From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #61 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, 19 April 1996 Volume 01 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A Campaign to Support Tori Re: Reply to Jen Hustadt: Part II Reply to Jen Hustadt: Part III Tori is Beautiful ;) Re: precious-things-digest V1 #59 psychic hippies and faeries Re: Cessation of Sass Re: Ames Tix Re: precious-things-digest V1 #59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Hustadt" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A Campaign to Support Tori YAY CORY!!!! THAT IS RIGHT!!!! JEn. On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Cory Qualey wrote: > > Oh great, encourage people to be yelling at Tori concerts. That's exactly > what we need. Do you realize that by suggesting such things you are > creating a guarantee that at many concerts there will be some idiot who > will take this too far and shout things at her between every song? > > Look people, if Tori needs encouragement give it to her through respect. > Give her her space, don't pretend as if you know her, because we don't, > and if you are close enough to the stage for her to see you, just smile > at her. She will know... And if you are lucky enough to meet her, let her > know that she has changed your life. I think that is more than enough for > any artist to find the strength they need to continue in this insane > business day after day... > > CoryQ > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Mike Harris wrote: > > > I'd like to suggest something. While it is true that Tori > > has not had a breakdown, per se, it sure sounds like she could > > use our encouragement. I'd like to ask that anybody planning > > to go to a concert either concentrate on sending her positive > > energy, or, if you are daring, sometime during the concert shout > > words of encouragement to her. I think she needs to know her > > fans support her and are there for her, as she has been for us. > > > > I'd like to see this word spread throughout the on-line community > > of Tori Amos fans, and I'd appreciate any help members of the > > list could provide to spread the word. > > > > Comments or (really deep) thoughts? > > > > Mike > > > ------------------------------ From: "J. Hustadt" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Reply to Jen Hustadt: Part II That's self-indulgence and safety. On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Mike Harris wrote: > ME> In addition, she's spoken of her belief in the spiritual mood > ME> of the audience in many of her interviews. > > Ah-ha. Knew I had a relevant quote tucked somewhere away in this > dusty old e-mail drawer o' mine. From her interview with CFNY radio: > > " ... I usually prepare an hour before I walk on the stage, and I > call forth different energies that I'm gonna work on that > night. And I, I tune into the audience and see what's there." > > Mike > ------------------------------ From: "Mike Harris" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:22:53 GMT-5 Subject: Reply to Jen Hustadt: Part III ME> " ... I usually prepare an hour before I walk on the stage, and ME> I call forth different energies that I'm gonna work on that ME> night. And I, I tune into the audience and see what's ME> there." JH> That's self-indulgence and safety. Jen, Gee, why the heck are you a fan of Tori to begin with? I'd love to know, since you seem to have just the most wonderful and accurate opinion of her, calling her self-indulgent, safe ... I'd apply those words to James Taylor, not Tori Amos. And you still haven't answered my other questions: what really gives you the right to force your interpretation, how *you* enjoy Tori (if you can really call that enjoyment) onto other people? Are you not answering because you *have* no answer? Mike ------------------------------ From: deziner@cris.com (J.W.) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:19:32 -0500 Subject: Tori is Beautiful ;) Seems Tori is listed as #3 in People Magazine OnLine's poll for "Most Beautiful People." I don't know about you, but while I do like David Duchovny, I'm afraid Tori's got him beat, but he's #2. Go ahead and vote, and put her at the top ;) http://pathfinder.com/people/beauties/beautiespoll.html But hurry! You have until the 19th to vote!!! (sorry about the exclamation points ;>) Josh __The Man With The Golden Gun__ ------------------------------ From: deziner@cris.com (J.W.) