From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #251 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, September 10 1997 Volume 02 : Number 251 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Trent [Jenn0312@aol.com] So, What's She like? ["Josh Kostka" ] Re: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [Jenn0312@aol.com] Hmm... technical difficulties? ["Ray Bailey" ] "Precious Things" [ANaStAsla@aol.com] Re: Deepness!! ["Gucci Little Piggy" ] Re : A Case of You (was Re: Favorites) and web page ["Gucci Little Piggy"] Re: YKTR [rain ] Why we listen [Mike Richman ] Re: So, What's She like? ["Somer" ] tori & trent [Testure161@aol.com] Re: So, What's She like? [Bob Moyer ] YKTR and love vs infatuation [Dave Woodson ] tori's beauty; was Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [bluegirl ] Re: So, What's She like? [Nadyne Mielke ] best album [AnaisBleu@aol.com] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? ["Yanos Aldron" ] Re: Tori calendar [agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby)] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? [agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shel] Re: YKTR [AnaisBleu@aol.com] Re: tori's beauty; ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: So, What's She like? ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Tori calendar ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: tori's beauty; [Bob Moyer ] Trent and acting [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:19:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenn0312@aol.com Subject: Re: Trent in regards to trent and tori - about 9 months or so ago i was watching the gossip show on e! (yes, i know you cannot put too much faith in these gossip shows..i am just spreading what i have heard...) and one of the "gossip gurus" on it said that trent reznor, the king of angst, and tori amos, the queen of pain, were "finally" romantically linked. i, however, put not much faith in this. trent, i have heard, has had a long-time thing for courtney love, and as we all know, tori has recently broken up with eric rosse, and i think that we all know how painful that was for her. so...that's all i have to say about that.. torihugs, ~*jenn*~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:08:11 PDT From: "Josh Kostka" Subject: So, What's She like? Hi, there, I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori live - is she better on stage than on album? I mean, she really pours her soul into her songs and I was wondering if maybe after she's been on tour for eleven months, the songs just get boring for her or something. Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is she nice and stuff? And, just for my general information, is it Taboo to talk about Neil Gaiman here or something? Just wondering, 'cause whenever he's mentioned, people apologize for talking about the guy. That's it for now.... Josh Kostka OzymandiaZ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:03:48 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. >okay, >I apologize then. >See, so far since I've joined on here, a lot of "rude" behavior has been posted. >I thought that you were being rude. >I apologize if that was not your intent. >Yes, I am sensitive sometimes, hey, I came from an abusive home--sometimes I can't >help it. >Sorry. >-Raven > >(yes, this has nothing to do with Tori but I had to apologize. > >--- >-Life is like a messy room. > > >>>Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. >> >>I was the one who posted about this person saying Tori's hair was permed. >>I've tried to stay out of this, but...I *was not* attacking you. I was just >>stating that *I* thought it wasn't permed. I think you're being a bit >>sensitive - and reacted strongly to what I wrote - and then someone else >>reacted strongly to what you wrote - and so-on, and so-forth. This is >>getting ridiculous. I don't even know why *I'm* getting involved - I guess >>just to let you know that I was not jumping down your throat. >> >>Gillian Okay, in the words of our beloved Tori... "I believe in peace, bitch." Can't we just get over this hair bit and move on? It was really nothing but a big misunderstanding, so if you guys'll stop addressing the issue, and just let things cool down, it'll all be over. That simple. Besides (bee-sides; I made a funny!), life is too short to waste it all on being right or proving wrong... just forget about it, let it flow let it flow let it flow... Okay, enough of my blabbering *wink* I have a question for the list... What is it about Tori that makes her so so very attractive? (pretty, sexy, whatever) I know what makes her music attractive... what about her? It should be cool to see some of the opinions on this. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:09:29 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? > I discovered tori about five years ago when I started hearing >crucify on the radio. I completely fell in love with it and wanted to hear >more songs by her so I went to buy crucify the single just to see if I > liked the other songs, but something told me to just by LE instead. >Well, I am glad I did cause I was just so amazed and loved every >single song, and I cant say that about alot of other cds!! Geez... about the same here! > Putting the Damage On has to be one of the best songs on that cd >and in general. My favorite beesides are honey... >Angie Wow, neato... "Putting the Damage On" is a very very cool song... It was that song that was one of my first faves from BFP... along with "Blood Roses", "Father Lucifer", "Caught A Lite Sneeze", and "Muhammad My Friend." I also liked "Talula", but my favorite version of that song is the Tornado version... that kicks! Anyways... I will go now :) - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jenn0312@aol.com Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. jesus christ, who cares? permed hair, not permed hair, what does it matter? i've tried not to get involved in this whole hair thing, but i just can't stand seeing these posts anymore! this is just a tiny bit childish..can't we just all listen to SATY and make up? ~*jenn*~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:27:47 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Hmm... technical difficulties? It doesn't seem like I'm receiving all the mail that I'm sending... did anyone see the post about me not really being depressed any more, that that is really a past part of my life? I think it was yesterday or the day before... Anyhow, Josh didn't say anything about it, so... I was wondering. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:46:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ANaStAsla@aol.com Subject: "Precious Things" Here is how I found Tori.......... I was in a play (The Miracle Worker) in March of '96 and everyone that was in it was always talking about some chick singer named Tori Amos..well this was of no importance to me....I heard them listening to her.....not really listening myself....cos I was more worried about when they played Alanis Morrisette(my past fave)...so then one of the nights of the play this guy ,whom I really hate, came in yelling that he had tickets to Tori's concert in Nashville..and people were pissed that he got some tickets to her for a second time(he got to see her in Knoxville a while earlier)....well..I heard all about her...but didn't take notice of who she was......then when school rolled back around again next fall...I entered high school..and everyone always had CDs and stuff with them...and one day that same dude from the play brought in a bag FULL of stuff by Tori....the first comment I ever made about her to him was that she sure loved to hike her leg up on stuff...and he said yeah...and then went his way downing on me like a piece of freshman shit......well.....finally in November....I recieved my monthly magazine from the Columbia House Music Club....and I noticed that the featured Alternative artist of the month was Tori Amos...by that time I had heard so many good things..even though it was from the people I truly didn't..and still don't like......so I ordered the CD along with a few others.......everyday I waited in anticipation for my CDs....esp. the magnificant Tori....well I finally got the CDs about three weeks later and I popped in Tori...and one note hooked me on her forever.....the single note played on the song "Beauty Queen"...the note was felt like it was spilling my life out all over the place....the note was like god..the devil...and everything all rolled into one...it was inspiring...one single note that anyone could have played...yet this note was played with beauty and grace....then rolled over the stereo my favorite song of Tori's yet...."Horses"....to let you all know how hooked on it was...I played hooky from school for 2 days just to listen to tori...and never got past the first track..after about a week of Horses..I moved on....then in December I recieved another Columbia House magazine..and I ordered UTP,LE, and Hey Jupiter.....I waited and waited for the CDs for soo long that I was anguishing for them to land on my door step....on christmas eve I was at my family's christmas party...and my cousin took me and my two other cousins with us to go driving(smoking) and we got on the subject of a guy she liked..who was the infamous actor who loved Tori....and I then I started rambling about Tori....and she said that there was one song that the guy had played for her...which was soooooo beautiful...she said that it was about white horses and stuff....well..that sounded sooo peaceful to me........then that night when we got home lo' and beho' there were my CDs laying in my mail box....i ran inside and lit some candles and started playing the Hey Jupiter EP and listened to it for about an hour...then I put in UTP and the song that stuck with me was Bells For Her...but when I put in the LE CD and listened for a while...there was a song about it snowing outside...and it made me feel wonderful..esp since it was Christmas time...then the words began to ring in my ears....."When you gonna love you as much as I do....All the white horses are still in bed...." and I was shocked...this was the song that my cousin had just got done telling me about........since then i never listened to the radio again...occasionally MTV,but only hoping that they'll play Tori...life has been grand ever since...and Tori has shown my TRUE self...or should I say she has taught me how to look in the mirror instead of through the mirror....thanx for listening to my story on how I found tori.........now on to my precious things.....my fave B-Side song is "Honey" it means soooo much to me...I was enthused when I finally found out...what I think....tori was singing about.....that's a good topic....everyone respond back to what your interpretation of "Honey" is........ and my favorite album song is a tie between "Winter" and the first impression song.."Horses" My fave album??? thats a question that is impossible for me to answer.............. Love, Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:08:14 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Re: Deepness!! On 9 Sep 97 at 13:14, horse allegedly said: yeah man! > > to respond to something nadyne was commenting on regarding the spice > girls and mariah carey (well, you could even include hansen)...thats > not anybody's fault in particular, thats the way of the united s of > a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do > anything...people want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as > they make their