From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #250 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, September 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tori's best [ANaStAsla@aol.com] Best Album and a Tori Dream.. ["Gucci Little Piggy" ] Tori Calendar [RAINN18@aol.com] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? ["Tori's Boys" ] Re: Favorites-- [Roguevouge@aol.com] chicago [LEQ@aol.com] Re: Favorite Tori Album [Jennifer Gerbi ] Re: Favourite Tori things / How I discovered Tori / Hopes for the new album [Mike Gray ] YKTR ["Ellis, Melanie S" ] Re: Favorite Tori Album ["Unifund, Inc." ] enough already, okay? ["Somer" ] the jenn thing ["w4barron" ] Happy Phantom ["w4barron" ] Re: chicago ["cream pudding" ] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? [kytiara majere ] Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) ["Mark Biscomb, or so they say...] Re: tori's best ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: the jenn thing [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Favorites-- ["Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." ] Mr Zebra [jlovoi@sps.edu (Senorita Monkeyshines)] Re: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. ["Rill" ] Re: Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) ["Rill" ] Re: Re: Getting to know Tori ["Rill" ] Another from me *smile* ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Mr Zebra ["Ashre, Ashre" ] RAINN t-shirt [gerryjd ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: ANaStAsla@aol.com Subject: Re: tori's best In a message dated 97-09-08 04:20:44 EDT, faerie@mbay.net writes: << I'm curious to know what others on the list think is the best album. >> To tell you the truth two weeks ago BFP was my fave....last week..UTP......and this week its LE......next week which will be? I have no idea! Love, Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:51:05 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Best Album and a Tori Dream.. Hello people.. I have to say UtP is my favourite album, and BfP is my least favourite. For me, it's a little less complicated than a load of therapyspeak and psychobabble. BtP, bar "Hey Jupiter", "Putting The Damage On" and a few others, doesn't have much in the way of good tunes for me. UtP is a much more 'musical' record. Plus, I think BfP was far too long - eighteen tracks, of such staggering diversity, is hard for me to swallow all at once. It's still a good album, but I listen to it far less than UtP. Actually, I don't listen to Tori half as much as I used to these days; I know all the songs off by heart anyway. I had the greatest Tori dream last night.. she played two nights at my local venue, Newcastle City Hall, where she played on the DDI tour.. only I was nearer the front than I was when I saw her and I was at both nights. She came on with a full band, including several female backing singers, and did "Caught A Lite Sneeze". The second night a fight broke out in the front row over because someone yelled "I LOVE YOU TORI" in the middle of "Winter" (as was worryingly the trend on the tour last year). Great dream. I didn't get to meet her afterwards though. :( Paul =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Are you interested in | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du Swedish Cinema at all, Ted?" | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | Tori Amos : 'Under The Pink' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I put so much petrol in my car the other day, I couldn't get in it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:51:05 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Re: Getting to know Tori On 8 Sep 97 at 21:10, Lady Eorann allegedly said: > > The UK singles from BfP should also be relatively easy to come by, > > and pretty good to pick up. > > I wouldn't say "easy" exactly. i have only seen the UK Talula in my > neck of the woods. :( That's funny, they're everywhere where I am. Try http://www.vinyltap.co.uk .. they're very reliable and have some good Tori stuff. Not the cheapest, but then you can't buy CDs in Netto stores over here either. Paul. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Are you interested in | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du Swedish Cinema at all, Ted?" | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | Fish : 'Sunsets On Empire' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I put so much petrol in my car the other day, I couldn't get in it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: RAINN18@aol.com Subject: Tori Calendar Has anyone ordered the Tori calendar from CD CELLAR?? I ordered it from them over a month ago and have not received nor heard from them at all. I have tried emailing them and still no response. If anyone has ordered the calendar of anything else from them please let me know how long it took and all that. thanks angie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:18:55 +0930 From: "Tori's Boys" Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Hello All, > I'm wondeirng how everybody came across Tori's wonderful music. Well, cast your mind back to '92. tori was on her Australian tour and did a lot of late night television shows. One in particular, The Late Show with Clive Roberson, she performed on a Wednesday night. The precentor, Clive, like the performance of SLTY so much, that he replayed it on the Thursday night. Just in case any missed it on these nights, he then replayed it again on the Friday night. BTW, I'm still kicking myself for not getting this performance onto video :( The next day after the first performance (Thursday morning), I went out and bought LE, and never looked back!! Well, there's my story!! Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:42:38 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Good God I wish I'd payed more attention when Tori toured here (Australia) in 1992. At the tender young age of 14, I wasn't exactly big on late-night TV, so I didn't get to see the performance that Jeremy alluded to. Didn't have the guts or the cash to go and see the concert either. And boy am I annoyed about that, we got missed on the DDI tour, presumably because the album did SFA in Australia, But then again, living here in this little backwater we're used to missing out on tours, especially here in Adelaide. Er whinge, whinge I have a head ache and have drunk too much coffee. TTFN Michael Francis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:18:19 -0500 From: "Unifund, Inc." Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. >Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. I was the one who posted about this person saying Tori's hair was permed. I've tried to stay out of this, but...I *was not* attacking you. I was just stating that *I* thought it wasn't permed. I think you're being a bit sensitive - and reacted strongly to what I wrote - and then someone else reacted strongly to what you wrote - and so-on, and so-forth. This is getting ridiculous. I don't even know why *I'm* getting involved - I guess just to let you know that I was not jumping down your throat. Gillian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:24:09 -0500 From: "Unifund, Inc." Subject: Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) From: Mickey Sun > Tori was supposedly approached by Miramax(?) to play a small > part (owner of a tatoo parlor) in Crow 2. She turned it down > because she was writing/producing Boys for Pele at the time I > believe. I remember reading an interview where Tori said she turned it down because the part just wasn't *her* - nothing really about timing. Gillian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:03:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wednesday Subject: Trent Hi all, When I found out that Trent&Tori were friends(a while back, mind you)I was soooooo happy, because they represent the male and female side of my Favorite People In The World =) Anyways, I read in an interview with the great Reznor once, that a friend gave him a tape of "Little Earthquakes", in 1992 or so, telling him that she "sounded sorta like Sinead O Connor". Trent didn`t like Sinead O Connor very much, so he didn`t play the tape. After a while, though, he listened to it in his car(dunno why he changed his mind about playing it, maybe he got stuck in traffic..)and turns out; he loves it =)(of course he did!!). Now, that`s how he first *encountered* Tori, but I don`t know how excatly the two of them met... Maybe someone else can help us out with that =) Kind regards, Lisa The EWF in Norway =) "I hurt myself today to see if I could feel I hurt myself, you said to try and make him feel So, I hurt myself again to see if he`d see me I hurt myself again no, he could never see me" Tori Amos&Trent Reznor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Roguevouge@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorites-- In a message dated 97-09-08 16:26:26 EDT, markb@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu writes: << Favorite B-Side: Hands-down, "A Case of You." Buying Over the Pink was one of the best Tori purchases I've made! >> just wanted to letcha know the A Case of You wasnt a b-side it was a cover that tori did of Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: LEQ@aol.com Subject: chicago Hello I am going to be in chicago this weekend and was wondering if anyone knows of any good record stores that would sell tori. I'm looking for rarities. Specifically in downtown or somewhere where i could find it! Thanks Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:36:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: Favorite Tori Album On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Michael L. Whitehead wrote: > My favorite Tori album is *easily* Boys For Pele. While I adore LE and > strongly relate to UTP, I feel the complexity and layers of BFP are > outstanding. I also strongly relate to the concept of looking for your Oh, I totally agree with you. I think in terms of maturity and sheer genius-levels, bfp is one of the most inacessable albums, and one of the best. You have to like *work* at listening to it. All the way through. And investigate the stories. > true personhood. (Tori talks about finding her womanhood, but some of the > same ideas can apply to men as well.) Like Tori I am searching for my own > fire. I discover new gems everytime I listen to this work. The fact that > it is difficult to get into at first is a real plus for me. This album > makes Tori really stand out as an artist, and shows she is doing her own > thing and following her own creative urges, with no censorship or > interference from the goofy record companies. It made my already high > admiration for her soar higher. Tori is determined not to stagnate as an > artist, and BFP is proof that she is being successful! Absolutely. I relate to BFP most, probably because as many on here I was goign through very similar circumstances, and so I relate to *so much* of this album. If I actually sit down and listen to the whole thing, I"m usually sobbing by "doughnut song". Sometimes I can't even listen to hey jupiter. for someone to affect me that powerfully through music is quite rare, but she just gets right in there. - -j ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 23:19:48 +0100 From: Mike Gray Subject: Re: Favourite Tori things / How I discovered Tori / Hopes for the new album >First off, the