From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #252 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, September 10 1997 Volume 02 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: So, What's She like? [Richard Handal ] Re: tori's beauty; was Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [RAINN18@aol.com] re:"precious things", Tori's beauty ["Josh Kostka" ] Re: So, What's She like? [Nadyne Mielke ] Trent and acting [lellis@umr.edu] Re: So, What's She like? ["Unifund, Inc." ] YKTR again ["Ellis, Melanie S" ] Re: tori's beauty ["Ray Bailey" ] Well then... ["Ray Bailey" ] Well then... ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: So, What's She like? ["Ray Bailey" ] Josh [ANaStAsla@aol.com] Re: RAINN t-shirt ["Rill" ] Re: Re: So, What's She like? ["Rill" ] Re: Getting to know Tori [Lady Eorann ] Re: So, What's She like? [Lady Eorann ] Re: Trent and acting [Jenn0312@aol.com] Re: So, What's She like? [Lady Eorann ] confused toriphile [Cliff Vest ] Re: tori's beauty ["Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." ] Re: YKTR [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: Trent [Roguevouge@aol.com] Re: RAINN t-shirt [Roguevouge@aol.com] Re: Trent [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] Re: So, What's She like? [Deborah Nazarian ] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? [Ledzepguy@aol.com] Tori On Religion!! [Sonia Arora ] Re: tori's beauty ["Ray Bailey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:02:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: So, What's She like? Josh Kostka asked: > I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori > live - is she better on stage than on album? I can't even begin to address this right now. Seeing her live is powerful and amazing though, I'll say that much. And it's different every show. I hope you get to see her one day. > I mean, she really pours her soul into her songs and I was wondering if > maybe after she's been on tour for eleven months, the songs just get > boring for her or something. She was somewhat bored with most of the material last year by the end of the summer. I'm sure it happens less with her than with most performers though, and unless you had seen her a number of times it would surely not be easily perceptible. On any given night, she always put as much of herself into her performance as she had. > Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is > she nice and stuff? Well, just as someone who saw her before shows when she met with those of us waiting for her when she got to the venue in the afternoon before performing the soundcheck, I have to say she was always many times more nice and wonderful than she needed to be, and I say that not only from personal experience but from reading reports from many others as well as from speaking with a lot of people. The main thing that sticks in my mind about talking with her is how much she stares right into your eyes when you talk with her, and how if her best friend in the world was standing right behind you, she wouldn't look past you to her--she'd look right into your eyes the whole time until you were finished talking with her. It's a rare experience these days to have someone's undivided attention, let alone to be able to get that from a total stranger. No wonder I miss her so much. There are numerous stories of how she spent special time talking with people who'd been through something and needed to talk with her. Go over to Mike Whitehead's fabulous website and poke around for some of those stories he has gathered together over there. A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html And just start reading reviews from fans. There are many of them which deal with how they met her before and/or after the shows. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:32:07 -0400 (EDT) From: RAINN18@aol.com Subject: Re: tori's beauty; was Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. I think it is definately her eyes, and her voice......i think she has the greates voice it is so soothing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 06:54:20 PDT From: "Josh Kostka" Subject: re:"precious things", Tori's beauty Uh... is there someone else named Josh here? 'Cause I didn't send that long message that said "love, Josh" at the end. Tori's Eyes!!! That's what makes her special... Because they look at you and its it like she's staring right into your soul or something and she knows everything about you... BTW Ray, I didn't get that message you were talking about either. Josh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:17:30 -0500 From: "Unifund, Inc." Subject: Re: Nadyne and marissa From: horse > thats the way of the united s of a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do anything...people want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as they make their way home from work to watch a few hours of mindless television in order to fall asleep and wake up to do the very same thing again...the masses of this country, i'm inclined to believe are quite lazy and mindless and regard tori's music as "too deep" or "too weird"...it actually requires introspection and refelction upon your own life to appreciate her music.. I have to agree with you there. I had a boyfriend who didn't like Tori - thought she was too depressing. I think he just couldn't look inside of *himself* and therefor couldn't handle (or understand) some who did. He wasn't lazy, just scared - and I think a lot of other people are also. That's why I love the artists that I do - because they search for the deep parts of themselves when others would rather hide from them. Needless to say, that boyfriend and I did not last. No offense to Phish lovers - I don't mind their music - but