From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #288 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, October 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 288 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Web Rings... ["Kaj-Michael Lang" ] Well.. [Carter ] Two questions ["Lance Windom" ] Re: Two questions [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: New Tori CD [Nadyne Mielke ] tori video [=?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Fauchille ] Re: Well.. [Richard Handal ] Re: tori video [gerryjd ] Some info on Tori Vinyls. [Lady Eorann ] Re: Some info on Tori Vinyls [Lady Eorann ] Re: "poster child?" [Richard "Loquacious" Handal ] Re: "poster child?" ["Michael L. Whitehead" ] Re: Two questions ["Ray Bailey" ] Forgot your email... ["Ray Bailey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:16:34 +0200 From: "Kaj-Michael Lang" Subject: Re: Web Rings... >maybe, but nearly every torisite has a little something of everything. > >imho, we don't need more torirings or, for that matter, torisites. we do >need some sort of metaindex to the existing torisites. this wouldn't be a >list of sites with a description of their contents or ratings of websites. >i'm thinking, rather, of a subject index with links to the exact places in >whichever sites where things are located. > Thats very good idea but almost impossible to do... But I'm working on something that's should help you, a search engine that only searches Tori sites. It's not working at the moment, because of some upgrading on our SQL server software (I'm thinking about downgrading soon...) /--------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Kaj-Michael Lang | WWW: http://onion.sip.fi/~milang | | Kaskentie 5 C9 | E-Mail: milang@onion.sip.fi | | 20720 Turku | milang@sip.fi | | FINLAND | milang@infa.abo.fi | |-------------------------| klang@abo.fi | | GSM: +358-(0)40-5271058 | FTP: ftp://tori.sip.fi | \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:06:29 +0100 (BST) From: Carter Subject: Well.. The RAINN video is meant to be released today, and so I'm about to wander down into town and try and buy it (although where I live at the moment is hardly a huge urban conurbation...), but the problem is I'm at university and I don't have access to a video machine.. so if I do get it, I can tell you all about the packaging and what the cassette looks like but not a great deal else... *sob!!!* Paul - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "This is what you get when you mess with us" Radiohead, "Karma Police" - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- The World Of Grendel : http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du The World of Tori : http://toristuff.home.ml.org - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "The elite is by definition a minority" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:34:01 +0200 From: "Lance Windom" Subject: Two questions I know this has been asked about a zillion times, but please tell me, where I can order Tori videos from the net? The second question is about Meredith Brooks' CD. Is it any good? Anyone? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:22:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Two questions [Apologies to folks on PT and the tori-boot mailing list, I accidentially sent my reply there!] On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Lance Windom wrote: > I know this has been asked about a zillion times, but please tell me, where > I can order Tori videos from the net? Normally, I'd answer amazon.com, but I don't believe that they carry European videos. I konw they have it in the US format, but I don't believe they carry it in the format you need. Anyone overseas know of a good website to get this from? > The second question is about Meredith Brooks' CD. Is it any good? Anyone? No clue. Sorry. :( /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: New Tori CD On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 Lu101@aol.com wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had any NEW news about Tori's new CD that is > expected to be out in March of '98? And is she expecting to have a fallow up > concert after her CD comes out? Thanks! No one has, to my knowledge at least, heard anything. Keep an eye here and on Mikewhy's and Greghewritesletters's websites for any information. Everyone here is great about spreading word around when we hear anything. :) /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:52:04 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Fauchille Subject: tori video hey !! some news from France !!!! It's possible for us to buy NOW the tori video of NY by the FNAC url : www.fnac.fr the video tape will be released the 7 nov 1997, it costs 149 french francs, and it's reference is : 756780 7323. it's a PAL tape (be careful, we are in SECAM format in France). WWWAAAOOOUUU !!!!! - ------------------- Si fermo', e stava li' a guardare la terra partorire di fiori nuovi. Cosi', fu nido per colibri, il vento gl'insegno' i sapori di resina e di miele selvatico ; la pioggia lo bagno'... - ------------------- Stephan Fauchille Cemagref 3 bis quai Chauveau CP 220 69336 LYON CEDEX 09 Tel : 04.72.20.87.87 poste 4403 Fax : 04.78.47.78.75 E.Mail : fauchille@lyon.cemagref.fr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:50:52 +0000 From: Nina Miller Subject: Quick question Hi everyone, I have 2 Tori items that i would like to sell, but I'm not sure which mailing list i should be 'advertising' on. Can anyone help me out because i know that this is the wrong list for that sort of thing. Cheers, Nina *..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..* "If you were looking at me, I'd be a one-and-a-half E trip. * I'm not a five E trip, I'm not that interesting. * But I'm a one-and-a-half E, if it's cut good..." * *..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Well.. Paul Tweedy intoned, of the RAINN video released today in the U.K.: > ...if I do get it, I can tell you all about the packaging and what the > cassette looks like but not a great deal else... I'm sure most of us here would love a complete song list, and any other descriptive information from the packaging. Wonder if they bothered to *put* a complete song list on the box. Hmm. Even the actual running time would be nice! We look forward to a review once you find a place to watch it. :-) Thanks in advance. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:48:36 -0400 From: gerryjd Subject: Re: tori video I found this site that has the Tori RAINN video for sale, it says 45mins. All it is is the Lifetime Broadcast, I think. The video has been on this site for a least a month. Here's the URL http://www.eclecticmusic.com/ Its under New Releases. Corey http://www.angelfire.com/nh/toolfan/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:06:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Some info on Tori Vinyls. Hi everyone! I was just wondering if some of you can help me out here. I was just wondering if someone could give me some accurate information on the worth of two Tori vinyls: 1) UtP Limited Edition Pink Vinyl 2) BfP LImited Edition Clear Vinyl (double LP) Someone offered to sell these to my sister, UtP for $50 and BfP for $30. Do these prices sound reasonable? I keep getting the feeling he's trying to rip her off. Does anyone know the actual worth of these? Thanks a million in advance! Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:38:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Some info on Tori Vinyls. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Lady Eorann wrote: > I was just wondering if some of you can help me out here. I was just > wondering if someone could give me some accurate information on the worth > of two Tori vinyls: > 1) UtP Limited Edition Pink Vinyl > 2) BfP LImited Edition Clear Vinyl (double LP) > Someone offered to sell these to my sister, UtP for $50 and BfP for $30. > Do these prices sound reasonable? I keep getting the feeling he's trying > to rip her off. Does anyone know the actual worth of these? Thanks a > million in advance! *faint* Please please tell me you're joking. Please. The UtP says that it's limited edition, but I figure that it's limited edition in the same sense that the US Winter is limited edition. ;) Personally, I picked up a copy of this a couple of weeks ago at Tower Records for $8.99. I've seen it in several other places around here within the past month, and I never saw it for more than $15.99. The BfP is also easy to come by. The last time I saw it, it was $12.99. I'd highly recommend heading to your nearest music store that stocks vinyl and seeing if they can get ahold of these items for you. I certainly wouldn't pay more than $20 for each of them, and $50 for the UtP is just -waaaaaaaay- too much! /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:20:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Some info on Tori Vinyls Thanks everyone for the info. I thought those prices seemed unreasonable. I'll warn my sister that this jerk is trying to rip her off. What is wrong with people? Sheesh! Anyway, thanks a million for the information. I wasn't sure because I can't seem to find either LP anywhere around here, so I had nothing to compare it to. Thanks! :) Yvette. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:25:06 -0400 From: kytiara majere Subject: "poster child?" Hi all! Okay, pleeeease pardon me if I'm rechanting old news, but... a friend of mine just related to me that Fiona Apple once called Tori the "poster child for rape". She said that she read it in a recent Spin Magazine. please please please someone enlighten me. Is this true? ugh i hope not... ~~kyt_grrl - --------------------------------------------------------------- "getting off...getting off...while they're all downstairs... singing prayers...sing away... he's in my pumpkin PJ's..." --Tori Amos - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard "Loquacious" Handal Subject: Re: "poster child?" ~~kyt_grrl asked: > Hi all! Okay, pleeeease pardon me if I'm rechanting old news, but... a > friend of mine just related to me that Fiona Apple once called Tori the > "poster child for rape". She said that she read it in a recent Spin > Magazine. please please please someone enlighten me. Is this true? > ugh i hope not... It *is* true, but it struck me as one of those statements that is difficult to argue with, largely due to its overall meaninglessness. "Poster child for rape" can mean different things to different people, or, in my case, not much at all. I can't bother getting too upset over it. Fiona clearly has a lot of her own personal issues to deal with--not the least of which being that she still lives in the same apartment building where she was raped at the age of twelve. It's difficult for me not to give Fiona a lot of slack, benefit of the doubt, etc. I doubt that she and Tori couldn't sit down and work out any differences about this. Frankly, the ambiguousness of that Fiona quote makes it hard for me to grasp what, if any, those differences might be. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:28:05 -0400 From: ~*jenn*~ Subject: Re: "poster child?" kytiara majere wrote: > > friend of mine just related to me that Fiona Apple once called Tori the > "poster child for rape". I haven't heard this..but I *have* heard that Fiona Apple was herself raped...I don't know if that was true...it could be that people use the subject of rape to "skyrocket" to fame...I hope it isn't true myself, becuase I would lose *all* respect for Fiona as an artist and a person...Someone enlighten us all! :o) Love, ~*jenn*~ - -- ~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~ We are all Faeries living underneath a leaf on a lily pad~Tori ~*Come Dance in Jenn's Faerie Ring!*~ http://members.aol.com/jenn0312/tori.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:09:05 -0400 From: "Michael L. Whitehead" Subject: Re: "poster child?" Richard Handal said: >Fiona clearly has a lot of her own personal issues to deal with--not the >least of which being that she still lives in the same apartment building >where she was raped at the age of twelve. It's difficult for me not to >give Fiona a lot of slack, benefit of the doubt, etc. I doubt that she and >Tori couldn't sit down and work out any differences about this. Frankly, >the ambiguousness of that Fiona quote makes it hard for me to grasp what, >if any, those differences might be. The whole interview with Fiona that is in the November 97 Spin is depressing to me. She talks about being unhappy and that she knows she will die young, and truly dislikes some of the ways she is marketed, yet still freely takes part in it all. I am like Richard in that I give Fiona alot of slack, but I truly hope things change for her as she continues to mature. She seems really unhappy and it disturbs me. There does not seem to be a quest for wholeness like what you see with Tori. Sad... Dented Ears With Feet, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:03:04 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Two questions >I know this has been asked about a zillion times, but please tell me, where >I can order Tori videos from the net? >The second question is about Meredith Brooks' CD. Is it any good? Anyone? > Lance Well, I think Meredith Brooks' CD isn't that bad actually... I mean, she most certainly isn't Tori or anything, but she's okay in my book. Hope that helps ya. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:00:57 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Forgot your email... Sorry people, I forgot an email address, so this SHOULD be personal... David Woodson>> No, I haven't forgotten you!! :) Sorry it took so long... I got my CD about a week ago, but my checks just came in. I am putting it in the mail this week. Thanks a million, I love it!! - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #288 *************************************