From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #248 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, September 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mother [Lady Eorann ] Tori & Books ["Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." ] Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. ["Rill" ] Mother/Trent [jlovoi@sps.edu (Joe Mama)] Getting to know Tori [jlovoi@sps.edu (Joe Mama)] fave rave Tori album [Traumachik@aol.com] Re: Tori's Best Album? ["Kelly Webb" ] Re: How did everybody discover Tori? [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Re: Hey Jess ["Ray Bailey" ] Tori's Best Bee-Side ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: Getting to know Tori [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: As If! [Jennifer Gerbi ] smoe.org downtime Sept. 11th [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [Jennifer Gerbi ] Re: Trent [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] Re: Getting to know Tori [Lady Eorann ] Re: Mother [FacethFire@aol.com] Re: Getting to know Tori [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [Michael Curry ] Re: The best Toris...and why. [FacethFire@aol.com] Re: Tori's Best Album? [Casey ] Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. [dee zed stroke zero one five ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:25:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Mother On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, w4barron wrote: > Hey, there's one song from the LE album that no one seems to talk about > much. The song is "Mother." Am I the only one who absolutely loves this > song?? Actually, it makes me wanna cry...but what do you guys think about > the song? Mother is one of my all-time faves. In fact, my first student film was based directly on the song, and I used it as the music for the film (it was only a 5 minute film). I love the song because it captures all the love and understanding as well as the anger and clashes between a mother and daughter. I have had to dealw ith leaving home and starting a life away from Mom, who is my best friend, and who can also be my worst enemy. Mother was also the very first Tori song I remember listening to (not hearing, but really listening to), so it also has that going for it in my mind! BTW, I suppose i should introduce myself. Lady Eorann (also known as Yvette in the human world of daylight and sunshine and other such strange things). I live in Miami, I'm 20 (21 in 13 days! Yippee!), a film student at U Miami. I am madly in love, suffer from severe melancholy with bouts of happiness, and need to listen to Tori every day or I just don't feel right. That's about it. I think whatever else you can find out you'll have to glean from my posts! ;) Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Biscomb, or so they say..." Subject: Tori & Books Dear Jess-- For your question on Tori's favorite books, I know for fact that she is a huge fan of Alice Walker. Posessing the Secret of Joy supposedly inspired her to write Cornflake Girl and it's influences and references to it can be heard in many other songs as well. One more thing, please try to keep the flaming between you and whoever to a minimum. I didn't catch what started it either, but try to keep cool about it. PEACE. Peace, Love, and the Goddess-- Mark ______________________________________________________________________________ | increase | |visiBIlity!| ------------- "It's finding a balance with "I think the worst thing you all these different sides of myself... can do is uh, kinda hang your you know I kinda invite them all over butt out the window when you for a plate of spaghetti..." don't have any sun on it." -Tori Amos -Tori Amos Everybody is somebody else's weirdo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 15:17:47 -0700 From: "Rill" Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. >Damn, now I'm screwed. I'm sorry if you people (particularly Jennifer) >were sooo offended when I said that this hair thing was boaring. What can >I say??? As for my lack of creativity, I've been really depressed lately >and it's been blocked. People on here can be pretty mean. Like when we >were talking about Tori's virginity, the poor kid who started the thing was >brutally attacked!! Why do you people get so offended when someone says >something you don't agree with?? > No kidding. A man asked what the pic on the ATY book (2) looked like and I answered. Considering that Tori has that "wavy but difficult" hair thing, I described it as permed because it looked like they had done that or something similiar to it to "help out" the curls. Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. Then they attacked everyone for even talking about it. I haven't heard from the guy with the original question once since then. I've been attacked every time I have posted something. Most haven't but certain people have been really rude. I think it's disgusting that we can't discuss Tori without acting like three year olds! chill out people! Raven > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:54:15 -0500 From: jlovoi@sps.edu (Joe Mama) Subject: Mother/Trent I happen to think Mother is kewl. I really love the song and I can relate a lot. Just one question (I'm sorta--well I am--a tori newb so please have patience). What is Tori's relationship with Trent Reznor? ************************************************************** VISIT ME!!! www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 jlovoi@sps.edu "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" - --Tori Amos ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:57:10 -0500 From: jlovoi@sps.edu (Joe Mama) Subject: Getting to know Tori I got to know Tori just by hearing good things about her. Then I borrowed LE from someone and listened to Crucify twice! I luved it and I really found someone to relate to. It was great that someone was saying everything I was thinking so eloquently. That's it. Now I try to get everything I can from her. BTW, can anyone hook me up with all the singles??? I don't have any and I'm real excited to get some. So if anyone wants to trade for them, e-mail me privately and I'd be glad to work something out. - --JOE ************************************************************** VISIT ME!!! www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6864 www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4845 www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8220 jlovoi@sps.edu "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand" - --Tori Amos ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: fave rave Tori album My favorite Tori album would have to be _Under The Pink_, in some ways by default. As much as I love both of the other ones, they're both associated with bad things that happened in my life, and listening to them can be difficult. LE came out at about the time I was breaking up with my abusive boyfriend, and listening to it helped soothe me in this time of fear. However, I ended up running into said ex about a year and a half later, and he informed me of some disgusting rituals he would perform whilst listening to LE. This made the album something of an endurance test, but in the past few months some things going on in my life have left me feeling that I needed to reclaim that album for myself; not listening to it would have given this asshole too much power. There are still some songs I can't listen to, but I'm starting to remember how much I needed some help and emotional balm. BfP came out again as another mean boyfriend (not *abusive* per se, but certainly neglectful) was dumping me. I didn't realise it until later, but I was pregnant with his child and needed to take care of my situation. When I was getting help from an herbally-experienced friend of mine, BfP played on the hifi. Listening to it now reminds me of the pain I was going through, as well as how victorious I ended up - "from paths of pain to jewels of glory", as the Bartlebees say. I still listen to it on occasion (more than LE, in fact!), but it's so dense that it's hard to listen to without two other CDs on my turntable. In fact, messing around with my friend's 50-CD changer has helped me find the best two records to accompany BfP - _Emperor Tomato Ketchup_ by Stereolab, and the Loud Family's _Interbabe Concern_. UtP has always been the Tori I listen to - while it wasn't my first, it was the one that made me fall deeply in love with the redhaired dancing girl. Musically, it gave me shivers. I guess now it's following in the other records' footsteps as far as being associated with relationships; my boyfriend is presently shooting a film that involves a very scantily clad actress. While we've had a wonderful, healthy relationship up til now, the fact that there will be a topless girl standing in front of him makes me fear for everything. UtP deals with many themes I'm dealing with now, in real life - - "The Waitress" is exactly how I feel towards the actress herself, while "Cornflake Girl" and some of the other songs about women's cruelty towards other women contain sentiments that I relate with and have to remind myself of in real life, in order to get through this project. - --Chelsea ps. if anyone wants to repost some of this in another newsgroup, could you please email me first? i know this is something of a pompous request, but i've had some problems with people quoting my posts in other newsgroups out of context, and would rather this post didn't get around. Thx. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 16:45:25 PDT From: "Kelly Webb" Subject: Re: Tori's Best Album? my favorite album would be little earthquakes of course. although i did hear under the pink first. i liked that album but it was when i heard little earthquakes that i couldn't get enough. i remember hungrily awaiting the release of boys for pele. most of my friends were really disappointed with it. some events in my life followed and it was the only thing that i listened to for several months. if it weren't for that album i wouldn't have survived. my favorite b-sides. Take to the sky really struck a cord with me. i just popped it in one day and i couldn't turn it off. i must have listened to it 100 times in a row. i also love sugar, and frog on my toe. regards, Kelly ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? In a message dated 97-09-08 13:17:11 EDT, ozymandiaz@hotmail.com writes: > I'm a comics freak and Sandman's my favourite. When I read the Tori Amos > afterward in the "book of Dreams", I just spontaneously decided to get > "little earthquakes". Listening to it on the hour-long bus ride home on > my discman was like pure heaven. After that, I got UTP and BFP, and even > though they're good too, nothing compares to that first time. Kind of > like your first sexual experience, though I really wouldn't know about > that...:( I kind of stumbled upon the two at different times, and never really realised they were related until like year before last. I had noticed "Tear In Your Hand" in Brief Lives, but I was just like "whoa...Tori!" And I had noticed in the song "Me and Neil'll be hanging out with the Dream King", although at the time (I was thirteen, and Tori had brought me to a brief life of crime, but that's another story) I didn't know what it meant--except that it sounded really cool. And stranger than that, I had read "Murder Mysteries" by Neil, and never even realised that he was 'the sandman guy' (I might have, had I read his little biography before the story before two years ago)! And I think my first Tori experience was much better than my first sexual experience. It was "Silent All These Years". So then I stole the cassette tape from KMart and then listened to "Me and a Gun"...and fell in love with every other song on there. Under the Pink is a great one, too. I haven't yet formed a really happy really sad opinion on Boys for Pele yet... But my two favourite Tori songs are "Happy Phantom" and "Song for Eric"... And I saw her in concert once, in Dayton, Ohio. Oh, and I'm seventeen. Does that make sense? - --Suzanne-- - -- "I know everyone's a good person inside/Everyone wants just to be loved inside/But whenever I think how you wasted my time/I try to remember the good things inside" -- Jill Sobule ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:07:11 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Hey Jess >>There is no way I'm letting people like Jennifer ruin this mailing list for >>me. I've met some really cool people on here. > >Hey, Jess, it's me Elizabeth. Either I hadn't subscribed yet, or I missed >it...what happened between you and Jennifer? >Elizabeth > Heh... that's what I wanna know *wink wink* - -Ray ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:16:48 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Tori's Best Bee-Side >My favorite song: geez! It's a large tie between: >Winter, Precious Things, LE, SATY, God, CfG, Icicle, Hey Jupiter (Dakota Version), >CALS, and Muhammad My Friend. Boy, do I ever know how THAT feels... she's got so many songs that just kick ass! >My favorite Bee-side: Honey, deinfatly. Wow, mine too! Definately the best! *smile* >Raven - -Ray "Muhammad my friend, it's time to tell the world, we both know it was a girl, back in Betlehem..." -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:10:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Getting to know Tori On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Joe Mama wrote: > BTW, can anyone hook me up with all the > singles??? I don't have any and I'm real excited to get some. So if > anyone wants to trade for them, e-mail me privately and I'd be glad to work > something out. Geting -all- the singles is a tall order. For an idea of exactly how tall an order you just placed, pick up a copy of _Tori Amos Collectibles_ and flip through it. However, there are several good singles that are still easy to come by. Unless otherwise marked, these are all US singles: Winter: supposedly limited edition, but it's only limited in the sense that not every single man, woman, child, dog, cat, flea, and goldfish can't have 5 copies each. Has "Take to the Sky", "Upside Down", "Sweet Dreams", and "The Pool", all of which are excellent b-sides. Crucify: includes her covers of Led Zep's "Thank You", the Stones' "Angie", and Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Worth it for the cover of Teen Spirit alone. God: Home on the Range and two instrumentals. Cornflake Girl: Sister Janet, Daisy Dead Petals, Honey. Caught a Lite Sneeze: the silly songs!: This Old Man, That's What I Like Mick (The Sandwich Song), Graveyard, Toodles Mr Jim. Talula: Samurai, Frog on My Toe, London Girls. Hey Jupiter: has the Dakota mix of Hey Jupiter, plus these live tracks: Sugar, Honey, Professional Widow, and Over the Rainbow. In the Springtime of His Voodoo: techno remixes All of those are still rather easy to come