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:18:07 -0500 Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #59 Seems Tori is listed as #3 in People Magazine OnLine's poll for "Most Beautiful People." I don't know about you, but while I do like David Duchovny, I'm afraid Tori's got him beat, but he's #2. Go ahead and vote, and put her at the top ;) http://pathfinder.com/people/beauties/beautiespoll.html Josh __The Man With The Golden Gun__ ------------------------------ From: abbe@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 13:03:54 -0400 Subject: psychic hippies and faeries So, this little discusssion set off by Mike Harris's post about Tori being very drained, and about us supporting Tori during her concerts has been going on for a while on both precious-things and torinews. (I'm not sure which is which and which parts of the thread have actually made it to precious-things, but anyway..) No, I don't want to keep going on about whether we should yell things out during concerts or about whether Tori is going to hear the psychic messages we send her during the concert. But I thought maybe we could try turning this into an actual relevant interesting discussion. I've gone through different phases of looking at the world in terms of magic, psychic energy, fantasy creatures, and other such perspectives, and when I was first introduced to Tori's music one of the first things I noticed was that it just *felt* magical. You could actually soak up Tori's emotions just hearing it in her voice, in the piano, etc. Whether or not you want to call this "psychic energy" in the music or just say it's very intensely emotional music or what, it's there. On top of that there was of course the layer of the music being beautiful on its own, and the lyrics, and all the rest of the things that just about "anyone" could interpret. But listening to a bunch of tidbits of things in Tori's interviews, I've started to notice just how much Tori seems to view the world in terms of this stuff too -- the quote about how she shares energy with her audience, the way she talks about her songs as coming through and having in a sense a mind of her own, the whole story behind Anastasia (who came and "asked" tori to write a song about her), the whole "stealing other people's fire" bit she's talked about with BfP, the faeries and all the rest. Personally, I find it really amazing how much of the energy and the emotion you can feel just listening to Tori in recording. It's more intense in concert, sure, but even listening to a CD I feel it. I haven't yet heard any of the BfP songs live (can't wait till May 21 =) but just in the album I feel all this anger that works amazingly well when you're angry at something and you just want to let it slip away... you let Tori be angry instead of yourself and vent through the album somehow.. Do other people notice all of this as well? How about in her lyrics themselves? I've begun noticing a trend of various B-sides being interpretable as being about this sort of thing---it's only one interpretation, but it's definitely there. Flying Dutchman says a lot of it to me, so does Sister Janet, and of course Take to the Sky. Opinions? - -abbe ------------------------------ From: "Mike Harris" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:25:18 GMT-5 Subject: Re: Cessation of Sass JU> ... you'd have to like, be sarcastic and belittle to be JU> considered *forcing* your opinions on someone ... My original reply was to Jen's post, saying, "What are you smoking? We are not psychic hippies." It continued with more sarcastic and belittling thoughts -- if you would like the original text, I'd be happy to post. I am very much an advocate of free speech. However, it is when someone begins trampling on others' rights to speak their mind that I am rubbed the wrong way. By the way, John Stewart told me that Jen has finished school today and has unsubscribed from the list, so any further discussion of this matter would probably be moot, you know? Mike ------------------------------ From: Adam Thomas Heath Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:17:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Ames Tix On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, J.W. wrote: I called about the tickets a couple times as well and they weren't able to give me any information on this. I don't know exactly where you are from, but I am from the Quad Cities and I heard that she is definately playing at the Paramont Theatre in Cedar Rapids. That is a lot closer for me. She was at Paramont once before and it was a great concert (the theatre was built for her)! Adam Heath > Just a note to any of you out there that may exist in the MIDDLE of the > Midwest (Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri) who are thinking about seeing > Tori in Ames in June. I've called 2 times in the course of 2 weeks, and > both times I was told that she is on their "big wish list" and that they > are trying everything they can to get her there, but there hasn't been an > official announcement, and to "stay tuned." > > Anyway, if you DO live around here (NO! CAN IT BE?!) Drop me private email > and we'll see about meeting up or what ever else we can come up with... > > JOSH > > > ------------------------------ From: Adam Thomas Heath Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:21:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #59 Out of couriosity, Who is number one? Adam On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, J.W. wrote: > Seems Tori is listed as #3 in People Magazine OnLine's poll for "Most > Beautiful People." I don't know about you, but while I do like David > Duchovny, I'm afraid Tori's got him beat, but he's #2. Go ahead and vote, > and put her at the top ;) > > http://pathfinder.com/people/beauties/beautiespoll.html > > Josh > > __The Man With The Golden Gun__ > > > ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #61 ************************************