From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #254 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, September 12 1997 Volume 02 : Number 254 Today's Subjects: ----------------- apollogize??? :) [Laloo ] Re: Trent [Testure161@aol.com] Re: Asherah, Muhammad, etc. [Richard Handal ] Re: confused toriphile ["Gucci Little Piggy" ] Re: So, What's She like? [FacethFire@aol.com] Re: Tori's Best Album? [aliciau@ibm.net] nine inch nails [aliciau@ibm.net] Spivak Entertainment [David Prestidge ] Re: Tori On Religion!! ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: nine inch nails ["Ashre, Ashre" ] Re: tori's beauty [~The Franchise~ CJ Marsicano ] Re: Mr Zebra [Astyanaxa@aol.com] Somewhere Over the Rainbow [Alexander Jay Timin ] Re: the abyss and a sesame street kiddie pool [horse ] Re: Trent [Jenn0312@aol.com] Re: nine inch nails [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] Re: Tori On Religion!! [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] Re: Tori On Religion!! ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Tori On Religion!! ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Somewhere Over the Rainbow [fuzzbox@world.std.com (Logynon Femidom Mi] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 02:49:46 -0300 From: Laloo Subject: apollogize??? :) Hi everyone, Debbie Wrote: >i apologize that this is so long, but there was no way i could cut this >short :) I don't find a reason to apollogize for such a great post. I am grateful that you all are sharing your experiences, it's great to read them and live them that way. um well, I hope I'll have my own story to share someday. For now I'll keep enjoying yours :) ok I'm going to bed again after getting my Tori-doze from your great stories. I have the flu so I better get going before I start raving.. BTW it's flu, not just hachoo (and has nothing to do with the CALS type of flu ;) ) Besos, Laura - ------------------------------------------------------------- Come join me in my dream... Margaritas with the Goddess / Margaritas con la Diosa http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/3373 - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Testure161@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent Im not trying to mean or anything but jenn wrote something about trent and courntey love having a relationship and thats not true at all, in fact trent only talked to courtney briefly back stage when Hole opened for NIN. Courtney love also spread some pretty bad rumors about trent and she also supposedly ruined the friendly relationship between Trent and Tori, unless of course they are on good terms again because its been a while since that mess happened. "ThE ChErRy StOnEs SaY iM gOInG tO Be a KaNgArOo WhEn I GrOw Up"-Delirium. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Asherah, Muhammad, etc. Richard Holmes said: > Great artists like Tori help me to better understand the feelings I > have, and what I share with others... she seems like she pulls these > images out of the deep dark earth, like a tree pulls up water, and puts > them out there for us to enjoy, understand, and contemplate. That's exactly the way I feel, too. This general discussion has come up recently in private mail I've done. I definitely think even *she* doesn't know all of what she's talking about quite as much as many fans might think. Bob Dylan is this way, too. And Tori herself has said that once she's written something, that she will sometimes discover things in the lyrics she didn't know were there at first. I think that goes to show how much she's able to tap into her subconscious. She's able to allow things to come out of her directly from deep inside, and then once it's out, she has to look at it just like the rest of us do to figure out much of it. Kinda like dream interpretation. That's not always the case, but regularly. This effect is true not only for the one-take songs that have come out of her in the studio, but, also, some of the most incredible music would just *pour* out from her in concert on the better nights. She seems to do it effortlessly. That's how the best art happens, I have to say. To make much sense of it at all one must be able to go along for the ride. That's the essence of transcendental art. There *is* a ride involved. I went to the first of my Dew Drop Inn concerts last year with a friend of mine who was a huge Deadhead--many years he would go on major excursions to see the Dead at least eight to sixteen times a year if he could get away. When that DDI show ended (Constitution Hall, April 26, 1996), he was expressing his approval when I said, "And it was psychedelic, even." He agreed. Tori can take one to a lot of different places. Maybe some of the best part of that is the sense that she's going there with us--not leading us as such, but as a fellow traveler. That's something I would always especially enjoy about the shows. Not only the ride, but enjoying the company during it. More than just Tori-- although she was on the ride with us--but the other concert goers. The sense of community. This online community is wonderful, too. We need to keep in mind the various things some of us have been through which might make them highly sensitized to perceived criticism or insult. We may be all that some others of us have. I know a number of people who plan to attend a hell of a lot of shows next tour. There are likely to be multiple small groups going from show to show together. I'm a bit concerned about how that might create problems for the next tour. The Dead got to the point where all the people in what was essentially a floating city with them from one tour stop to the next turned them into "bad news" wherever they went, and they came to be unwelcome in many towns. Deadheads would leave trash, make