by. With a little bit of time and luck, you should be able to get them all. Lessee. Winter should be $5-$8, Crucify $7-$11, God $4-$8, CfG $4-$8, CaLS $4-$8, Talula $4-$8, Hey Jupiter: $5-$10. The UK singles from BfP should also be relatively easy to come by, and pretty good to pick up. Also, if you ever see "More Pink", a special Australian 2-disc reissue of UtP that includes a second disc of b-sides, - -get it-. It's wonderful, and had the only easy-to-find legit version of "A Case of You", plus an absolutely wonderful "Here. In My Head". Good luck! /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:15:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: As If! On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, w4barron wrote: > There is no way I'm letting people like Jennifer ruin this mailing list for > me. I've met some really cool people on here. *What the FUCK* is going on here! All I said is to take it easy, and that when nothing much is going on, 3-4 frivolous posts about Hair Things can be fun. I have never had anyone complain about that before, and I certainly won't stand here and have someone bitch about me when all I am saying is to let people talk about what they want to talk about. Get a grip. Just as likely I could nail you for an unmarked off-subject posting, but I am not. At least the silly hair stuff was tori-related. -j ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:08:00 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: smoe.org downtime Sept. 11th and now a message from our sponsor: >Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:53:31 -0400 >From: Jeff Wasilko >To: guests@smoe.org >Subject: smoe.org downtime Sept. 11th > >smoe.org will be off the net most of the day, this Thursday, >September 11th while I take some of the network equipment to my >new house to wait for the phone company to install my ISDN line >there. I need to have the network equipment there to test the >connection. > >The downtime will start around 7am (east coast time) and we >should be back on the net between noon and 5pm, depending on when >the installer shows up. > >If you are hosting a list here, please tell your users, and ask >them not to post "why isn't my mail getting thru" messages over >and over. 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I went out and bought UTP, making sure that none of my metalhead friends noticed (otherwise I would have been crucified, err no pun intended). I played the album like two or three times a day, becuase it's a work of genius. And yeah that's about it. Plus I'm a big Sandman fan, so that endears Tori to me even more. TTFN Michael Francis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:20:51 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. >>Damn, now I'm screwed. I'm sorry if you people (particularly Jennifer) >>were sooo offended when I said that this hair thing was boaring. What can >>I say??? As for my lack of creativity, I've been really depressed lately >>and it's been blocked. People on here can be pretty mean. Like when we >>were talking about Tori's virginity, the poor kid who started the thing was >>brutally attacked!! Why do you people get so offended when someone says >>something you don't agree with?? >> >No kidding. A man asked what the pic on the ATY book (2) looked like and I answered. >Considering that Tori has that "wavy but difficult" hair thing, I described it as >permed because it looked like they had done that or something similiar to it to "help >out" the curls. Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. Then they attacked >everyone for even talking about it. I haven't heard from the guy with the original >question once since then. >I've been attacked every time I have posted something. Most haven't but certain people >have been really rude. I think it's disgusting that we can't discuss Tori without >acting like three year olds! chill out people! > >Raven I believe that I'll have to agree... if you can't read the opinions of other people without getting mad, or if you get upset by the content of this mailing list, it would probably be wise to unsubscribe... I have no idea who they're talking about up there... I'm just putting in my $.02 worth. - -Ray "I believe in peace... bitch." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:33:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. > out" the curls. Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. Then they attacked > everyone for even talking about it. I haven't heard from the guy with the original > question once since then. > What on earth??... Can't someone have a differing opinion than someone without attacking them? I do *NOT* recall any "attacks" over this hair thing, within the discussion. It is just a fun silly topic and noone was "attacked", except for the one post telling people to shut up, which I disagreed with. > I've been attacked every time I have posted something. Most haven't but >certain people > have been really rude. I think it's disgusting that we can't discuss Tori >without > acting like three year olds! chill out people! > The only time I remember people actually getting really snippy was during the Tori virginity discussion. Please, realize that people can disagree with each other and it doesn't mean you are getting attacked. The only honest rudeness I have come across is that recent reply to me being a jerk,which I still don't understand. Please, if you think there is a problem bring it up at the time- if you feel attacked, say something, and maybe people can explain things better and you can see that you probably not being attacked. What I never agree with is someone deciding a thread on here is just "stupid". If someone is offended I think that is important to voice, but the subjectiveness inherent if deciding something is worth talking about, when it is tori-related, isn't cool, imho. it is a free list. I find most of the discussions on here quite interesteing, even if the discussions do get heated sometimes. Of course they do- we're Tori ears with feets! If we didn't have emotions we wouldn't like her. :) -j > Raven > > > > > > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! > http://www.mailexcite.com > ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *Office Phone: 217-244-0332 * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:50:33 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Trent I'm not sure exactly of the nature of the Tori / Trent relationship. I think there good friends, in a very arty fashion. Um no hang on that's not what I wanted to say. Actually, no that sentence has just flown out of my head. Trent obviously did backing vocals on Past the Mission. There are NIN references scattered throughout Tori's songs, but you all new that. Then of course there is the infamous chicken story, relating to the the time Tori tried to cook Trent dinner when he was staying at 10050 Cielo Drive. This for the uniformed is the infamous "Manson house" were TDS was recorded. There was also a rumour floating around on the NIN news services about a year ago, that TRent would be doing backing vocals at Tori's MTV unplugged, but obviously this didn't eventuate. There must be more to it than that though. Help me out folks. TTFN Michael Francis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 21:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Getting to know Tori On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > The UK singles from BfP should also be relatively easy to come by, and > pretty good to pick up. I wouldn't say "easy" exactly. i have only seen the UK Talula in my neck of the woods. :( > Also, if you ever see "More Pink", a special > Australian 2-disc reissue of UtP that includes a second disc of b-sides, > -get it-. It's wonderful, and had the only easy-to-find legit version of > "A Case of You", plus an absolutely wonderful "Here. In My Head". EASY TO FIND?? Oh, please, help me then, /nad. I want More Pink more badly than, well, almost anything in the world, but I have had absolutely no luck finding it. Please please please tell me where i can find this? Is it just because I am unlucky, or is it getting rarer by the second? Now almost totally desperate to find myself a copy of More Pink, Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: FacethFire@aol.com Subject: Re: Mother In a message dated 97-09-08 18:00:59 EDT, you write: << precious-things@smoe.org >> i adore it. it reminds me of sitting in a lighthouse alone. go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Getting to know Tori On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Lady Eorann wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > The UK singles from BfP should also be relatively easy to come by, and > > pretty good to pick up. > I wouldn't say "easy" exactly. i have only seen the UK Talula in my neck > of the woods. :( I said "relatively"! They're much easier to come by than, say, the UK SATY single, and shouldn't go for more than $12 or so. > > Also, if you ever see "More Pink", a special > > Australian 2-disc reissue of UtP that includes a second disc of b-sides, > > -get it-. It's wonderful, and had the only easy-to-find legit version of > > "A Case of You", plus an absolutely wonderful "Here. In My Head". > EASY TO FIND?? Oh, please, help me then, /nad. I want More Pink more > badly than, well, almost anything in the world, but I have had absolutely > no luck finding it. Please please please tell me where i can find this? > Is it just because I am unlucky, or is it getting rarer by the second? "Easy to find" as compared to the UK CfG single, that is. :) These places have stocked More Pink in the past. I can't speak for their current selection, nor can I speak for their service, as I've never done business with any of 'em. But check 'em out and see if you can find one: http://www.abcds.com http://www.cdnow.com http://www.cdconnection.com I happened to stumble across my copy of