favorite Tori album. Like I said earlier, my fave is >definately LE, but... I can't really say that it is BY FAR my favorite. For me, the albums are so different in their styles that it's difficult for me to choose between them. If I had to, I'd come down on the side of LE, purely because it's the only album that I *never* want to skip any of the tracks on... but that's a pretty poor way of making a decision. Oh, and probably because it's got "Tear In Your Hand", undoubtedly my favourite Tori song. >My favorite Tori Bee-side is "Honey." Don't ask me why, that song >just really really appeals to me. But then, I don't have all the >singles unfortunately, so I haven't heard ALL the bee-sides. B-Sides... erm... probably my favourite would be "Mary", which has always appealed to me. To add another dimension to this debate, my favourite Tori remix (not counting the Crucify single mix as a remix which would win otherwise..) I'd probably plump for "In The Springtime Of His Voodoo" (Hasbrouck Heights Club Mix) because it kept me awake throughout an entire 10 hour plane journey after hearing it just once!=20 And as for how I got into Tori, it's a slightly odd story... Channel hopping one afternoon, I fell upon the "crucify" video on French music TV (MCM) and sat and watched it, virtually transfixed. The day after, I went into town, and Little Earthquakes was on offer (=A39.99 for the CD), so I bought it... I never looked back. If I have one regret, it's that I never really took the time to get my head round BfP properly. I still find it the hardest to actually *listen* to (partly because my first copy was borrowed by a friend and never returned and my new copy is the one with the cruddy remixes and no ITSOHV) because I find Professional Widow and Blood Roses a little *too* harsh, and some of the songs just a bit too off-the-wall for my taste. Although I still have an affinity for Mr.Zebra, CALS, PTDO, Talula (preferably *not* the tornado mix), and Marianne. I'd like to see the new album utilise more piano and less harpsichord (partly because I'm not keen on the texture of the sound that the harpsichord produces) and although we all know it'll be a completely new experience again (or would assume so), I'd like to hope that we don't go too far down this dance/remix track especially not on the singles - although we did get quite a few B-sides for BfP, I think I'd rather have had live tracks than remixes, but that's just my take on things. Anyway, I've wasted enough of your valuable time now... Later Mike Gray =20 Mike E-mail : michael@pta15.u-net.com =20 then visit my web pages at http://www.pta15.u-net.com/mike/index.html=20 For Gloria Estefan, Peach and Erasure information and Links! =20 Erasure/Wonderland stuff at http://www.pta15.u-net.com/wonderland/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:48:18 From: Dave Woodson Subject: Reclaiming Tori Chelsea wrote: My favorite Tori album would have to be _Under The Pink_, in some ways by default. As much as I love both of the other ones, they're both associated with bad things that happened in my life, and listening to them can be difficult. LE came out at about the time I was breaking up with my abusive boyfriend, and listening to it helped soothe me in this time of fear. However, I ended up running into said ex about a year and a half later, and he informed me of some disgusting rituals he would perform whilst listening to LE. This made the album something of an endurance test, but in the past few months some things going on in my life have left me feeling that I needed to reclaim that album for myself; not listening to it would have given this asshole too much power. There are still some songs I can't listen to, but I'm starting to remember how much I needed some help and emotional balm. It is apalling that someone would deliberately try to alienate someone else from their own personal Tori experience like that, especially since he probably wouldn't have bothered to do it if he didn't *know* how much Tori's music means. A person with an attitude like that digs their own grave every day. He must be closed off to so many wonderful people, ideas, and experiences. I con't understand what anyone could get out of being that way. I hope you do reclaim all of Tori's music and hear it on your own terms. It's a communication between Tori and you, and you can share it with anyone you want but no one has the right to try to take it away from you. You obviously understand this already, but I had to say something because this petty, spiteful act by a person to whom "asshole" is praising with faint damnation really bothers me. -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:47:47 -0500 From: "Ellis, Melanie S" Subject: YKTR Speaking of albums... I just got my copy of Y Kant Tori read (bootleg), and everyone told me that it was sooooooooo awful...but it isn't THAT bad! Some songs are really catchy (Fire on the side, for me). I know. I know--its not Tori at her best by any means, but you can catch of glimmer of it every once in a while and that made it a worthwhile purchase for me. Baltimore, on the other hand, I think is awful, but it was the start of bigger and better things. One thing I DONT understand is: why do people insist on categorizing YKTR as "semi-heavy metal" and "hard rock" ????? This is 80's pop to a tee (IMHO). And Mother is one of my faves...I just got engaged and when IM insecure Mother reminds me that I have no need to be (I dont need her to leave the light on anymore.Even though I am committed to the "dance", I can always find her again) Well thats that Daisy-melanie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:27:00 -0500 From: "Unifund, Inc." Subject: Re: Favorite Tori Album