's the only reason. :oP I can't wait to see Gattaca, hehe. Love, Sara/Mrs. Beck Hansen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:26:49 -0500 From: bluegirl Subject: Re: "poster child?" i heard that she had the flu during the RAINN promo shoot (from the one and only richard handal i think)... so i really do not think that her appearance is that of a victim.. just one of someone who isn't feeling too well :) At 07:02 PM 10/16/97 -0700, China wrote: >Okay, I'm looking at the RAINN Promo poster I have of Tori on my wall. >She's gorgeous in the picture (as usual) but she does look a little >sickly in it. Anorexic? Tweaker? That's what I think when I see the >picture. Her chest looks caved in and her arms are so skinny... >cheekbones prominent. > >I think the poster for RAINN reads poster girl for victim. Not rape, but >victim, yeah. I think maybe that's where Fiona might be coming from? I >don't know... I'm probably being stupid on this one > > *hugs* moonbeams and sprinklings of *^^**faerie dust**^^* ~marissa at-->mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu _____________________________ | hEllo EveRybOdy | | iT's ME. nOt anYone ElsE | | jUsT mE. HIII. | | *^*^^*^* | | ->delirium of the Endless<- | |_____________________________| _____________________________________________________________________________ +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= I go from day to day I know where the cupboards are I know where the car is parked I know he isn't you -T O R I A M O S- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= I think my body is as restless as my mind -A N I D I F R A N C O- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= when i am king you will be first against the wall with your opinions which are of no consequence at all huh what's that?? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambition makes you look very ugly -R A D I O H E A D- +=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=++=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:19:35 PDT From: "Josh Kostka" Subject: Please help me! Hi guys, I can't download the file either.... my Netscape crashed everytime I tried. Maybe one of the MANY people I gave the address to would find it their heart to send me the file, since I'm dying to hear it? Please? Thanks. Josh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:53:24 -0500 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (DUST A BUNNY) Subject: I AM GOING TO ALLURE YOU WITH MY SCENT Hello the ears with feet, I am just here to say in the October issue of Allure, there is a tiny picture of the ever so lovely Tori with the Making Faces story in which her bud, make-up artist Kevyn Aucoin. She really is gorgeous in the picture, though it is not as big as Lisa Marie Presley. That's just cheating. Well take care. Buh-bye. LORD OF THE SPAM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:57:14 -0700 From: ButterFliKip Subject: me too.. sorry :) hey everyone, I am yet another who cannot download Siren from the website (I have a TERRIBLE line out..downloading is horrid for me) so could someone also send it my way? thanks! toodles.. kip* cdorrell@erols.com - -- "Healing for me is being able to sit next to the butcher and say, 'Yes, I'm sitting next to the butcher now,' instead of saying 'There is no butcher.' Well, there definitely is one!" -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: "poster child?" Bluegirl/~marissa, on the topic of Tori lookly sickly in the RAINN poster promo shoot, said: > i heard that she had the flu during the RAINN promo shoot (from the one > and only richard handal i think)... Then she quoted China: > At 07:02 PM 10/16/97 -0700, China wrote: > >Okay, I'm looking at the RAINN Promo poster I have of Tori on my wall. > >She's gorgeous in the picture (as usual) but she does look a little > >sickly in it. Anorexic? Tweaker? That's what I think when I see the > >picture. Her chest looks caved in and her arms are so skinny... > >cheekbones prominent. Yes, some time ago I did mention that Tori likely had the flu around the time of that shoot. I just checked the cover of the RAINN/SATY single, which is the same photo. It seems to have been taken from a weird angle. It's shot looking down at Tori, giving it an unusual perspective. Combined with the angle at which she's holding her arms, one might think her arms were all skinny. [China, again] > >I think the poster for RAINN reads poster girl for victim. Not rape, but > >victim, yeah. I think maybe that's where Fiona might be coming from? It may speak that to some people. Fiona might be one of them. I think Fiona, like most people, sees mainly what she's expecting to find, anyway. I came across an interesting review/interview with Fiona. I wasn't gonna post it to any lists since it's so long, but here's about half of it. Anyone who wants the whole thing can go to the URL included, or I'll send it out in email for those with no easy web access. I think it may help explain where her head is on some of these issues. I hope we don't end up in a *long* discussion of Fiona and what she's said about Tori, but maybe folks need to talk more about all this. I'm rushing out the door, so I hope this makes *some* sense. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ___________________________________________________________________ http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/lofi/971017/971017_1543.shtml Music News Of The World -- Oct 17, 1997 -- Edited by Michael Goldberg Headlines: Oct 17, 1997 [...] Fiona Apple Talks The Talk [...] _________________________________________________________________ Fiona Apple Talks The Talk "But I'm so sick of people telling me what I am...," Apple told the audience. Photo by Jay Blakesberg. Young sultry songstress slams the critics, rocks the house. Addicted To Noise correspondent Jon Vena reports : NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. -- Fiona Apple was tired. She was frustrated, bitter and she was, most of all, talkative. At times, she was even waxing poetic. "They wanted me in a tattered dress," Fiona Apple explained to 1,300 fans gathered at New Jersey's State Theatre Tuesday, anxiously plowing through her words like a nervous actress. Apple, on the third leg of her tour in support of her debut Tidal, spent and created as much energy in talking to her audience Tuesday night as she did in singing to them. Either way she was speaking her mind, getting her message out and proving that she's much more than just another waif-like icon. When she spoke, her voice echoed through New Jersey's State Theatre like little earthquakes, the product of some jumpy, pent-up excitement or anger perhaps and probably something more. With a fidgety slant, she lanked in front of her microphone and ran through her day -- a long photo shoot in New York's Times Square, how she'd slept "about a minute and a half" the night before, and how the photographer asked her to wear torn clothing to the set and to pose by ripping the heads off of dolls. Then, quite suddenly, she stopped. For the woman who had spent the past 20 minutes in a serpentine, dangley dancing fit, to come to a complete halt as she did was frightening to watch. Her arms bobbed near her scant waist and her knees cocked, clumsily moving back and forth. She jerked her neck downwards, as if to excuse the veracity of her next sentence. "Because... I dunno," she reasoned. "That's exactly what people expect me to do." [...] While she couldn't compete for volume, Apple's raw energy never faltered. With a potential to redefine the word "songstress," her music covers a scarred, jagged landscape of trauma and her presence on stage holds true to that. Her music, a serene, eclectic blend of jazz and rock, is a complicated mix, that backs up her stories of psychiatric drugs and a broken home that she often refers to in interviews. Still, she doesn't embrace the sexual element of a Tori Amos or the angry power of an Alanis Morissette. To mainstream America, perhaps, that means she's just a bitch. Actually, Apple is simply her own brand of singer/ songwriter -- a vile scene of beauty that probably bites when provoked, but rarely depends on being a grrl in the interest of making striking sounds and powerful statements. Aside from her banter with the audience, she spent a good deal of time onstage talking about her critics. After explaining the circumstances of her afternoon photo shoot, she remarked that people would say "oh, no... tragedy... victim... waif." "But I'm so sick of people telling me what I am, and people thinking they know what I should be," she said afterwards. "Fuck them." "Just don't die young, Fiona," one guy yelled from the crowd, perhaps in reference to her remarks in this month's SPIN, where she said that she'd like to cut another album, do good things for humanity and die. "You know, I'm so glad you brought that up," she said. "People cannot take sarcasm. They think I mean every single thing I say. Take a joke. Lighten up." Closing with "The Child Is Gone," Apple once again showcased herself, with a vocal and piano performance that brought the capacity crowd to its feet. In a meet and greet afterwards, the young star seemed exhausted, but perked up at the sight of boyfriend David Blain, the acclaimed magician who appears alongside Apple in a photo accompanying the SPIN article. She happily signed autographs and took pictures. Visibly exhausted but edgy nevertheless, she at last retreated to an outside hallway. Through it all, there was no sign of a snotty temptress or waifish, ungrateful bitch anywhere to be found -- just a young, mixed up and incredibly talented woman, with a passion for music and the potential to make a difference. [Fri., Oct. 17, 1997, 9 a.m. PDT] Copyright (c) 1997 Addicted To Noise. All rights reserved. Please do not reprint entire Addicted To Noise news stories without written permission from Addicted To Noise. If you excerpt, rewrite, or in some way make use of portions of our news, attribute to: Addicted To Noise, the on-line rock & roll magazine - http://www.addict.com/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #293 *************************************