More Pink purely by accident a little bit after it came out at a small music store in Flint, MI. {If any of y'all are in that area, I got it at the Wherehouse Records on Miller Road -- although I'm not sure if it's a Wherehouse Records now, my memory is slipping in my old age. ;) } /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:53:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Jennifer Gerbi wrote: > > out" the curls. Then everyone attacked me for saying it was permed. Then > > they attacked everyone for even talking about it. I haven't heard from > > the guy with the original question once since then. > > What on earth??... > > Can't someone have a differing opinion than someone without attacking > them? I do *NOT* recall any "attacks" over this hair thing, within the > discussion. It is just a fun silly topic and noone was "attacked", except > for the one post telling people to shut up, which I disagreed with. Ummm..... aaargh! Since this was the last post in this particular thread I'll say this here. END IT! I don't care if who started it, who contributed to it, who was right or who was wrong. It's over now. Stop acting like a bunch of pre-schoolers dammit. Mike, the "bad cop" list co-owner | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 23:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: FacethFire@aol.com Subject: Re: The best Toris...and why. mmkay. before i never got to state why i love boys for pele all that much. well, here i go. personally, i think that through her albums, we saw her mature and blossom. we saw her go through everything and anything. little earthquakes told the truth, under the pink was like a painting as she states, and boys for pele deals with loss. hurt. desire. need. love. probably the reason that i enjoy this album the best is because of what happened to me during the course of my obsession with it. Honestly, the first time i heard it, i liked it and all, but i wasn't like, addicted. the same thing happened the first time i listened to Little Earthquakes. and then, in the summer of 1996, the love of my life left me. i was completely and utterly devastated. and one way that i coped with this pain was by listening to this album. "Blood Roses" seemed to understand how i felt like nothing but meat, "Caught a Lite Sneeze"showed me perhaps this man was not the flu but simply an achoo. Hey Jupiter showed me how much i was bleeding from crawling on my knees. Talula showed me how to deal with the loss. Twinkle showed me that in the end there was a bit of hope shining. Just a Twinkle. *** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 97 22:10:24 -0000 From: Casey Subject: Re: Tori's Best Album? > I'm curious to know what others on the list think is the best album. I don't know what her *best* album is ... but my favorite, both musically and lyrically, is 'Under the Pink'. As far as I'm concerned, it's one of the best albums ever recorded. But, obviously, everyone's choise for best album will be different, because that's all opinion based. As far as the discussion of radio friendly albums, I *do* think LE is in the lead I mean, when you consider the 4 singles she released from UtP the only two you ever hear or see with any regularity or "CG" and "God". However, from LE, both "SATY" and "Crucify" were buzz clips and were in heavy rotation. They also played "China" and "Winter", but certainly much less. Plus, you could even catch "SATY" on VH-1 occaisionally. Plus, when you hear Tori on the radio it's almost always 1 of 3 songs: "CG", "Crucify", or "SATY". So, on the whole, I think LE is the most air-wave and listner friendly. Just my $.02 - -Casey ___________________________________________________________ | Casey | Casey's Giant Waste of Internet Space | | casey@tisd.net | http://www.tisd.net/~casey/index.html | |---------------------------------------------------------- | "If I shed a tear, I won't cage it ... if I feel a rage | | I won't deny it ... I won't fear love" -Sarah McLachlan| | "I have my own parties. They involve being barefoot with| | a piece of fried chicken and a margarita in each hand." | | -Tori Amos | ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 23:15:32 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: Just Bite My Head Off.. since a few of us seem to have forgotten why precious-things was created, here's a little refresher. this is the info that you received when you subscribed to the list. i know all of you read it then, but it never hurts to be reminded. as it says below, the guidelines we've put forth are not strictly enforced...but mike and i will extremely tempted to do so if this little flamewar keeps up. >Precious-things was created to provide a high signal-to-noise mailing list >for fans of Tori Amos. The other fora for Tori Amos discussion on the >Internet -- the really-deep-thoughts mailing list and the Usenet newsgroup >rec.music.tori-amos -- are plagued by flamewars, excessive topic-drift and >voluminous