noise, and relieve themselves almost anywhere. A number of cities banned the Dead from playing in them. Obviously, Tori doesn't have that problem just yet. But I'm concerned for the direction this might go. That shared sense of community with the others attending the shows, as well as with the band/Tori is much of why the tour can become so compelling. Tori has no infrastructure to deal with it. The Dead had telephone hotlines for updates, a mail lottery system for fairly distributing tickets, and sent out advice on where to stay and eat while on the road. No coincidence that I stayed at more than one Motel 6 while seeing shows last year. Tori herself is TOTALLY focused on what *she* has to do with writing, recording, and promoting the music. Her people, though completely devoted to her, haven't seen the scenario I think may, to some degree, come to be played out. I wish someone or something would get their attention about this stuff. Another thing the Dead did, and continue to do, is to release *entire* concerts from their archives on CD. Part of the essence of getting "there" is making all the stops along the way. Tori wants her released material to be as near to perfect as possible. That's completely understandable. But to require that of Tori's concerts which might be released belies a lack of real comprehension of what makes her shows so wonderful in the first place. Unfortunately, I doubt that even Tori herself has enough control over her own material to the extent that she could cause a number of shows to be released. That's a shame, because as much as she's not likely to want to have a bunch of entire shows come out, her record companies are surely to be even less so inclined. It just isn't done--even though with minimal package design and remixing, the overhead for a series of concert releases could be kept relatively slight, such that even with the number of CDs sold there would be profit to be made. And I think Atlantic and eastwest would be shocked by the number of such concert CDs *would* be sold. And pigs could fly out my butt any minute. Oh, well. :-/ Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:42:32 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Re: confused toriphile On 10 Sep 97 at 17:34, Cliff Vest allegedly said: > I am a very very confused Toriphile. Everytime that I get on the > web, I am bombarded with little quotes from fellow Toriphiles, like: > > OH MY GOD YOUR A GUY TORI FREAK!!!!! WEIRD!!!!! > > or > > Only girls are supposed to like tori amos so get a life. Funny, in my two years on the Net and as a Tori webmaster I've never come across comments like that (or in real life; although that's cos I only know two other people who even know about Tori anyway). I get more reaction when they find out I'm English.. "Like, wow, have you, like, seen Tori's house?" > I think the REAL Toriphiles should speak outmore of their love of > TORI!!!!! Is this *possible* ? We're in hyperbole overdrive as it is! Paul. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Are you interested in | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du Swedish Cinema at all, Ted?" | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | The Wonder Stuff : 'Construction For The Modern Idiot' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I put so much petrol in my car the other day, I couldn't get in it! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:40:28 -0400 (EDT) From: FacethFire@aol.com Subject: Re: So, What's She like? In a message dated 97-09-11 00:24:42 EDT, you write: << precious-things@smoe.org >> luckily, i have had the privelige to meet tori TWICE. once in minneapolis (i was sooo excited i almost just started screaming) and once in davenport. but, it's like, when you meet her, there's so much you want to say to her, about how much she's influenced you and helped you through the hard times. butthen you meet her and you're like "uhhhhhhhhhh...what's my name again? she gave me a huge hug in minneapolis, and she signed my under the pink-more pink the B sides album. it was the best day of my life. i wanted to tell her we were both wearing blue jelly shoes, but, urm, i fergot... i was way too pumped. in davenport iowa, i saw her at the beginning of the show, but so many people had showed up to see her, i didn't get a chance to talk to her again-until AFTER the show. i dashed out of the theatre after "hey Jupiter" which was the encore. after waiting outside in 30 degree weather, she finally came out. after a while she finally got to ME. she touched my nose and said, "Eeek! you look like you're so COLD!!!!!!!!!!" then she gave me the sweetest smile. she said something about recognizing me, and i told her i was in minneapolis-she acts like you've been friends for years. then i told her how much it ruled and how much it meant to me that she played tear in your hand and father lucifer. and that is my story. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:01:40 GMT From: aliciau@ibm.net Subject: Re: Tori's Best Album? Ok, this subject may be a little old, but oh well... When my special somebody (who is un-likely to pay any attention to me so I'll stop dreaming) had his birthday party and I didn't get invited I went home, and didn't feel like listening to anything BUT "Mother". Especially because it has that part "and when I dance for him somebdy leave the light on just in case I like the dancing". But the next day I got the invitation so I was happy. But it's harder for me to want to listen to tori when I'm too happy, maybe "Happy Phantom" or "Mr. Zebra", her music slows me down and when you're happy you want to be active. But CALS is the only one that makes me happy when I'm depressed. Somebody said it depends on the mood you're in, and I think he/she is completely right. There are