way home from work to watch a few hours of mindless > television in order to fall asleep and wake up to do the very same > thing again... Some nice points in this post, but it's also true that all music shouldn't have to be riddled with emotion, deep scars and turmoil, just to be seen as "valid" or whatever. I'm a big Def Leppard fan, precisely because their music is big, light, daft and throwaway. I wouldn't pretend for a second that their music is going to change people in the way Tori's music does, though. However, Hanson's single (that one that was No1 over here) brought smiles to a lot of faces in a lot of clubs, so I reckon it's alright in that respect. Good pop has a lot of mileage. And anyone who doesn't find themselves tapping a toe to the Spice Girls has no sense of fun ;) ! IMHO, a lot of the USA's prelidiction with therapy, deepness and introspection appears to be a tad superficial anyway; although this opinion is based on a mind-set of America fed by "My So-called Life" and the Ricki Lake genre of talk shows. They make my teeth grind, whereas Tori appears far more genuine. I dunno why. Paul. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Are you interested in | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du Swedish Cinema at all, Ted?" | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | Def Leppard : 'Vault' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I put so much petrol in my car the other day, I couldn't get in it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:08:13 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Re : A Case of You (was Re: Favorites) and web page > On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 Roguevouge@aol.com wrote: > > > just wanted to letcha know the A Case of You wasnt a b-side > > it was a cover that tori did of Joni Mitchell It *was* a b-side as well. It was on the limited edition UK Cornflake Girl CD single that you can't get anywhere these days for hell or high water, along with "If 6 Was 9" and perhaps something else that won't come into my head right now. I'm in the middle of a Tori trip at the moment; I'm redesigning my Tori web page (http://toristuff.home.ml.org) in anticipation of some renewed Tori activity towards the end of the year. As the only Tori web site of any stature in the UK, I'm putting a lot of work into it, and especially concentrating on new ways of getting the pages to load faster and still look pretty. Three months with a 14.4k modem as opposed to a LAN has certainly taught me a lot about what good web design is ... Hopefully the new look will go online mid-october. ANy contributions, however small, are very gratefully received. Ta-ra, Paul. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Are you interested in | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du Swedish Cinema at all, Ted?" | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | Def Leppard : 'Vault' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I put so much petrol in my car the other day, I couldn't get in it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 16:20:49 -0700 From: rain Subject: Re: YKTR Ellis, Melanie S wrote: > > Speaking of albums... > I just got my copy of Y Kant Tori read (bootleg), and everyone told me > that it was sooooooooo awful...but it isn't THAT bad! Some songs are > really catchy (Fire on the side, for me). I know. I know--its not Tori > at her best by any means, but you can catch of glimmer of it every once > in a while and that made it a worthwhile purchase for me. i totally agree with you...i also recently bought y kant tori read and i dont see why she failed so miserably with this album..i mean i personally think its alot better than most of the 80's buttrock that DID make it. i rock out to this album all the time! :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rain ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:51:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Richman Subject: Why we listen > to respond to something nadyne was commenting on regarding the spice > girls and mariah carey (well, you could even include hansen)...thats not > anybody's fault in particular, thats the way of the united s of > a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do anything...people > want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as they make their way home > from work to watch a few hours of mindless television in order to fall > asleep and wake up to do the very same thing again...the masses of this > country, i'm inclined to believe are quite lazy and mindless and regard > tori's music as "too deep" or "too weird"...it actually requires > introspection and refelction upon your own life to appreciate her music, > which, i sadly admit, are a few skills the masses of this country severely > lack...i mean don't get me wrong, i'm not above the masses, i feel only > that i'm more aware than "they" are (who are "they"?, them?) Have you ever asked yourself *why* you listen to music? I know lots of people who like some background noise, others that will only listen to "happy" music, a few who like political expression. I'm not sure they aren't aware of the music around them -- maybe it is that they are not as affected by music or choose not to be. I'm interested in music as a form of communication. Maybe that's why I like listening to Tori. It's totally foreign (and exciting) to think you could form an understanding of a song without analyzing all the lyrics. You can skip the words for the first few passes and come pretty close to what the gist of the song is about. I find that expressiveness amazing. Then you can add the lyrics and fine tune your analysis or have it blown away or get confused if it is not accessible. In the end, it is that piano and how Tori uses the interplay of the wires, her breath and voice to draw me in to her art. Art does not (and should not) make you feel comfortable all of the time. It ought to challenge and bend your ideas. So why do I listen? It takes my brain to places I'd never visit otherwise. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:06:05 -0400 From: "Somer" Subject: Re: So, What's She like? - ---------- > From: Josh Kostka > To: precious-things@smoe.org > Subject: So, What's She like? > Date: September 9, 1997 6:08 PM Josh wrote: > > Hi, there, > > I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori > live - is she better > on stage than on album? I mean, she really pours her soul into her songs > and I was > wondering if maybe after she's been on tour for eleven months, the songs > just get boring > for her or something. Yes yes a thousand times yes!!!!! Tori's albums are all incredible to listen to, we all know how powerful they are. But seeing her live in concert is an indescribable experience. I mean, it's emotionally draining to watch her perform on stage. I saw her twice on her last tour and those were two of the best nights of my life, I will never forget them as long as I live. I hope this answers your question Josh. I was lucky to stand pretty near her after one of the shows and it was amazing. My dream is to meet her on her next tour...... Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:34:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Testure161@aol.com Subject: tori & trent Trent has been acting since high school, and he was supposedly REALLY good at acting, but i dont think anyone should get their hopes up about Trent being in the Crow 3. Trents been too busy as it is, and why would he be in the Crow 3? Trents also to picky to be in a movie like that, but it would be interesting if Tori and Trent were in a movie together, especially if it was a David Lynch movie. = ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:28:52 -0400 From: Bob Moyer Subject: Re: So, What's She like? > Yes yes a thousand times yes!!!!! Definitely...I never really got into BfP until I heard the majority of it concert at WolfTrap and Constitution Hall. - -- - -Bob Moyer U of MD, College Park rahvin@wam.umd.edu http://bobmoyer.home.ml.org ==================================================== "Disciplined is not what other musicians would necessarily call me; they might call me obsessed and relentless and really out of control." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:46:53 From: Dave Woodson Subject: YKTR and love vs infatuation Daisy-melanie wrote: One thing I DONT understand is: why do people insist on categorizing YKTR as "semi-heavy metal" and "hard rock" ????? This is 80's pop to a tee (IMHO). I agree completely on this. I remember Tori describing it (although I cannot remember where the interview was) as a cross between Kate Bush and Madonna. It is late 80's pop music, but I think a lot of people get hung up on the heavy metal style outfit and hair Tori has on the cover, as well as the fact that Guns n' Roses drummer Matt Soren was on it.I think perhaps a lot of the people writing the articles describing it this way have never actually listened to it, which seems very likely due to it's small initial circulation and current bootleg status. dominick wrote: to respond to something nadyne was commenting on regarding the spice girls and mariah carey (well, you could even include hansen)...thats not anybody's fault in particular, thats the way of the united s of a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do anything... people want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as they make their way home from work to watch a few hours of mindless television in order to fall asleep and wake up to do the very same thing again...the masses of this country, i'm inclined to believe are quite lazy and mindless and regard tori's music as "too deep" or "too weird"...it actually requires introspection and refelction upon your own life to appreciate her music, which, i sadly admit, are a few skills the masses of this country severely lack...i mean don't get me wrong, i'm not above the masses, i feel only that i'm more aware than "they" are (who are "they"?, them?) I think this is one very important difference between Tori and a lot of the "popular" musicians today. There are a lot of people who are not really devoted fans of any artist per se, they are simply generic top 40/popular music fans. Whoever and whatever is currently hot on the charts will get their attention until something else comes along and distracts them. I think this is why we see so many one hit wonders and short lived sensations, and why a group can win a grammy one year and be all but forgotten the next. It also happens in other areas too, like the recent explosion of Star Wars fans due to the re-release of the updated trilogy. It is possible to become a major overnight success by attracting "the crowd," but it takes constant effort to keep their attention. Remember MC Hammer? I heard he's gone bankrupt. Tori, on the other hand, has a genuine following of her own. Toriphiles don't need the media to constantly bombard them with Tori to keep her in mind. They listen to her because they love *her*, not just because the spotlight's on her right now. There may not be as many ewf's as there are top 40 fans, but we will still be ewf's long after today's hot sensations are Trivial Pursuit answers. Hansen, for example, is a doomed group. They are going to run smack into a wall called "growing up and not being cute anymore." Who remembers Kriss Kross? Kate Bush never tours, and releases albums once in a blue moon, but you can bet her fans will be there when her next one comes out. Tori could do the same thing (thank goddess she doesn't!) It's a matter of quality vs quantity. Tori