traffic. Thus, precious-things@smoe.org was created to be a low- >traffic, high-signal mailing list for discussion of Tori Amos and her work. > >Although news and informational posts are within the scope of precious-things, >it was not created to compete with the torinews list. Precious-things is >primarily intended to provide a haven for Tori Amos afficianados who want to >participate in discussion but lack either the time, energy or inclination to >cope with the high traffic of really-deep-thoughts or rec.music.tori-amos. > >Precious-things is not moderated. However, we hope that the mailing list >subscribers will self-moderate their contributions to the list so as to >create and maintain a high-quality mailing list. Below is listed some >guidelines for posting to precious-things. Adherence to these guidelines is >not strictly enforced, but will be should the need arise. > >* No ad hominen attacks or flamewars. > >* No posts that do not directly pertain to either Tori or her work, i.e., no > debates about feminism, religion, rape, etc. (Note, this does not mean that > these topics should never be discussed, since they obviously do Tori and > her music. However, such discussion should be limited to how these topics > relate to Tori rather than general discussions of the issues.) > >* No offers or requests for trades, concert recordings, or bootlegs (please > use rdt, r.m.t-a or the tori-boot mailing list for this). > >* Transcriptions of interviews and articles from currently-available > newspapers and magazines. > >To avoid accidential personal replies to the precious-things, the list is >configured to so that replies will not be automatically addressed to the >list. This may be an inconvience to some subscribers, but it will cut down >on unnecessary traffic. > >To prevent spam, the list is configured so only subscribers may post to it. >If you are one of the unfortunate who use multiple addresses or have random >addresses due to a mis-configured system, contact the listowners who will >address that problem for you. > >Please note, we are not trying to create an cabal of expert Tori fandom. >Precious-things is open to all and no one will be denied subscription, >unless their actions on the list warrant it. We are trying to encourage a >worthwhile forum for discussion, not a hangout for Tori elitists. > >Your listowners are woj and Mike Curry >. If you have any questions, they can be contacted at >owner-precious-things@smoe.org. > >Thanks to Jeff Wasilko for the server space. +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:55:46 -0400 (EDT) From: RAINN18@aol.com Subject: Re: How did everybody discover Tori? Hey everyone, I discovered tori about five years ago when I started hearing crucify on the radio. I completely fell in love with it and wanted to hear more songs by her so I went to buy crucify the single just to see if I liked the other songs, but something told me to just by LE instead. Well, I am glad I did cause I was just so amazed and loved every single song, and I cant say that about alot of other cds!! So, LE is my favorite then UTP though it took a little getting use to, songs like Spacedog was so different from LE, but needless to say I fell in love with that album. BFP was really different and I"d have to say it is the first one from tori where I didnt like every single song. I have warmed up to most of the songs I didnt like though. Putting the Damage On has to be one of the best songs on that cd and in general. My favorite beesides are honey, take to the sky, professional widow(merry widow version). And it really sucks, cause I dont think I have known one tori fan personally all this time I liked her. Everyone would be like who is that? or she's a freak, why do you like her? I starting to get my boyfriend to like her, he is a fanatic tool fan so it was cool to find out maynard and tori are friends.Well, I am done blabbing, sorry it got kinda long! Angie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:54:24 -0400 From: "Michael L. Whitehead" Subject: Favorite Tori Album My favorite Tori album is *easily* Boys For Pele. While I adore LE and strongly relate to UTP, I feel the complexity and layers of BFP are outstanding. I also strongly relate to the concept of looking for your true personhood. (Tori talks about finding her womanhood, but some of the same ideas can apply to men as well.) Like Tori I am searching for my own fire. I discover new gems everytime I listen to this work. The fact that it is difficult to get into at first is a real plus for me. This album makes Tori really stand out as an artist, and shows she is doing her own thing and following her own creative urges, with no censorship or interference from the goofy record companies. It made my already high admiration for her soar higher. Tori is determined not to stagnate as an artist, and BFP is proof that she is being successful! Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #248 *************************************