From: Jennifer Gerbi > Absolutely. I relate to BFP most, probably because as many on here I was going through very similar circumstances, and so I relate to *so much* of this album. I can *relate* to that :-). When I was introduced to Tori through LE, I was going through a realization of sorts - one that paralleled the album. Under the Pink was not the same experience (I still like the album). As for Boys for Pele - when I heard what the album was going to be about, I was like "I am definitely ready for this". The song that hit me the most was Blood Roses. Before I heard the song I had said to myself - I was involved with this creep - that I wished I could shave everyplace that he touched me - which didn't happen because it's hard enough for me to shave my legs, let alone....well, anyway :-). to have heard my thoughts in a song was amazing. My vote, however, is with Little Earthquakes, as being my favorite Tori album. Gillian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ he is bored with me. my life is written on my skin, and he has read it before. he doesn't like an old story. especially one with his name in it. he used to read me with his fingers. he got tired of the ink that smudged his fingers. he is fed up with the binding that opens to the same page. the last page has been read. the mystery is over. I could replace the cover with a new picture, but it is still the same story. and he is bored with it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:42:21 -0400 From: "Somer" Subject: enough already, okay? Guys, everyone has a right to express themselves on this mailing list and to enjoy what is written and other opinions. The whole " hair" thing is dumb. Whatever happened and who said what is over. We have discussed this one to death, so let's drop it and move on now, please. Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:54:50 -0400 From: "w4barron" Subject: the jenn thing Elizabeth, A few days ago, the topic was whether Tori's hair was permed, naturally curly, etc. I posted something saying it would be nice to have a little more interesting topic. Jenn kinda got pissed at me and told me to think up a better topic. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:02:43 -0400 From: "w4barron" Subject: Happy Phantom Oh, I LOVE "Happy Phantom!!" Its such a, well, optomistic, look at death! I listen to it all the time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:13:22 CST From: "cream pudding" Subject: Re: chicago Hello I am going to be in chicago this weekend and was wondering if anyone knows of any good record stores that would sell tori. I'm looking for rarities. Specifically in downtown or somewhere where i could find it! Thanks Sarah Yes. I second this inquiry. It would be a good thing for me to know also... I don't THINK there are any decent stores in the IMMEDIATE downtown area...but I am clueless to any others...hmmm. Help us out! The tori-starved children are crying out, and they want their cabbage or else some spinach is gonna bite it. heehee kerriloo^ "They say Confucious does his crossword with a pen . . ." -Tori Amos- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:27:56 -0400 From: kytiara majere Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Well, for me it was somethng of a chilling experience. There is a little coffeehouse down the street from me, and every Wednesday, they have an "open mic nite". Ofcourse, my friends and i (and the transient boyfriends) we devoted attendees. Well, one nite, my boyfriend and i were having a fight outside the coffeehouse (called The Grind :), and we split up, mostly over the fact that he only saw my body, not my mind or heart. I went inside and sat down, crying. Suddenly, the lights dimmed, and a girl began singing "leather" acappella. ...look i'm standing naked before you don't you want more than my sex... I felt as though that song struck straight to my core. I asked her what/who it was, and she replied, "Tori Amos" Of course, back then, i thought, "who?" But, after much money spent, and 3 albums, and 4 singles, and a videotape... You couldn't drag me away. :) hope i didn't bore anyone!! baibai :) ~~kyt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:57:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) Trent Reznor in Crow 3? With a cameo by Tori?? This sounds pretty speculative since I've never heard anything about another sequel to the Crow, and I've never heard of (or even thought of) Trent Reznor as an actor. Can anyone else back this up or shoot it down definitively? Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visiBIlity!| ------------- "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:13:33 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: tori's best >In a message dated 97-09-08 04:20:44 EDT, faerie@mbay.net writes: > ><< I'm curious to know what others on the list think is the best album. >> > >To tell you the truth two weeks ago BFP was my fave....last >week..UTP......and this week its LE......next week which will be? I have no >idea! > >Love, >Josh Now THAT makes sense... heh, no really it does, to me. They are all just soooooo good. - -Ray (aka Cochese) "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:14:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: the jenn thing On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, w4barron wrote: [snip] Folks, please make sure that you don't send private email to the list. For example, the reply here that I snipped was more meant just for Elizabeth, not for the edification of the whole list. /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:05:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Re: Favorites-- On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 Roguevouge@aol.com wrote: > just wanted to letcha know the A Case of You wasnt a b-side > it was a cover that tori did of Joni Mitchell Oh. Well... you know... Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visiBIlity!| ------------- "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Re: Favorites-- Hey All-- In response to Richard "Damn, This Guy's Plugged In" Handal, I must agree. You're absolutely right about breaking the album into little bits. Tori has said many times that she thinks of BfP as a kind of story. I also know it helps when you've been able to relate to some of what she's saying. While I still find much of the album to be a great big enigma, a lot of it came clear when I really realized what Tori was talking about by stealing fire. When I realized that I was stealing fire, and especially after I found it (I think), the album came to hold a lot more meaning. Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visiBIlity!| ------------- "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: horse Subject: Re: Nadyne and marissa Nadyne and Marissa: You guys (gals) rock! I have to first admit i'm a slight nadyne fan...i actually like and look forward to reading yours and richard handal's posts...thanks, oh gracious, gracious...and as for marissa...you rock because you like upside down..."inside my head the noise...chatter chatter chatter..." fuck yeah man! to respond to something nadyne was commenting on regarding the spice girls and mariah carey (well, you could even include hansen)...thats not anybody's fault in particular, thats the way of the united s of a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do anything...people want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as they make their way home from work to watch a few hours of mindless television in order to fall asleep and wake up to do the very same thing again...the masses of this country, i'm inclined to believe are quite lazy and mindless and regard tori's music as "too deep" or "too weird"...it actually requires introspection and refelction upon your own life to appreciate her music, which, i sadly admit, are a few skills the masses of this country severely lack...i mean don't get me wrong, i'm not above the masses, i feel only that i'm more aware than "they" are (who are "they"?, them?) well, rock on to our new list subscribers, i do believe they have livened up this list for the better. - -dominick # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # and if I'm wasting all your time, this time maybe you never learned to take and if I'm hanging on to your shade I guess I'm way beyond the pale :::::::::::: -Tori Amos # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:24:54 -0400 From: jlovoi@sps.edu (Senorita Monkeyshines) Subject: Mr Zebra Guys! hey, what do you think of the song, MR. ZEBRA? I don't think I understand it fully and I just want your input. - --JOE ************************************************************** VISIT ME!!! www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 jlovoi@sps.edu "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" - --Tori Amos ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:50:03 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. okay, I apologize then. See, so far since I've joined on here, a lot of "rude" behavior has been posted. I thought that you were being rude. I apologize if that was not your intent. Yes, I am sensitive sometimes, hey, I came from an abusive home--sometimes I can't help it. Sorry. - -Raven (yes, this has nothing to do with Tori but I had to apologize. - --- - -Life is like a messy room. >>Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. > >I was the one who posted about this person saying Tori's hair was permed. >I've tried to stay out of this, but...I *was not* attacking you. I was just >stating that *I* thought it wasn't permed. I think you're being a bit >sensitive - and reacted strongly to what I wrote - and then someone else >reacted strongly to what you wrote - and so-on, and so-forth. This is >getting ridiculous. I don't even know why *I'm* getting involved - I guess >just to let you know that I was not jumping down your throat. > >Gillian > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 13:42:06 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) I heard on an interview a WHILE back on MTV I think that the producer of the Crow III was Rob Zombie (of White Zombie). They were interviewing him about it and he said he'd like to get Trent to play the Crow but it was not decided yet. They had no mention of Tori though.. Raven - --- - -Life is like a messy room. >Trent Reznor in Crow 3? With a cameo by Tori?? This sounds pretty >speculative since I've never heard anything about another sequel to the >Crow, and I've never heard of (or even thought of) Trent Reznor as an >actor. Can anyone else back this up or shoot it down definitively? > > Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- > Mark >______________________________________________________________________________ > | increase | > |visiBIlity!