doesn't need "the crowd." She has us. -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:42:37 -0500 From: bluegirl Subject: tori's beauty; was Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. i believe that her lips are her most attractive feature... they are perfect!!!!!!!! and her features tend to work well together in general. just a few words from me, ~marissa at-->mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu _____________________________ | hEllo EveRybOdy | | iT's ME. nOt anYone ElsE | | jUsT mE. HIII. | | ******* | | ->delirium of the Endless<- | |_____________________________| =09 ____________________________________________________________________________ ______ =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1 =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1 I go from day to day I know where the cupboards are I know where the car is parked I know he isn't you -T O R I A M O S- =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1 =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1 I think my body is as restless as my mind -A N I D I F R A N C O- =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1 =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1 when i am king you will be first against the wall with your opinions which are of no consequence at all huh what's that?? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambition makes you look very ugly -R A D I O H E A D- =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1= =B1 =B1=B1=B1=B1=B1=B1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:52:42 -0700 From: rain Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Josh Kostka wrote: > > > I'm wondeirng how everybody came across Tori's wonderful music. well i discovered tori about 3 years ago during a really horrible time in my life. i was in a mental institution and we were in the middle of a group therapy session when somehow the subject of music came up and a girl in the group started talking about how wonderful tori amos is. i had never heard her but the name kind of struck a funny chord in my body and i made a note to myself to remember it. well a couple days later i came across UNDER THE PINK (i swear the cd was sent by an angel or something!) so i went back to my room to listen to it on my diskman (i had to sneak it because we wernt allowed the privledge of music in the stupid mental institution) and i began to listen. i really cant even begin to describe it...needless to say i loved it,and under the pink is still my most favorite album in the world. i wonder if tori knows how much her music really helps us fans in times of trouble. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rain ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: So, What's She like? On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Josh Kostka wrote: > I was just wondering, since I've never had the oppurtunity to see Tori > live - is she better > on stage than on album? I mean, she really pours her soul into her songs > and I was > wondering if maybe after she's been on tour for eleven months, the songs > just get boring > for her or something. She has an amazing on-stage presence, and she really works off of the energy in the crowd. > Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is > she nice and stuff? She is -incredibly- nice. She let me cry on her shoulder. I mean, I'm a complete stranger who just came to see her show and meet her before her soundcheck, but still . . . argh. Of course, I still think I came across like a bumbling idiot: "Hi! You're Tori! Uhhhhhhhh . . . " ;) > And, just for my general information, is it Taboo to talk about Neil > Gaiman here or > something? Just wondering, 'cause whenever he's mentioned, people > apologize for talking > about the guy. It's not a major taboo, however . . . this list is for the discussion of Tori. Off-topic posts aren't encouraged, and all of the Neil posts here recently have had nothing to do with Tori. /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: AnaisBleu@aol.com Subject: best album I find it EXTREMELY hard to choose the "best" album. . . all of tori's albums (and individual songs) each have something special and different to say to me. .. something that even changes meanings for me when i listen to certaion songs at different times & in different settings. I fell in love with LE as soon as i heard it-- i swear that Cd never left my stereo;-) It was very special and emotional album for me; it spelled out in song many things i have felt. UtP is so different-- to me, it has an entirely different tone to it, a different mood than LE-- and, yet, i love it also. Pele was shocking to me in places( in a good way), b/c it was such a departure from the previous 2. . . but in places (such as Hey Jupiter, Father Lucifer, Putting the damage On, and others) i heard something that reminded me of LE and UtP. . . I think i love each album equally, b/c they are different people-- and you can't say one person is better than another (well, i guess you could, but it would be rude;-) - --rae ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:21:51 -0700 From: "Yanos Aldron" Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Although i RARELY post, i thought i would take a moment to put in my two-bits and show how closed-minded i used to be because it really makes me laugh at myself...you might get a laugh too, i hope: so LE came out and i happened to hear crucify on my local modrock station all the time and each time it came on i would remark "what is this sh*t" and wonder where this radio station was going...normally i listened to metal and some modrock. anyway, i went to visit my cousins in LA and of course Jenny had only one tape in the car all weekend: LE! My other cousin Mark and i laughed at her and forced