From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #249 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, September 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 249 Today's Subjects: ----------------- There's *some* Tori related info :) ["Mickey Sun" ] Re: Favorites-- [Richard Handal ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:41:43 -0700 From: "Mickey Sun" Subject: There's *some* Tori related info :) While surfing the web for news on the Star Wars prequels, I've uncovered some Tori related info! :D It seems like Trent Renzor will playing the title character in Crow 3. Hmmm... So what does that mean to Tori? Well, Tori was supposedly approached by Miramax(?) to play a small part (owner of a tatoo parlor) in Crow 2. She turned it down because she was writing/producing Boys for Pele at the time I believe. It seems entirely possible that Trent might (NOTE: I said *might*) approach Tori for a part in Crow 3 (NOTE: This is *my* speculation only). All this info, plus news for Star Wars 1, Star Trek 9 and X-File movies are all here at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7343/news.htm click on the link PAGE: Aug25th - Aug31st to see Crow 3 info. Goto: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7343/old-85.htm for the actual page, for you all with non-frames compliant browsers. Anyway, I've been away for a while but here are some answers to Tori questions posted recently: Fave Tori album[s]: Y Kant... er.. just kidding, I can't really name a favorite one per se, but LE was the one that got me hooked. Fave B-sides: Sugar / Daisy Dead Petals / Take to the Sky Fave single: China single (love the b-sides) Fave vid: Winter video (haven't seen many Tori Videos though) I like Mother also. Have a good one. Mickey Sun The first word was dream, it came to me as I slept. Gently bring out the darkness deep inside my heart. - -Voices, Macross Plus _______________________________________ http://www2.ucsc.edu/~micksun/ mailto:micksun@cats.ucsc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:58:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Favorites-- Mark Biscomb said: > BfP is usually too complicated for me. The songs are beautiful, but if I > start thinking about them too much... AHHHH! Believe me, I know how *that* is. But the more I am in a place to *not* think about it so much but just let it wash over me is when the emotion hits hardest. Tori was right when she said to get out of your head when listening to Pele. I say save the strict lyric interpretations for other times. I have yet to try the bottle of red wine she suggested, but look forward to that one day. Perhaps a nice Barolo. :-) Anyhow, if one is having a bit of trouble latching onto what Pele's about, I suggest trying one section at a time. Pele is not about songs. Turn the volume up to where distractions from other things are diminished and try not to think too much about the lyrics. Put on the record from Beauty Queen through Professional Widow and mentally kick back as much as possible. Maybe play that whole section a second time a few minutes later after some silence. More or less forget listening to the lyrics; just let the sounds and the emotions they embody show you what all that's about. Don't force it. As the Beatles lyric says: "Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream, [...] Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void..." and see what happens. No matter what (if anything) happens, repeat this procedure with the other sections. Other days, even. Mr. Zebra through Hey Jupiter, Way Down through Not the Red Baron, and Agent Orange through Twinkle. For me, I like putting Damage and Twinkle on repeat as a set. I know I'm not the only one who's done that. Think "courses of a meal." Feel the anger, melancholy, longing--hell, feel the *crawling*. Feel all the things going on in the different sections. I won't even try to list all that stuff. I'm not about to force my concept of Pele on anyone. Pele is more of a journey than Tori's previous two albums. I love music that does that. It's not escapism if the place you end up going is deeper into yourself. Going inward is a worthwhile trek. Not in a self-centered way, but in a self-discovery way. The concerts are their *own* trips. I feel that's the reason so many of us want entire shows on recordings. A five song live EP is nice, but there's no chance for much of a journey with that. As wonderful as the individual songs themselves are, they play out better when they don't stand alone--when each acts as a stepping stone to the next. This is a real sore spot with me. Entire shows--perceived warts and all-- need to be released. Period. Neither Tori nor her record companies nor her "people" understand this, or if any of them do, she'd be too freaked out for something less than perfect to be released, anyway. I think all the little things that happen in a show add to the sense of unity and "place" of a show--the sense that a show *is* somewhere, and is *going* somewhere. Tori knows this in her heart as she's spoken about it before, but the idea of such things being committed to released recordings freaks her out. Maybe one day she'll get over it. I intend to bring all this up with her even more strongly than I did last year if I talk to her again. This long list of rare singles trickling out when it should be augmented by entire shows being released on record is more frustrating than anything else. The final general tip I have is to become the songs. If you can manage to do that with much success at all, that's definitely the way to go. And that goes for everything she's ever written that I've heard, and for that matter, most of anything anyone else ever wrote, too. All the songs have a point of view. BECOME that point of view. LIVE the song. It doesn't get any better than that. There I go, rambling as usual. Hope some of that helped at least one person enjoy Pele a bit more. I find it to be the most overwhelming of her albums, but I'd hate being without any of the others, of course. Everything needn't be overwhelming *all* the time. Even though I was always into "too much" as a lifestyle. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #249 *************************************