days in which I can't stand the real "Professional Widow" (most of the time) and when I'm frustrated I play it over and over. - -alicia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:51:03 GMT From: aliciau@ibm.net Subject: nine inch nails Hi, I think I heard somewhere that Tori had a friend in the band nine inch nails, but I'm not sure. And also because of the band's name ("with their nine inch nails an little fascist...") I thought they might know each other or be each other's fans. Does anybody know and would like to tell me? Thanks, - -alicia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:48:04 -0500 From: David Prestidge Subject: Spivak Entertainment Would anyone out there happen to know who would be the appropriate person to contact about booking Tori for a speaking engagement? I'm a student at the University of Texas at Austin and last night, after a fairly lengthy proposal, I convinced members of the Distinguished Speakers Committee (a student governing body responsible for funding campus lectures of the famous and infamous alike) to let me pursue a possible "Evening with Tori" next Spring. Please e-mail me privately at prestidge@mail.utexas.edu if you can help. Thanks Toriphiles! David Prestidge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:07:52 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! >Hi! I was just wondering if Tori believes in God, umm what her >thoughts are on religion?? etc....just curious.... > >Thanks... Umm... I'll tell you what I know, and if anyone wants to add/correct, go ahead. Tori was born into a religious family, and was brought up as such. Tori feels that, as a child, she was FORCED/pressured into being a Christian, and she thus rebelled against Christianity, gaining control over her life and the ability to decided for herself. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:10:31 PDT From: "Ashre, Ashre" Subject: Re: nine inch nails Alicia, Tori and Trent Reznor are friends. They have been friends for a while. She wrote the song Precious Things after she met him. "That's all I have to say... about that." Don't loose your cracker jacks, Staci ``````````vVv``````````vVv``````-ICICLE-``````vVv``````````vVv`````````` "Getting off, getting off, while there all downstairs" ```vVv``````````vVv`````````-TORI AMOS-`````````vVv``````````vVv``` Ashre8@hotmail.com ~*-Staci-*~ the *proud* owner and creator of: _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Ashre *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6271 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:59:07 -0400 From: ~The Franchise~ CJ Marsicano Subject: Re: tori's beauty Not to sound like a whatever or anything, but what about her butt? Or has there not been a decent picture of same for us to judge? *lol* Mark Biscomb, or so they say... wrote: > Tori's beauty??? How are we supposed to narrow it down to ONE single > feature? I'm going to say her entire head. She's got the lips, the EYES, > everything. I can't just say face though because of that oh so incredible > red hair of hers. (What can I say? I developed a preference for > redheads--interestingly enough--a little while after I really got into Tori!) > > Ahhh... too much to say about the Goddess. I mean... geez, she's > a GODDESS! (In MANY more ways than the physical form) > > Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- > Mark > ______________________________________________________________________________ > | increase | > |visiBIlity!| > ------------- > "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you > all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your > you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you > for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." > -Tori Amos -Tori Amos > > Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -- "The Franchise" CJ Marsicano Publisher & Editor-In-Chief The Outsider Edge Wrestling Newsletter "I run the show and you can kiss my ass!" - TLC, "Bad By Myself" "It's not arrogance, it's greatness!" - Shane Douglas "I might talk a lot of shit, but I back it up!" - Mase, "Been Around The World" "I'll rip your face off and wipe my ass with it!" - Insane Clown Posse, "Hocus Pocus" "When you gonna make up your mind, When you gonna love you as much as I do, ...'cause things are gonna change so fast" - Tori Amos, "Winter" "I brought you into this world, I can take you out!" - Bill Cosby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Astyanaxa@aol.com Subject: Re: Mr Zebra >>Guys! hey, what do you think of the song, MR. ZEBRA? I don't think I understand it fully and I just want your input<< that song is easily my favorite song on pele, because it bothered me so much in the beginning to figure out what it meant....it wasn't until a few weeks ago that i read somewhere (i think it was on a fellow-precious-things-person's web site) a tori quote on it....basically, i think the deal is is that it's a story about this chick rataouille (a french vegetable dish) strychinine (a poison)...ah....that's why i love tori so gosh darn much... sera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Jay Timin Subject: Somewhere Over the Rainbow I have 2 of these (see subject line) cds for sale or trade. They are not cd-r copies. Will sell for $15 each (or best offer) or trade for other high quality, clear-sound bootleg I don't have by Live, Dave Matthews, or Counting Crows. Please reply off the list. I've heard rumors about Tori recording a new album. Is this "for real" or just a product of wishful thinking? Thanks, Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:43:30 -0400 From: jlovoi@sps.edu (Senorita Monkeyshines) Subject: Meeting Tori Guys, thanx for being so forthright talking about meeting Tori. I didn't know she did that. Now I really want to go to a concert. I was really getting almost teary reading those testamonials. Thanx for sharing. ************************************************************** VISIT ME!!! www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 jlovoi@sps.edu "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" - --Tori Amos ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:07:33 -0500 From: David Subject: What are everyones Top 5 tori Web pages Hey My favorites are: 1.Peices of me... http://www.geocities.com/paris/metro/6346/index.html 2.Kissing Violets... http://members.aol.com/thabridge1/tori.html 3.The Dent.... http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.com 4.Back on the streets..... http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3745/tori.html 5.Tori.net http://www.tori.