her to turn it off after a few songs because it was to "girly" and we wanted to listen to something better. fast forward 6 months and i end up hearing china and little earthquakes and i immediately realized how stupid i really was for never giving tori a chance until that point in time. i NEVER would have guessed i would have liked her as much as i do...so much in fact that im on the mailing list...go figure! so i learned two things from this incident...first of all i WAS a closed minded bastard whose opinions were, at the time, completely based on other's perceptions of me (i was in high school just so you understand) and two, i really find redheads attractive, especially one's with a brain and a voice! long sing tori- cheers- yanos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:37:40 -0400 From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Subject: Re: Tori calendar if any of you ordered tori calendars from any given company.... weather you were told this or not, you "pre-ordered" these calendars. i am not even sure if they are out yet. - -rusty my web page has moved, got a new look, and has been updated! http://www.cantnot.org/rusty you just got an email from rusty, agentorange2@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:49:46 -0400 From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? my god... you guys really are starting to post more... or is there just more of you? i duuno which i would like to believe... but, anyway... to the subject... i discovered tori (now, this is really about to sound like a promo for a music store, but hey..), so, anyway, i was listening to the radio... it was an alternative station (which, my brother had just turned my on to, and away from that god awful top 40 station).. there was a commercial for her "live x" session that was to air a few days later. (this time frame being early UtP). i recognized alot of the songs they aired during the clip (such as crucify, god, etc.) so i decided to tune in to the live session.. and i have been listening since. - -rusty my web page has moved, got a new look, and has been updated! http://www.cantnot.org/rusty you just got an email from rusty, agentorange2@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:59:46 -0400 (EDT) From: AnaisBleu@aol.com Subject: Re: YKTR In a message dated 97-09-09 14:06:19 EDT, you write: << ! Some songs are really catchy (Fire on the side, for me) >> I agree-- i also love cool on your island, etienne, and heart attack at 23 ;-) rae ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:10:14 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: tori's beauty; >i believe that her lips are her most attractive feature... they are >perfect!!!!!!!! >and her features tend to work well together in general. >just a few words from me, > >~marissa > at-->mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu Heh, hope you didn't mind me posting that up. Anyhow... Yes, her lips are certainly a good feature that she has. Her "funny lip shape" has always been noticeable to me. Anyone else? - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:19:22 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: So, What's She like? >> Also, have any of you met Tori in person? How is she? I mean, like, is >> she nice and stuff? > >She is -incredibly- nice. She let me cry on her shoulder. I mean, I'm a >complete stranger who just came to see her show and meet her before her >soundcheck, but still . . . argh. Of course, I still think I came across >like a bumbling idiot: "Hi! You're Tori! Uhhhhhhhh . . . " ;) Wow, you've met Tori?? I would die to be in your shoes... every nite I dream about having this awesome intellectual conversation with her, and we become friends for life. I like to sing, and she let me sing with her (like she did Maynard from TOOL at the RAINN concert). That's quite a dream... - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:21:02 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Tori calendar >if any of you ordered tori calendars from any given company.... >weather you were told this or not, you "pre-ordered" these calendars. >i am not even sure if they are out yet. >-rusty Tori calendar... question is, how do I get one? - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:24:19 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? >and two, i really find >redheads attractive, especially one's with a brain and a voice! >long sing tori- >cheers- >yanos Good point... there's something else that I like about her looks... Red hair just looks so good, even better on her, and EVEN better the way that she has it... but we won't go there, will we? *wink* - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:54:20 -0400 From: Bob Moyer Subject: Re: tori's beauty; Ray Bailey wrote: > Heh, hope you didn't mind me posting that up. Anyhow... Yes, her lips > are certainly a good feature that she has. Her "funny lip shape" has > always been noticeable to me. Well, she practically throws them at you in the "silent all these years" video. - -- - -Bob Moyer U of MD, College Park rahvin@wam.umd.edu http://bobmoyer.home.ml.org ==================================================== "Disciplined is not what other musicians would necessarily call me; they might call me obsessed and relentless and really out of control." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:51:44 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Trent and acting Trent already has been in one film. It's called The Light of Day. He has like a one or two scene cameo as a musician in a band in a bar. This film is like from ages ago, before PHM and everything, so you could be right about Trent being an aspiring actor. TTFN Michael Francis ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #251 *************************************