From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #102 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, April 12 1997 Volume 02 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- comment on remixes/selling out ["Michael L. Whitehead" ] Re: comment on remixes/selling out [Charlie Poole ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:41:16 -0400 From: "Michael L. Whitehead" Subject: comment on remixes/selling out Hi all, I have read a few comments stating that the dance remixes are a sign of Tori aiming for a more mainstream crowd. Most of these remixes are actually aimed at the dance music community, and not normal top 40 radio (In the US...the UK is another matter!) None of these remixes were top 40 hits, and except for dance stations and dance mix shows on the weekends, many of these remixes don't fit into a "normal" top 40 format. These remixes are for DJs to use in clubs and for people to dance to. They are not signs that Tori wants to be Whitney Houston! (Goddess forbid) Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:32:07 EST From: i think i thought i saw you try Subject: boys for pele right right.... okay, i'm an Under the Pink fan...always have been, kind of like i'm a Daydream Nation fan, and a Bleach fan, and a Broken fan, and a Portrait of an American Family fan, and a Pornography fan [the cure album]... it's my style...now as a musician (and yes, i consider anyone that's been studying music for eighteen years a musician) i can see where tori has improved on Boys for Pele (i hate abbreviations, please deal)....she's diversified on her instrumentation, and not only that - but she's diversified her vocal style - - Horses is a wonderful song, Caught a Lite Sneeze (with those vocals in the back) is a GREAT song, so is Twinkle and Putting the Damage on...In the Springtime of his Voodoo was inCREDible live...i dunno, it's just not what i'm looking for now...has she sold out? no...i don't think so, i just think that the music industry has diversified itself enough to accEPT her kind of music into it's radio genre - did Nine Inch Nails sell out, no...they got lucky, the Cure has been around for ages with a strong fan base...it wasn't until after the RAINN concert that i started hearing tori on the radio in New York, a little belated, but an improvement i was talking to my friends about how a lot of the music that we've been listening to for a while has just now been recognised as being "mainstream" - i don't think it's that these artists are selling out, i think it's just that the music people have gone "Whoa, hey - this Tori chick knows what she's doing" no...i mean, look at her fan base - there're the Little Earthquakes purists, the Under the Pink fans and the Boys for Pele fans...all of her albums are different enough for them not to be compared amongst each other - the first tori album i got was Silent All these Years while i was in england, and i've been losing my money ever since yes....there are Boys for Pele days, when it's snowing outside and grey and pretty, and Under the Pink days - when it's raining, and Little Earthwuakes days (when i just want to forget the whole day) no i don't think she's sold out - artists who'e sold out are ones who copy a style BLATANTLY because that's the style that sells (ie: Bush) as Trent Reznor said in a SPIN interview - "record companies are always looking for what sells, so they say 'hey Nirvana is big now, so lets sign everyone who sounds like them'" - which explains the widespread Fiona Apple fanbase among tori fans (i don't like her, but that's another story) i'm an artist and a musician, i'm VERY picky....but everyone is entitled to their own opinions -- which brings me to something else: the Anti-Tori page: NOW...i wrote to this girl (it IS a girl if you searched the rest of her page) and talked to her about a couple of things...it is OKAY for her not to like Tori and if she wants to waste her precious time on making a page devoted to the whole thing - fine, waster her time, good riddance HOWEVER...the one thing that did make me mad (well two) was the statement that Tori songs carried no melody now...she listens to NIrvana - i own bleach, i love in utero - but if she is going to make the claim that tori's songs carry no melody - she can't say that nirvana does.... ANOTHER thing...i don't have much respect for Nirvana fans who don't like Sonic Youth - and she made a lot of claims about tori that would apply to SY, such as the melody thing and the lyrical thing as i've stated before, i;m a musician, and i want her to justify to me what a MELODY is...and then i'll be happy - ------------- one more thing...does anyone have a copy of tori doing Hurt? does anyone have the china ep or know where i can get it? what is mr Zebra about? i've ONLY asked this a million times jordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:34:33 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Re: comment on remixes/selling out On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Michael L. Whitehead wrote: > They are > not signs that Tori wants to be Whitney Houston! (Goddess forbid) Mike, just what do you find so horrible about Whitney? :-) Love, hugs and faerie dust dreams to all. In Tori, Charlie - -- +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #102 *************************************