that is the type of music he liked, something to listen to that he didn't really have to think about. Add Frank Zappa into that bunch (who I do really like) - but if that's all one is willing to expose themselves to... Gillian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ he is bored with me. my life is written on my skin, and he has read it before. he doesn't like an old story. especially one with his name in it. he used to read me with his fingers. he got tired of the ink that smudged his fingers. he is fed up with the binding that opens to the same page. the last page has been read. the mystery is over. I could replace the cover with a new picture, but it is still the same story. and he is bored with it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: So, What's She like? On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Ray Bailey wrote: [meeting Tori] > Wow, you've met Tori?? I would die to be in your shoes... every nite > I dream about having this awesome intellectual conversation with her, > and we become friends for life. I like to sing, and she let me sing > with > her (like she did Maynard from TOOL at the RAINN concert). That's > quite a dream... Don't get your hopes up too far! I got to meet her because I showed up for her show in Athens, GA, very early. I'd heard that if you got there around 4pm, you could get the chance to talk to her before she went in to her soundcheck. My husband and I waited at the back door of the venu (with about 6 other people), and sure enough, we got to meet her. You already read most of my exchange with her. She signed a copy of the Hey Jupiter single for my best friend, and my husband got her to sign our copy of the Winter single {but she spelled my name wrong :( }. Rich was a lot more loquacious than I was -- I just kinda stood there and stuttered. ;) /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:23 -0500 (CDT) From: lellis@umr.edu Subject: Trent and acting > Trent already has been in one film. It's called The Light of Day. He > has like a one or two scene cameo as a musician in a band in a bar. This > film is like from ages ago, before PHM and everything, so you could be > right about Trent being an aspiring actor. speaking of acting, does someone know how many acting gigs tori did? i heard she had a tiny part in a movie, but which one was it? are there any others? leah raisin girl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ birthname: leah ellis business grrrl & dj 573.341.9859 !y! kmnr 89.7 fm lellis@umr.edu hear me: 3pm-5pm wednesdays univ.of missouri- rolla talk to me: 573.341.4272 see me: www.umr.edu/~lellis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "boys are cute, but food is cuter." --tori amos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:44:58 -0500 From: "Unifund, Inc." Subject: Re: So, What's She like? I met Tori on the Under the Pink tour. A friend and I waited after a show - with tons of other people - in hopes of seeing her. Since there were a lot of people there (some were there, I think, simply because there was a crowd), I knew I would have to do something to get her attention. There was some guy there with a crown of sorts, and fairy wings (?). I started to shout "hey Tori, do you wanna see my fairy tattoo?". She said yes (and her manager seemed rather interested), and I got to shove everyone aside (I'm only joking) - I dragged my friend by the hand to make sure she got to meet Tori too. I unbuttoned my pants (since *that* is the only way to show it) and I displayed myself for Tori :-). My friend held her hand and asked her about a letter she had given to...who? I don't remember. I called after Tori and asked for a hug - she kissed me on the side of the cheek. All the way home my friend was like "I touched Tori's hand". I kept saying, "yeah, but I unbuttoned my pants for her". As a side note: I have felt guilty for asking Tori for a hug - I feel like I was saying "since I showed you my tattoo, can I get a hug". I think Tori puts so much into her shows - and here I was asking for more. Since then, I won't wait outside anymore. When I saw Ani Difranco, the "love bus" was parked outside, and I didn't wait. I would *love* to meet these people that I admire, but jeez...they give me so much already. I don't, of course, object to others doing though, I just can't anymore. Gillian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ he is bored with me. my life is written on my skin, and he has read it before. he doesn't like an old story. especially one with his name in it. he used to read me with his fingers. he got tired of the ink that smudged his fingers. he is fed up with the binding that opens to the same page. the last page has been read. the mystery is over. I could replace the cover with a new picture, but it is still the same story. and he is bored with it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:17:16 -0500 From: "Ellis, Melanie S" Subject: YKTR again Since I brought up the YKTR thing, I have a question: I remember reading that on one song (I dont have the CD with me to see which song) Tori wasnt the one who played the piano! Does this seem odd to anyone else? Is she not the piano diva and always had been??? Or did they use some "stock footage" type of track for that song? I dont know anything about production, but that seems weird. Also, her voice sounds hacked on some songs. Do you suppose that that was intentional? To me its hard to tell. Just wondering what you guys think. Daisy-melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:39:48 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: tori's beauty RAINN wrote- >I think it is definately her eyes, and her voice......i think she has the >greates voice it is so soothing Oh yeah, her pretty eyes... the are sooo pretty with her gorgeous red hair. Another good trait marked up to Tori. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:26:46 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Well then... >Uh... is there someone else named Josh here? 'Cause I didn't send that >long message that said "love, Josh" at the end. I wouldn't be suprised! *grin* >Tori's Eyes!!! That's what makes her special... Because they look at you >and its it like she's staring right into your soul or something and she >knows everything about you... And they look so PRETTY with her beautiful hair... *swoon* >BTW Ray, I didn't get that message you were talking about either. Huh, wonder what's up with that? Anyways, I said something along the lines that I wasn't really a depressed individual any more... My life has been making turns for the better strangely enough. I hope that I didn't come off that way cuz I'm not. However... I do know what it's like to be there. And it's really cool cuz we're both 16 and so far a lot of the things you've posted I have *totally* agreed with... >Josh - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:26:51 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Well then... >Uh... is there someone else named Josh here? 'Cause I didn't send that >long message that said "love, Josh" at the end. I wouldn't be suprised! *grin* >Tori's Eyes!!! That's what makes her special... Because they look at you >and its it like she's staring right into your soul or something and she >knows everything about you... And they look so PRETTY with her beautiful hair... *swoon* >BTW Ray, I didn't get that message you were talking about either. Huh, wonder what's up with that? Anyways, I said something along the lines that I wasn't really a depressed individual any more... My life has been making turns for the better strangely enough. I hope that I didn't come off that way cuz I'm not. However... I do know what it's like to be there. And it's really cool cuz we're both 16 and so far a lot of the things you've posted I have *totally* agreed with... >Josh - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:31:25 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: So, What's She like? >On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Ray Bailey wrote: > >[meeting Tori] > >> Wow, you've met Tori?? I would die to be in your shoes... every nite >> I dream about having this awesome intellectual conversation with her, >> and we become friends for life. I like to sing, and she let me sing >> with >> her (like she did Maynard from TOOL at the RAINN concert). That's >> quite a dream... > >Don't get your hopes up too far! I got to meet her because I showed up >for her show in Athens, GA, very early. I'd heard that if you got there >around 4pm, you could get the chance to talk to her before she went in to >her soundcheck. My husband and I waited at the back door of the venu >(with about 6 other people), and sure enough, we got to meet her. You >already read most of my exchange with her. She signed a copy of the Hey >Jupiter single for my best friend, and my husband got her to sign our >copy of the Winter single {but she spelled my name wrong :( }. Rich was >a lot more loquacious than I was -- I just kinda stood there and >stuttered. ;) > >/nad Heck, you don't think I'd go that far? I'd wait there starting at friggin' 7am! Since I don't think I've told any of you exactly why I feel this way, I guess I will now... I have always felt, from the moment I first heard Tori, that we were kindred spirits. Tori grew up in a religious home, and has grown to resent the "being forced" into Christianity as she was. SAME HERE. Tori kinda rebelled and became her own person. SAME HERE. Tori is very open about sexuality and related matters. SAME HERE. Tori is outspoken, and plays/does/IS what she wants. SAME HERE. I could go on and on, but I've already spammed you guys enough today. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: ANaStAsla@aol.com Subject: Josh Here is an intelligent suggestion for everyone that is getting confused by there being more than one Josh on the list.....look at our screen names Love, JOSH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:52:55 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: RAINN t-shirt I oirdered one and it took about 3 1/2 weeks. Raven - --- - -Life is like a messy room. >I was wondering how long it takes for the RAINN t-shirt to come once you >order it. Has anyone ordered one. Because I sent away for one in the >last week of July and I still haven't got it. Just wondering how many >weeks it takes so I know when to expect it. Any info would be >appriciated. thanks > >Corey > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:17:12 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Re: So, What's She like? I met her also. I got there early before her DDI show in Dallas. She signed my CD's. My boyfriend and I talked to her for a while and I told her how things where going on my album that I'm working on currently. We also saw her after the show. She was really nice. She made sure that everyone got a chance to talk to her. We gave her a hug and got our pic with her and she went on to the next person. :) Raven - --- - -Life is like a messy room. >I met Tori on the Under the Pink tour. A friend and I waited after a show - >with tons of other people - in hopes of seeing her. Since there were a lot >of people there (some were there, I think, simply because there was a >crowd), I knew I would have to do something to get her attention. There was >some guy there with a crown of sorts, and fairy wings (?). I started to >shout "hey Tori, do you wanna see my fairy tattoo?". She said yes (and her >manager seemed rather interested), and I got to shove everyone