| > ------------- >"It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you >all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your >you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you >for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." > -Tori Amos -Tori Amos > > Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mickey Sun Subject: Re: There's *some* Tori related info :) Okay, before this gets out of hand... On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Mark Biscomb, or so they say... wrote: > Trent Reznor in Crow 3? With a cameo by Tori?? Mark, I never said that Tori will appear in crow 3. According to one of the issues of the now defunct Upside Down Tori Fan Club Magazine, Tori *was* offered a small role in Crow 2. Obviously, she turned it down. I made a supposition that *if* Trent Reznor *was* going to play the Crow, it seems somewhat likely that Tori will be offered a small role by either Trent or the casting department because: 1. Trent and Tori are friends (okay, it's a lame reason) 2. Tori was offered a role in the previous movie (okay, this is even lamer) Michael F. replied to my post saying that Trent is currently working on his new album and that a movie deal seems highly unlikely. I don't know, I came across this information purely by chance, whether it is accurate or not, we will just have to see. However, it would be interesting to see Trent Reznor as an incarnation of the Crow character. Have a good one. Mickey Sun things only have the power you give them ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:16:16 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Happy Phantom >Oh, I LOVE "Happy Phantom!!" Its such a, well, optomistic, look at death! I >listen to it all the time. Wow, that's really awesome. I totally agree with Tori's view of death... almost flirtatious. Hard to explain... does anyone else feel the same way? Oh, and will someone tell me if my "signature" down there looks okay? I have it going down there automatically and I can't see it... - -Ray (aka Cochese) "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:07:36 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Re: Getting to know Tori no kidding.. if you can tell me where to get this "easy-to-find" More Pink, let me know! Raven - --- - -Life is like a messy room. - -Emotions are the one true language that we as humans fail to understand. >On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > >> >> The UK singles from BfP should also be relatively easy to come by, and >> pretty good to pick up. > >I wouldn't say "easy" exactly. i have only seen the UK Talula in my neck >of the woods. :( > >> Also, if you ever see "More Pink", a special >> Australian 2-disc reissue of UtP that includes a second disc of b-sides, >> -get it-. It's wonderful, and had the only easy-to-find legit version of >> "A Case of You", plus an absolutely wonderful "Here. In My Head". > >EASY TO FIND?? Oh, please, help me then, /nad. I want More Pink more >badly than, well, almost anything in the world, but I have had absolutely >no luck finding it. Please please please tell me where i can find this? >Is it just because I am unlucky, or is it getting rarer by the second? > >Now almost totally desperate to find myself a copy of More Pink, > >Yvette. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. > To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit > another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a > Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:54:45 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Another from me *smile* >to respond to something nadyne was commenting on regarding the spice >girls and mariah carey (well, you could even include hansen)...thats not >anybody's fault in particular, thats the way of the united s of >a...people don't want to have to exert any effort to do anything...people >want a quick cheeseburger at the drivethru as they make their way home >from work to watch a few hours of mindless television in order to fall >asleep and wake up to do the very same thing again...the masses of this >country, i'm inclined to believe are quite lazy and mindless and regard >tori's music as "too deep" or "too weird"...it actually requires >introspection and refelction upon your own life to appreciate her music, >which, i sadly admit, are a few skills the masses of this country severely >lack...i mean don't get me wrong, i'm not above the masses, i feel only >that i'm more aware than "they" are (who are "they"?, them?) > >well, rock on to our new list subscribers, i do believe they have livened >up this list for the better. >-dominick Dominick, I really do feel like you read my mind on that first paragraph up there... we have views that are much alike. People find it so much easier to be completely and totally mindless these days... what a shame. So many people could live productive, introspective lives, and they throw it all away... Wow... does that last sentence pertain to me at all?? *grin* OH, and my signature should finally work how I want it now... - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:48:48 PDT From: "Ashre, Ashre" Subject: Re: Mr Zebra What don't you understand? Ratatouille Strychinine means poisened stew... that's about all I know beacuse I cheated and looked the two words up in a dictionary. "Ratatouille Syrychinine, sometimes she's a friend-o-mine with her gigantic whirl-pool that will blow your miiiinnnddd." Don't loose your cracker jacks, Staci ``````````vVv``````````vVv``````-ICICLE-``````vVv``````````vVv`````````` "Getting off, getting off, while there all downstairs" ```vVv``````````vVv`````````-TORI AMOS-`````````vVv``````````vVv``` Ashre8@hotmail.com ~*-Staci-*~ the *proud* owner and creator of: _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Ashre *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6271 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:47:46 -0400 From: gerryjd Subject: RAINN t-shirt I was wondering how long it takes for the RAINN t-shirt to come once you order it. Has anyone ordered one. Because I sent away for one in the last week of July and I still haven't got it. Just wondering how many weeks it takes so I know when to expect it. Any info would be appriciated. thanks Corey ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #250 *************************************