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I find that I have, now, more than I ever wanted" _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: horse Subject: Re: the abyss and a sesame street kiddie pool Toriphiles: My last post has stirred up a lot of good points towards people's outlooks towards music and its purpose in our lives...i wish my interface here could make use of hi-tech technology to snip out some of the things you guys have said...but i will try to remember... my first point is yes, to the man who likes def leppard...yes, i agree with you...there is a time and a place for everything...you can't always listen to tori...it's impossible...and to those of you who can always do it, damn, you are hardcore. this past week we as tori's fans have been discussing the utter importance of her work...the fact that it demonstrates a different, i'm inclined to believe, "higher" form of thinking...her inspiration to take life to a new level moves us all, and thats why we are so loyal... on the other hand, ok, so def leppard and hansen also have the ability to make the masses feel "happy" and "content"...but the question i pose to hansen is, by what means are you attempting to make me happy? by hiding from what i truly feel? by pretending to be happy like you guys are in the video? bullshit. hansen does not make me feel happy simply because i find them very demeaning to anyone who thinks critically about the music business...part of their inspiration as "artists" is the fact that they can pump out formulaic "rock" and bank off of it because the masses will not know any better...hansen are not the only little boys who can play instruments...however, they comply with the public's vision of the ideal cute group, and that makes them successful...tori knew this when she pumped out YKTR...she was trying to bank off an ideal "glam-metal" group, and she failed. the same with the spice girls and hell, even aerosmith...its so corporate and so articficial, that alone can't make me feel "happy", guilty maybe. hansen are nothing more than a new t-shirt design by nike. dominick # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # and if I'm wasting all your time, this time maybe you never learned to take and if I'm hanging on to your shade I guess I'm way beyond the pale :::::::::::: -Tori Amos # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:46:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenn0312@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! you know, i've always wondered that myself...i know she's into faeries (obviously) and perhaps even a little goddess worship (i.e., pele), but does she still believe in god? apparently she believes he exsists (for she talks/sings/writes about him quite frequently), but perhaps she just doesn't agree with him........anyone know of any tori quotes on this??? Torihugs, ~*jenn*~ ~*:~*:~*:~*~:*~:~*:~*:~*:~*~:*~:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:~*:~ *:~*:~* "they're pieces of me you've never seen" ~Tori~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: The next album, was: Re: Somewhere Over the Rainbow On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Alexander Jay Timin wrote: > I've heard rumors about Tori recording a new album. Is this "for real" or > just a product of wishful thinking? According to a short interview she did on the Atlanta radio station 99X a couple of weeks ago, she is working on material for the next album. {I haven't actually really listened to the tape yet, I just got it, thanks Jenn!} In addition, we have the soundtrack to "Great Expectations" coming out. She's contributing something to it, and we're all looking forward to our first does of new Tori in awhile. :) /nad {who -really- wants to hear that song she recorded with Michael Stipe!} *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:34:09 -0400 From: ~The Franchise~ CJ Marsicano Subject: Re: "precious things", Tori's beauty Josh Kostka wrote: > Uh... is there someone else named Josh here? 'Cause I didn't send that > long message that said "love, Josh" at the end. Why did this part of the post remind me of a scene in Clueless? *lmao* - -- "The Franchise" CJ Marsicano Publisher & Editor-In-Chief The Outsider Edge Wrestling Newsletter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:58:35 +0000 From: millennium Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame web site address Karen Whyte wrote: > I'm sure Tori will get one soon. Maybe they have a web site where you can > suggest it? The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame website is: www.rockhall.com .........lets all suggest a TORI expo at the hall. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:37:31 -0700 From: rain Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! Ray Bailey wrote: > > >Hi! I was just wondering if Tori believes in God, umm what her > >thoughts are on religion?? etc....just curious.... > > > >Thanks... > > well from what i understand, tori believes in a god but she dissagrees with many aspects of christianity. she feels it teaches people to devide themselves and that it forces woman to cut out their sexuality because you can only be pure if youre a virgin {virgin mary} she feels that although the virgin mary is a nice role model,its not right that she is the ONLY role model the church gives for woman because mary magdalene is a part of womanhood too. she also hates the fact that jesus supposedly couldnt have sex when he was on earth because it would "soil his dingy" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rain ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenn0312@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent well, thanks for that about trent and courtney! i had heard that from a friend..didn't know if it was true, but it you just never know... anyway... about the guy who said he got all those weird comments like "oh my god you're a guy tori amos fan??!!" what's up with that, huh? what does it matter what gender you are? we are all male and female in one form or another. it really irritates me how some chicks (and some guys, too, whatever...) think that just because you're a guy you can't understand tori..bleck..closed-mindedness sucks. and i think that's what tori's about, you know? getting away from labels and stuff...what does it matter? we're all bound together by tori. ja know? anywho..talk you to guys laters.. torihugs, ~*jenn*~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:45:44 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: nine inch nails On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 aliciau@ibm.net wrote: > Hi, > I think I heard somewhere that Tori had a friend in the band nine inch > nails, but I'm not sure. And also because of the band's name ("with their > nine inch nails an little fascist...") I thought they might know each other > or be each other's fans. > Does anybody know and would like to tell me? > Thanks, > > -alicia > Well since NIN is essentially Trent Reznor, you obviously thinking of him. In reference to the Tori / Trent realtionship, check out the various mails about Tori / Trent / Courtney Love / The Crow that have been floating around this week and it should serve to enlighten you. TTFN Michael Francis > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:31:44 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Sonia Arora wrote: > Hi! I was just wondering if Tori believes in God, umm what her > thoughts are on religion?? etc....just curious.... > > Thanks... > >It is my speculation (yes note the use of that words, this is by no means gospel, just what I've pieced together from quotes and stuff) that Tori has something of a pagan slant on Christianity. That is to say that she believes in things like the Goddess and spirits and faeries and gear. I now that's a very sweeping sorta generalisation, but my Tori knowledge is exactly vast. TTFN Michael Francis > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:44:48 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! >you know, i've always wondered that myself...i know she's into faeries >(obviously) and perhaps even a little goddess worship (i.e., pele), but does >she still believe in god? apparently she believes he exsists (for she >talks/sings/writes about him quite frequently), but perhaps she just doesn't >agree with him........anyone know of any tori quotes on this??? > >Torihugs, >~*jenn*~ "God sometimes you just don't come through..." Heh, there's a good one. I'm going to buy that book I read tomorrow nite... I can post some good stuff (quotes) on the topic Sat. nite, I hope. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:51:15 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Tori On Religion!! >Ray Bailey wrote: >> >> >Hi! I was just wondering if Tori believes in God, umm what her >> >thoughts are on religion?? etc....just curious.... >> > >> >Thanks... >> >> >well from what i understand, tori believes in a god but she dissagrees >with many aspects of christianity. she feels it teaches people to devide >themselves and that it forces woman to cut out their sexuality because >you can only be pure if youre a virgin {virgin mary} she feels that >although the virgin mary is a nice role model,its not right that she is >the ONLY role model the church gives for woman because mary magdalene is >a part of womanhood too. she also hates the fact that jesus supposedly >couldnt have sex when he was on earth because it would "soil his dingy" >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rain ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Correction... I responded to the post about but I didn't write it! *smile* But that's okay... No, really, I wouldn't have that question, cuz that's one of the things that me and Tori have in common is our religious beliefs. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Logynon Femidom Microgynon) Subject: Re: Somewhere Over the Rainbow > I have 2 of these (see subject line) cds for sale or trade. They are not > cd-r copies. Will sell for $15 each (or best offer) or trade for other > high quality, clear-sound bootleg I don't have by Live, Dave Matthews, or > Counting Crows. Please reply off the list. You should specify the tracks. There are 2 bootlegs called SOTR. One is live, one is a bunch of her remixes. For more details, see the bootleg discography at: www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/4370/tabdnew.html - -- Jason "I don't want to hear one more fucking word about Di!" Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "People are already calling Di 'This generation's Mother Teresa'. Wasn't Mother Teresa this generation's Mother Teresa???"- Howie Carr ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #254 *************************************