aside (I'm >only joking) - I dragged my friend by the hand to make sure she got to meet >Tori too. I unbuttoned my pants (since *that* is the only way to show it) >and I displayed myself for Tori :-). My friend held her hand and asked her >about a letter she had given to...who? I don't remember. I called after >Tori and asked for a hug - she kissed me on the side of the cheek. All the >way home my friend was like "I touched Tori's hand". I kept saying, "yeah, >but I unbuttoned my pants for her". As a side note: I have felt guilty for >asking Tori for a hug - I feel like I was saying "since I showed you my >tattoo, can I get a hug". I think Tori puts so much into her shows - and >here I was asking for more. Since then, I won't wait outside anymore. When >I saw Ani Difranco, the "love bus" was parked outside, and I didn't wait. I >would *love* to meet these people that I admire, but jeez...they give me so >much already. I don't, of course, object to others doing though, I just >can't anymore. > >Gillian > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >he is bored with me. >my life is written on my skin, >and he has read it before. >he doesn't like an old story. >especially one with his name in it. > >he used to read me with his fingers. >he got tired of the ink that smudged his fingers. >he is fed up with the binding that opens to the same page. > >the last page has been read. >the mystery is over. >I could replace the cover with a new picture, >but it is still the same story. >and he is bored with it. > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Getting to know Tori On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > I wouldn't say "easy" exactly. i have only seen the UK Talula in my neck > > of the woods. :( > > I said "relatively"! They're much easier to come by than, say, the UK > SATY single, and shouldn't go for more than $12 or so. Okay, i understand now... :) > "Easy to find" as compared to the UK CfG single, that is. :) These > places have stocked More Pink in the past. I can't speak for their > current selection, nor can I speak for their service, as I've never done > business with any of 'em. But check 'em out and see if you can find one: > > http://www.abcds.com > http://www.cdnow.com > http://www.cdconnection.com Thanks, /nad! I'll check them out. :) I've tried cdconnection once a few months back and they were out, but the others i didn't know about. Thanks! > I happened to stumble across my copy of More Pink purely by accident a > little bit after it came out at a small music store in Flint, MI. Lucky girl! :) Bright Blessings and Lollipops! LE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:01:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: So, What's She like? On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Josh Kostka wrote: > Hi, there, Hello. :) > > I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori > live - is she better > on stage than on album? I suppose it's only natural that things might get boring for her, playing the songs over and over, but as far as listening to/watching her in concert, it is simply amazing. For me it was like a religious experience, almost. The way she plays the songs in concert is almost always totally different from the CDs, and that brings new meaning to the song(s), for me anyway. > Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is > she nice and stuff? Oh, my goodness! She is the nicest "celebrity" around. And she has the softest hands in the world! (that is, that I've ever felt!) She takes the time to ask your name, and listens attentively to you even if you're struggling with the words. I started off okay when I met her, I said hi, asked how she was (she had been sick that night), and after a few minutes I realized that I was chatting with TORI AMOS! Then I started stammering about how her music had reached to places of me no one has ever touched, etc. Babbling incoherently, really. She smiled, and gave me a hug, held me tight... I almost burst into tears just from how gentle she was... *sigh* I have never quite recovered from meeting her... it still amazes me and makes me soo happy even now, almost a year later! :) hope every one of you gets that same chance that I did (and I hope you don't babble foolishly like me!). It really is an experience. :) Bright Blessings and Lollipops! LE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenn0312@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent and acting i know tori was in a kellogg's just right commercial... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:06:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: So, What's She like? On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Richard Handal wrote: > The main thing that sticks in my mind about talking with her is how much > she stares right into your eyes when you talk with her, Oh, dear, yes. That was something that just went to the heart of me (and also what made me realize that I was talking to Tori and made me start babbling). I can still remember the look in her eyes as I spoke, and the way she looked at me (like a friend or even my mother) when I was near tears and she took me into her arms... *sigh* Bright Blessings and Lollipops! LE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:34:18 -0500 From: Cliff Vest Subject: confused toriphile I am a very very confused Toriphile. Everytime that I get on the web, I am bombarded with little quotes from fellow Toriphiles, like: OH MY GOD YOUR A GUY TORI FREAK!!!!! WEIRD!!!!! or Only girls are supposed to like tori amos so get a life. What I think is that they are more confused than I am really. I know that some tori songs might be a little mean towards guys, and yet I still enjot it. I think the REAL Toriphiles should speak outmore of their love of TORI!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Re: tori's beauty Tori's beauty??? How are we supposed to narrow it down to ONE single feature? I'm going to say her entire head. She's got the lips, the EYES, everything. I can't just say face though because of that oh so incredible red hair of hers. (What can I say? I developed a preference for redheads--interestingly enough--a little while after I really got into Tori!) Ahhh... too much to say about the Goddess. I mean... geez, she's a GODDESS! (In MANY more ways than the physical form) Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visiBIlity!| ------------- "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:40:38 -0400 From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Subject: Yahoo internet magazine Oct 97 FYI - tori is featured on pages 67 and 76 of the new issue of Yahoo. she is #3 on "the web top 40" list. - -rusty my web page has moved, got a new look, and has been updated! http://www.cantnot.org/rusty you just got an email from rusty, agentorange2@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Testure161@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent Im not trying to mean or anything but jenn wrote something about trent and courntey love having a relationship and thats not true at all, in fact trent only talked to courtney briefly back stage when Hole opened for NIN. Courtney love also spread some pretty bad rumors about trent and she also supposedly ruined the friendly relationship between Trent and Tori, unless of course they are on good terms again because its been a while since that mess happened. "ThE ChErRy StOnEs SaY iM gOInG tO Be a KaNgArOo WhEn I GrOw Up"-Delirium. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:28:25 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Re: Trent and acting >i know tori was in a kellogg's just right commercial... and wouldn't it be really cool to have it on tape! And that to a collect... oh boy... :) I wish...... - --Raven's Call - --Life is like a messy room - --Emotions are the one true languange in which we as humans fail to understand. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:16:52 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: YKTR also sprach Ellis, Melanie S: >I just got my copy of Y Kant Tori read (bootleg), and everyone told me >that it was sooooooooo awful...but it isn't THAT bad! that's pretty much everyone's reaction after hearing it for the first time, especially if they heard about it from toriadores or read about it in interviews with tori before actually hearing it. there seems to be a significant amount of propaganda about this record floating about...some of which, i suspect, may be of tori's own doing. >One thing I DONT understand is: why do people insist on categorizing >YKTR as "semi-heavy metal" and "hard rock" ????? an interesting question, which i've never fully understood. this i think there are two things going on here. first, around the time of _little earthquakes_, tori regularly said it was "just a heavy metal album" (paraphrased) and she seemed somewhat embarrassed by it existence. i offer up the conjecture (and this is only a conjecture -- i have no proof) that she described it as heavy metal to discourage folks from tracking it down. of course, reverse psychology is a wonderful thing -- it seemed like every other day, someone found a copy of yktr in a wal-mart or caldor's cutout bin. i couldn't even begin to count the number of "i found yktr for $3!" posts to rdt five years ago. second, i recall reading an interview long ago where tori indicated that their live sound had been much harder than what is on the album. believing the record company folks who felt that tori could be the next big thing, she allowed their songs to be softened on the record. also, if i'm not mistaken, the band had broken up by the time the record was mixed down and released, so that may have been a factor in what the final product sounded like. dave woodson adds: >I think perhaps a lot of the people writing the articles describing it >this way have never actually listened to it very true -- many music writers incorporate what they read in previous articles into their own. it's quite likely that some of the times the album has been described as "heavy metal" are due to lazy research. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Roguevouge@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent In a message dated 97-09-10 06:30:31 EDT, Jenn0312@aol.com writes: << romantically linked. i, however, put not much faith in this. trent, i have heard, has had a long-time thing for courtney love, and as we all know, tori has recently broken up with eric rosse, and i think that we all know how painful that was for her. so...that's all i have to say about that.. torihugs, ~*jenn*~ >> I heard the Trent cant stand Courtney and that tori and trent havent talked for awhile and that courtney did stuff to keep to keep them from hanging out even as friends cause she had this big thing for Trent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Roguevouge@aol.com Subject: Re: RAINN t-shirt In a message dated 97-09-10 01:49:18 EDT, gerryjd@nh.ultranet.com (gerryjd) writes: << I was wondering how long it takes for the RAINN t-shirt to come once you order it. Has anyone ordered one. Because I sent away for one in the last week of July and I still haven't got it. Just wondering how many weeks it takes so I know when to expect it. Any info would be appriciated. thanks Corey >> I ordered one i finally got it after a couple months it takes AWHILE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:45:31 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Trent Anyone wanting to get some more news on Trent and the Crow shoud go and check out http://news.nin.net. They have quite a lengthy article about it there. TTFN Michael Francis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:28:51 -0700 From: Deborah Nazarian Subject: Re: So, What's She like? Josh Kostka wrote: > > Hi, there, > > I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori > live - is she better > on stage than on album? > > Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is > she nice and stuff? > i apologize that this is so long, but there was no way i could cut this short :) Tori is one of the most genuine and caring people that i have ever met. While she was touring in Los Angeles, CA during the Dew Drop Inn Tour, i had the dream-like opportunity to meet and talk to her. It's so wierd because as i'm writing this, all of the feelings i had that day rush back to me all too real. A local radio station in L.A. (KSCA FM 101.9) was giving a sort of "private listening party" for about 15 Toriphiles to meet Tori and get to hear her play live for us at a local hotel. i had never won anything before in my life, but i just kept trying and trying and by some miracle i was given the chance to meet her. Everyone in the room was sort of sitting on a platform where the piano was and anxiously awaiting Tori's arrival. When she came in--i can't explain it, it was breath taking. she went up to each person and met them personally, asking if they had gone to see her yet (she had had 2 other shows at the Greek that weekend). She was so genuine, like the person that she was talking to at the time was the only one that mattered in the world even though there was a whole room waiting to speak to her. When she got to me, she shook my hand and looked into my eyes, and i felt like i was going to faint. i got tears in my eyes and could barely speak, but managed to tell her that she was the first concert i had ever gone to, and she was really surprised by this. She smiled one of her beautiful smiles, and really listened, you know, not just heard, but listened. She even remembered my name later when i asked her to sign a picture for me. it was just amazing how genuine and kind she is. she then played some songs on the piano, and this had to be the most surreal part of it, because there was Tori and there i was and i could SEE her fingers moving so gracefully on the keys and the way she moved and it was just surreal... one of the main things that stands out in my mind most about that day, though, was when Tori was speaking to another Toriphile who began crying when she was talking to Tori and kept saying how Tori's music had truly helped her get through so many difficult times in her life and how grateful she was to her. and you know, Tori began to cry with this woman too and had to wipe tears away from her own face. most people in the room began to get teary too. i share this with you all because i think that woman's words rings so true for so many of us all, and it seems Tori understands this and feels this all too well... i apologize again for the length of this, but just wanted to share it with all of you, because it's an experience that i hold so close to my heart and will never forget :) take care, debbie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:59:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ledzepguy@aol.com Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? << I'm wondeirng how everybody came across Tori's wonderful music. >> My friend online told me she was wonderful, so i went into a music store and looked at her first album, little earthquakes. I took one look at her and the penis-mushrooms on the back and I immediately bought the CD. (BTW would someone explain the penis-mushrooms?!?!!) Anyway, Tori is the most gorgeous creature on this planet I have ever seen, and I am seriously considering bludgeoning Trent Reznor with a ballpoint pen so I can propose to tori. I don't know if they are dating, but he poses some serious threats and competition to my relationship with Tori. Is everyone satisfied with my plan. I'm snappy aren't i? p.s. my favorite tori album/song(s): Boys for Pele. This is by far the most complex, beautiful, creative, intelligent, etcetc. album. My second favorite is LE, and even though UTP is good, (it was my second album, I listened in order) I still like BfP much better. I LOVE bloodroses, inthespringtimeofhisvoodoo <--my alltime favorite song, Horses is cool, i love Pro.Widow, and i like all the other songs. I also like zeppelin. and other stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonia Arora Subject: Tori On Religion!! Hi! I was just wondering if Tori believes in God, umm what her thoughts are on religion?? etc....just curious.... Thanks... _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:26:42 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: tori's beauty >Tori's beauty??? How are we supposed to narrow it down to ONE single >feature? I'm going to say her entire head. She's got the lips, the EYES, >everything. I can't just say face though because of that oh so incredible >red hair of hers. (What can I say? I developed a preference for >redheads--interestingly enough--a little while after I really got into Tori!) > > Ahhh... too much to say about the Goddess. I mean... geez, she's >a GODDESS! (In MANY more ways than the physical form) > > Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- > Mark Umm, you don't hafta narrow it down to one thing at all... just what in your mind contributes the MOST. I agree... her whole body is a work of art (how is did she get to model Calvin?)! Ah, she's so hot. If I were a girl, I would want to look like her. *laff* - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #252 *************************************